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Sccit:
--- Quote from: M Dogg on April 29, 2013, 05:44:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on April 29, 2013, 05:21:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on April 29, 2013, 05:07:42 PM ---Dwight does nothing better other than get the ball in the basket, grab rebounds, block shots and get results. Dude, Dwight has done more, let a team to the NBA Finals and also been defensive player of the year 3 years in a row. Get that, 3 years in a row. He didn't win last year because he was injured, and this year because he is breaking down mentally. Dwight has a very low EQ and basketball IQ. So who would I rather have, M. Gasol. But that doesn't take away from the fact Howard is a better player who is a year younger and done more, including leading his team to the Finals.
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ill take shaqs word over yours...marc doesnt score or grab as many rebounds because he has to operate with randolph in the post, who takes up a lot of the touches and gobbles up rebounds offa marc gasol box-outs. dwight is like a glorified tyson chandler who demands more touches....not a superstar caliber player. this year, marc got better, dwight got worse. dwight didnt lead any team to the finals...that was the work of stan van gundy, surrounding dwight with 4 knock-down shooters to open the paint for him to get spoon-fed dunks, makin him look a whole lot better than he actually is. shaq=top 5 center ever...i'll take his word.
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WOW!!! The world has ended, NIK agrees with SHAQ!! Although Shaq is biased against Howard.
Straight up, one on one game, who wins, Howard or Gasol?
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Gasol has better post moves and back to the basket game, as well as a dependable jumpshot, so I'd put my money on him
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: NIKCC on April 29, 2013, 06:52:05 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on April 29, 2013, 05:44:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on April 29, 2013, 05:21:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on April 29, 2013, 05:07:42 PM ---Dwight does nothing better other than get the ball in the basket, grab rebounds, block shots and get results. Dude, Dwight has done more, let a team to the NBA Finals and also been defensive player of the year 3 years in a row. Get that, 3 years in a row. He didn't win last year because he was injured, and this year because he is breaking down mentally. Dwight has a very low EQ and basketball IQ. So who would I rather have, M. Gasol. But that doesn't take away from the fact Howard is a better player who is a year younger and done more, including leading his team to the Finals.
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ill take shaqs word over yours...marc doesnt score or grab as many rebounds because he has to operate with randolph in the post, who takes up a lot of the touches and gobbles up rebounds offa marc gasol box-outs. dwight is like a glorified tyson chandler who demands more touches....not a superstar caliber player. this year, marc got better, dwight got worse. dwight didnt lead any team to the finals...that was the work of stan van gundy, surrounding dwight with 4 knock-down shooters to open the paint for him to get spoon-fed dunks, makin him look a whole lot better than he actually is. shaq=top 5 center ever...i'll take his word.
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WOW!!! The world has ended, NIK agrees with SHAQ!! Although Shaq is biased against Howard.
Straight up, one on one game, who wins, Howard or Gasol?
--- End quote ---
Gasol has better post moves and back to the basket game, as well as a dependable jumpshot, so I'd put my money on him
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Now you are just trolling.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: M Dogg on April 29, 2013, 07:47:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on April 29, 2013, 06:52:05 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on April 29, 2013, 05:44:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on April 29, 2013, 05:21:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg on April 29, 2013, 05:07:42 PM ---Dwight does nothing better other than get the ball in the basket, grab rebounds, block shots and get results. Dude, Dwight has done more, let a team to the NBA Finals and also been defensive player of the year 3 years in a row. Get that, 3 years in a row. He didn't win last year because he was injured, and this year because he is breaking down mentally. Dwight has a very low EQ and basketball IQ. So who would I rather have, M. Gasol. But that doesn't take away from the fact Howard is a better player who is a year younger and done more, including leading his team to the Finals.
--- End quote ---
ill take shaqs word over yours...marc doesnt score or grab as many rebounds because he has to operate with randolph in the post, who takes up a lot of the touches and gobbles up rebounds offa marc gasol box-outs. dwight is like a glorified tyson chandler who demands more touches....not a superstar caliber player. this year, marc got better, dwight got worse. dwight didnt lead any team to the finals...that was the work of stan van gundy, surrounding dwight with 4 knock-down shooters to open the paint for him to get spoon-fed dunks, makin him look a whole lot better than he actually is. shaq=top 5 center ever...i'll take his word.
--- End quote ---
WOW!!! The world has ended, NIK agrees with SHAQ!! Although Shaq is biased against Howard.
Straight up, one on one game, who wins, Howard or Gasol?
--- End quote ---
Gasol has better post moves and back to the basket game, as well as a dependable jumpshot, so I'd put my money on him
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Now you are just trolling.
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lmao..u bein serious? gasol doesnt have better back to the basket game than dwight? most of dwights points come assisted, off of spoon-fed dunks and lobs...gasol can work for his, u can throw it to him and he operates in the post. mdoggydogg, u comin off as unknowledgeable on this 1.
The Watcher:
i would agree with NIK on this one, marc gasol >>>> dwight howard
lakers have a bit of rebuilding to do and with their salary situation it's not gonna be easy. dwight isn't gonna agree to a sign and trade unless it's to a contender or a team he wanted to goto previously (read: brooklyn or dallas). worst case scenario, dwight doesn't resign and the lakers are still fucked cause they will likely be over the salary cap. they will be amnestying someone, my bet would be gasol since he takes up almost $20m of the cap
lakers are sitting at $78m and thats without re-signing dwight, amnestying gasol would save them $19m, and the lakers are probably hoping MWP doesnt pickup his $8m player option
M Dogg™:
If Howard doesn't resign, then I'd keep Gasol and ask Artest to opt out and restructure his contract, then amnesty Steve Blake. (god damn that's a bad run on sentence.)
I still think Howard in 2009-2010 is a perfect example of how good he can be when healthy and drama free. It was he last season of just being Dwight, and he shined. He was the leader of that Magic team, though Rashard Lewis did make a great second option that year, but Howard was the man. 20ppg, 15rpg and 2.6bpg. He was a fucking beast. Marc Gasol can never touch that season that Howard had.
With that said, Howard's worst enemy is himself. This season was very telling that he doesn't want to get better. You can't play next to the best player of your generation and then act like you should be treated as a superstar. Kobe is a superstar, Howard has been exposed as someone with the ability to tear the league apart but never will because he can't hack being the man. He wants to make superstar money without being a superstar. This is were Howard fails.
Still, he is a better player than Marc Gasol, he has proved at his best he is better than Marc Gasol at his best. With that said, on my team, I want Marc Gasol, because Marc Gasol is smarter.
Also, one on one game, Gasol doesn't score on Howard, ever. Howard's D is too good to lose a one on one game. On a team, Gasol knows when to pass out and when to fake a move. But one on one, Howard is a fucking beast and Gasol doesn't score.
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