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M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: NIKCC on February 11, 2014, 10:30:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on February 11, 2014, 10:17:28 PM ---http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2013-05-23/dwight-howard-free-agent-sign-and-trade-lakers-rockets-mavericks
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/7/5/4495454/dwight-howard-rumors-trade-rockets-warriors-lake
http://www.ibtimes.com/lakers-trade-rumors-jeremy-lin-la-sign-trade-package-deal-houston-rockets-free-agent-dwight-howard
http://www.insidesocal.com/lakers/2013/06/17/lakers-wont-deal-dwight-howard-in-a-sign-and-trade/
http://www.lakersnation.com/sources-lakers-wont-agree-to-dwight-howard-sign-and-trade/2013/06/14/
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all them links say nothing of dwight wanting or agreeing to a sign and trade...he has no incentive.
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Nor did anything say he DIDN'T want a sign and trade, but those links point to the Lakers NOT wanting to do a sign and trade. And they did mention the incentive, one extra year and $30 million extra in the overall deal. But even if he wanted a sign and trade to get the extra money, the Lakers were saying no. Now in one of the deepest drafts, it looks like that was a mistake as the Lakers could use a few picks.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on February 11, 2014, 10:55:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: NIKCC on February 11, 2014, 10:30:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on February 11, 2014, 10:17:28 PM ---http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2013-05-23/dwight-howard-free-agent-sign-and-trade-lakers-rockets-mavericks
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/7/5/4495454/dwight-howard-rumors-trade-rockets-warriors-lake
http://www.ibtimes.com/lakers-trade-rumors-jeremy-lin-la-sign-trade-package-deal-houston-rockets-free-agent-dwight-howard
http://www.insidesocal.com/lakers/2013/06/17/lakers-wont-deal-dwight-howard-in-a-sign-and-trade/
http://www.lakersnation.com/sources-lakers-wont-agree-to-dwight-howard-sign-and-trade/2013/06/14/
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all them links say nothing of dwight wanting or agreeing to a sign and trade...he has no incentive.
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Nor did anything say he DIDN'T want a sign and trade, but those links point to the Lakers NOT wanting to do a sign and trade. And they did mention the incentive, one extra year and $30 million extra in the overall deal. But even if he wanted a sign and trade to get the extra money, the Lakers were saying no. Now in one of the deepest drafts, it looks like that was a mistake as the Lakers could use a few picks.
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the priority was to sign him, we knew there wasn't gunna be a sign and trade.
Better for the Lakers to get something for Howard instead of letting him leave for nothing, right? Not really.
Let’s be real. If Howard leaves while Kobe Bryant is in the early stages of his comeback from a torn Achilles tendon, the Lakers have no chance to win a championship next season.
That wouldn’t change if they accepted a sign-and-trade deal that sent every player on the Mavs’ roster not named Nowitzki to Los Angeles. All that would do is prevent the Lakers from avoiding a massive luxury tax bill.
If the Lakers added Shawn Marion, Vince Carter and Mavs filler to a roster that features rehabbing Kobe, ancient Steve Nash and Pau Gasol, they’d be fighting just for a shot to sneak into the playoffs again while paying a luxury-tax bill in the neighborhood of $28 million, assuming they’d use the amnesty clause on Metta World Peace.
What about that would possibly appeal to L.A.?
If Howard leaves, the Lakers might as well unofficially tank the season. They could avoid the luxury tax altogether by using the amnesty clause on Gasol. Kobe could take his sweet time with his comeback.
In this scenario, the Lakers could be looking at a high lottery pick in a loaded 2014 draft, when they’ll also have a ton of cap space. Why would they want to end up with a middle-of-the-road pick after putting together a mediocre team with a nine-figure price tag?
and lets be real, no one was trading away lottery picks in this years draft...we're gunna get a high pick now because we DIDNT sign-and-trade. but it wasnt happenin on either side.
M Dogg™:
But what was shown is that whoevernhas Howard isn't making the lotto. You get a couple of washed up players, J. Lin and first round draft picks from now until 3 years down then road and you can rebuild. Or have other teams draft picks in there. Fact is, every high superstar pick the Lakers have made have been other people's draft pick. Mitch botched this situation.
Sccit:
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on February 12, 2014, 06:04:18 AM ---But what was shown is that whoevernhas Howard isn't making the lotto. You get a couple of washed up players, J. Lin and first round draft picks from now until 3 years down then road and you can rebuild. Or have other teams draft picks in there. Fact is, every high superstar pick the Lakers have made have been other people's draft pick. Mitch botched this situation.
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did u not read what i said? a.dwight wasn't going to do a sign-and-trade b.nobody was trading draft picks c.acquiring talent for howard would only lessen our chances at a good pick this year
M Dogg™:
--- Quote from: NIKCC on February 12, 2014, 10:39:27 AM ---
--- Quote from: M Dogg™ on February 12, 2014, 06:04:18 AM ---But what was shown is that whoevernhas Howard isn't making the lotto. You get a couple of washed up players, J. Lin and first round draft picks from now until 3 years down then road and you can rebuild. Or have other teams draft picks in there. Fact is, every high superstar pick the Lakers have made have been other people's draft pick. Mitch botched this situation.
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did u not read what i said? a.dwight wasn't going to do a sign-and-trade b.nobody was trading draft picks c.acquiring talent for howard would only lessen our chances at a good pick this year
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Hum... in June he asked for a sign and trade so he could get more money.
Dude, your talking out both sides of your mouth. You're like, Lakers should sign and trade Howard, well Howard didn't want a sign and trade. Fact is Howard wanted a sign and trade at first, then Lakers refused, then when they realized Howard was leaving Howard refused because he just wanted to be done with LA. It was dumb on the Lakers part and the biggest mistake in the Mitch era. Though I mainly blame Jimmy Buss because I am sure Mitch knew the right move to make, he was just taking orders. The Lakers have NEVER missed the playoffs 2 years in a row in franchise history. With Jimmy still running the team, I am very worried about that.
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