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Is gangsta rap to blame for the riots in France?

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Trauma-san:

--- Quote from: ForKnoX on November 11, 2005, 06:19:03 AM ---
--- Quote from: I Want My Donation Back on November 10, 2005, 11:01:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: ForKnoX on November 10, 2005, 06:29:51 PM ---ill say it loud and clear man : when u have no money to pay ur studies,no parents at home when ure a child bcuz they strugglin to get that small amout of do' to feed u,when u are diplomated with a master degree at that u find no job(even jobs that dont fit with ur qualifications!) or more precisely that nobody wants u, when u see by urself that the doors are closin one by one day by day ,u dont have too many choices: u deal drugs or u a rapper & eventually if ure talented ...u do sport(bball,football...)

thats whats up here since almost 20 years  same for usa & this is not near to end bcuz it is well known we're living in a white/christian/jewish world thats that kind of people who runs every occidental state & they have no intentions to let u take their job..they not fools u know.
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Maybe if you started talking or typing in complete sentences, you'd be a little more marketable to a potential employer.  Just trying to help.... but I'm one of the white guys you're talking about running shit, and just in the way you just presented yourself, you'd be the absolute last person I'd hire.  You also might want to think about why you view your three choices in life to be either a drug dealer, a rapper, or a sports star.  Talent doesn't necessarily mean you can play football.  Your parents should have educated you, but I guess they didn't.  Your teachers should have educated you, but I guess they didn't.  Now it's up to you to quit bitching about the white man, educate YOURSELF, and pull yourself out of whatever bullshit situation you imagine you're in. 

Or, you could just blame me. Whatever.

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im white man so im relating what im dealin with>> misery is expanding<<
& I do believe im well educated just like my oldest bro'& my lil bro'

the truth is what i said nothing less nothing mo' & if u wont face it in the right way ,well that concerns u...only

the richs gets richer & the poors gets poorer, i believe that at a certain point every class from the top to the bottom of this society will express itself sooner or later... not with words but with bad moves,like riots

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That's a great way to look at things "the rich gettts ricchhaa and theaaa ppoorrr gets poorrrer"

I take it you're one of the poor.  Like I was.  I grew up in houses with no heat, didn't have any money, lived on food stamps, had cheap ass clothes from family dollar and shit, rode the city bus, my mom was a waitress, etc.

So, I was poor, and now I guess I should be even more poor.  No, I got a good job, on my own merits, and saved my money.  Borrowed money to go to school, then paid it back.  Started investing in things I could sell on the side, made even more money... etc. to where now I'm sitting pretty and things are getting better every day. 

Fonky Fresh:

--- Quote from: I Want My Donation Back on November 11, 2005, 08:37:47 AM ---
--- Quote from: ForKnoX on November 11, 2005, 06:19:03 AM ---
--- Quote from: I Want My Donation Back on November 10, 2005, 11:01:46 PM ---
--- Quote from: ForKnoX on November 10, 2005, 06:29:51 PM ---ill say it loud and clear man : when u have no money to pay ur studies,no parents at home when ure a child bcuz they strugglin to get that small amout of do' to feed u,when u are diplomated with a master degree at that u find no job(even jobs that dont fit with ur qualifications!) or more precisely that nobody wants u, when u see by urself that the doors are closin one by one day by day ,u dont have too many choices: u deal drugs or u a rapper & eventually if ure talented ...u do sport(bball,football...)

thats whats up here since almost 20 years  same for usa & this is not near to end bcuz it is well known we're living in a white/christian/jewish world thats that kind of people who runs every occidental state & they have no intentions to let u take their job..they not fools u know.
--- End quote ---

Maybe if you started talking or typing in complete sentences, you'd be a little more marketable to a potential employer.  Just trying to help.... but I'm one of the white guys you're talking about running shit, and just in the way you just presented yourself, you'd be the absolute last person I'd hire.  You also might want to think about why you view your three choices in life to be either a drug dealer, a rapper, or a sports star.  Talent doesn't necessarily mean you can play football.  Your parents should have educated you, but I guess they didn't.  Your teachers should have educated you, but I guess they didn't.  Now it's up to you to quit bitching about the white man, educate YOURSELF, and pull yourself out of whatever bullshit situation you imagine you're in. 

Or, you could just blame me. Whatever.

--- End quote ---

im white man so im relating what im dealin with>> misery is expanding<<
& I do believe im well educated just like my oldest bro'& my lil bro'

the truth is what i said nothing less nothing mo' & if u wont face it in the right way ,well that concerns u...only

the richs gets richer & the poors gets poorer, i believe that at a certain point every class from the top to the bottom of this society will express itself sooner or later... not with words but with bad moves,like riots

--- End quote ---

That's a great way to look at things "the rich gettts ricchhaa and theaaa ppoorrr gets poorrrer"

I take it you're one of the poor. Like I was. I grew up in houses with no heat, didn't have any money, lived on food stamps, had cheap ass clothes from family dollar and shit, rode the city bus, my mom was a waitress, etc.

So, I was poor, and now I guess I should be even more poor. No, I got a good job, on my own merits, and saved my money. Borrowed money to go to school, then paid it back. Started investing in things I could sell on the side, made even more money... etc. to where now I'm sitting pretty and things are getting better every day.

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misunderstood man,i dont say u dont have to work & all this blabla

I say :don't blame this people coz they have good reasons>>their struggle is legit<<
if they were wrong i would adknowledge u man but its not the case.

& i still keep my view about rich&poor people this is undeniable facts u better read statistics reports from propers organisations who investigate about that.

thats wassup in france, at least

ps:im happy u got a good professional situation man,it's all good

King Tech Quadafi:
^ Listen Trauma you bring up solid points, and as for your struggle, I went through a similiar one and so i respect what u have done.
However, i think it is problematic to hold your self as a standard for any poor person.

There are alot of factors you ignore, or if u do acknowledge u dont recognize the depth.

I mean, Im not excusing ignorance, or this bullshit ghetto mentality that unfortunately has existed for years now. There IS a cycle of ignorance in the hood, but the creation, faciliation and maintenance of this ignorance is something that has been beyond the control of the poor people.

Basically yes, at the end of the day an individual should be able to account for his actions. You came up bad? Had it bad? well, that just means u have to work twice as hard to be successful. But that reasoning comes from some semblance of intelligence and education, which is not readily available among minority communities, and poor areas.

Fonky Fresh:
National Institute for Statistics and Economic Studies(france)

I TO DA GEEZY:

--- Quote from: Fallujah Tech on November 11, 2005, 09:06:47 AM ---the creation, faciliation and maintenance of this ignorance is something that has been beyond the control of the poor people.

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Word!....this is universally true, you couldn't be more right man! Often the weaker layers of society are deliberately kept in such ignorance to serve the needs of corrupt power structures and unjust leaderships in many places around the world.

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