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It is an embarassment that Britain didn't pass that terror bill
Don Rizzle:
--- Quote from: Overseer on November 15, 2005, 12:04:39 AM ---this 'article' is full of shit.. left wing media my arse.. you dont watch or read our media.. you only hear what you;'re spoon fed you retard.. the whole of europe is pushing to the right under the pressures of increased immigration/economic migration.
the main reason is the law would violate human rights stuff already agreed.. it would mean possible legal action against the country from those groups.
the other thing not mentioned that majorly fucked this situation up was that the police themselves lobbied MPs.. and that worked against them.. the police force is not a political organisation and their involvement has kicked off a debate in itself.
i dont believe the public were massively for it..
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the article was full of shit, but i don't believe it failed because of human right laws or police lobbying and i don't believe it was wrong for them to lobby, they need these powers so parliament shud try and support them. and public opinion was in favour of these laws that has been admitted on all sides. I don't believe the conservatives were rejected it for the reasons they stated, they rejected it to weaken the government, i had been in favour of david davis becoming the next tory leader, but now i don't know....he did raise some good points BUT i believe pros of the 90 day rule outweighed the cons and it would make us safer. its the current human rights laws which make a mockery of our country because we are not allowed to deport dangerous people because they almost always come from dodgy countries and we are not allowed to hold them indefinatly so we let them go free and they are a danger to the public, so we end up paying millions on survalience which isn't fool proof.
edit: i do agree with what the article was saying about the bbc this time they were not putting across a representitive view they just interview loads of people against the bill and hardly anyone in favour of it, they did the same with the comments on their website i'm not happy they have been trying to distort what the nations view is, they are usually very good at being unbiased but in this case i think the editors have done to much selective publishing.
No Compute:
It would be embarrassing if it was passed.
Real American:
--- Quote from: Don Rizzle on November 15, 2005, 02:11:09 AM ---
edit: i do agree with what the article was saying about the bbc this time they were not putting across a representitive view they just interview loads of people against the bill and hardly anyone in favour of it, they did the same with the comments on their website i'm not happy they have been trying to distort what the nations view is, they are usually very good at being unbiased but in this case i think the editors have done to much selective publishing.
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Overseer is definitely in denial if he thinks the BBC isn't left wing. It is not his fault though, he just hasn't been exposed to different media sources. I personally read the BBC's website everyday and I am usually disgusted by the blatant anti-American, anti-Israeli, anti-west coverage. Do we even need to mention the scandal from a few years back when the heads of BBC were forced to step down because of biased coverage?
As for the law itself, as an American I cannot possibly fathom the idea of working against their government to prevent them from fighting terror. Grow some fucking balls, Britain, and quit being so damn politically correct. What happened to the bad ass country led by the great Winston Churchill?
No Compute:
--- Quote from: Real American on November 15, 2005, 02:26:52 PM ---
--- Quote from: Don Rizzle on November 15, 2005, 02:11:09 AM ---
edit: i do agree with what the article was saying about the bbc this time they were not putting across a representitive view they just interview loads of people against the bill and hardly anyone in favour of it, they did the same with the comments on their website i'm not happy they have been trying to distort what the nations view is, they are usually very good at being unbiased but in this case i think the editors have done to much selective publishing.
--- End quote ---
Overseer is definitely in denial if he thinks the BBC isn't left wing. It is not his fault though, he just hasn't been exposed to different media sources. I personally read the BBC's website everyday and I am usually disgusted by the blatant anti-American, anti-Israeli, anti-west coverage. Do we even need to mention the scandal from a few years back when the heads of BBC were forced to step down because of biased coverage?
As for the law itself, as an American I cannot possibly fathom the idea of working against their government to prevent them from fighting terror. Grow some fucking balls, Britain, and quit being so damn politically correct. What happened to the bad ass country led by the great Winston Churchill?
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It's called democracy.
Real American:
--- Quote from: prominent on November 15, 2005, 02:33:10 PM ---
It's called democracy.
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If it was true democracy the people will would have been followed and the law would have passed.
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