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You agree or disagree with withdrawal from iraq?

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I TO DA GEEZY:

--- Quote from: Kassem on November 24, 2005, 01:51:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on November 24, 2005, 12:04:11 PM ---I have this utopian vision as for the U.S moving onto the next autocracy in the middle east untill its leadership is defused and so on and so on untill every middle eastern dictatorship can establish a democratic foundation so there will be no shift of resources by these oil drenched indefinite power possessing dictators to all kinds of terrorist groups who undermine world peace with their Jihad agendas.


p.s Well we all know it's quite unrealistic since there are factors(states to be exact) in the western world that are interested in instability due to financial considerations.

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Well easy for u to say,this would really be a big fuck up,know ,it's only desperate people would blow themselves up,if the whole middleast is invaded u will have 250 mill people who are ready to die for thier countries.


can establish a democratic foundation -----up ur ass,u isrealis only want ur promised land (from egypt to iraq) and u don't give a damn how many people die.

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This is what you don't get my friend there is no such thing as 250 mill people who are ready to die for their country there are many people who die within their country due to their inhumane autocratic corrupt power-driven leaderships and there is a small percentage of brainwashed people that comply to terrorist groups (sponsored by these same leaderships) whose main intension is to produce the fear you've got rooted in you,through these gigantic terrorist acts(in proportion, it takes very little to blow up even the biggest building), this delusion you have, about these millions of "blindly patriotic" people who are 100% fond of what their evil dictator is doing,it is ridiculous(but then again many people are suffering from the same delusion)- WAKE UP, far from every Muslim is a radical fundamentalist, I guess you should know this :).

J @ M @ L:

--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on November 25, 2005, 12:43:40 AM ---there are many people who die within their country due to their inhumane autocratic corrupt power-driven leaderships

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Yes that's true, but don't forget to mention the people dying because some terrorist state being formed on their land. You should know, you live there.

Don Seer:

--- Quote from: Fallujah Tech on November 24, 2005, 10:04:45 AM ---
--- Quote from: Overseer on November 24, 2005, 04:40:47 AM ---instead of following a diplomatic course that of course most muslims dont understand.

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 ???

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the population of iraq doesnt get democracy.. they have been brought up under fear.. their view of people with "power" is that they beat and mistreat the proletariat.  they're used to being ruled with an iron fist, not through ruling themselves..

left to themselves i'm sure after a long brutal war between the groups there one would gain control.

I TO DA GEEZY:

--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on November 25, 2005, 01:02:09 AM ---
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on November 25, 2005, 12:43:40 AM ---there are many people who die within their country due to their inhumane autocratic corrupt power-driven leaderships

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Yes that's true, but don't forget to mention the people dying because some terrorist state being formed on their land. You should know, you live there.

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Not really the topic but ok. Is it a terrorist state because it is defending its existence? Is it a terrorist state for trying to defend its citizens from being murdered?
under which circumstances did it capture land since the dawn of its formal existence?
How many of its citizens were killed under the supervision of its own authorities? what terrorist state are you talking about? One that is currently "being formed"?

J @ M @ L:

--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on November 25, 2005, 01:46:43 AM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on November 25, 2005, 01:02:09 AM ---
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on November 25, 2005, 12:43:40 AM ---there are many people who die within their country due to their inhumane autocratic corrupt power-driven leaderships

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Yes that's true, but don't forget to mention the people dying because some terrorist state being formed on their land. You should know, you live there.

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Not really the topic but ok. Is it a terrorist state because it is defending its existence? Is it a terrorist state for trying to defend its citizens from being murdered?
under which circumstances did it capture land since the dawn of its formal existence?
How many of its citizens were killed under the supervision of its own authorities? what terrorist state are you talking about? One that is currently "being formed"?


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Defending its citizens and its existence by shooting 3-10 year old girls? Occupied territories? Let's not ask how many of its own citizens it has killed, but rather how many Palestinians? I'm talking about the state of Israel, of course.

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