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EU slams Israel for its policies in East Jerusalem
J @ M @ L:
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--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on December 13, 2005, 08:06:03 AM ---Then I guess we agree.
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Good job, son... if you use common sense, you'll realize that I've been right all along, and if you agree with me, you too will see the truth. :)
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lol...."All Along"="The Palestinian People are Victims of Zionism"="Genralization"="B.S"
Everything you were right about I was happy to point out right away, however, it's sad you don't see where you were clearly reciting propaganda.
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Are you honestly implying that no innocent Palestinians have suffered because of Zionism?
If you are, then the discussion is over, and it's official that you're a brainwashed tool. Propaganda... just another thing a supporter of the Israeli government has no room to mention.... the country was established on propaganda..
I TO DA GEEZY:
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on December 14, 2005, 09:01:36 AM ---Are you honestly implying that no innocent Palestinians have suffered because of Zionism?
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No I'm not,people suffered on both sides-fact(that hasn't ever been in question, why are you fixated on something we agreed on?),all I'm saying is that the distance between this and the being of the Palestinian People a victim of Zionism, is too great to make such a statement.
Did you know that Palestinian terrorist prisoners in Israeli detention facilities live 10s of times better than Palestinians in the Autonomy? How does this add up to that generalization of yours?
J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on December 14, 2005, 11:43:04 AM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on December 14, 2005, 09:01:36 AM ---Are you honestly implying that no innocent Palestinians have suffered because of Zionism?
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No I'm not,people suffered on both sides-fact(that hasn't ever been in question, why are you fixated on something we agreed on?),all I'm saying is that the distance between this and the being of the Palestinian People a victim of Zionism, is too great to make such a statement.
Did you know that Palestinian terrorist prisoners in Israeli detention facilities live 10s of times better than Palestinians in the Autonomy? How does this add up to that generalization of yours?
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I didn't state that EVERY SINGLE PALESTINIAN was a victim. Do you get it?
Since you answered NO to my question, you're basically agreeing with me, and confirming that my statement was right all along... next time don't dance around in circles before you come to the realization that I'm right.
Is it wrong to say that Jews were victims of anti-Semitism in Europe during the 1930s? I mean, there were some Jews who were wealthy and well off... do those exceptions make that statement false? Seriously... you really can't be this dumb, stubborn, and ignorant... if you are, then good luck in life cuz you're gonna need it.
I TO DA GEEZY:
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on December 14, 2005, 12:58:11 PM ---Is it wrong to say that Jews were victims of anti-Semitism in Europe during the 1930s?
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First of all the fact of people suffering on both sides has never been in question. Second, I was waiting for this question of yours.
Many Jews had been victims of Anti-semitism that by definition was anti-Jewish(every anti-Semite is anti-Jewish), it does not mean that the Entire Jewish People had been a victim of anti-semitism even though The Jewish People was dwindled due to the holocaust( because large numbers of Jews died). Zionism: 1.by definition is not anti-Palestinian 2.increased the number of Palestinian People from 0 to millions.
And this is exactly why a generalization statement like "The Palestinian People have been Victims of Zionism" is propaganda, because it implies that the entire Palestinian People is a victim of Zionism(of every Zionist) and disregards the fact of Palestinians being victims of their leadership directly and indirectly ( the fact of Palestinians suffering from Zionism as a result of the reaction to the conduct of their leadership and not because of Zionist initiative.)....Check out my sig.
J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on December 15, 2005, 02:45:08 AM ---Zionism: 1.by definition is not anti-Palestinian 2.increased the number of Palestinian People from 0 to millions.
And this is exactly why a generalization statement like "The Palestinian People have been Victims of Zionism" is propaganda, because it implies that the entire Palestinian People is a victim of Zionism(of every Zionist) and disregards the fact of Palestinians being victims of their leadership directly and indirectly ( the fact of Palestinians suffering from Zionism as a result of the reaction to the conduct of their leadership and not because of Zionist initiative.)....Check out my sig.
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1. I never stated it was anti-Palestinian by definition; however, Zionist ideology has clearly made Palestinians the victims.
2. Increased the number of Palestinians from 0 to millions? LOLLL are you honestly this fucking ignorant?
Just because Palestinian nationalism emerged as a response to Zionism doesn't mean that there weren't any Palestinian people before the arrival of Zionist. The term used to describe the people may be new, but the people are the same people. When I say Palestinian I'm referring to the indigenous Arab population that was victimized by Zionists. Does the name being applied to the people change anything? No... it's still people dying...
It's like saying Columbus killed Native Americans... and some retard like you responding.. "No that's propaganda. The term Native
American wasn't used until centuries later."
3. I already discussed how the phrase doesn't necessarily apply to every Palestinian. Do you have difficulty comprehending?
LOL @ talking about propaganda and then saying "Zionism increased the population from 0 to millions"... if you really want to believe that, then throw something else into the equation...
Zionism = 0 + Millions - Thousands (killed, removed, etc.)
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