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EU slams Israel for its policies in East Jerusalem
I TO DA GEEZY:
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on November 29, 2005, 12:57:09 PM ---don't forget the many Muslims that died fighting the Zionist colonialist terrorists...
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--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on November 29, 2005, 01:34:33 PM ---Yeah... like that 10 year old girl who got capped 17 times
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And I thought we were talking about Muslims that died fighting! Again your statements are amazingly correlated!
Suddenly a 13 year old girl that surprisingly wasn't used by terrorists to transport explosives(like at previous times) and was killed due to unjustifiable malpractice(even under such circumstances under which the IDF was forced to operate due to unjustifiable support of terrorism on behalf of the Palestinian leadership like my sig states) EQUALS to Pallestinian Suicide bombers that intentionally infiltrate Israeli territory to kill as many civilians(and children among them to which you seem to have much less sympathy) as possible...Please go on, insult me if that's how you blow off steam due to the inner tensions raised while defending your pattern(of misconceptions), I don't dislike you or anything man, I just think you're a sad dude.
You've once again admitted that such concepts as terrorism and justice are synonymous to you while even daring to equalize an innocent girl to a suicide bomber<<this is what I call propaganda.
I wish you all the luck with your views.
I TO DA GEEZY:
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on November 29, 2005, 01:06:01 PM ---Their existence... prior to Herzl making it an organized movement. Are you really this fucking dumb? The ideology already existed... the beliefs in this mission were already there... it was just organized into a movement a little later... I honestly can't believe you're this dumb.
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The ideology and the movement existed prior to Herzel, your article claimed that the so called 'founder of Zionism' had an agenda against the Arab population, in other words(Again since you're not willing to logically connect two pieces of disinformation you yourself brought) it said:'Zionism was against the Arab population from its start' which is propaganda bullshit and the Problem is:
1.Herzel wasn't the start(or 'founder') of Zionism 2.His statement had no affect on a movement that existed prior to his political role and this statement.
(*Herzel did contribute to coordination between Zionists throughout Europe at the end of the 19th century but in no way was he the idealogical blackboard of Zionism nor was he the one to set tactical goals, in fact, Theodore Herzel knew very little about what was going on in Eretz Yisrael at his time. Zionist movements existed prior to Herzel. Even later Zionism would never become a monolithic movement but was, in fact, diverse and democratic.)
Educated local Arabs years later would define Zionism as "a companion to the Arab nationalist movement".
Last try to clarify. You can go back to clouding the discussion now.
P.S 1. Should we quote a few practical people now that held themselves responsible for Palestinian Self Determination? Should we maybe look at the Phased Plan again?
2.In case you don't know, Absentee Landlords(As distinguished from the refugees' Absentee properties issue...lol) -Wealthy Arabs from Egypt,Syria etc that owned land within Eretz Yisrael\Palestine, what's the problem in purchasing land from them?
3.The local Arab farmers, that were employed by these wealthy Arabs, never owned any of the land and never purchased any, Jews did.
J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on November 29, 2005, 01:34:33 PM ---
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on November 29, 2005, 01:25:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on November 29, 2005, 12:57:09 PM ---Since you care about Muslims who have died.. don't forget the many Muslims that died fighting the Zionist colonialist terrorists... and still to this day die fighting this occupation...
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Is this your way of referencing the so called 'Palestinian Freedom Fighters'?
Because most of these guys kinda like to kill themselves.
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Yeah... like that 10 year old girl who got capped 17 times... you've been done with, you made yourself look like a retard, it's over, don't keep embarassing yourself... go buy yourself something at the local falafel stand
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Go look up the word sarcasm in the dictionary... or at least quote the entire thing...
J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: I TO DA GEEZY on November 30, 2005, 09:24:27 AM ---
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on November 29, 2005, 01:06:01 PM ---Their existence... prior to Herzl making it an organized movement. Are you really this fucking dumb? The ideology already existed... the beliefs in this mission were already there... it was just organized into a movement a little later... I honestly can't believe you're this dumb.
--- End quote ---
The ideology and the movement existed prior to Herzel, your article claimed that the so called 'founder of Zionism' had an agenda against the Arab population, in other words(Again since you're not willing to logically connect two pieces of disinformation you yourself brought) it said:'Zionism was against the Arab population from its start' which is propaganda bullshit and the Problem is:
1.Herzel wasn't the start(or 'founder') of Zionism 2.His statement had no affect on a movement that existed prior to his political role and this statement.
(*Herzel did contribute to coordination between Zionists throughout Europe at the end of the 19th century but in no way was he the idealogical blackboard of Zionism nor was he the one to set tactical goals, in fact, Theodore Herzel knew very little about what was going on in Eretz Yisrael at his time. Zionist movements existed prior to Herzel. Even later Zionism would never become a monolithic movement but was, in fact, diverse and democratic.)
Educated local Arabs years later would define Zionism as "a companion to the Arab nationalist movement".
Last try to clarify. You can go back to clouding the discussion now.
P.S 1. Should we quote a few practical people now that held themselves responsible for Palestinian Self Determination? Should we maybe look at the Phased Plan again?
2.In case you don't know, Absentee Landlords(As distinguished from the refugees' Absentee properties issue...lol) -Wealthy Arabs from Egypt,Syria etc that owned land within Eretz Yisrael\Palestine, what's the problem in purchasing land from them?
3.The local Arab farmers, that were employed by these wealthy Arabs, never owned any of the land and never purchased any, Jews did.
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The famous Jewish philosopher Martin Buber related in his memoirs: "When Max Nordau, Herzl's second in command, first received details on the existence of an Arab population in Palestine, he came shocked to Herzl exclaiming: ‘I never realized this--we are committing an injustice.'"
LOL.. it's just funny how they admit it themselves, yet you try to deny it for them on their behalf... you have issues.
Zionists have themselves admitted that the only way they can accomplish their goal is through force, the removal of the indigenous population, etc... it was a colonialist movement... if you don't think so, look at the present time and the illegal settlements in the occupied territories.. which violate international law... you have nothing to ground your argument on...
It's like me trying to defend the Iranian leader's statements and saying "he didn't mean it.. he was kidding... he doesn't know what's going on"....
You've been over with... why do you keep coming back like an abused wife... you already embarassed yourself with your retarded statements... just go get yourself some falafel... better have it delivered though.
I TO DA GEEZY:
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on November 29, 2005, 12:57:09 PM ---Since you care about Muslims who have died.. don't forget the many Muslims that died fighting the Zionist colonialist terrorists... and still to this day die fighting this occupation...
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Nice way to promote anti-Israeli propaganda and then back down from it as soon as you're exposed, this way you can both say something morally unspeakable and yet remain the politically correct countenance of justice.
Try answering me:
1. Do you support Palestinian 'Freedom fighters'(Name factions and groups)?
2. Who are these Muslims you were talking about in the quote above(the ones that died 'fighting Zionism', according to you)?
3.Are they^ victims of Zionism?
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