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It's Late... I know... but God damn this hit me hard...
Shallow:
--- Quote from: I Want My Donation Back on December 04, 2005, 01:38:04 PM ---Yeah... i got the feeling they were building him up to double cross Batista and win the belt, but who knows.
I'd say it's the biggest tragedy to hit wrestling, period... I know Owen died tragically but he wasn't as iconic as Eddie Guerrero, who had just entered his prime years... Owen was still a little green when he died... I guess you could consider Owen more of a tragedy because he possibly had greater potential... but at the time of his death, it was still unrealized potential, whereas Eddie had already made a significant impact on all the top organizations and was just at the beginning of what would likely have been his glory years.
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Owen, green? That guy was a, absolute pro by '91 and he would have just as big a star as Eddie was if Vince didn't book him intio the ground. Watch his matches from Japan in the early 90s, his amazing tag matches with Yokozuna in the mid 90s, his great matches with Bulldog, HBK, Austin, and every shit jobber they threw his way. He was also the most over guy in the company next to Austin in late '97, early '98. Remember the nugget chants? Was he as good as Eddie? That's debatable, but he he certainly wasn't green. No one in that hart family was green after the age the 25.
As for biggest loss; maybe. David Von Erich was pretty big, as was Bruiser Brody. But Eddie's certainly up there with them.
Trauma-san:
^ Neither of those three were even on Eddie's level.
Owen was green, definitely. Of course he was a great wrestler, but so was Eddie 10 years ago. Eddie hadn't made it in a big way, then, though. I don't think you understand the difference between a good wrestler and a good pro wrestler. Saying Owen and Eddie Guerrero were similar is ludicrious, while Owen was likely a better tecnical wrestler than Eddie he was inferior in every other aspect of the wrestling 'package' it takes to grow into a legend. Owen likely would have got there but he hadn't yet at the time of his passing. Eddie had.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: I Want My Donation Back on December 04, 2005, 07:12:34 PM ---^ Neither of those three were even on Eddie's level.
Owen was green, definitely. Of course he was a great wrestler, but so was Eddie 10 years ago. Eddie hadn't made it in a big way, then, though. I don't think you understand the difference between a good wrestler and a good pro wrestler. Saying Owen and Eddie Guerrero were similar is ludicrious, while Owen was likely a better tecnical wrestler than Eddie he was inferior in every other aspect of the wrestling 'package' it takes to grow into a legend. Owen likely would have got there but he hadn't yet at the time of his passing. Eddie had.
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I agree that Eddie was higher up the booking ladder and a better promo man than Owen, but to say Owen was green is insane. Green implies you are a long way to go technically, meaning you have much to learn before you can be sonsidered good or great. Owen was already great. He wasa great promo, a grat character and great wrestler. The only difference between Owne's position on the roster, and Eddie's was that Eddie was booked to be champ and Owen was booked into the ground. If Owen was booked as the black hart/nugget and hada proper main event run then he would have with out a doubt been just as big if not bigger than Eddie now, in '99 when he died, of course he also never would have died. Owen had already proven 3 times that he could fit into a main event program and excel, first with Bret, then HBK, then Austin. Just because McMahon was so stupid and egotistical that he decided to bury him doesn't mean he was green.
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