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Religion?
Trauma-san:
--- Quote from: J Bananas on December 08, 2005, 04:17:30 PM ---I beleive in a God but I think religion has been one of the factors that makes human civilization one of the most violent. The concept of torture was created by religious people to convert non believers.
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I don't get what you mean, "religion has been one of the factors that makes human civiliazation one of the most violent" I thought human civilization was the only civilization, not 'one of the'.
My religious beliefs are that it's hard to know anything for sure, so I don't follow any particular religion. I guess I would consider myself a christian in that I would want to be like Jesus Christ, although I don't try very hard. I wasn't raised christian, I hardly ever went to church and they didn't talk about God much in my family. Like many poor white people, there was just kind of an understood belief in God but it wasn't a big part of our life.
I think most religions are rooted in concepts of a huge force for good out there, and how you should try to be part of that force and choose that whenever you can. Most people I've ever met (the vast, vast, VAST majority) are that way already in their souls. I think people are born good, I think children and babies and such wouldn't hurt a fly until they start getting perverted by their own parents, sadly. I think our natural state is to do good and want to help others, because I've never felt pleasure like I feel when I help somebody... so I think naturally, we are drawn to good... and good is synonomous with God. I think nearly everyone, spiritually, in their soul, are religious in the sense that they strive for what's right and good. That's most people's religion. I don't believe anyone who isn't a christian is going to hell, because that seems unfair to me. If it seems unfair to me, and I'm just a young child of god... how would it seem to him, all knowing? By definition, God is the most fair entity in the universe (if he isn't... then someone else would be, and HE would be God)... so I can't understand (and maybe that's the problem) why people try to divide those of a different faith from themselves.
At the same time, if you take a guy like Jesus Christ, or the written account we have of him, he's flawless. You cannot argue with 1 thing that Jesus ever said... so I can understand when people don't live by his teachings, or don't read about him, or don't follow him... I can understand that.... but when I see people mock him and publicly speak out against Jesus and his teachings, it really makes me wonder where their heart is. You'll never see me mocking a buddhist! for instance, or a hindu for what they believe. If people believe something good and think it helps their lives, more power to them.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: 7™ on December 08, 2005, 05:59:03 AM ---
if I had to choose I'd say Buddhism is the least horrible religion.
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No religion is horrible at it's essence. It's those that change it or add to it then pseudo-follow it that can be horrible.
africas seed:
^^Trauma thats some real shit
J Bananas:
Well I'l give it to ya religion does work for a lot of people in making them decent people but there's too many facts I cant ignore. And I consider humans animals. Any species's populated areas i consider their "Civilizations".
Just Another Sunny day in California:
--- Quote from: Trauma on December 08, 2005, 05:36:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: J Bananas on December 08, 2005, 04:17:30 PM ---I beleive in a God but I think religion has been one of the factors that makes human civilization one of the most violent. The concept of torture was created by religious people to convert non believers.
--- End quote ---
I don't get what you mean, "religion has been one of the factors that makes human civiliazation one of the most violent" I thought human civilization was the only civilization, not 'one of the'.
My religious beliefs are that it's hard to know anything for sure, so I don't follow any particular religion. I guess I would consider myself a christian in that I would want to be like Jesus Christ, although I don't try very hard. I wasn't raised christian, I hardly ever went to church and they didn't talk about God much in my family. Like many poor white people, there was just kind of an understood belief in God but it wasn't a big part of our life.
I think most religions are rooted in concepts of a huge force for good out there, and how you should try to be part of that force and choose that whenever you can. Most people I've ever met (the vast, vast, VAST majority) are that way already in their souls. I think people are born good, I think children and babies and such wouldn't hurt a fly until they start getting perverted by their own parents, sadly. I think our natural state is to do good and want to help others, because I've never felt pleasure like I feel when I help somebody... so I think naturally, we are drawn to good... and good is synonomous with God. I think nearly everyone, spiritually, in their soul, are religious in the sense that they strive for what's right and good. That's most people's religion. I don't believe anyone who isn't a christian is going to hell, because that seems unfair to me. If it seems unfair to me, and I'm just a young child of god... how would it seem to him, all knowing? By definition, God is the most fair entity in the universe (if he isn't... then someone else would be, and HE would be God)... so I can't understand (and maybe that's the problem) why people try to divide those of a different faith from themselves.
At the same time, if you take a guy like Jesus Christ, or the written account we have of him, he's flawless. You cannot argue with 1 thing that Jesus ever said... so I can understand when people don't live by his teachings, or don't read about him, or don't follow him... I can understand that.... but when I see people mock him and publicly speak out against Jesus and his teachings, it really makes me wonder where their heart is. You'll never see me mocking a buddhist! for instance, or a hindu for what they believe. If people believe something good and think it helps their lives, more power to them.
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that's a dope read right now. props.
religion as for me? i'm catholic born and raised. i don't claim this is the best religion or what not but i do know one thing, it's what i believe in
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