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President of Iran says Israel should be moved to Europe.....
J @ M @ L:
That doesn't mean shit... you have to start realizing when two things correlate and when they don't...
I TO DA GEEZY:
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on December 11, 2005, 03:58:48 PM ---That doesn't mean shit... you have to start realizing when two things correlate and when they don't...
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You're forgeting what the agrument is. Based on my posts on the Arab\Israeli conflict and due to the fact I'm affected by the everyday life in Israel, you claim that I'm brainwashed.
To prove your point you brought up that "Being affected by something and actually caring about what's going on....doesn't necessarily correlate with knowing" ,in other words, people who are affected to an extent they start caring, when fed with propaganda,may become brainwashed....this is what you're saying, and I agree.
But what I'm asking you is- Would an anti-Palestinian/anti-Arab brainwashed Israeli person(if you're accepting that I am one) be able to have Palestinian friends?
or would an Anti-Arab American person be able to have Arab friends?
Would you define Nazis in WW2 as brainwashed? How many of them had Jewish friends?
p.s let alone those brainwashed people on both sides who think all Arabs/Jews need to be murdered
J @ M @ L:
I have plenty of Jewish friends.. but that has nothing to do with me being against the actions of the Israeli state... I'm Muslim but I don't agree with what's going on in Saudi Arabia... like I said, it doesn't mean shit... but to answer your question... I don't think you're anti-Palestinian or anti-Arab... I don't make these types of assumptions simply because you defend the right of Israel to exist and blame all the problems on Arab leadership... that doesn't make you a racist or anything... it just means you're misinformed...
Here's the thing... I'm not trying to argue whether Israel has the right to exist or not.. all I stated is that the Palestinian people have in one way or another been victims of Zionism... and you have to be a straight up retarded tool to deny that... I don't care if there was 1 refugee or 1 million... there have been victims as a result of the Zionist movement... I don't care if 1 innocent person was killed by Zionist terrorists or 10,000... there have been victims as a result of the Zionist movement... honestly it's like trying to deny the holocaust happened... does it really fucking matter if 3-4 million Jews died or 6 million? No.. it happened and it was fucked up regardless of how many million there were.. as a sidenote, people still deny the Armenian Genocide, when it's fact that it occurred... the U.S. and Turkey still haven't accepted it though... Turks have presented "facts" to support their claims... but the fact that any evidence exists that it did happen refutes the Turkish claims ... in the same way, any evidence supporting the fact that Palestinians were murdered, had their villages destroyed, etc (don't forget Jenin)... refutes your shit...
You make yourself look dumb and lose any sort of credibility making irrational, ignorant claims like that.
Let me ask you one simple question... if Zionist leaders have admitted to carrying out the discussed acts... then why do you insist that those things never happened? why do you try to defend lies when those who committed the acts have already admitted to them? it honestly makes no sense.. i don't know if you're trying to imply that those guys lied when they said those things and only said them just to simply say them or what...
King Tech Quadafi:
There can be nothing further contributed to this debate. It was obvious YEARS ago that Igeezy is lost. Honestly, u make those Nuke Em All Hicks look like liberal Multilateralists. If by this point, youre still replyin the way u are....there is no hope for u.
I TO DA GEEZY:
--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on December 12, 2005, 04:30:52 AM ---Let me ask you one simple question... if Zionist leaders have admitted to carrying out the discussed acts... then why do you insist that those things never happened? why do you try to defend lies when those who committed the acts have already admitted to them? it honestly makes no sense.. i don't know if you're trying to imply that those guys lied when they said those things and only said them just to simply say them or what...
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Many people on both sides died-fact.It doesn't mean you can make such a genralization. By saying "The Palestinian People Are Victims Of Zionism" you're not saying "Large numbers of Palestinians were killed throughout the conflict" you're saying "Every Palestinian is a victim of Zionism" which is untrue and is in fact propaganda because there are plenty of Palestinians who thrive on the Zionist enterprise.
Here let's use logic:
If you accept- The Palestinian People are victims of Zionism
knowing that:
20% of Israel's (Israel-Zionist enterprise) population is Palestinian and lives 100s of times better the Arabs in the Palestinian Autonomy
-It is immediately disproved.
Although every Palestinian, without exception, is a byproduct of Zionism.
No Zionism=No Palestinians
And it is wierd that someone who is willing to make such a generalization is not making it when it comes to Palestinians being victims of their leadership....
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