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Stanley "Tookie" Williams needs to be executed
Shallow:
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--- Quote from: Shallow on December 11, 2005, 07:26:54 AM ---My point is that he's dead anyway. And if he has valid info then the'd get protection.
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What kind of protection can they offer him in San Quentin, anyway? Witness protection doesn't work that way.
And yeah, you're right he's dead anyway, but perhaps he'd prefer to exhaust his other options first (i.e. see if he can get clemency) before resorting to snitching.
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It's not "resorting" it's doing what he can to clean up the streets. He's claimed many times that he is not afraid to die. If I were on death row and had info that could make a huge impact on cleaning the streets (if he has that info) then I would "snitch" in a heart beat. And they have special cells and could even relocate him. You know how many guys would like to get their hands on someone like Charles Manson? He's been protected.
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The reason Tookie won't snitch is because he would lose his credibillity with the youth and wouldnt be able to broker peace treatys with the gangs.
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Is that what he does? If so I guess it depends on what would help the streets more, putting most of the big gang members in jail or keep peace between some of them (if he has the info).
mauzip:
California justices reject Williams' appeal
Governor to decide on clemency request
SACRAMENTO, California (CNN) -- California's Supreme Court late Sunday rejected an emergency request to stay the execution of convicted killer Stanley Tookie Williams, who is scheduled to be put to death early Tuesday.
Jonathan Harris, an attorney for Williams, confirmed the court's decision.
Williams' team of attorneys had asked the state Supreme Court for a stay to allow for new arguments to be presented.
Earlier Sunday, attorney Verna Wefald said the legal team was asking for a stay on the basis that Williams should have been allowed to argue that someone else killed one of the four people he was convicted of slaying.
Williams also is awaiting California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's decision on clemency, which would commute his death sentence to life in prison without the possibility of parole. Schwarzenegger's office said the decision would not come before Monday.
On Friday, the governor described his looming decision as "a very heavy responsibility."
Williams -- who would turn 52 on December 29 -- is to die by lethal injection.
He co-founded the Crips street gang in Los Angeles and was convicted of killing four people in 1979, but has become an anti-gang crusader while on death row.
He has denounced gang violence and written children's books with an anti-gang message, donating the proceeds to anti-gang community groups. He said he was trying to prevent young people from making the choices he did, which led to a life of crime and a sentence at San Quentin State Prison.
Celebrities, teachers and anti-death-penalty advocates have spoken on his behalf.
Prosecutors maintain Williams should die for what lead prosecutor John Monaghan called "extremely brutal crimes." Monaghan noted that despite his anti-gang activism, Williams has consistently refused to take part in a debriefing with authorities to provide them potentially valuable information about the Crips gangs.
Williams was convicted of killing a 26-year-old Los Angeles convenience store clerk in February 1979, shooting him twice in the back with a 12-gauge shotgun while the victim was face down on the floor.
Less than two weeks later, jurors concluded, he shot and killed an immigrant Chinese couple and their 41-year-old daughter while stealing less than $100 cash from their motel.
Both cases were handled in a single trial, and Williams was sentenced to death in 1981.
7even:
Am I the only who doesn't get the concept how writing children's books should give you strong benefits law-wise?
Javier:
--- Quote from: 7™ on December 12, 2005, 09:55:22 AM ---Am I the only who doesn't get the concept how writing children's books should give you strong benefits law-wise?
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At least if the Governor awards Williams of clemency it will be for a somewhat just reason. Unlike how President's are able to pardon criminals that dont even come close to deserving it.
Mr. O:
i believe the decision has been made//..at least with 9th circuit court.
it's most likely arnold will go with the court.
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