The Cancer (Shaq) got what he wanted....Pat Riley will be his Coach

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acbaylove:

--- Quote from: The Big Bad Ass on December 12, 2005, 10:32:20 PM ---So... he wins you 3 championships, and he's a cancer? Ya'll should appreciate the man for bringing LA even more hardware to the shelf.
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The fact he was a great basketball player (MVP calyber, no doubt) doesn't mean he wasn't/isn't a bastard. He was uncoachable (i'm quoting Jackson and Winter), jealous, arrogant and childish. But the fact he was the MVP forced Lakers to tolerate all the negative things. Now that he's no longer an MVP type of player, it's even dumber to let him act this way. Hey, but Miami almost sold the arena to give him a full extension, so they did the right thing firigin Van Gundy to make Shaq happy. They put Miami in his hands. Good luck winning a ring, Heat. lol.

acbaylove:

--- Quote from: hisairness on December 13, 2005, 08:02:51 AM ---^^^Exactly. Lakers fans won't admit that Kobe is also a cancer who got what he wanted...to be the leader of the team and not make the playoffs for the next few years..
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Facts: Kobe Bryant was a free agent. How can a free agent be so important to choose the staff, the teammates and the coach? C'mon.
Shaq: demandend the trade after Buss refused to give him an extention max contract. But he asked for it, so he wanted to stay in L.A.
Phil: Buss traded Shaq and chosed to totally change the playing style of the Lakers by restoring the showtime and by having a run&gun type of play. So he fired Phil ("triangle was boring"), signing Rudy T. Plus the fact Phil asked too much didn't help.

Now Buss signed Phil again cause Rudy T failed, accepting 10m per year.
And Kobe accepted Phil no matter the fact Phil wrote that book against him.

Kobe is far from being the real cancer.

Phil acted extremely immature by calling him out on a book, and then returning to coach the Lakers.
Shaq acted like usual very immature by saying Kobe was the reason he left, while Kobe was a Free Agent and while it was been Buss to refuse him max contract, after Shaq asked for it.

Now i don't wanna say Kobe is perfect. Kobe did thousands of mistakes. But no more than Phil and Shaq.

--- Quote from: hisairness on December 13, 2005, 08:02:51 AM ---Shaq is the reason they won those three titles, but ask any Laker's fan/Shaq hater, and it was all because of Kobe.
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Both the things are pretty childish. The reasons were multiple, including Shaq and Kobe. The reasons were Horry too. And Fox, and Fisher, and Harper, and Shaw, and Lue, and Phil Jackson, and Tex Winter, and everybody. It was a perfect TEAM. In fact Shaq, in other teams not perfect like them Lakers, never won a ring and never will.

--- Quote ---Hold on tight my friend, you and I are about to get flamed!
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Just for a wrong argument? Naw, i don't like to diss people. I simply have a different opinion than you both.

Now_Im_Not_Banned:

--- Quote from: hisairness on December 13, 2005, 08:02:51 AM ---^^^Exactly. Lakers fans won't admit that Kobe is also a cancer who got what he wanted...to be the leader of the team and not make the playoffs for the next few years..

Shaq is the reason they won those three titles, but ask any Laker's fan/Shaq hater, and it was all because of Kobe.

Hold on tight my friend, you and I are about to get flamed!

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Sorry, you are retarded...I hate idiots like you who don't know what the fuck they're saying. Shaq wanted an EXTREME amount of money. Look at what state Shaq is in right now and ask yourself if the extension he was demanding was logical? If Buss woulda' been insane enough to give Shaq that extension, the Lakers woulda been fucked financially for the next few years, they wouldn't have been able to re-sign Kobe or get any other good players for that matter...Shaq fucked LA in the ass. Shaq is a fucking snake and he's doing it again...I'm almost positive Shaq is behind the shit that's going on in Miami as well...With that being said, Kobe is the furthest thing from being a cancer. He is a hard-worker, willing to excel, always giving it his all...A true champion...People who think like you are a disgrace to basketball... ::)

Now_Im_Not_Banned:

--- Quote from: The Big Bad Ass on December 12, 2005, 10:32:20 PM ---So... he wins you 3 championships, and he's a cancer? Ya'll should appreciate the man for bringing LA even more hardware to the shelf.

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I guess I mistook your comment and thought you were addressing Pat Riley...Shaq is not a cancer, but he fucked LA in the ass with his demands for a kings salary and his need to be in control with decisions etc...He was a great player and I appreciate the effort he put forth in the 3peat era before he started showing up to training camp overweight, out of shape, and on the verge of getting injured his last few seasons in LA...Then he demanded a trade and called the city of LA "fake"...That's what did it for us Laker fans... he was as quick to turn his back and shit on this organization as he was to help it reach the top...

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