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united states exporting violence to canada
Lincoln:
--- Quote from: Eihtball on December 28, 2005, 10:24:20 AM ---
--- Quote from: Lincoln The Reform-A-Tory on December 28, 2005, 10:18:24 AM ---You know nothing of my country, our borders are a complete joke and then when someone gets arrested the prison has a revolving door. Instead of blaming some other country our government should take responsibility for its own shortcomings, handguns are a very recent phenomenom in the Toronto area, every government from Bennett to Campbell kept violence to a big minimum.
Typical liberal bullshit, blame the US for everything. Like I give a flying fuck about the US, I only care about my own country.
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Fine, I'm not saying Canada shouldn't control its borders better. But you cannot say the U.S. has no responsibility - it is quite true that illegal guns can be easily acquired form the U.S. because of how lax our gun control laws are. Maybe you don't give a fuck about this country, but I certainly give a fuck because I LIVE here, and I've seen enough people get killed with guns in my lifetime that I'm quite well aware of the effect it's having upon society.
And I'm not blaming the U.S. for EVERYTHING, but I am saying we do have a responsibility to regulate our own weapons so that they aren't being illegally sold in other countries.
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If you let someone stab you, it's your own fault for not defending yourself. However if you do defend yourself and still end up with a wound, it's still partly your fault for not defending yourself well enough as well as that person's fault. That's the way I see it.
Eihtball:
--- Quote from: Lincoln The Reform-A-Tory on December 28, 2005, 10:29:11 AM ---If you let someone stab you, it's your own fault for not defending yourself. However if you do defend yourself and still end up with a wound, it's still partly your fault for not defending yourself well enough as well as that person's fault. That's the way I see it.
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OK, homie, that was a WACK analogy. I thought conservatives are all about placing blame on the person who committed the crime? If someone stabs you, that person still has to do time for the crime and accept responsibility. What you've said makes no sense. If guns from the U.S. are getting into Canada because of our lax gun control laws, we still owe it to Canada (whether you care or not) to control them better so that this doesn't happen. Maybe Canada should be enforcing its borders better, but the U.S. should be doing a better job of keeping its gun violence contained.
Suga Foot:
Toronto has nothing to worry about. I was watching the news last night, and they compared the number of murders in TO, to the number of murders in Chicago (both cities are about the same size). Tornto had like 78 last year and Chicago had like 430. And Chicago isn't even known for being a dangerous place. For a city of 4-5 million like Toronto, I think it's numbers are still safe.
herpes:
--- Quote from: Adon on December 28, 2005, 11:44:08 AM ---Toronto has nothing to worry about. I was watching the news last night, and they compared the number of murders in TO, to the number of murders in Chicago (both cities are about the same size). Tornto had like 78 last year and Chicago had like 430. And Chicago isn't even known for being a dangerous place. For a city of 4-5 million like Toronto, I think it's numbers are still safe.
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some people here and on other message boards make tdot sound like new york back in 92, 78 murders thats nothing
Suga Foot:
--- Quote from: Teflon Tom Gotti on December 28, 2005, 12:18:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: Adon on December 28, 2005, 11:44:08 AM ---Toronto has nothing to worry about. I was watching the news last night, and they compared the number of murders in TO, to the number of murders in Chicago (both cities are about the same size). Tornto had like 78 last year and Chicago had like 430. And Chicago isn't even known for being a dangerous place. For a city of 4-5 million like Toronto, I think it's numbers are still safe.
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some people here and on other message boards make tdot sound like new york back in 92, 78 murders thats nothing
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I know, and it's even worse here in Canada. Everyone in Toronto wants it to be New York, they aren't happy with it just being Toronto. Toronto has self-esteem issues.
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