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Title: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da_notorious_mack on October 17, 2006, 02:58:34 AM
record sales.....lyricism.....credibility....



london hands down....


last westcoast video ive seen(excludin Game) was Snoop ft Coolio LOL



London still got a way to go before he can compete with the south or east but they have surpassed the west...its a fact...

Kano
Klashnekoff
Terra Firma
Sway
Northstar
Baby Blu
Akala
Ghetto
JME
Mike GLC


^^^all broke thru this year...and im only namely artists im personally feelin..I EXCLUDED QUITE A LOT OF GUYS WHO ARE MOVIN MAJOR UNITS(DIZZee roll deep,lethal b)

who has the west got comin thru???

bishop
game
crooked
glasses

an only 1 of dem is 100% to drop an album...


discuss
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Chief on October 17, 2006, 02:59:58 AM
with a thread title like that, it's obvious there isnt much to discuss..
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da_notorious_mack on October 17, 2006, 03:53:28 AM
wat a strong argument u have!


westcoast heads still have 94-96....they should be proud...


but its over now...



or that dre album may drop..and theyll take over in 2032..


but theres no-one comin out of west beside the artists i listed...an 3 of dem are unlikely to drop...no-one else is makin newz....


shiit...theres even a best u.k segment in the BET awards......and BET dosent even get broadcast here....so there must be interest from u.s markets....


westcoast only makes goot net-gangstaz......FACT
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: SoCal Iz Active on October 17, 2006, 03:55:45 AM
and who cares about these rappers besides you and your country?

exactly. you got sonned now get the fuck off of my computer screen.
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Lord Funk on October 17, 2006, 04:00:37 AM
Last UK album I got was Yungun & Mr Thing's Grown Man Business.

It had more replay value than most of the US CDs I've bought this year.
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da_notorious_mack on October 17, 2006, 04:04:20 AM
Boy check stats who cares bout ur coast...???

west dont even get much play stateside...


e-40 been around years..only way he gets play is jumpin on tracks wit t-pain...


who else?...part from game....


plus as i said.......

shiit...theres even a best u.k segment in the BET awards......and BET dosent even get broadcast here....so there must be interest from u.s markets....

plus dips,sheek louch,graf,busta all big up an work with u.k acts....shit baby blue and s.a.s even signed wit da dips......so show me where i got sonned...son...


Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da_notorious_mack on October 17, 2006, 04:06:27 AM
Last UK album I got was Yungun & Mr Thing's Grown Man Business.

It had more replay value than most of the US CDs I've bought this year.


you american???


funny thing is...i know the guys jumpin in ere...aint heard shit from u.k......i listened to u.s hip hop 4 years...so im informed.....an iff i was just makin stupid statements id say u.k hip hop>>>>>u.s hip hop.....but we aint there just yet....but the west is dead.....
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Chief on October 17, 2006, 04:07:44 AM
i have never heard a U.K hiphop track on the radio... hey maybe i heard dizzy rascal once or twice, but where the fuck is he now?
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: SoCal Iz Active on October 17, 2006, 04:09:15 AM
oh no I live in california so I automatically will defend rap coming from my state? i don't give a shit where the music is from but if it sucks, i call it how I see it. and no i have a friend who IMs me on MSN frequently and he wanted me to listen to some UK rap and that shit was garbage. I think I can say that no one in America gives a flying shit about goofy sounding fucks rapping. It sounds corny and lame.

And guess what: Everything the westcoast has done offsets anything your underground scene has done. Eat shit and die.
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Lord Funk on October 17, 2006, 04:14:33 AM
Last UK album I got was Yungun & Mr Thing's Grown Man Business.

It had more replay value than most of the US CDs I've bought this year.


you american???


funny thing is...i know the guys jumpin in ere...aint heard shit from u.k......i listened to u.s hip hop 4 years...so im informed.....an iff i was just makin stupid statements id say u.k hip hop>>>>>u.s hip hop.....but we aint there just yet....but the west is dead.....

Nah, I'm from the UK, but I don't know as much about the homegrown scene as I'd like apart from some battered Hijack tapes from when I was 11.

The problem for me is finding new artists and then tracking down their CDs. I like HHC mag a lot - the US hip-0hop magazines pale in comparison. Where do you get your info from Mack?
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da_notorious_mack on October 17, 2006, 04:15:23 AM
how many units the west moved this year????...

oh and dizzee's doin films blud..with an album out this year..


one track


-terra firma-war


tell me its wack


an tell me who hot comin outta westcoast cus u jus chattin bullshit...?..u havent made 1 good point yet...
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da_notorious_mack on October 17, 2006, 04:16:59 AM
i listen to 1xtra..channel u..lot of big stores have started sellin the mixtapes too..


if u d/lin..ill make u a playlist..u could try an get...


nuvva tune 4 the haters..


kano ft vybez cartel-buss it up
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Lord Funk on October 17, 2006, 04:19:28 AM
Nah, I'm not downloading at the moment - moving flat so my shit's all over the place.

I'm not too much a fan of the grime kinda stuff, more the stgraight hip-hop - any albums you'd recommend?
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: SoCal Iz Active on October 17, 2006, 04:19:42 AM
how many units the west moved this year????...

oh and dizzee's doin films blud..with an album out this year..


one track


-terra firma-war


tell me its wack


an tell me who hot comin outta westcoast cus u jus chattin bullshit...?..u havent made 1 good point yet...

besides your dick riding ass and anyone who lives in the UK, who listens to anyone from the UK? Exactly.

Who listens to the Westcoast? The whole world.

UK Rap = W A C K.

Oh no the westcoast hasn't sold much but who has besides the south? If record sales make a MC then 50 Cent is the Greatest of All Time because he went plat in one week. See how much sense that makes? Get off these worthless rappers dicks.
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Digital Pimpin' on October 17, 2006, 04:24:47 AM
The UK hip hop sound is all 'grime' and it's an acquired taste. There are a lot of up and coming artists and some have some lyrical ability but better than the West Coast? No way.
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Don Seer on October 17, 2006, 04:25:39 AM

< is english


< doesn't care

Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da_notorious_mack on October 17, 2006, 04:27:22 AM
allright turn on my tele who i see whose not from the south


busta
jayz
nas
papoose
jada
styles
obie
eminem
50
llyod banks
dmx
ja rule

thats off the top of my head

then from the west.......game...

oh an dey show the new snoop ft coolio....thats the joint... ::)


an 4 the 3rd time...

shiit...theres even a best u.k segment in the BET awards......and BET dosent even get broadcast here....so there must be interest from u.s markets....


who listened to westcoast=the world in 96
who listens now=the westcoast



go back to the annoyin accent argument...its still bullshit an ignorant..but it holds more weight dan the bullshit yall throwin up...





Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: SoCal Iz Active on October 17, 2006, 04:29:43 AM
allright turn on my tele who i see whose not from the south


busta
jayz
nas
papoose
jada
styles
obie
eminem
50
llyod banks
dmx
ja rule

thats off the top of my head

then from the west.......game...

oh an dey show the new snoop ft coolio....thats the joint... ::)


an 4 the 3rd time...

shiit...theres even a best u.k segment in the BET awards......and BET dosent even get broadcast here....so there must be interest from u.s markets....


who listened to westcoast=the world in 96
who listens now=the westcoast



go back to the annoyin accent argument...its still bullshit an ignorant..but it holds more weight dan the bullshit yall throwin up...








who do I not see/hear in america? any of those rappers you put up
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da_notorious_mack on October 17, 2006, 04:31:38 AM
The UK hip hop sound is all 'grime' and it's an acquired taste. There are a lot of up and coming artists and some have some lyrical ability but better than the West Coast? No way.

no dont get confused..theres artists dat do both...but its very different...u could never describe terra firma or ty as "grime"

which brings me to the "hyphy" movement bein a complete rip off or the grime sound...

an from what ive heard they should leave it alone...

thats the problem..the west dosent have its own sound anymore...

an no-one has pointed out any artists comin thru besides the 1s i listed..ill even add 1 4 you..

LIL E

but if he gets released id be suprised..

what is hilarious..is ive posted here 4 years..an u guys defendin the west are the same guys who make the "westcoast is dead" "how can we bring the westcoast back?" threads.....
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da_notorious_mack on October 17, 2006, 04:32:47 AM
allright turn on my tele who i see whose not from the south


busta
jayz
nas
papoose
jada
styles
obie
eminem
50
llyod banks
dmx
ja rule

thats off the top of my head

then from the west.......game...

oh an dey show the new snoop ft coolio....thats the joint... ::)


an 4 the 3rd time...

shiit...theres even a best u.k segment in the BET awards......and BET dosent even get broadcast here....so there must be interest from u.s markets....


who listened to westcoast=the world in 96
who listens now=the westcoast



go back to the annoyin accent argument...its still bullshit an ignorant..but it holds more weight dan the bullshit yall throwin up...








who do I not see/hear in america? any of those rappers you put up


watch the BET awards.....i cant they dont broadcast it here!
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Nutty on October 17, 2006, 04:40:57 AM

Nah, I'm from the UK, but I don't know as much about the homegrown scene as I'd like apart from some battered Hijack tapes from when I was 11.

The problem for me is finding new artists and then tracking down their CDs. I like HHC mag a lot - the US hip-0hop magazines pale in comparison. Where do you get your info from Mack?

Is that HHC as in HipHopConnection? Shiet, I haven't seen that in yonks.

I haven't heard much UK hip hop so I can't really pass judgement. Even if I have, I still dun believe I'd put them over the WC.
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Lord Funk on October 17, 2006, 04:49:11 AM

Nah, I'm from the UK, but I don't know as much about the homegrown scene as I'd like apart from some battered Hijack tapes from when I was 11.

The problem for me is finding new artists and then tracking down their CDs. I like HHC mag a lot - the US hip-0hop magazines pale in comparison. Where do you get your info from Mack?

Is that HHC as in HipHopConnection? Shiet, I haven't seen that in yonks.

Yeah. I subscribed to it as a kid, til I was about 18. Didn't read another copy til last month. The writing is so much better than XXL or The Source, the interviews are hotter and there's a lot more in it full stop. Can't argue with free CDs on the cover either.
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: anony on October 17, 2006, 05:10:48 AM
with a thread title like that, it's obvious there isnt much to discuss..
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: d-nice on October 17, 2006, 08:53:26 AM
Who cares what coast or country you are from. Hip hop is hip hop. I have not heard any UK acts but I got an open ear. Who's music is poppin over there?
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Sanford - V. President of the Dangerous Crew Movement on October 17, 2006, 08:57:41 AM
I haven't heard much UK hip hop so I can't really pass judgement. Even if I have, I still dun believe I'd put them over the WC.

you meant you wont, right?  if so, i agree.


Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da_notorious_mack on October 17, 2006, 08:58:11 AM
Who cares what coast or country you are from. Hip hop is hip hop. I have not heard any UK acts but I got an open ear. Who's music is poppin over there?


see this is the type of response mans want...an open mind....


check out kano...klashnekoff....akala...Ty......and sway...


dat should hold u 4 starters.....look for tunes by Terra Firma...thats klashnekoffs kru...they are lookin strong this year..jus dropped a new track "war" an the mixtapes out later this year....

Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Paul on October 17, 2006, 09:04:54 AM
^^^^^ akala - shakespear is one of the hottest songs in the uk rite now

tht would def apeal to the US
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: JMan on October 17, 2006, 09:05:58 AM
basically the only uk people i have time for are likes of kano and sway because ive followed them since i was at school...
people like ghetto and jme aint much homie, they are okish over grime but we are talking bout real rap here.. yeh your right about west isnt doing much now and listing all these artists that may not drop albums but honestley they have got much more talent then anyone from the uk so comparing isnt an option...
+ the british production is another thing denting their credability, isnt too many big names doing many things to be honest
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da_notorious_mack on October 17, 2006, 09:23:00 AM
basically the only uk people i have time for are likes of kano and sway because ive followed them since i was at school...
people like ghetto and jme aint much homie, they are okish over grime but we are talking bout real rap here.. yeh your right about west isnt doing much now and listing all these artists that may not drop albums but honestley they have got much more talent then anyone from the uk so comparing isnt an option...
+ the british production is another thing denting their credability, isnt too many big names doing many things to be honest


see.....thats a well structured argument.....

JME....im taking his age into consideration....hes seems to keep gettn betta..an hes rolln wit the right people(skepta.klashnekoff,sizzla etc)

Ghetto...ghetto is just fiyah...cant see why any1 wouldnt like him...

Kano ft Ghetto-ghetto kid
Akala ft Ghetto and Big Seac-Knowbody
Ghetto ft Katie Pearl-on the road

all dope tracks where he shines imo...

and production wise...lot of grime ppl slackin....id agree....but theres some dope hea(davinche,low deep,JT,Mike GLC).....but yer if anything needs improvin it would be production..but dats part of the appeal i feel...the fact its not so polished...it still has that rawness..it feels like music from the streets for the streets..

an whens the last time u could say dat about a snoop track...
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da_notorious_mack on October 17, 2006, 09:24:49 AM
^^^^^ akala - shakespear is one of the hottest songs in the uk rite now

tht would def apeal to the US

yer..so would "dat boy akala"....cant believe dat didnt make the album..


u peeped the illastate mixtape.."a lil bit darker"..if u like akala ud love it...


peep this track if u can find it

Akala ft giggs and buckboy-IC3
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Narrator on October 17, 2006, 09:44:05 AM
I like Klashnekoff...don't sleep y'all.

But otherwise, West Coast is still >>>>>>>>>> London.
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: JMan on October 17, 2006, 09:48:04 AM
basically the only uk people i have time for are likes of kano and sway because ive followed them since i was at school...
people like ghetto and jme aint much homie, they are okish over grime but we are talking bout real rap here.. yeh your right about west isnt doing much now and listing all these artists that may not drop albums but honestley they have got much more talent then anyone from the uk so comparing isnt an option...
+ the british production is another thing denting their credability, isnt too many big names doing many things to be honest


see.....thats a well structured argument.....

JME....im taking his age into consideration....hes seems to keep gettn betta..an hes rolln wit the right people(skepta.klashnekoff,sizzla etc)

Ghetto...ghetto is just fiyah...cant see why any1 wouldnt like him...

Kano ft Ghetto-ghetto kid
Akala ft Ghetto and Big Seac-Knowbody
Ghetto ft Katie Pearl-on the road

all dope tracks where he shines imo...

and production wise...lot of grime ppl slackin....id agree....but theres some dope hea(davinche,low deep,JT,Mike GLC).....but yer if anything needs improvin it would be production..but dats part of the appeal i feel...the fact its not so polished...it still has that rawness..it feels like music from the streets for the streets..

an whens the last time u could say dat about a snoop track...


yeh mate thats fair.. i havent really listened to any of the uk hiphop / grime scene in like over year n a bit so im a bit in the dark too which artists have up'd their games and whos working with who etc.. use to own a grip of dvds like lord of the decks 1/2/3, lord of the mics too
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Boo-Yaa † on October 17, 2006, 09:49:57 AM
LMAO!!!!!!

i cant believe this shit!!!

West Coast >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> London.

And im from the uk (fuck the crown) ...

Most london acts are just wannabe's!!!

You got N.Mack doing his thang, trying to spread the word about london hiphop to you americans...

Trying to get this shit on the map!

Just ignore him, the shit isnt even worth the listen!!!!
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: d-nice on October 17, 2006, 09:52:48 AM
Alright I will check out Klashnekoff.
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: $Eg2$ on October 17, 2006, 10:02:32 AM
Stupidest Thread ever thats kool dogg your from the UK and your gonna support your local stuff well im from the West and im gonna support my West Coast But I bet if you go to a UK music forum i bet you wont find West Coast catz checkin for there music But in here in a West Coast Forum theres Tons of Catz overseas checkin for the West and that pretty much destroys any arguement you have about London LOL being better then the West Coast !


eg2 bitch
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: everlast1986 on October 17, 2006, 10:08:24 AM
I've enjoyed most of the stuff i've heard from Roots Manuva.

Dizzee Rascals first album was ok

Sway - 'This Is My Demo' is pretty good

y'all should check out The Herbaliser though theyre my favorite hip hop artists out of the UK

Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: J Bananas on October 17, 2006, 12:53:46 PM
westcoast>>>eastcoast>>>>south>>>>canada>>>>>>>>>>>>english rappers


dudes a clown who started this thread i wish i could diss him like 30 points at once
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Dj Eskimo on October 17, 2006, 01:17:25 PM
"Who listens to the Westcoast? The whole world.

UK Rap = W A C K."

man this has to be the most ignorant comment ive heard for a while, if the whole world listens to the WestCoast why cant i pick up the new Mitchy Slick album in my local HMV/Virgin Megastores but i can pick up the latest Papoose mixtape? and if the whole world listens to the Westcoast why cant your average hiphop head tell me anything about the west since 96ish? as stated the only cats that are big from the west at the min are Snoop/Dre/Xzibit and Game...

Im from North London and im not saying that we are better than the westcoast but the UK scene is pretty damn close to being as good/better than the west coast game at the min... a lot of people out here are doing it big and getting a lot of recognition aswell, the problem is that the yanks only get the best selling artists from the UK such as Dizzee Rascal, i like rascal, his dope but his not the jewel in the UK crown, you need to check out dudes like, Lowkey, Klashnekoff, Braintax, Skinnyman, Kyza, Ty... you cant just hate simply because its from another country or that we got a different accent.

Q, If i posted up some UK HipHop would anyone actually check it?
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Webby05 on October 17, 2006, 01:20:13 PM
Q, If i posted up some UK HipHop would anyone actually check it?

Fuck it ill do it for u;

Klashnekoff - Black Rose http://www.youtube.com/v/ad9n6L9P7_Q

Klashnekoff - Murda http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDGJd1LwQ64

Klashnekoff - Parrowdice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bamCODwU2g

Blak Twang - GCSE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03sNiXbRCN0

Blak Twang - So Rotten http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STXVU4a4h4Q

Roots Manuva - Juggle Tings Proper http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62XDJ0W-IdM

Roots Manuva - Dreamy Days http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsaj98Dhco0

Roots Manuva - Witness the Fitness http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE7zMeIxTMU

Wiley - Wot U Call It? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO2WZYoW9PQ

Roll Deep - When I'm 'Ere http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANQDCGNuO8I

Roll Deep - Heat Up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvlINtXDn3w

So Solid Crew - So Grimey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=danguQ8wUEk

So Solid Crew - Broken Silence http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_EZCAZEKvM

Oxide and Neutrino - Devil's Nightmare http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mum1jnNwmWg

Oxide & Neutrino - Rap Dis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHUEP7jQPN8

Oxide & Neutrino - No Good 4 Me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY8f5mQkrZ0

Kano - Ps & Qs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2VFF4_tto0

Akala - Shakespeare http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gme1YN-qZV8

Just a few things I found on Youtube.com, theres loads of better tracks but I cant be bothered to upload at the mo
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: REGIME MOB 510 on October 17, 2006, 01:28:02 PM
westcoast>>>eastcoast>>>>south>>>>canada>>>>>>>>>>>>english rappers


dudes a clown who started this thread i wish i could diss him like 30 points at once
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on October 17, 2006, 01:34:04 PM
Q, If i posted up some UK HipHop would anyone actually check it?

Fuck it ill do it for u;

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Let me help you out.


http://www.youtube.com/v/ad9n6L9P7_Q
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Boo-Yaa † on October 17, 2006, 04:39:41 PM
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Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Nutty on October 17, 2006, 05:23:53 PM
I'm gonna start d/ling some of those tracks & check out more from the UK.... the artists I have never heard of like Klashnekoff & Akala aren't bad at all, juss have to get used to the accent, lol. Roots Manuva's already known in NZ, think dude's performed here a few times....(is it one dude or a group??)

I forgot about the vid for Black Twang's - So Rotten.....only remember it because dude was wearing the Fijian rugby jersey.....Sucka Free would luv that! lol.
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Cowboy on October 17, 2006, 05:59:17 PM
pfffft London rap sucks yeah it sells good there because a platinum plaque in England is like 100 sales
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Mac 10 † on October 17, 2006, 06:08:22 PM
westcoast>>>eastcoast>>>>south>>>>canada>>>>>>>>>>>>english rappers


dudes a clown who started this thread i wish i could diss him like 30 points at once
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Mac 10 † on October 17, 2006, 06:09:40 PM
Also I'd like to say I've heard that Shakespeare song about 10 times and I'd rather have my nuts chewed off by a rottweiler than ever hear it again!!
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Mac 10 † on October 17, 2006, 06:11:16 PM
record sales.....lyricism.....credibility....



london hands down....

I ain't gonna lie, I was almost in tears of laughter reading that.
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Russell Bell on October 17, 2006, 06:19:51 PM
 ::) I dont know anyone who knows any UK rappers.  I dont either.  Not saying they're not good, just dont know of any.  And I live on the west coast.
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Realbiggsteele on October 17, 2006, 06:44:51 PM
Yeah, alotta the hip hop coming out of the UK is dope! It has a ways to go before it catches up with the US as far as sales go, but klash, blue and Sway are pretty dope. Its not really go help ur argument though homie by coming on a westcoast forum dissing the west. The Uk artist gotta get there hustle game in order though and start tryna get outside of there region, you can only sale so many records in the UK. One thing I dont understand is why so many Uk artist have animosity toward the US? Them dudes are dope, if you make good music, the world will recognize, aint no need for disrespect.
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: LooN3y on October 17, 2006, 07:09:17 PM
how many units the west moved this year????...

oh and dizzee's doin films blud..with an album out this year..


one track


-terra firma-war


tell me its wack


an tell me who hot comin outta westcoast cus u jus chattin bullshit...?..u havent made 1 good point yet...
[/quote


we should ban his 4 life
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da flayboyant 2 on October 17, 2006, 07:10:41 PM
the west coast doesnt have S.A.S. (the REAL S.A.S.) so london>>>>>>>>>>>>>west coast
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: "THE" MoSav on October 17, 2006, 10:24:06 PM
oh no I live in california so I automatically will defend rap coming from my state? i don't give a shit where the music is from but if it sucks, i call it how I see it. and no i have a friend who IMs me on MSN frequently and he wanted me to listen to some UK rap and that shit was garbage. I think I can say that no one in America gives a flying shit about goofy sounding fucks rapping. It sounds corny and lame.

And guess what: Everything the westcoast has done offsets anything your underground scene has done. Eat shit and die.
LOL! so true
and the only thing in LONDON running shit is SAS
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Bones01 on October 18, 2006, 01:00:58 AM
fuk london
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da_notorious_mack on October 18, 2006, 03:15:49 AM
oh no I live in california so I automatically will defend rap coming from my state? i don't give a shit where the music is from but if it sucks, i call it how I see it. and no i have a friend who IMs me on MSN frequently and he wanted me to listen to some UK rap and that shit was garbage. I think I can say that no one in America gives a flying shit about goofy sounding fucks rapping. It sounds corny and lame.

And guess what: Everything the westcoast has done offsets anything your underground scene has done. Eat shit and die.
LOL! so true
and the only thing in LONDON running shit is SAS

LMAO guess you dont know why they left the u.k scene....

and god i didnt know some of u guys would get so emotional....calm down its music....


s.a.s are pretty nice..but too wannabe-yank 4 my liking...

as i said the west hasnt done anything for ages...it cant live on only past sucesses.....


why u think all dem west cats had dat conference.....

then again maybe it just me..who thinks the shiyt sounds tired...before i buy any westcoast album i could write down all the content i expect to hear...an i wouldnt be far off.....the west lacks originality....fact....

Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on October 18, 2006, 06:33:53 AM
The uk has some good artists, skiinnyman, klashnekoff, roots manuva, dizzie rascal, kano , sway ,plan b etc but it seems like everyone in london thinks there a rapper. If u have ever seen channel U  u will know what i mean.
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da_notorious_mack on October 18, 2006, 07:19:46 AM
tune of the day



Baby J ft Yogie-see what i mean

Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da_notorious_mack on October 18, 2006, 07:20:49 AM
oh and these ones.....




Kyza-so sick
Kyza-dey call it murdah
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Paul on October 18, 2006, 07:37:49 AM
your all sayin all these english rappers which i do like sum of them but no1 has said the original from england mike skinner aka the streets. first two albums classic british music. third album sum nice songs too
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Realbiggsteele on October 18, 2006, 07:40:28 AM
Mack, you cant put every one out here in a bubble, what about Psycho Realm, Murrs, Dirty Birdy? I could go on for days. Ive been to London 4 times, and got mad cash out there, (I just love the exchange rate) So there are people that dig westcoast music, maybe not so much in London, nut trust me i bought my escalade with money I got from out there, and Im not disrespecting, I love the scene.
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da_notorious_mack on October 18, 2006, 07:41:41 AM
your all sayin all these english rappers which i do like sum of them but no1 has said the original from england mike skinner aka the streets. first two albums classic british music. third album sum nice songs too

idk..cant really classify him..hes more spoken-word..or something..


he hit-or-miss imo....got a good label roster though...


which brings me to the mitchell bruvas...thought their album was a proper breathe of fresh air...

check this song....

mitchell bruvas-dont try this at home
mitchell bruvas-alone with the t.v
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da_notorious_mack on October 18, 2006, 07:44:02 AM
Mack, you cant put every one out here in a bubble, what about Psycho Realm, Murrs, Dirty Birdy? I could go on for days. Ive been to London 4 times, and got mad cash out there, (I just love the exchange rate) So there are people that dig westcoast music, maybe not so much in London, nut trust me i bought my escalade with money I got from out there, and Im not disrespecting, I love the scene.

mate thats my whole point.....when i say name some1 out west whose bubbling.....its not meant as a challenge..i mean tell me...and ill peep um..i aint a hater im just going by what ive heard...

but im willin to be more openminded than the people on the flip-side of this argument...
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Realbiggsteele on October 18, 2006, 07:49:04 AM
^^Yeah, you cant really go by what these people hype up from over here, because alotta this shit is hype!
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Webby05 on October 18, 2006, 07:57:48 AM
Did u really think you could come on here and say London>>>>>Westcoast without getting some abuse?

Im not on this whole region vs. region thing, I couldnt care less where the artist is from  aslong as the music is good.

I could see where hes coming from saying the UK has more buzz but then Im in the UK so how would I know.

There is people from the UK who are better than the majority of the westcoast but it really doesnt matter because the west has the history
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Mac 10 † on October 18, 2006, 08:01:39 AM
but im willin to be more openminded than the people on the flip-side of this argument...

this is not an argument nor a discussion, the majority of ppl are coming in here to tell u what an idiot u r.
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da_notorious_mack on October 18, 2006, 08:22:52 AM
but im willin to be more openminded than the people on the flip-side of this argument...

this is not an argument nor a discussion, the majority of ppl are coming in here to tell u what an idiot u r.

*yawn*....well im arguin an discussin..u handle the idiot thing
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: rik on October 18, 2006, 08:43:54 AM
Your momma need her ass whooped.
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da_notorious_mack on October 18, 2006, 09:06:33 AM
Your momma need her ass whooped.


your momma needs her rabies shot...
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da flayboyant 2 on October 18, 2006, 09:08:32 AM
Your momma need her ass whooped.


your momma needs her rabies shot...
ohh, them fightin words there
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: BigG on October 18, 2006, 09:41:41 AM
Im from the cali and i have never heard uk rap until i checked out those youtube songs on this thread.  Its pretty good but the thing is that nobody wants to hear an accent like that on there rap songs.
If the uk invented hip hop it would be different. But they didnt and all there doing is the same thing as America except they have an accent.
The UK would only become big if it starts the NEXT big thing in music.  It cant get big with something we have been doing for decades.
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da flayboyant 2 on October 18, 2006, 09:55:28 AM
Im from the cali and i have never heard uk rap until i checked out those youtube songs on this thread.  Its pretty good but the thing is that nobody wants to hear an accent like that on there rap songs.
If the uk invented hip hop it would be different. But they didnt and all there doing is the same thing as America except they have an accent.
The UK would only become big if it starts the NEXT big thing in music.  It cant get big with something we have been doing for decades.
they didnt start rocknroll and look how big uk rock was in the usa
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Buhda on October 18, 2006, 06:23:15 PM
basically the only uk people i have time for are likes of kano and sway because ive followed them since i was at school...
people like ghetto and jme aint much homie, they are okish over grime but we are talking bout real rap here.. yeh your right about west isnt doing much now and listing all these artists that may not drop albums but honestley they have got much more talent then anyone from the uk so comparing isnt an option...
+ the british production is another thing denting their credability, isnt too many big names doing many things to be honest


UK Hip Hop just needs to look to it's Electronica scene for Production, people like The Herbaliser (check out their album Something Wicked This Way Comes which has MF Doom and some wick ass guy called Blade who i thiunk is form the UK and he'd rip most WC rappers out now and a host of other good rappers on it although the first track is on some wierd Jazz shit) Dj Food, Amon Tobin, Coldcut fuck anyone on Ninja Tunes (including Cinematic Orchestra), Fingathing is another group that could do some dope Hip Hop work along with mainstream acts like Liam Howlett and Chemical Brothers.

If you listen to this guy Blade I mentioned above listen to this

http://webjay.org/iteminfo/1463152/c2c6fe9866c1ca56c742a765294ddd8e

Unfortunatly looks like this guy just retired about two weeks ago but even Rza worked with him.

And to the guy who said who other then people in the UK listen to UK stuff, I live in New Zealand the complete other side of the world and people here listen to UK stuff.
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: fadedmofo420 on October 18, 2006, 06:31:48 PM
ja rule >>>>>uk

i dunno bout u niggas but i cant stand that faggy accent.  them uk clowns aint on the west coast's level.  i aint never heard or care about anything comin outta the uk.  i was scrollin through the forum and registered just to comment on this ridiculous thread.  fuck the uk.  yea i said it
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: kingwell on October 18, 2006, 07:44:39 PM
Kano and Sway got that FIRE.
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: BigG on October 18, 2006, 08:42:58 PM
Quote
they didnt start rocknroll and look how big uk rock was in the usa

Thats true but wasnt people like ozzy from England.  I can't tell the difference between uk rock and american rock because alot of white rockers that are from here had parents from Europe and the way they sing you wont even tell the difference.

Im Salvadorian and the other day i went to a pupusa restaruant and this white guy came in and started singing in Spanish real good too and when he came to try to sell us his cds, he didnt speak a word of spanish.  So i think that singing something is alot different then rapping.
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: LAKERS_FAN89 on October 18, 2006, 09:49:57 PM
WESTCOAST>>>>>>>>>london

Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da_notorious_mack on October 19, 2006, 07:12:52 AM
ja rule >>>>>uk

i dunno bout u niggas but i cant stand that faggy accent.  them uk clowns aint on the west coast's level.  i aint never heard or care about anything comin outta the uk.  i was scrollin through the forum and registered just to comment on this ridiculous thread.  fuck the uk.  yea i said it

LMAO...youza clown


Klashnekoff>>>>>>>>Game
Terra Firma>>>>>>>>BWS

FACT!
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Paul on October 19, 2006, 08:29:29 AM
your all sayin all these english rappers which i do like sum of them but no1 has said the original from england mike skinner aka the streets. first two albums classic british music. third album sum nice songs too

idk..cant really classify him..hes more spoken-word..or something..


he hit-or-miss imo....got a good label roster though...


which brings me to the mitchell bruvas...thought their album was a proper breathe of fresh air...

check this song....

mitchell bruvas-dont try this at home
mitchell bruvas-alone with the t.v

mitchells album was soooo  smooth, all production by mike skinner was hot. mitchells have got such a good chemistry, with songs like u mentioned also rush red, dont try this at home, fuck me fuck you and so many others
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da_notorious_mack on October 19, 2006, 08:34:51 AM
is rush red the remix of "blinded by the lights"????.....that beat is ill.....


i like "smart bastard" as well......did skinner produce dat beat as well???...
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Paul on October 19, 2006, 08:38:52 AM
is rush red the remix of "blinded by the lights"????.....that beat is ill.....


i like "smart bastard" as well......did skinner produce dat beat as well???...

yeah he produced the whole album, smart bastard is a great song.

yeah it is the remix, it was the first ever mitchells song which got them there deal with the beats. amazing beat on rush red and blinded by the lights really does set the tone of the track
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da_notorious_mack on October 19, 2006, 08:43:55 AM
yeah i prefer the mike skinner version..but the mitchells do it justice too...


best c.d doing the rounds @ the moments "a little bit darker" bought it last week...an nothin else has got spins since...
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: $Eg2$ on October 19, 2006, 09:16:44 AM
ja rule >>>>>uk

i dunno bout u niggas but i cant stand that faggy accent.  them uk clowns aint on the west coast's level.  i aint never heard or care about anything comin outta the uk.  i was scrollin through the forum and registered just to comment on this ridiculous thread.  fuck the uk.  yea i said it

LMAO...youza clown


Klashnekoff>>>>>>>>Game
Terra Firma>>>>>>>>BWS

FACT!

Yep in the mean streets of london maybe not here doggie.thats a fact
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: fadedmofo420 on October 19, 2006, 02:53:02 PM
ja rule >>>>>uk

i dunno bout u niggas but i cant stand that faggy accent.  them uk clowns aint on the west coast's level.  i aint never heard or care about anything comin outta the uk.  i was scrollin through the forum and registered just to comment on this ridiculous thread.  fuck the uk.  yea i said it

LMAO...youza clown


Klashnekoff>>>>>>>>Game
Terra Firma>>>>>>>>BWS

FACT!

i bet u mad cuz u got that accent.  hahah i wonder if people in da uk have some kind of filter or somethin that makes em not hear the gay accent that they all have.  i'd rather die then hear a 300 bars comin out of u uk fags.  would anybody be willing to listen to 15 mins of tha faggy accent?  of course not.

laffy taffy >>>>>chicken noodle soup>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any song comin out of the uk

(^^^^^they all suck but u get the point)
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Sniper Bone on October 19, 2006, 05:26:27 PM
Im from the uk. And i fucking hate Uk rappers! The fact you can say London > westcoast disgust me!

Fuck every single uk rapper!
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da_notorious_mack on October 20, 2006, 02:17:32 AM
ja rule >>>>>uk

i dunno bout u niggas but i cant stand that faggy accent.  them uk clowns aint on the west coast's level.  i aint never heard or care about anything comin outta the uk.  i was scrollin through the forum and registered just to comment on this ridiculous thread.  fuck the uk.  yea i said it

LMAO...youza clown


Klashnekoff>>>>>>>>Game
Terra Firma>>>>>>>>BWS

FACT!

i bet u mad cuz u got that accent.  hahah i wonder if people in da uk have some kind of filter or somethin that makes em not hear the gay accent that they all have.  i'd rather die then hear a 300 bars comin out of u uk fags.  would anybody be willing to listen to 15 mins of tha faggy accent?  of course not.

laffy taffy >>>>>chicken noodle soup>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any song comin out of the uk

(^^^^^they all suck but u get the point)


SO FOLLOWING UR TRAIN OF THOUGHT......ALL AMERICAN RAPPERS MUST SOUND LIKE CLETUS..THE INBRED REDNECK FROM THE SIMPSONS....CUS HES AMERICAN RIGHT??????


UVE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING THAT WOULD GET PLAY OVER HERE...SO YA JUST CHATTIN AIR...
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da_notorious_mack on October 20, 2006, 02:19:07 AM
Im from the uk. And i fucking hate Uk rappers! The fact you can say London > westcoast disgust me!

Fuck every single uk rapper!

ok mate!...keep crusin the blocks of kent or where the fuck ever in ya 64 impala with the daytons an ya grill gleamin bumpin dat e-40..


imma keep it real an listen to music i can actually relate to...!
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: J Bananas on October 20, 2006, 02:20:15 AM
^you lost
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: da_notorious_mack on October 20, 2006, 02:24:41 AM
nope...woulda got the same response if i said


football(soccer)>>>>>>basketball


but i still woulda been right...


americans cant comprehend anything that isnt going on inside their own boundaries..

which is why u get idjats like george bush in power....

big up to the heads dat watch the music..not the hype...

imma peep the west coast cats..the people dat didnt get all upset recommended.....if some of yall did the same with the peepz ive listed..ya opinion might hold some weight....


as for the accent.....only person with a horrible accent is bruza.....


an hes garbage.....

i
Title: Re: London>>>>>>>>>Westcoast
Post by: Paul on October 20, 2006, 05:10:20 AM
nope...woulda got the same response if i said


football(soccer)>>>>>>basketball


but i still woulda been right...


americans cant comprehend anything that isnt going on inside their own boundaries..

which is why u get idjats like george bush in power....

big up to the heads dat watch the music..not the hype...

imma peep the west coast cats..the people dat didnt get all upset recommended.....if some of yall did the same with the peepz ive listed..ya opinion might hold some weight....


as for the accent.....only person with a horrible accent is bruza.....


an hes garbage.....

i

im with u man, dont know bout london bein better thn the westcoast but i agree with what u hav stated ther