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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: 2euce 7even on May 20, 2011, 09:02:56 AM

Title: Ways To Manipulate
Post by: 2euce 7even on May 20, 2011, 09:02:56 AM
What Are The Best Tricks To Manipulate People?
Title: Re: Ways To Manipulate
Post by: Russell Bell on May 20, 2011, 02:36:47 PM
What Are The Best Tricks To Manipulate People?

Make people feel obligated to do something they normally wouldn't do otherwise.

Like politicians do with race and religion.  "If you aren't on this side, then youre against (insert race or religious group here)".  Now of course they don't say it like that, but thats the trick.
Title: Re: Ways To Manipulate
Post by: Bananas on May 20, 2011, 04:20:42 PM
Use subtle logical fallacies in your rhetoric.
Title: Re: Ways To Manipulate
Post by: Javier on May 20, 2011, 05:06:12 PM
lmao
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Post by: jeromechickenbone on May 20, 2011, 05:23:00 PM
Compliment and subtly mirror their actions and opinions. Play to their ego.

These are best guesses, I don't know from experience. There are lots of psychology books, even free shit on the net. I'd rather teach u to fish ya heard.
Title: Re: Ways To Manipulate
Post by: 2euce 7even on May 24, 2011, 01:00:30 AM
Use subtle logical fallacies in your rhetoric.

what chu mean?
Title: Re: Ways To Manipulate
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on May 24, 2011, 07:34:36 PM
What Are The Best Tricks To Manipulate People?

Are you trying to get a girl to sleep with you?
Title: Re: Ways To Manipulate
Post by: 2euce 7even on May 25, 2011, 07:00:57 AM
What Are The Best Tricks To Manipulate People?

Are you trying to get a girl to sleep with you?

nah homes i mean in general the psychological manipulation itself
Title: Re: Ways To Manipulate
Post by: MUHFUKKA on May 25, 2011, 11:39:48 AM
i dont think youre capable of it
Title: Re: Ways To Manipulate
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 25, 2011, 12:39:46 PM
Use subtle logical fallacies in your rhetoric.

what chu mean?

IE. Politicians use red herrings every time election rolls around. They'll get people to vote for them based on their positions on immigration or gay marriage instead of things they are actually going to do to affect this country.
Title: Re: Ways To Manipulate
Post by: Sikotic™ on May 25, 2011, 01:43:32 PM
Candy
Title: Re: Ways To Manipulate
Post by: bouli77 on May 26, 2011, 04:09:00 AM
human relations are based on manipulation, whether conscious or unconscious. and it starts in the cradle. anticipating somebody's reaction and adapting your approach to deal with that reaction is basic manipulation. when a toddler cries when you deny him/her a request (when (s)he does) that's because (s)he is hurt but also because (s)he has unconsciously developed from experience a sense that crying was the safest way for him/her to get what he wanted. your reaction to it will determine whether he'll change or not that strategy. that's how people become capricious and crybabies basically. we all expect something when it comes to dealing with other humans whether it's appreciation, love, consent, agreement, a discount, sex, sympathy, relief, anything really and manipulation is the medium through which we get what we really crave.

one of my friends had this book from Robert Cialdini, can't remember its name but it basically broke down how salesman and ads appealed to you and used psychological triggers to get you to buy what they were selling.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Cialdini

there's a huge litterature about manipulation, from the most basic concepts to the most elaborate scientific studies.

Title: Re: Ways To Manipulate
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on May 28, 2011, 07:42:28 PM
Compliment and subtly mirror their actions and opinions. Play to their ego.


Then what?  After you've complimented and mirrored their actions and opinions and played up their ego, there has to be a next step, what's the next step?
Title: Re: Ways To Manipulate
Post by: 2euce 7even on May 29, 2011, 03:43:25 AM
human relations are based on manipulation, whether conscious or unconscious. and it starts in the cradle. anticipating somebody's reaction and adapting your approach to deal with that reaction is basic manipulation. when a toddler cries when you deny him/her a request (when (s)he does) that's because (s)he is hurt but also because (s)he has unconsciously developed from experience a sense that crying was the safest way for him/her to get what he wanted. your reaction to it will determine whether he'll change or not that strategy. that's how people become capricious and crybabies basically. we all expect something when it comes to dealing with other humans whether it's appreciation, love, consent, agreement, a discount, sex, sympathy, relief, anything really and manipulation is the medium through which we get what we really crave.

one of my friends had this book from Robert Cialdini, can't remember its name but it basically broke down how salesman and ads appealed to you and used psychological triggers to get you to buy what they were selling.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Cialdini

there's a huge litterature about manipulation, from the most basic concepts to the most elaborate scientific studies.



good post.
Title: Re: Ways To Manipulate
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on May 29, 2011, 06:57:49 AM
Compliment and subtly mirror their actions and opinions. Play to their ego.


Then what?  After you've complimented and mirrored their actions and opinions and played up their ego, there has to be a next step, what's the next step?

Then join their internet crew and record a few rap songs
Title: Re: Ways To Manipulate
Post by: jeromechickenbone on May 30, 2011, 04:31:26 PM
Compliment and subtly mirror their actions and opinions. Play to their ego.


Then what?  After you've complimented and mirrored their actions and opinions and played up their ego, there has to be a next step, what's the next step?

Then you take whatever agenda you have, make them feel like they came up with the idea, and reinforce it as a good one.  Again it has to be very subtle, and can take time to implement.  This is where the artisanship and practice comes into play.

Again, not condoning manipulation.  These are pretty basic psychological tactics and should only be used for good.  Karma can be a bitch.
Title: Re: Ways To Manipulate
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on May 30, 2011, 07:14:06 PM
Compliment and subtly mirror their actions and opinions. Play to their ego.


Then what?  After you've complimented and mirrored their actions and opinions and played up their ego, there has to be a next step, what's the next step?

Then you take whatever agenda you have, make them feel like they came up with the idea, and reinforce it as a good one.  Again it has to be very subtle, and can take time to implement.  This is where the artisanship and practice comes into play.

Again, not condoning manipulation.  These are pretty basic psychological tactics and should only be used for good.  Karma can be a bitch.

that's an interesting one actually
Title: Re: Ways To Manipulate
Post by: 2euce 7even on May 31, 2011, 08:23:29 AM
Compliment and subtly mirror their actions and opinions. Play to their ego.


Then what?  After you've complimented and mirrored their actions and opinions and played up their ego, there has to be a next step, what's the next step?

Then you take whatever agenda you have, make them feel like they came up with the idea, and reinforce it as a good one.  Again it has to be very subtle, and can take time to implement.  This is where the artisanship and practice comes into play.

Again, not condoning manipulation.  These are pretty basic psychological tactics and should only be used for good.  Karma can be a bitch.

that's an interesting one actually
Title: Re: Ways To Manipulate
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on May 31, 2011, 08:50:16 AM
Compliment and subtly mirror their actions and opinions. Play to their ego.


Then what?  After you've complimented and mirrored their actions and opinions and played up their ego, there has to be a next step, what's the next step?

Then you take whatever agenda you have, make them feel like they came up with the idea, and reinforce it as a good one.  Again it has to be very subtle, and can take time to implement.  This is where the artisanship and practice comes into play.

Again, not condoning manipulation.  These are pretty basic psychological tactics and should only be used for good.  Karma can be a bitch.

that's an interesting one actually

So is the person doing this consciously or unconsciously?  Like just something they picked up in childhood?