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Title: Who to Blame for High Gas Prices? hmm.
Post by: Ant on May 01, 2005, 05:38:25 PM
Fox News gives their opinion:

(http://mediamatters.org/static/video/foxnewslive-20050428.jpg)

lol yep. fair and balanced indeed.
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Post by: eS El Duque on May 01, 2005, 06:03:10 PM

(http://mediamatters.org/static/video/foxnewslive-20050428.jpg)


Actually, if that headline was in Canada, it'd be dead on.
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Post by: Low Key on May 01, 2005, 07:10:10 PM
It's probably from the morning show, and they always do shit like that. Then they go off on a funny, yet sad tangent that goes nowhere near the topic. I've seen a few for conservatives too.
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Post by: Matrix Heart on May 01, 2005, 09:53:29 PM
OPEC doesn't need the USA  :) they can sell to China/India instead.
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Post by: Jome on May 02, 2005, 02:14:14 PM
So... how "high" is the prices over there now.. ??
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Post by: Low Key on May 02, 2005, 02:18:54 PM
So... how "high" is the prices over there now.. ??


It's like $2.05 in Minneapolis. When I got my license, it was $1.14. That was 3 1/2 years ago.
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Post by: Rampant on May 02, 2005, 04:19:33 PM
$2.25 for regular here
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Post by: Ðøšïå on May 02, 2005, 08:25:34 PM
$2.35 for 87
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Post by: Matrix Heart on May 03, 2005, 08:26:07 AM
2.75 in San Diego a couple of days ago 2.65 now, thanks Bush  :D for saving me 10 cents per gallon.


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Post by: Suga Foot on May 03, 2005, 09:20:32 AM
Gas in Vancouver is the Highest in Canada, it was $107.5 for a liter the other day.
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Post by: Don Seer on May 03, 2005, 09:24:11 AM
84p for 95ron fuel here... (i was using optimax 98 ron fuel... till now since my car loves it.. but fuck paying 90p...)


84p  is $1.50
90p  is $1.72

BUT.. we buy our fuel in different measures...


the equavilent price a gallon over here is roughly $6 a gallon




i found this breaking it down...

UK
==
Petrol price 85.6p-per-litre ($6.1806/gallon)
Petrol tax* 67.1p-per-litre ($4.7923/gallon)
Actual Cost 19.4p-per-litre ($1.3882/gallon)

US/Florida
==
Petrol price $2.26/gallon (Flagler Co. Florida)
Petrol tax** $0.498/gallon
Actual Cost $1.762/gallon




this page here has a chart comparing world prices >> http://www.see-search.com/business/fuelandpetrolpriceseurope.htm
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Post by: Jome on May 03, 2005, 03:25:16 PM
this page here has a chart comparing world prices >> http://www.see-search.com/business/fuelandpetrolpriceseurope.htm

Yay, Norway is only 2nd most expensive in Europe..  :D 8)
LOL @ U.S., I think I'm gonna start illegal import of gas from U.S. and become a millionaire, it's 3rd world prices on gas.  ;D
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Post by: WestCoasta on May 03, 2005, 08:49:13 PM
i wonder if they'll go down any time soon?
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Post by: J Bananas on May 03, 2005, 11:31:17 PM
Is Bush about to kiss that camel jockey on the lips??? Gross!
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Post by: 411 on May 04, 2005, 01:14:39 AM
its all bush's fault...
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Post by: mauzip on May 04, 2005, 09:05:06 AM
lol @ you americans thinking gas prices in the states are high

LOOK @ HOW HIGH THEY ARE IN THE NETHERLANDS!

good thing i don't have a drivers license :) ::)
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Post by: Don Rizzle on May 04, 2005, 09:33:06 AM
americans have no right to complain cost wise, when they have the cheapest fuel in the developed world and they probaby pay the least tax, there is no room for the government to intervene other abolishing fuel tax which would be dissasterous. when i first started driving 4 years ago oil cost between 15 to 30 dollars a barrel, in the last year its been more like between 40 and 60 dollars a barrel so its innevitable that prices will go up at the pumps but americans are TOO STUPID to understand this. In europe its a different story fuel tax is much larger and haugliers in particular have been leading the protest becauses they are becoming increasingly squeezed by the rising costs, and are complaining their loss of competitiveness against other countries.
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Post by: Don Jacob on May 04, 2005, 10:25:48 AM
^well that's cuz you people drive little rice rockets and minis all over your countries that get 5000 miles to the gallon where as in the united states we drive trucks and and mustang gt's that take up half a tank just to go to the mall........so all in all we probably SPEND as much on gas as you do
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Post by: Jome on May 04, 2005, 02:15:10 PM
^^ Yeah, you really need those 4WD pickups, monster trucks and offroaders to climb the mighty U.S. mountains and to manage the harsh snow conditions in the winter... they're EATING gas, and that's why U.S. is the #1 danger to the global environment.. (Not that I give a shit)
If Bush suddenly started taking the same taxes as most of Europe do, you couldn't afford those monster cars, you'd be forced to think economy..
(Over here you pay more taxes the bigger the engine.. and big engines usually means huge fuel demand...)

I actually like the U.S. car politics, but if every country started using as much gas as U.S., the world be polluted to death in few years.. and there would be no oil left within very few years..
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Post by: Suga Foot on May 04, 2005, 04:52:34 PM
when you buy a car with a big engine in the US, you pay a special gas consumption tax.

I drive a German car, and it's a pig on gas  ;D
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Post by: Woodrow on May 04, 2005, 08:10:35 PM
If Bush suddenly started taking the same taxes as most of Europe do, you couldn't afford those monster cars, you'd be forced to think economy..
(Over here you pay more taxes the bigger the engine.. and big engines usually means huge fuel demand...


HHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Post by: Just Another Sunny day in California on May 04, 2005, 08:31:45 PM
who's to blame?  The oil companies.  European cars eat up gas as much as American cars. 
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Post by: OneHittaSpitta on May 04, 2005, 10:21:30 PM
^well that's cuz you people drive little rice rockets and minis all over your countries that get 5000 miles to the gallon where as in the united states we drive trucks and and mustang gt's that take up half a tank just to go to the mall........so all in all we probably SPEND as much on gas as you do

plus, living in Southern Kali...you rack up miles on a car like nowhere else...shit lol. Not like we have good public transportation. It takes an hour and a half to go 4 miles away on the bus. We have the worst traffic in the country. My last car i put over 60,000 miles on it in 2 yrs/5 months.
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Post by: Don Seer on May 05, 2005, 02:31:03 AM
^ jesus!

i bought my golf in mid oct 03.. means i;ve had it for 1 1/2 years and i havent put 10k on it in that time...

you see another thing is... in this country we rarely travel more than an hour to destinations

my daily commute across town takes me 10 minutes if the roads are clear..

i do lots of short journeys in the week.. and often longer ones at the weekends

who's to blame?  The oil companies.  European cars eat up gas as much as American cars. 

no.. american cars are less efficient.  euro-boxes / japanese small cars (not rice rockets) are massively more fuel economic.

however.. SUVs are becoming more popular.. i even saw a H2 over here yesterday on my way home.. which is rare..

and remember that the big V8 Range Rovers are from here..
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Post by: Jome on May 05, 2005, 06:22:17 AM
HHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I don't know what you found funny, but if you paid $7.5-7.8 for gas like we do in Norway, or more than $8 like they do in Holland, I'm pretty sure you would think again before buying that Monster truck 4WD Turbo... most likely you would die of the shock when you saw the price at the gas station..  ::) :D


European cars eat up gas as much as American cars. 

LOL


when you buy a car with a big engine in the US, you pay a special gas consumption tax.

If the taxes are as ""high"" as their gas prices, it's probably not even noticeable on the total price..

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Post by: Don Seer on May 05, 2005, 06:35:39 AM
we also pay higher road tax for larger engined vehicles.. and people running things like LPG were given discounts
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Post by: Trauma-san on May 05, 2005, 07:01:32 AM
Here's what I always find funny about these type of arguments, and I'll bet nobody on the board thinks like me on this one.


If it's THAT big of a problem; move.  For instance, the guy in L.A. that says how shitty public transportation is... well, dogg, that's THERE.  HERE, we have good transportation.  You can get all the way across the city in a car, in about half an hour on the interstate, or you can take a bus, through downtown, in about an hour.  We live in a populous with well over a million people, which isn't L.A., but why live somewhere where you complain about all that shit?  If you don't like it, just move somewhere where it's better.

On the gas prices; Jome's actually complaining that the prices are TOO low in America.  No; they're too high everywhere else.  In my state, gas is at about 2.19 right now.  Ultimately, you can't complain about the prices of gas wherever you are, because if it was THAT big of a deal, enough to get upset about, just move to somewhere where they're lower.  Of course you'll never do that, you wouldn't have anything to bitch about then. 
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Post by: Matrix Heart on May 05, 2005, 07:36:46 AM
Los Angeles/San Diego has great transportation just too many people with cars and there nothing you can do during rush hour traffic that's just life even if it's starts backing up at 1pm  ;D

Los Angeles even has a Subway which many outsiders don't even know about  ;D

http://www.urbanrail.net/am/lsan/los-angeles-map.gif
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Post by: Ant on May 05, 2005, 11:41:52 AM
Here's what I always find funny about these type of arguments, and I'll bet nobody on the board thinks like me on this one.


If it's THAT big of a problem; move.  For instance, the guy in L.A. that says how shitty public transportation is... well, dogg, that's THERE.  HERE, we have good transportation.  You can get all the way across the city in a car, in about half an hour on the interstate, or you can take a bus, through downtown, in about an hour.  We live in a populous with well over a million people, which isn't L.A., but why live somewhere where you complain about all that shit?  If you don't like it, just move somewhere where it's better.

On the gas prices; Jome's actually complaining that the prices are TOO low in America.  No; they're too high everywhere else.  In my state, gas is at about 2.19 right now.  Ultimately, you can't complain about the prices of gas wherever you are, because if it was THAT big of a deal, enough to get upset about, just move to somewhere where they're lower.  Of course you'll never do that, you wouldn't have anything to bitch about then. 

the government collects taxes in return for service it is supposed to provide to its citizens.  one of those services is stewardship of the american economy.  so as long as anyone is a tax paying citizen of the US they have a right to complain about their governments inability to manage their tax dollars effectively.
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Post by: white Boy on May 05, 2005, 02:52:34 PM
damn overseer, less than 10 miles in a year and a half, im a student, and i work like 4 miles from my house, i put on like 15k miles a year if not more... yea gas is high, but i dont bitch, i got used to it, i like driving so w/e and yea if i bitch i can alsways think that in europe they would rape a sheep for our gas prices so i live with it
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Post by: Jome on May 05, 2005, 02:59:33 PM
On the gas prices; Jome's actually complaining that the prices are TOO low in America.  No; they're too high everywhere else.  In my state, gas is at about 2.19 right now.  Ultimately, you can't complain about the prices of gas wherever you are, because if it was THAT big of a deal, enough to get upset about, just move to somewhere where they're lower.  Of course you'll never do that, you wouldn't have anything to bitch about then. 

Naww, I'll never move from Norway, especially not over money, it's just too good here. 8)
At the end of the day, I'm not satisfied with the gas prices, but I can afford it..
I'd like to see lower prices, but not as low as in U.S. cuz I know what that will lead to eventually.
Many Americans who come to Norway is surprised why it's so clean here, even the cities..

More and more people have more than 1 car in Norway, if the prices was reduced with 350% to match the American level, you'd have a RUSH of people buying not only 2 or 3, but maybe up to 4 cars, and nobody would take the bus/public transportation, and bikes would be a blast from the past.
If I could import cars from U.S. without paying Norwegian taxes/import fees, I'd probably buy 2-3 cars for myself at once..

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Post by: Woodrow on May 05, 2005, 06:26:00 PM
HHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I don't know what you found funny, but if you paid $7.5-7.8 for gas like we do in Norway, or more than $8 like they do in Holland, I'm pretty sure you would think again before buying that Monster truck 4WD Turbo... most likely you would die of the shock when you saw the price at the gas station..  ::) :D
I find it funny that I DON'T pay 7.50 a gallon and I CAN buy a monster truck.
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Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on May 26, 2005, 01:07:59 PM



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holding hands like fags and he's telling bush : i wanna suck your cock
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Post by: Suga Foot on May 26, 2005, 01:21:49 PM
Seer, you are crazy, why do you own a car if you're not gonna use it?   :D

I've had my car for 3 months, and I've already put 8k on it lol.
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Post by: Suffice on May 26, 2005, 04:25:44 PM
84p for 95ron fuel here... (i was using optimax 98 ron fuel... till now since my car loves it.. but fuck paying 90p...)


84p  is $1.50
90p  is $1.72

BUT.. we buy our fuel in different measures...


the equavilent price a gallon over here is roughly $6 a gallon




i found this breaking it down...

UK
==
Petrol price 85.6p-per-litre ($6.1806/gallon)
Petrol tax* 67.1p-per-litre ($4.7923/gallon)
Actual Cost 19.4p-per-litre ($1.3882/gallon)

US/Florida
==
Petrol price $2.26/gallon (Flagler Co. Florida)
Petrol tax** $0.498/gallon
Actual Cost $1.762/gallon




this page here has a chart comparing world prices >> http://www.see-search.com/business/fuelandpetrolpriceseurope.htm
damn, you guys are getting fucked by BP
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Post by: ecrazy on May 26, 2005, 04:39:27 PM
damn overseer, less than 10 miles in a year and a half, im a student, and i work like 4 miles from my house, i put on like 15k miles a year if not more... yea gas is high, but i dont bitch, i got used to it, i like driving so w/e and yea if i bitch i can alsways think that in europe they would rape a sheep for our gas prices so i live with it
Yea, True..I Average about 250 miles a week in my car, going to school and to work, and taking my mom or brother or girlfriend to places
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Post by: shamihundal on May 30, 2005, 01:23:18 PM
who's to blame?  The oil companies.  European cars eat up gas as much as American cars. 

I got me a honda.
And oh yeah fuck Bush. Hes to blame.
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Post by: Macaframa on June 02, 2005, 09:52:50 PM
Me!
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Post by: J Bananas on June 03, 2005, 10:42:21 AM
If prices in America get over 5 dollars I'm a rob a gas station and hook yall up. it's really easy because most of the underground tanks arent locked at all. :)
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Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on June 03, 2005, 05:03:49 PM
ppl need to buy Hybrid cars :D
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Post by: J Bananas on June 03, 2005, 07:16:27 PM
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ppl need to buy Hybrid cars
u need to be sodomized with a mag light :D
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Post by: OneHittaSpitta on June 04, 2005, 11:23:58 AM
Los Angeles/San Diego has great transportation just too many people with cars and there nothing you can do during rush hour traffic that's just life even if it's starts backing up at 1pm  ;D

Los Angeles even has a Subway which many outsiders don't even know about  ;D

http://www.urbanrail.net/am/lsan/los-angeles-map.gif


its well known we have some of the worst public transportation in the country man. Its pretty obvious, people dont all buy cars in Southern California just cus they like to drive and spend money. They buy them, cus they have to. Like i said, i used to go to school less then 3 miles from my house. It was about a 5-10 minute drive. On the City Limo tho, shit was like 1/12 hrs with transfers n shit.


btw, "Whos to blame?" Those fuckin soccer moms who dont even work and just spend their husbands money. They drive around ALL day in a fuckin suburban, with nowhere to go...talking on their cell phone...wasting gas....stupid bitches. lol
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Post by: OneHittaSpitta on June 04, 2005, 11:25:36 AM
Here's what I always find funny about these type of arguments, and I'll bet nobody on the board thinks like me on this one.


If it's THAT big of a problem; move.  For instance, the guy in L.A. that says how shitty public transportation is... well, dogg, that's THERE.  HERE, we have good transportation.  You can get all the way across the city in a car, in about half an hour on the interstate, or you can take a bus, through downtown, in about an hour.  We live in a populous with well over a million people, which isn't L.A., but why live somewhere where you complain about all that shit?  If you don't like it, just move somewhere where it's better.



cus u live in the fuckin country Hillbilly Jim.  ;)