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http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/newsPage.cgi?news07840m01
MAYER MAJOR AS Q4 BATTLE BEGINS IN EARNEST
Columbia Star in Lead with Norah, Casting Crowns, 50 Cent, Bocelli Up Next
November 18, 2009
Who says John Mayer can’t get stoned and have a #1 album on next Tuesday’s HITS Top 50 Album sales chart?
Not us.
The fourth quarter sprint to the end of the first decade of the 21st century (and what a decade it was) begins in earnest this week and, for battered music retailers, it couldn’t come a moment to soon.
Columbia’s singer/songwriter, full-time Tweeter and tabloid lothario will bow on top next week as his Battle Studies rustles up 275-300k in sales, almost twice as much as his nearest pursuer, according to one-day reports from those hearty few still selling shiny, round discs in their stores instead of flat screen TVs.
Blue Note chanteuse Norah Jones’ The Fall is the next-highest debut at 150-160k, putting her in a four-way logjam with Aftermath/Interscope rapper 50 Cent’s Before I Self-Destruct (whoops, too late), also in its first week, Provident/Reunion Christian act Casting Crowns and Decca’s Andrea Bocelli, all in the 140-150k range.
Island/IDJ teen phenom Justin Bieber appears to be poised to debut in the 110-120k neighborhood, a pleasant surprise which L.A. Reid and company have to be delighted with.
19/Jive/JLG American Idol winner Kris Allen’s debut should be between 75-80k, which will make for an interesting comparison when runner-up Adam Lambert’s album drops on Nov. 23.
DGC/Interscope rock gods Them Crooked Vultures, featuring Queens of the Stone Age’s Josh Homme, Foo Fighters’ Dave Grohl and Led Zep’s John Paul Jones, are on target for a total of 70-75k for their bracing, neo-psychedelic blooze-metal mash-up.
J/RMG X Factor winner Leona Lewis’ sophomore album, Echo, should do between 60-65k.
Paul McCartney’s Hear Music/Concord live DVD/CD, Good Evening New York City, is in the 50-55k area, while Interscope act OneRepublic’s Waking Up will arise with 40-45k and Janet Jackson’s A&M greatest hits album looks on track for 35-40k.
The market was up 3% vs. last week, down 21% vs. same week last year and still down 13% year to date. Is it 2010 yet?
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Excuse nr 1:
"Interscope didnt do enough promoting", just like before.
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Wale sold 28k :-X
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Wale sold 28k :-X
ive NEVER in my life seen a dude who aint even got a fanbase like that, bein pushed down our throat so much!!!
that dude is EVERWHERE..and dude aint even more talked about than Nipsey Hussle...wtf..
dude got a strong team pushing him thats 4 sure
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Wale sold 28k :-X
ive NEVER in my life seen a dude who aint even got a fanbase like that, bein pushed down our throat so much!!!
that dude is EVERWHERE..and dude aint even more talked about than Nipsey Hussle...wtf..
dude got a strong team pushing him thats 4 sure
that's bcuz Wale is an alternative-hip hop artist. people from all sides of the isle just dont cling to him like they would of a 50 cent or a Maino. u ask me, DC should've pushed Tabi Bonney harder than Wale. Wale is cool but it ain't like niggaz ridin' around playin' Wale (besides Pretty Girls w/Gucci). DC needs a gangsta rapper (so to say) with some GoGo influence on the instrumentals, then niggaz can get behind him all the way. I like Wale alot and I support the nigga bcuz he from the DMV, but there's no pain when you hear Wale, only crying and intelligent introspect on shit. bottom line is dude just does too much to be a lil' more classier than the next artist, it'd be cool if he was thuggin' and comin' wit some hard ass beats... i guess that's what we're waiting for from BMore, now when u hear the underground Baltimore scene then you'll see what real hip hop is... believe dat. but cheers for Wale, he shouldn't be kicked outta the limelight for this, put him on some hosting shit for promo on the tv/radio and build up his career that way. it aint ovr yet.
Wale >>> Talib, Consequence (since they're in that category)
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Wale >>> Talib (since they're in that category)
Man, I'll never understand how you listen to music.
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So is this just from the itunes sales or all up? That's realll bad if true
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Wale >>> Talib (since they're in that category)
Man, I'll never understand how you listen to music.
lol... i never liked Talib, his shit always sounded gay to me. That BlackStar album was tainted by him and i'd rather listen to an album of his instrumentals... he should just do spoken word over tight beats, his flow is :P
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Wale sold 28k :-X
ive NEVER in my life seen a dude who aint even got a fanbase like that, bein pushed down our throat so much!!!
that dude is EVERWHERE..and dude aint even more talked about than Nipsey Hussle...wtf..
he def is. not many people outside of cali know who nipsey is. wale's mixtape game and alliances helped him get word of mouth... they waited too long to put out the album tho
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Wale sold 28k :-X
ive NEVER in my life seen a dude who aint even got a fanbase like that, bein pushed down our throat so much!!!
that dude is EVERWHERE..and dude aint even more talked about than Nipsey Hussle...wtf..
he def is. not many people outside of cali know who nipsey is. wale's mixtape game and alliances helped him get word of mouth... they waited too long to put out the album tho
naw, everybody know who Nipsey is, and if they don't now they won't have a hard time remembering who he is once he's out there. Nipsey is too sick and he's just right for an MC/Rapper. alotta ppl fuck wit Nipsey, i just hope he doesn't drown himself in the WestCoast way of music (the same choruses and beats and the same exact subject matter and cliche' everything). The West and Hip Hop could use a breath of fresh air when it comes to music. BAGNN3 was pretty fresh for what he was tryna put out there.
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Wale >>> Talib (since they're in that category)
Man, I'll never understand how you listen to music.
lol... i never liked Talib, his shit always sounded gay to me. That BlackStar album was tainted by him and i'd rather listen to an album of his instrumentals... he should just do spoken word over tight beats, his flow is :P
Talib's flow is great. Next you'll tell me Train Of Thought is a wack album.
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Wale >>> Talib (since they're in that category)
Man, I'll never understand how you listen to music.
lol... i never liked Talib, his shit always sounded gay to me. That BlackStar album was tainted by him and i'd rather listen to an album of his instrumentals... he should just do spoken word over tight beats, his flow is :P
Talib's flow is great. Next you'll tell me Train Of Thought is a wack album.
i wont tell u shit but suck my dick. stop tryna bring u n2 everything, ur not a baby anymore grow up
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Wale sold 28k :-X
ive NEVER in my life seen a dude who aint even got a fanbase like that, bein pushed down our throat so much!!!
that dude is EVERWHERE..and dude aint even more talked about than Nipsey Hussle...wtf..
he def is. not many people outside of cali know who nipsey is. wale's mixtape game and alliances helped him get word of mouth... they waited too long to put out the album tho
i think i am the only person in New York who knows about Nipsey & i wouldn't if it wasn't for this board.
he's a cali guy, stictly.
Wale >>> Talib (since they're in that category)
Man, I'll never understand how you listen to music.
lol... i never liked Talib, his shit always sounded gay to me. That BlackStar album was tainted by him and i'd rather listen to an album of his instrumentals... he should just do spoken word over tight beats, his flow is :P
Talib's flow is great. Next you'll tell me Train Of Thought is a wack album.
stop tryna bring u n2 everything, ur not a baby anymore grow up
well, that's ironic. :laugh:
anyway, about 50; Baby By Me was his worst single out of his four albums.
but i give him credit for not going all out with bitch shit, having a billion features, etc, to sell.
but like it's been KNOWN, sales are beyond irrelevant.
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Wale >>> Talib (since they're in that category)
Man, I'll never understand how you listen to music.
lol... i never liked Talib, his shit always sounded gay to me. That BlackStar album was tainted by him and i'd rather listen to an album of his instrumentals... he should just do spoken word over tight beats, his flow is :P
Talib's flow is great. Next you'll tell me Train Of Thought is a wack album.
i wont tell u shit but suck my dick. stop tryna bring u n2 everything, ur not a baby anymore grow up
Yer because that was a real grown up response. Your logic of because music is old, you can't listen to it is so retarded as outlined in that DJ Honda thread. And also, I have barely quoted on you recently because I'm fed up with, ironically your childish responses.
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Isnt this digital sales only?In which case 140k digital is pretty damn good.
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Isnt this digital sales only?In which case 140k digital is pretty damn good.
That's what I thought as well
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no way it's only digital? They tend to make these predictions early (album in stores yesterday?) but end up very accurate. Wow at 150K. That's awful for him. He'll have to CRAWL to a Gold plaque (not counting International sales)
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Isnt this digital sales only?In which case 140k digital is pretty damn good.
That's what I thought as well
How can one PROJECT digital sales? Use ur brains
lolno way it's only digital? They tend to make these predictions early (album in stores yesterday?) but end up very accurate. Wow at 150K. That's awful for him. He'll have to CRAWL to a Gold plaque (not counting International sales)
exactly
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Lol, 50's gonna be on the radio dissing his own sales soon.
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I feel no sympathy for 50 or any other artists bragging or hyping sales and deliver a brick. If that is the 1st week projected then karma is a ________________.
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should have retired when Kanye served him. ::)
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they makepredictions on retail sales, his itunes sales should be pretty impressive, knowing that itwill count for 1.5 weeks that its out
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I don't feel sorry for him even though it's a dope album. His ego too large for me to feel sorry
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Why would anyone feel sorry for a multi millionaire who made something out of nothing?
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he already said in another interview that he doesn't even know what to expect sales-wise so I doubt he's gonna say much about doing the low numbers, but maybe a few rappers will get dissed lol
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Game sold the same amount on LAX "Come on Game you'll never be my equal" hahahah well looks like 50's line is gonna bounce back to bite him
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Game sold the same amount on LAX "Come on Game you'll never be my equal" hahahah well looks like 50's line is gonna bounce back to bite him
L.A.X. actually sold like 200K first week lol
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the masses got tired of 50 after 2005... G Unit got a hell of a run from 2002 -2005 , obviously they made a huge amount of money but in the meantime they oversaturated the music market, .... the poor quality of 50 music and his constant failures at trying to recreate a In Da Club or Candy shop part 2 sure did not help ... he should have released this album months ago (even if his singles were not doing shit) , pushbacks will decrease your sales 99% of the time because if the public did not care about your album months ago , they will care a lot less when it really drops
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Push backs are the death of hip hop.How record executives think to themself hey this song is huge,lets delay the album 6 months then release when the artist buzz is gone!What a great idea!
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Push backs are the death of hip hop.How record executives think to themself hey this song is huge,lets delay the album 6 months then release when the artist buzz is gone!What a great idea!
Lol yup, they fucked up Mainos album heavy by letting the Hi Hater buzz die down
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50 ........50 ........50 his era is gone.... after greates hits he prob leave aftermath/interscope
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Game sold the same amount on LAX "Come on Game you'll never be my equal" hahahah well looks like 50's line is gonna bounce back to bite him
Game sold 280K 1st week
hahahah and this is the same group who said Game wasnt sellin?
Buck - gone and his 2nd album didnt do well
Banks - 2nd album was a flop
Yayo - aint had an album out since 2005
G-Unit as a group - flopped hella hard with their group album
and now 50
so FOH curtis
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honestly, i didn't expect that interscope would drop it this year
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Isnt this digital sales only?In which case 140k digital is pretty damn good.
it was released digitally last week, this week its out on CD ;)
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I can't listen to two or three songs of that album without needing a rest from hearing 50's flow. It has worsened over the years, and just sounds sloppy and amateurish. What makes it even worse is when he tries to sing, but if he can't talk properly, how the hell can he expect to sing? To me, it sounds like a rushed album. It flopped because the quality of the music is poor.
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lets wait the final numbers, but i dont expect much
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"Deeper Than Rap" sold 158K first week.
Just saying, IF 50 don't beat that, OUCH!!!
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lol. I didn't even know he had an album coming.
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great numbers... 50 is #1
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i am actually not surprised about the numbers, the album got leaked a month before the realease date so they moved up the album.. the leak hurt his album sales but his single is gonna move some album numbers..
I will not be surprised if Snoops album sells 50000k first week, nobody want to buy albums anymore they rather want singles.
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i am actually not surprised about the numbers, the album got leaked a month before the realease date so they moved up the album.. the leak hurt his album sales but his single is gonna move some album numbers..
I will not be surprised if Snoops album sells 50000k first week, nobody want to buy albums anymore they rather want singles.
yeah cuz 50s album is the 1st album in history to leak a month before it drops...thats so rare...
FOH
50s MULTIPLE singles flopped tho (even the Dre produced songs), movies flopped, video games and all that
his time is just over..people are tired of dude!!!
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i am actually not surprised about the numbers, the album got leaked a month before the realease date so they moved up the album.. the leak hurt his album sales but his single is gonna move some album numbers..
I will not be surprised if Snoops album sells 50000k first week, nobody want to buy albums anymore they rather want singles.
you mean 50k
I think the issue is that the singles suck now
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i am actually not surprised about the numbers, the album got leaked a month before the realease date so they moved up the album.. the leak hurt his album sales but his single is gonna move some album numbers..
I will not be surprised if Snoops album sells 50000k first week, nobody want to buy albums anymore they rather want singles.
yeah cuz 50s album is the 1st album in history to leak a month before it drops...thats so rare...
FOH
50s MULTIPLE singles flopped tho (even the Dre produced songs), movies flopped, video games and all that
his time is just over..people are tired of dude!!!
its not rare, but you have the answer why the album gonna flop. The same thing will happen with the snoop album also
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"Deeper Than Rap" sold 158K first week.
Just saying, IF 50 don't beat that, OUCH!!!
Lol damn Ross would have a field day
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This true?! IF 50 sells this much, dude fully flopped!! he should be hitting jay-z numbers with the amount of money and work he put into this album pllus the amount they always spend on promoting a 50 album. Would be pretty hilarious though if it happens. Finally he gets the numbers he deserves for all the shitty joints he put out since GRODT. Though each album he has released since GRODT has had a few bangers, overall they are all weak. Put an album together between all his followups to GRODT and u would have a dope follow up.
lmao@140k though, if thats true, looks like him and game might be doing similar numbers for there coming albums.
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I think all of his material has been rather consistent since Get Rich. There's always been two or three poor tracks on his albums. The rest have ranged from average to dope. This last album is no exception. The major difference is the atmosphere of the album is unlike his past releases. It's raw unlike his past efforts which were more polished especially Curtis (which is slept on).
I'm still convinced people love to hate 50. He makes good music and is good for the genre.
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But he released his album on Itunes last week (the 9th) and so for the 1st time, they decided to put the itunes sales together with the actual album sales.
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we were waiting for the Game groupies to jump on it. ;)
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we were waiting for the Game groupies to jump on it. ;)
haha
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I will not be surprised if Snoops album sells 50000k first week, nobody want to buy albums anymore they rather want singles.
Nobody wants to buy albums because nobody is making albums. They are making 1 or 2 hit singles that make good ring tones and putting 10-15 song worth of garbage. Why bother?
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I think all of his material has been rather consistent since Get Rich.
fuck outta here, GRODT was a classic. Every album since has declined in quality. His flow is garbage now.
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I think all of his material has been rather consistent since Get Rich.
fuck outta here, GRODT was a classic. Every album since has declined in quality. His flow is garbage now.
Get Rich wasn't a classic. Everybody co-signs that bcuz it's 50's best SELLING album but it wasn't as good as his future releases. Take the tracks off the GRODT Sdtrk and Tha Massacre ("best of" so to say) and it shits all over GRODT
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I think all of his material has been rather consistent since Get Rich.
fuck outta here, GRODT was a classic. Every album since has declined in quality. His flow is garbage now.
Get Rich wasn't a classic. Everybody co-signs that bcuz it's 50's best SELLING album but it wasn't as good as his future releases. Take the tracks off the GRODT Sdtrk and Tha Massacre ("best of" so to say) and it shits all over GRODT
GET RICH or die tryin the album was real bangin album........
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if you took the best songs from his last three CDs, you couldn't formulate a tracklist as good as Get Rich or Die Tryin'.
Wanksta
What Up Gantsta
Patiently Waiting
Many Men
In Da Club
High All The Time
Heat
If I Can't
Back Down
P.I.M.P.
21 Questions
Don't Push Me
i was going into making that list just naming a few songs, but i couldn't cut any of these songs out; all are mad dope.
GRODT is hands down his best work lyrically (& he isn't all that lyrical), production-wise & hook-wise.
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tha massacre
in my hood
im supposed to die tonight
candy shop (fuck watchu gotta say)
get in my car
ski mask way
baltimore love thing
ryder music
gunz come out
hate it or love it remix
get rich soundtrack
hustler's ambition
what if
window shopper (best memorable line since the "in da club" hook that i can think of"
i dont know officer
talk about me
when it rains it pours (yessir)
best friend (i liked this song)
i'll whip yo head boy (would've been a bomb ass bonus)
those tracks are pretty much more memorable than the GRODT album. i liked that album when it first came out but listening to 50's newer shit gave me a change of judgement.
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if you took the best songs from his last three CDs, you couldn't formulate a tracklist as good as Get Rich or Die Tryin'.
Wanksta
What Up Gantsta
Patiently Waiting
Many Men
In Da Club
High All The Time
Heat
If I Can't
Back Down
P.I.M.P.
21 Questions
Don't Push Me
i was going into making that list just naming a few songs, but i couldn't cut any of these songs out; all are mad dope.
GRODT is hands down his best work lyrically (& he isn't all that lyrical), production-wise & hook-wise.
Power of the dollar >>> GRODT
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50 has been consistent since Get Rich. That is to say all of his albums post Get Rich or Die Trying have been on par with each other. Each one goes for a different sound but they are no better or worse than the other. That is to say the majority of the tracks on each album range from average to dope. Each album has a couple of tracks I don't enjoy (candy shop, amusement park.)
The biggest critique of his albums I have post Get Rich has been the lack of a consistent atmosphere for his albums. Both The Massacre and especially Curtis suffer from hardcore sounding tracks followed by pop acts (candy shop & amusement park). Now we have Before I self Destruct which is the most consistent in atmosphere since Get Rich or Die Trying. It's a New York sound and very much a modern boom-bap album.
I do consider Get Rich or Die Trying a classic album. I'm not someone who thinks you have to be the most lyrical bombarding cat to be considered classic. There are plenty of ways to tell a story and 50 successfully told his story on Get Rich. The atmosphere matched the tracks and the content.
I also think Curtis was a poor album (as in it did not feel like an album) but was not bad (I enjoy the majority of the tracks.) In fact the only two tracks I don't enjoy are Fully Loaded Clip and Amusement Park. Tracks like Peep Show & Fire are not your typical 50 sound but I thought they were dope. They did not help the flow of the album but they were still good tracks.
For another artist that has stepped outside of his sound and I fully enjoy is Jay-Z's Ghetto Techno. Jay's version of techno is dope. His next album should be more variation like that.
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POSITION OF POWER
RYDER MUZIC
21 QUESTIONS
IM SUPPOSE TO DIE TONIGHT
BALTIMORE LOVE
STRONG ENOUGH
DO YOU THINK ABOUT ME
FAVS
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damn if this is true..50's done for real
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if you took the best songs from his last three CDs, you couldn't formulate a tracklist as good as Get Rich or Die Tryin'.
Wanksta
What Up Gantsta
Patiently Waiting
Many Men
In Da Club
High All The Time
Heat
If I Can't
Back Down
P.I.M.P.
21 Questions
Don't Push Me
i was going into making that list just naming a few songs, but i couldn't cut any of these songs out; all are mad dope.
GRODT is hands down his best work lyrically (& he isn't all that lyrical), production-wise & hook-wise.
Power of the dollar >>> GRODT
i might be able to agree with that, but i still preder GRODT to bump.
but some tracks on POTD are just fuckin' insane.
regardless, nothing on the Massacre, Curtis or BISD come close to either POTD or GRODT.
all the songs you guys have been naming are like 3.5-4/5 songs; where as his first two albums are filled with 4.5-5/5 tracks.
50's been on a stready decline, it's obvious; although BISD was a nice improvement from Curtis for me. 8)
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get rich or die trying is def a classic 8) it's set a tone for many albums to come
but Massacre is my personal favorite... the variety and mix of songs is great on that album
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the world is retarded. people need to buy hard copies of shit. this digital crap is ruining music
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why would someone waste money on a whack album?
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the world is retarded. people need to buy hard copies of shit. this digital crap is ruining music
not this album
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GRODT is not a classic. There's several skippable tracks on there. Had several great joints on it, but it's not a classic.
And seriously, how anybody can say 50 improved since GRODT I have no idea. But it's completely wrong, lol.
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Was watching that Massacre dvd at my homies last night while on the piss, that shit's dope how he got a video for every track on it, I wanna see more artists do that
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GRODT is not a classic.
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For another artist that has stepped outside of his sound and I fully enjoy is Jay-Z's Ghetto Techno. Jay's version of techno is dope. His next album should be more variation like that.
hahahahah do u even know what techno is? obviously not and neither does jay-z. wow i dunno how i missed this song cause i like to think i was a fan of jay, i think its awful. anyway im not hating on the song but im just saying that is NOT techno. at all. 0%
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the world is retarded. people need to buy hard copies of shit. this digital crap is ruining music
old dude spotted ;D
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get rich or die trying is def a classic 8) it's set a tone for many albums to come
but Massacre is my personal favorite... the variety and mix of songs is great on that album
i agree get rich or die trying is a classic for an east coast album yes but the massacre is also dope :)
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candy shop (fuck watchu gotta say)
best friend (i liked this song)
This nigga sleeps with men.
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Lol Candy Shop go hard in a club though, that Storch beat is a monster
In a recent interview with Funkmaster Flex on New York Hot 97, 50 Cent talked about his latest album, Before I Self Destruct, and who is to blame for the low projection sales.
"With the actual outcome of the project, once the record leaks from the international plant, what more can I do," said Fifty.
As reported earlier, Before I Self Destruct is projected to only sell between 150,000 and 160,000 units by next week, the lowest of any of his previous debuts. Even with the exclusive early release of the album via iTunes, which was initiated to decrease the number of internet leaks, the album only sold 46,000 downloads during the one week window, according to hitsdailydouble.com.
"I held the record long enough to get it to them, to mix and master it and for them to ship it and then it leaks from the plant internationally, I'm like come on, then that's it. They lost the ball. You know what I mean, if the numbers look funny to me, it's they fault," he continued.
Before I Self Destruct is Fifty's fourth and final studio album under Interscope, and features DJ Premier, Dr. Dre and Timbaland, annd appearances by Eminem, Lloyd Banks, Ne-Yo and R. Kelly.
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Even if it hadn't leaked, I doubt he would have sold that much better. While I can appreciate that he's going off of the pop tip a little, I'm 50'd out at this point. There's a lot better rappers out there who deserve my attention, who aren't millionaires.
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GRODT = Good album, not classic.
Massacre = Good album, not classic.
GRODT Soundtrack = Good album, not classic.
Curtis = Totally wack and useless on all accounts.
BISD = Better than Curtis, but still a borefest.
50 is done. I agree with whoever said he oversaturated the market back in 2003-2005. He went for it 100% and got incredibly rich. Now everybody, except a few white teenage girls, are sick of him.
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lol
candy shop (fuck watchu gotta say)
best friend (i liked this song)
This nigga sleeps with men.
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I guess I am in the minority when I say this album is banging. Nice production, and 50 was consistent throughout on it. Has heavy replay value for me.
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yeah i think you are cuz this is some of the worst muzik ever put together EVER
I guess I am in the minority when I say this album is banging. Nice production, and 50 was consistent throughout on it. Has heavy replay value for me.
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I guess I am in the minority when I say this album is banging. Nice production, and 50 was consistent throughout on it. Has heavy replay value for me.
Some of the tracks have replay value. Tracks for me being The Invitation, Death To My Enemies, Psycho, Crime Wave, Strong Enough and Could've Been You. But some are either average and some just sound so cheap and nasty. Even Havoc let me down on here with his beat and I'm a huge fan. If Get Up and They Burn Me made it on here instead of Get It Hot and Baby By Me, it would be a decent album, otherwise it's just a average album. Still better than Curtis.
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I guess I am in the minority when I say this album is banging. Nice production, and 50 was consistent throughout on it. Has heavy replay value for me.
Some of the tracks have replay value. Tracks for me being The Invitation, Death To My Enemies, Psycho, Crime Wave, Strong Enough and Could've Been You. But some are either average and some just sound so cheap and nasty. Even Havoc let me down on here with his beat and I'm a huge fan. If Get Up and They Burn Me made it on here instead of Get It Hot and Baby By Me, it would be a decent album, otherwise it's just a average album. Still better than Curtis.
Yeah I have Strong Enough on repeat right now.
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I guess I am in the minority when I say this album is banging. Nice production, and 50 was consistent throughout on it. Has heavy replay value for me.
Some of the tracks have replay value. Tracks for me being The Invitation, Death To My Enemies, Psycho, Crime Wave, Strong Enough and Could've Been You. But some are either average and some just sound so cheap and nasty. Even Havoc let me down on here with his beat and I'm a huge fan. If Get Up and They Burn Me made it on here instead of Get It Hot and Baby By Me, it would be a decent album, otherwise it's just a average album. Still better than Curtis.
Yeah I have Strong Enough on repeat right now.
I'm with you homie, it aint album of the year but it's a real New York grimey sounding album,some of the beats are cheap but Fif's spitting so it's all good
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I guess I am in the minority when I say this album is banging. Nice production, and 50 was consistent throughout on it. Has heavy replay value for me.
Some of the tracks have replay value. Tracks for me being The Invitation, Death To My Enemies, Psycho, Crime Wave, Strong Enough and Could've Been You. But some are either average and some just sound so cheap and nasty. Even Havoc let me down on here with his beat and I'm a huge fan. If Get Up and They Burn Me made it on here instead of Get It Hot and Baby By Me, it would be a decent album, otherwise it's just a average album. Still better than Curtis.
Yeah I have Strong Enough on repeat right now.
I'm with you homie, it aint album of the year but it's a real New York grimey sounding album,some of the beats are cheap but Fif's spitting so it's all good
U took the words right out of my mouth. He makes some of the most gutter, grimey NY hip hop out there. Massacre had a few cuts, Curtis only had one or 2 but this album has some bangers on it. I listen to Fif for banging beats and witty punchlines. Not expecting some Rakim type shit from him, because that ain't his lane. Same with Maino. He more than held his own on this album.
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The final numbers are in. 157k.
http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi
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I guess I am in the minority when I say this album is banging. Nice production, and 50 was consistent throughout on it. Has heavy replay value for me.
Some of the tracks have replay value. Tracks for me being The Invitation, Death To My Enemies, Psycho, Crime Wave, Strong Enough and Could've Been You. But some are either average and some just sound so cheap and nasty. Even Havoc let me down on here with his beat and I'm a huge fan. If Get Up and They Burn Me made it on here instead of Get It Hot and Baby By Me, it would be a decent album, otherwise it's just a average album. Still better than Curtis.
Yeah I have Strong Enough on repeat right now.
I'm with you homie, it aint album of the year but it's a real New York grimey sounding album,some of the beats are cheap but Fif's spitting so it's all good
U took the words right out of my mouth. He makes some of the most gutter, grimey NY hip hop out there. Massacre had a few cuts, Curtis only had one or 2 but this album has some bangers on it. I listen to Fif for banging beats and witty punchlines. Not expecting some Rakim type shit from him, because that ain't his lane. Same with Maino. He more than held his own on this album.
No doubt no doubt. He coulda worked on the beats on this one but lyrically he was on point. Word to Maino, that album was dope, whole story going on. Jigga makes some space age bullshit and tries claiming he was influenced by New York? Fuck outta here, NYC is grimey boom bap
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I guess I am in the minority when I say this album is banging. Nice production, and 50 was consistent throughout on it. Has heavy replay value for me.
i'm bumpin' it. 8)
people are just afriad to admit they like 50 because they feel it's a sin or something lol.
everybody jumps on this "GRODT" was close, but not a classic.
you can't name me a classic after 2002 anyway, you guys are stuck in the past.
50 dropped heat. 8)
plus, this is a West (Game) Coast forum.
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The final numbers are in. 157k.
http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi
Someone fucked up big tyme, or its just music industry is falling apart lol
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So did "Deeper Than Rap" outsell "BISD" first week?
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So did "Deeper Than Rap" outsell "BISD" first week?
Deeper Than Rap debuted #1 on Billboard Chart selling 158,000 copies its first week,
LOL, hip hop dead?
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BP3 shits on that mixtape called BISD
As far as the numbers:
http://www.youtube.com/v/fciYuGt7TVk&hl=en_GB&fs=1&
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BP3 shits on that mixtape called BISD
As far as the numbers:
http://www.youtube.com/v/fciYuGt7TVk&hl=en_GB&fs=1&
Its all trash comparing it to Relapse and OBCL II ;D
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I guess I am in the minority when I say this album is banging. Nice production, and 50 was consistent throughout on it. Has heavy replay value for me.
i'm bumpin' it. 8)
people are just afriad to admit they like 50 because they feel it's a sin or something lol.
everybody jumps on this "GRODT" was close, but not a classic.
you can't name me a classic after 2002 anyway, you guys are stuck in the past.
50 dropped heat. 8)
plus, this is a West (Game) Coast forum.
GRODT is a classic because of its impact. As far as quality its an above average pop album.
I'd call The College Dropout a classic as well, and quality-wise its better than GRODT.
The reason there aren't as many classic albums post-2000 is because sometime around then, quality and popularity started separating. The weak albums with a few catchy singles get all the mainstream attention and the quality albums don't get recognized. I could name many albums after 2002 better than GRODT, but almost all of them are underground.
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DC should've pushed Tabi Bonney harder than Wale.
Man FUCK NO! I downloaded his album off the strength of that "The Pocket" beat. Man that nigga lyrics are so randomly stupid its ridiculous. Look at this shit...
http://www.youtube.com/v/aqiKdUke69Q
"So You Know I Was All On Point As Usual
I Can Tell Cause People Usually Point And Say That's Crucial
Even Though That's Force I Aint Never Wear Fubu
'cause I Aint No Bama And The Girls are no a boo-you"
Huh?!
"I Was On The Phone With This Girl That Was Extra Girly
She Was Being Extra And Tried To Carry Me
So I Had To Next Her She Got Problems With Self-Esteem
So That Might Affect Her
My Moms Give Me Lectures, I Been Out Of School For Like 10 Semesters
I Got My Diplomas To Fall Back On Her
Soon As You Turn Around I'm Right Up On Ya
If You Aint Got A Heart I Hope You Aint A Organ Donor
If She Got A Level Head I'm Right Up On Her (On Her, On Her)
Speakin Of Head Imma Go Ahead And Stay Ahead Of Them All
You Can Find Benet Runway And Boutiques Not The Mall
The Name Is Tabiabue And All I Can Say Is"
^ wtf are you sayin?!
But I agree with dude on the first page. Wale has been everywhere although I have yet to meet anyone in real life who listens to him or even mentions him when we discuss music.
And as far as 50, you sold less that Rick Ross? Eww. THATS WHAT YOU GET BITCH!!! LMAO.
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Patiently waits for Ross to put a video out calling 50 Woodface and Munkey while the one guy that got knocked the fuck out with the braids laughs out of control on cue.
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I bought the album. It's dope. It's his first release since Get Rich that has the atmosphere of an album. The tracks flow well and each have a similar sound to them. It's a raw, not very mainstream release.
He could've went for a more polished gangsta sound like he did on Get Rich. He needs to hook up with exile again. Pearly Gates is such a dope track.
But, I'm not sure if it really matters what he does. He overdosed the game with content and his image. Go take some time off and write screenplays then come back hard after you recorded a couple hundred dope tracks to choose from.
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He needs to hook up with exile again. Pearly Gates is such a dope track.
But, I'm not sure if it really matters what he does. He overdosed the game with content and his image. Go take some time off and write screenplays then come back hard after you recorded a couple hundred dope tracks to choose from.
agree with all that, some time off would def. be a good thing 8)
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finally people start to realize what garbage music these big names are making and choose not to buy that shit just cause of a name. Mayb this will make 50 put a little more effort into his music. Cant live of the reputation of GRODT for ever.
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No surprise...the general public stopped fucken with 50 a while ago.....His last album sold because of the Kanye hype....but the qaulity of music has been on the decline since the first G-Unit album(only hardcore G-unit fans still bump his shit). But sales don't mean shit to 50.....He's Stanky Rich.....So I ain't mad at'em.....He'll Sign Beans and kick his feet up....that's his best move as far as hip-hop is concerned.
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Id say its a better album then curtis,it flows well together and feels like an album.But the best songs on curtis are better then the best songs on bisd.And blueprint 3 sucked ass,bisd shits all over that euro pop trash bullshit that jay z put out.
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I guess I am in the minority when I say this album is banging.
Nice production, and 50 was consistent throughout on it.
Has heavy replay value for me.
Too early to tell if it got replay value.
But I kept most of the tracks... so lets see.
yeah i think you are cuz this is some of the worst muzik ever put together EVER
Have you heard Snoop´s Ego Trippin?
If I listen to a album more than once in a day for a extended amount of time, that is heavy replay value for me LMAO. Especially with the amount of music I have to choose from, but yeah I feel what you are saying.
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Patiently waits for Ross to put a video out calling 50 Woodface and Munkey while the one guy that got knocked the fuck out with the braids laughs out of control on cue.
;D ;D
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I guess I am in the minority when I say this album is banging.
Nice production, and 50 was consistent throughout on it.
Has heavy replay value for me.
Too early to tell if it got replay value.
But I kept most of the tracks... so lets see.
yeah i think you are cuz this is some of the worst muzik ever put together EVER
Have you heard Snoop´s Ego Trippin?
nah, Ego Trippin was better than this. Press Play, Can't Say Goodbye, Deez Hollywood Nights >>> this album
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This a solid album, peopel wanted people spitting and thats exactly what hes doing on this album. Anyone who says this is completely trash or the worst music ever put out cant call them selves a fan of music because they are not listening with an open ear.
It may not be a classic, you may not even like the music, but to say its trash is being ignorant.
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I guess I am in the minority when I say this album is banging.
Nice production, and 50 was consistent throughout on it.
Has heavy replay value for me.
Too early to tell if it got replay value.
But I kept most of the tracks... so lets see.
yeah i think you are cuz this is some of the worst muzik ever put together EVER
Have you heard Snoop´s Ego Trippin?
nah, Ego Trippin was better than this. Press Play, Can't Say Goodbye, Deez Hollywood Nights >>> this album
Why ain't I surprised that you said that?
Please feel free to place your vote here; ;) ;D
Ego Trippin is underrated (Poll) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=178487.0)
I'll pass. Ego Trippin, while weak overall, had several dope cuts. Press Play alone is better than any song off BISD. I'm not feeling anything from this album. I listened to it the whole way through and every track to me was like "meh". Could be I'm 50'd out.
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I guess I am in the minority when I say this album is banging.
Nice production, and 50 was consistent throughout on it.
Has heavy replay value for me.
Too early to tell if it got replay value.
But I kept most of the tracks... so lets see.
i didn't expect that.
did you keep Ok You're right? :D
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im laughing because 50 loved to make fun of other people sales especially Rick Ross and now it turns out the same year Ross outsells him by 1,000. The industry didnt change much in the past 6 months and Ross's album leaked too. So 50 cant be using no excuses. I just hope Game comes out and outsells him would be pretty funny. 50's got served some humble pie. He's almost Ja Rule'd himself
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I'm happy that 50's rap career has finally come to end.
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Watch how boring the rap game is the day 50 retires.
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Saw this yesterday so copped it, haven't watched the DVD yet, there's enough bangers on here for my liking. If I spin a CD more than 5 or 6 times it deserves my money, we'll see if I'm still listening to this in a few months though. Listened to Relapse for this first time in awhile yesterday, god damn the drums on De Ja Vu are dope, the snare is insane!
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Lol! Rick Ross sold more than him? after 50 cent dissed his sales, saying he had won ;D i guess that came back to bite him in the ass
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Well I guess from reading on sohh, they said 50 did 161k 1st. I think Ross did 158k but who is keeping score. Sales is not everything right? ;)
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Well I guess from reading on sohh, they said 50 did 161k 1st. I think Ross did 158k but who is keeping score. Sales is not everything right? ;)
it is for 50.
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Well I guess from reading on sohh, they said 50 did 161k 1st. I think Ross did 158k but who is keeping score. Sales is not everything right? ;)
it is for 50.
Yep
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I guess I am in the minority when I say this album is banging.
Nice production, and 50 was consistent throughout on it.
Has heavy replay value for me.
Too early to tell if it got replay value.
But I kept most of the tracks... so lets see.
i didn't expect that.
did you keep Ok You're right? :D
Let me rate the tracks quick.
Vader's Before I self destruct quick breakdown;
-1; The Invasion;
3.5/5
-2; Then Day Went By;
3.5/5
-3; Death To Enemies;
3.5/5
-4; So Disrespectful
3.5/5
-5; Psycho (Feat. Eminem)
3/5
-6; Hold Me Down
3/5
-7; Crime Wave
3.5/5
-8; Stretch
3.5/5
-9; Strong Enough
3.5/5
-11; Gangsta's Delight
3/5
-14; OK, You're Right
3/5
-15; Could've Been You (Feat. R. Kelly)
3/5
Overall;
Kept 12 out of 16.... most of them a little above average. so;
3/5
yo wtf homie???
all songs are 10/5
50 will win grammy for sure.. just watch!
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one of the great moments in hip hop history
but that "hold me down" joint is dope
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Well I guess from reading on sohh, they said 50 did 161k 1st. I think Ross did 158k but who is keeping score. Sales is not everything right? ;)
it is for 50.
Yep
I guess now it was for 50 8)
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yo.......i think 50 leaked this shit ......
he knew shit was not gonna sell well so he had to make up an excuse.....
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i want to see where his new home label will be or if he'll stick with interscope
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i want to see where his new home label will be or if he'll stick with interscope
I would love to see him go independent, he's got enough money to do everything on his own, real creative control
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i want to see where his new home label will be or if he'll stick with interscope
I would love to see him go independent, he's got enough money to do everything on his own, real creative control
definately.I would love eminem to do the same.Seems he an sign artists but cant release them because interscope says they arent marketable or whatever.At the very least eminem should open an independant label so we could see the slaughterhouse album through him.Same with cashis,bobby creekwater,stat quo,and obie trice.Hell I wonder if the reason young zee didnt get an album on shady was because they didnt think he would sell.
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I guess I am in the minority when I say this album is banging.
Nice production, and 50 was consistent throughout on it.
Has heavy replay value for me.
Too early to tell if it got replay value.
But I kept most of the tracks... so lets see.
i didn't expect that.
did you keep Ok You're right? :D
Let me rate the tracks quick.
Vader's Before I self destruct quick breakdown;
-1; The Invasion;
3.5/5
-2; Then Day Went By;
3.5/5
-3; Death To Enemies;
3.5/5
-4; So Disrespectful
3.5/5
-5; Psycho (Feat. Eminem)
3/5
-6; Hold Me Down
3/5
-7; Crime Wave
3.5/5
-8; Stretch
3.5/5
-9; Strong Enough
3.5/5
-11; Gangsta's Delight
3/5
-14; OK, You're Right
3/5
-15; Could've Been You (Feat. R. Kelly)
3/5
Overall;
Kept 12 out of 16.... most of them a little above average. so;
3/5
i see, so you could actually tolerate 50's mumbling on Ok you're right ;D
so you rate Psycho as decent: let me guess...Eminem?
also LOL at you for keeping Could've been you: when it first leaked you were dissing it :loser: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Tbh 50 tried releasing a grimey NY sounding album in 2009 which was never gonna sell when you consider what's popular at the moment. He'll probably go the Jay route and throw big name rnb singers on all his tracks for his next album.
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Jay had Rihaana, A.Keys, Cudi, Drake and Mr. Hudson. 50 had Ne-Yo, R.Kelly and that Black Magic group on Do You Think About Me. So it's 3 vs. 5, not to mention that Jay had better hooks (minus the corny hook from Rihanna).
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Jay had Rihaana, A.Keys, Cudi, Drake and Mr. Hudson. 50 had Ne-Yo, R.Kelly and that Black Magic group on Do You Think About Me. So it's 3 vs. 5, not to mention that Jay had better hooks (minus the corny hook from Rihanna).
I was referring more to the overall sound of the album. it wasn't particularly gritty, it was made for the mainstream. Where as in contrast bar a couple tracks 50s was meant to be a gritty album. True by doing that it sounded a bit mixtape-ish in sound (although thats a problem I find with a lot of these gritty albums - check Slaughterhouse).
For Eminem to sell like he did with Relapse was a testament to his popularity. If Em had put an album of Forever type songs like Interscope want, he would've sold 2mil easy.
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But I think what Jay did was more appropriate than what 50 did. 50 basically went backwards while Jay moved forward with futuristic production and trying to set new trends. That's why I also didn't like American Gangster; if I want to hear Jay rap about the dope game I'll listen to Reasonable Doubt and not some 40 year billionaire with less hunger, weaker flow and lyrics. Because that's why you get when you try to recreate a certain album. That's why Jay sounded much more comfortable on BP3.
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one of the great moments in hip hop history
but that "hold me down" joint is dope
My fav joint on the album, lovin the hook.
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But I think what Jay did was more appropriate than what 50 did. 50 basically went backwards while Jay moved forward with futuristic production and trying to set new trends. That's why I also didn't like American Gangster; if I want to hear Jay rap about the dope game I'll listen to Reasonable Doubt and not some 40 year billionaire with less hunger, weaker flow and lyrics. Because that's why you get when you try to recreate a certain album. That's why Jay sounded much more comfortable on BP3.
I guess i didn't like BP3 and imo American Gangster shits all over it. 50's only problem was his hook writing and poor beats on a couple tracks. True you can't try and create the exact same album but theres no problem making a gangster rap album with a different sound. Jay did it with the original Blueprint.
Personally as well sometimes you need to take a step backwards to move forwards in the future. If 50 had made another cheesy album full of timbo beats and akon hooks - yer it would have met with the current sound but it would have alienated some of his most loyal fans. By releasing BISD he's giving an album to those that love the grittier side of his work. I'm sure his next effort will be a lot more mainstream friendly.
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Like I said before he's gets my respect for releasing this type of album in the climate we're in.
In the 50th law they mentioned 50 was going to create his own record label.
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Like I said before he's gets my respect for releasing this type of album in the climate we're in.
In the 50th law they mentioned 50 was going to create his own record label.
it'll be interesting to see his ability to see who can sell him records. Buck and Banks were good signings to G Unit but the rest pretty much flopped so I'm not sure whether he could pick out acts like Diddy or Akon do.
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Jay had Rihaana, A.Keys, Cudi, Drake and Mr. Hudson. 50 had Ne-Yo, R.Kelly and that Black Magic group on Do You Think About Me. So it's 3 vs. 5, not to mention that Jay had better hooks (minus the corny hook from Rihanna).
I was referring more to the overall sound of the album. it wasn't particularly gritty, it was made for the mainstream. Where as in contrast bar a couple tracks 50s was meant to be a gritty album. True by doing that it sounded a bit mixtape-ish in sound (although thats a problem I find with a lot of these gritty albums - check Slaughterhouse).
For Eminem to sell like he did with Relapse was a testament to his popularity. If Em had put an album of Forever type songs like Interscope want, he would've sold 2mil easy.
gritty or not, its still weak. anyway lol @ people calling this album gritty like its the hardest thing they've ever heard. Maybe to 50 Cent's standards it is. But this is less gritty than your average 90s east coast album.
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You're missing the point when people call it gritty. It was released in this environment. We're not in the 90s.
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To bad 50 sell 160k.. The album is way better then Curtis!
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I'll take Fifs grimey New York sound over Jays Futuristic pop shit... I don't have a problem with that sound, but I just didn't feel Jays rendition of it, and I definitely wouldn't wanna see Fif doing that kinda shit
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I'll take Fifs grimey New York sound over Jays Futuristic pop shit... I don't have a problem with that sound, but I just didn't feel Jays rendition of it, and I definitely wouldn't wanna see Fif doing that kinda shit
BSID> BP3 IMO
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I like both albums. I also like Ghetto Techno by Jay which a lot of people hate on.
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Jay had Rihaana, A.Keys, Cudi, Drake and Mr. Hudson. 50 had Ne-Yo, R.Kelly and that Black Magic group on Do You Think About Me. So it's 3 vs. 5, not to mention that Jay had better hooks (minus the corny hook from Rihanna).
I was referring more to the overall sound of the album. it wasn't particularly gritty, it was made for the mainstream. Where as in contrast bar a couple tracks 50s was meant to be a gritty album. True by doing that it sounded a bit mixtape-ish in sound (although thats a problem I find with a lot of these gritty albums - check Slaughterhouse).
For Eminem to sell like he did with Relapse was a testament to his popularity. If Em had put an album of Forever type songs like Interscope want, he would've sold 2mil easy.
gritty or not, its still weak. anyway lol @ people calling this album gritty like its the hardest thing they've ever heard. Maybe to 50 Cent's standards it is. But this is less gritty than your average 90s east coast album.
For me, that word best describes the sound of a song say Strong Enough on the album. Hardest thing I have ever heard? Nah. Get Clapped from Lloyd Banks' The Big Apple album is another example. As many people that may knock 50 for not having a NY sound, he always has 2-5 joints like Strong Enough that have a distinct east coast feel to it.
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I'll take Fifs grimey New York sound over Jays Futuristic pop shit... I don't have a problem with that sound, but I just didn't feel Jays rendition of it, and I definitely wouldn't wanna see Fif doing that kinda shit
BSID> BP3 IMO
No doubt. The Dre beats help right? ;)
I can't co sign that Ghetto Techno joint though Action. I only listened to it for like 30 seconds though? Was Jays worst track ever from the small impression I got. Up it again I'll give it one more chance
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some good reviews. if i did one it wouldn't be pretty.
and that ghetto techno track was total ass imo.
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i enjoyed both 50 & Jay's albums & believe it or not, they were the two "most hated on" albums lol.
if this was 50's first album, 8 years ago & then GRODT came out after, more people would like this album, without a doubt in my mind.
everything he has done since GRODT has been compared to GRODT & that's why his music is hated on.
i'm not saying anything he has done is on that same level, but if The Massacre was the debut album for any other up & coming rapper, you guys would without a doubt enjoy it more.
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50 took an L. A big one. A hilarious, epic one. Anyone trying to defend him should get off his dick 8)
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No one defends his sales or the fact he's a shit talker. I'm pretty sure everyone agrees that he had this coming. The conversation at hand is about the quality of his subsequent albums since Get Rich. There's a group that says each one got worse, there's a group that says there's a couple good songs on each, and then there's a group that says his releases past Get Rich have more or less been consistent.
I'm a have to say Ghetto Techno is one of my favourite tracks from 2009. It's an amazing club banger while managing to be a great drinking track. It's catchy, infectious, and oddly intriguing. The chorus is about about drinking away the pain which contract sharply with the traditional club song. Maybe it's cause I like drinking quite a bit.
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^it's more how like everybody defends their favorite underground artist for pushing under 50k, but still say their music is great.
not that 50's is great, but it's solid.
he had minimal "bitch tracks" on this album & still tried to push it, i give him respect for that.
but no, nobody is trying to defend his sales, they are pathetic for who he is & being on a major; but it's the times & his persona, 50 is a "dead" character.
but i'll say it for everybody who makes music out there, sales are not relevant to how good the music is.
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lol 50 flops and ppl still tryin to defend him. 50 the biggest shit talker when it come to sales. Cham i see u post on how little the game and so and so will sell then 50 flops and u come with this new philosophy that sales dont matter all the sudden. Ppl on here are such gimmicks when it come to their favorite artists.
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^it's more how like everybody defends their favorite underground artist for pushing under 50k, but still say their music is great.
not that 50's is great, but it's solid.
he had minimal "bitch tracks" on this album & still tried to push it, i give him respect for that.
but no, nobody is trying to defend his sales, they are pathetic for who he is & being on a major; but it's the times & his persona, 50 is a "dead" character.
but i'll say it for everybody who makes music out there, sales are not relevant to how good the music is.
50 is gonna have a hard time finding many to support him on this one.
The funny thing for me is it is never about sales. I can enjoy the album without peeking at soundscan. But 50 would CONSTANTLY talk about and clown others for weak sales. You become a product of your environment and as much as he talks about what the "general public" wants, there is a disconnect. It is only a week and it will be interesting to see how Interscope and 50 try to promote this album in the coming months to get his "numbers" back to something respectable for both. Maybe do like Em and re release it or do like The Massacre and release videos for the album with bonus tracks.
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Good.
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lol 50 flops and ppl still tryin to defend him. 50 the biggest shit talker when it come to sales. Cham i see u post on how little the game and so and so will sell then 50 flops and u come with this new philosophy that sales dont matter all the sudden. Ppl on here are such gimmicks when it come to their favorite artists.
i guess you weren't in this section when the latest phad was shitting on Joe Budden. ::)
if you go through all my posts & can't see me saying at least 15 times, i will delete my account lol.
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I guess I am in the minority when I say this album is banging.
Nice production, and 50 was consistent throughout on it.
Has heavy replay value for me.
Too early to tell if it got replay value.
But I kept most of the tracks... so lets see.
i didn't expect that.
did you keep OK You're right? :D
Let me rate the tracks quick.
Vader's Before I self destruct quick breakdown;
-1; The Invasion;
3.5/5
-2; Then Day Went By;
3.5/5
-3; Death To Enemies;
3.5/5
-4; So Disrespectful
3.5/5
-5; Psycho (Feat. Eminem)
3/5
-6; Hold Me Down
3/5
-7; Crime Wave
3.5/5
-8; Stretch
3.5/5
-9; Strong Enough
3.5/5
-11; Gangsta's Delight
3/5
-14; OK, You're Right
3/5
-15; Could've Been You (Feat. R. Kelly)
3/5
Overall;
Kept 12 out of 16.... most of them a little above average. so;
3/5
i see, so you could actually tolerate 50's mumbling on Ok you're right ;D
so you rate Psycho as decent: let me guess...Eminem?
also LOL at you for keeping Could've been you: when it first leaked you were dissing it :loser: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I'm giving "OK you're right" a pass because of the beat.
Em did his job om "Psycho",nothing revolutionary but you know.
I still think the hook on "Could've been you" is corny (sniffing my ass ain't a good metaphor :-X)... the rest is alright.
alright
I'll take Fifs grimey New York sound over Jays Futuristic pop shit... I don't have a problem with that sound, but I just didn't feel Jays rendition of it, and I definitely wouldn't wanna see Fif doing that kinda shit
BSID> BP3 IMO
No doubt. The Dre beats help right? ;)
I can't co sign that Ghetto Techno joint though Action. I only listened to it for like 30 seconds though? Was Jays worst track ever from the small impression I got. Up it again I'll give it one more chance
a bit, but Dre dropped better stuff this year
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Deeper Than Rap > BISD 8) :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Jay had Rihaana, A.Keys, Cudi, Drake and Mr. Hudson. 50 had Ne-Yo, R.Kelly and that Black Magic group on Do You Think About Me. So it's 3 vs. 5, not to mention that Jay had better hooks (minus the corny hook from Rihanna).
Your forgetting pharrell.Not to mention the fact that jay z has a total of 11 guests and a second appearance by kanye on a 15 track album.50 had three guests on a 16 track album.And you can barely count the third guest it was more of a backup vocals.
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so what did 50 officially sell first week? I'm seeing 157K, 160K, and other random figures on different sites... but either way it's combined with digital sales so ouch, but whatever I copped the album cuz I liked it
well Rick Ross sold 158K first week and he's sold around 390K to date, so we'll have to see how 50's sales total out to be 8)
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I dont understand people say that most artist buy a certain number of copies in the first week
but why didnt 50 buy at least enough to make it go gold he has the money.
Can some one explain the buying a certain in first week thing?
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^yeah, i never understood why everybody made a big deal about the first week.
final sale numbers should be the thing to look at.
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Well final sales are the real way albums should be looked at this album will not have legs.Their isnt a big hit on the album and the album isnt good enough that word of mouth will carry it.Dont get me wrong I think its a solid album but it wont be that kind of seller.The album may not even make gold,though Im curious to see the worldwide sales because 50 seems to sell more worldwide then in the states.
Back to the first week sales,some albums sell nothing first week and do big numbers later.Carter II took a long time before word of mouth hit and it sold big in time.Chamillionaires first album was sitting at gold when the second single dropped about 5 months after the album was out and propelled it to triple platinum.
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How do you determine final sales? this month? next month? one year? two years? 5 years? a decade?
One might say first week sales reflect how popular an artist is at the time. The higher the first week sales the more relevant the artist is to the public; for hip-hops this supports braging rights. It also reflects how well greased an artist is by "the machine" - USUALLY the higher the first week sales the more money is spent on marketing a project. Clearly, this isn't always true.
BUT, If you check music for music then none of this matters.
In 50's case it matters because of his public history and his emphasis on sales and it's role in determining an artist's relevancy and power.
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How do you determine final sales? this month? next month? one year? two years? 5 years? a decade?
One might say first week sales reflect how popular an artist is at the time. The higher the first week sales the more relevant the artist is to the public; for hip-hops this supports braging rights. It also reflects how well greased an artist is by "the machine" - USUALLY the higher the first week sales the more money is spent on marketing a project. Clearly, this isn't always true.
BUT, If you check music for music then none of this matters.
In 50's case it matters because of his public history and his emphasis on sales and it's role in determining an artist's relevancy and power.
Not true. This has only been the case in recent years. During the 90s, first week sales meant jack.
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How do you determine final sales? this month? next month? one year? two years? 5 years? a decade?
One might say first week sales reflect how popular an artist is at the time. The higher the first week sales the more relevant the artist is to the public; for hip-hops this supports braging rights. It also reflects how well greased an artist is by "the machine" - USUALLY the higher the first week sales the more money is spent on marketing a project. Clearly, this isn't always true.
BUT, If you check music for music then none of this matters.
In 50's case it matters because of his public history and his emphasis on sales and it's role in determining an artist's relevancy and power.
Not true. This has only been the case in recent years. During the 90s, first week sales meant jack.
True, I think there is even more emphasis on 1st week sales now because after the 1st week, sales consistently drop 30-60%. A album in the 90's could be low 1st week and still build a buzz and either keep its sales steady or even increase. You had alot of albums that were #1 multiple times. The only albums rap wise the last couple of years that started slow 1st week and still sold alot were Chamillionaire and Timbaland and Tim's was more a universal album.
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Just watched the movie, shit was aite, ending kinda sucked though. Some dope sounding tracks throughout the movie though
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shit was aite, ending kinda sucked though. Some dope sounding tracks throughout the movie though
co-sign
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Second week predictions are for 100k.Thats not much of a drop off.Considering for example kid cudi sold 130k first week and like 20k the second week and it still hasnt gone past 200k.
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Second week predictions are for 100k.Thats not much of a drop off.Considering for example kid cudi sold 130k first week and like 20k the second week and it still hasnt gone past 200k.
Wow that is actually really good.
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Second week predictions are for 100k.Thats not much of a drop off.Considering for example kid cudi sold 130k first week and like 20k the second week and it still hasnt gone past 200k.
Wow that is actually really good.
I think this album could be a sleeper and get some consistant sales, shit is actually good and grimey so hopefully word will get round. I don't wanna see Fif do a 180 from this kinda music cos it didn't sell
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^yeah, i never understood why everybody made a big deal about the first week.
final sale numbers should be the thing to look at.
blame 50 cent for that
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Epic Fail
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for real why should a wack album (compared to his dope ones) sell alotta units?
Epic Fail
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To bad 50 sell 160k.. The album is way better then Curtis!
gimme some of the kush ur high off!
cause this album blows.. Curtis sucked, but this is beyond garbage
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Yeah, we'll clearly not everyone thinks it's wack. I enjoyed it. I thought it was better than Curtis. Everyone complains about whatever music he makes. If it's raw like BISD people say it's wack. If it's more pop like Curtis people say it's wack. He can't do any right for some listeners and yet they still listen. Ah! Conundrum? I think so.
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50cent's album is at no.21 this week selling 59,717 copies , which is down 62% from last week.
see below for details:
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CHART DATE: 11/30/2009
LAST UPDATE: 12/01/2009 13:38:43
NOW IN: FINAL
4 21 50 CENT SHADY/AFTERMATH/INT 59,717 -62%
BEFORE I SELF DESTRUCT
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I dont know how many times u guys will have 2 listen before u realize this is not good
people need 2 stop being groupies and just listen 2 the music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chno8atQKmg
real music with the heart
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How many times does someone have to bang it into your head before you realize people have different tastes? You're being the groupie by coming into an artists thread you don't even enjoy.
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How many times does someone have to bang it into your head before you realize people have different tastes? You're being the groupie by coming into an artists thread you don't even enjoy.
+1
That Nine link duke posted was aite, sounds like a DMX rip off though
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http://www.youtube.com/v/9jOHlY3TWwM&hl
sounds like a DMX rip off though
its more the other way around
action I just hate frauds who makes bad music