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Why didn't the U.S. bomb the shit out of them then? Oh yeah, they hoped that the Taliban would be able to create a strong, centralized government after they took control of the whole country, but that obviously never happened.
IMO, most people don't realize that Bush's foreign policy is first and foremost designed to defuse the extreme threat of terrorists getting nuclear weapons. SAID IT YOUR SELF. "EXTREME". NUCLEAR WEAPONS ARE NOT PURCHASED AT CONVINIENCE STORES. HOW ARE TERRORISTS GONNA GET THEIR HANDS ON THEM. THIS IS A MINUTE THREAT EXAGERATED BY THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION IN ORDER TO HAVE PUBLIC SUPPORT FOR WHAT EVER HE DOES.This was the main reason for ousting Saddam Hussein (Saddam was building a nuclear reactor with Russia's help - a dictator of an oil rich country has no legitimate need for nuclear energy for electricity). Saddam's nuclear ambitions were fueling nuclear ambitions in the neighboring Arab countries and Iran from what they claimed were defensive needs caused by Saddam's aggression. SADDAMS NUCLEAR AMBITIONS WERENT ENCOURAGING SIMILIAR FEELINGS IN IRAN AND THE REST OF THE ARAB WORLD. ISRAELS'S 100 OR SO NUCLEAR BOMBS ARE. PLUS, THE SYRIANS AND IRANIANS WILL TELL YOU THEMSELVES, THEIR NUKES WILL BE POINTED AT TEL AVIV.That's also the main reason Bush is intensely focusing on the peace process between Arabs and Jews, trying to dry up the swamp of state-supported terrorist organizations, and end the daily incitement to murder in the state-controlled Arab press.BUSH IS FOCUSING ON THE SHAM CALLED THE ROAD MAP SO THAT THE ISRAELS WILL BE FURTHER CONSOLIDATED IN THEIR POWER OVER THE ARABS. ISRAELIS WANT THE PALESTINIAN PROBLEM OFF THEIR HANDS, SO MUCH SO THEY'RE EVEN WILLING TO HAND OVER SOME CRUMBS OF LAND. FURTHERMORE, YOU DO REALIZE THAT THE STATES THAT CONTROL THE PRESS ARE AMERICAN ALLIES.By removing the coals that feed the flames of radicalism, and requiring Muslim nations take responsibility for cracking down on terrorist militias in their jurisdiction, Bush hopes to defuse the likelihood of a terrorist nuclear attack on America within the next 20 years. HOW ABOUT THE AMERICANS TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE MESS THEYVE CREATED? HOW ARE THE AMERICANS GONNA "REMOVE THE FLAMS OF RADICALISM" WITH WARS? AMERICAS FOREIGN POLICY AND ITS CAREFULL NARTURING OF ITS CHILD ISRAEL IS THE COALS THAT FEED THE FLAMES OF RADICALISM. AND BY THE WAY, LMFAO@ TERRORIST NUCLEAR ATTACKS.To leave the region as it was, increasingly spiraling out of control into fanatical hatred and a culture that celebrated murder, was determined to be an unacceptable risk. That's what made "pre-emption" imperative. Most of the U.S. Congress understands this reasoning, with some exceptions. The Europeans and the "No blood for oil" people obviously don't perceive any threat if we let things stay the way they were on September 10, 2001.THIS REGION IS A MESS BECAUSE OF AMERICA AND BRITAINS MEDDLING. BRITAIN GAVE BIRTH TO ISRAEL, AND AMERICA HAS NURTURED IT, FUNDED IT, ARMED IT AND TURNED A BLIND EYE TO ITS OPPRESSION OF PALESTINIANS. HOW MANY GOVTS HAS YOUR GOVT TOPPLED IN THE REGION? SUPPORT ISRAEL, OPPRESS THE PALESTINIANS, TORTURE THE MUSLIMS WITH PUPPET ALLIES, AND SUPPRESS MUSLIMS. THATS A GREAT GAME PLAN. YOUR GOVT IS CHOPPING THE BRANCHES OFF A DEAD TREE. TAKE OUT THE FUCKIN ROOT.
Quote from: Engel-Rock AKA Dances With Bitch on July 05, 2003, 07:56:22 PMIMO, most people don't realize that Bush's foreign policy is first and foremost designed to defuse the extreme threat of terrorists getting nuclear weapons. SAID IT YOUR SELF. "EXTREME". NUCLEAR WEAPONS ARE NOT PURCHASED AT CONVINIENCE STORES. HOW ARE TERRORISTS GONNA GET THEIR HANDS ON THEM. THIS IS A MINUTE THREAT EXAGERATED BY THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION IN ORDER TO HAVE PUBLIC SUPPORT FOR WHAT EVER HE DOES.This was the main reason for ousting Saddam Hussein (Saddam was building a nuclear reactor with Russia's help - a dictator of an oil rich country has no legitimate need for nuclear energy for electricity). Saddam's nuclear ambitions were fueling nuclear ambitions in the neighboring Arab countries and Iran from what they claimed were defensive needs caused by Saddam's aggression. SADDAMS NUCLEAR AMBITIONS WERENT ENCOURAGING SIMILIAR FEELINGS IN IRAN AND THE REST OF THE ARAB WORLD. ISRAELS'S 100 OR SO NUCLEAR BOMBS ARE. PLUS, THE SYRIANS AND IRANIANS WILL TELL YOU THEMSELVES, THEIR NUKES WILL BE POINTED AT TEL AVIV.That's also the main reason Bush is intensely focusing on the peace process between Arabs and Jews, trying to dry up the swamp of state-supported terrorist organizations, and end the daily incitement to murder in the state-controlled Arab press.BUSH IS FOCUSING ON THE SHAM CALLED THE ROAD MAP SO THAT THE ISRAELS WILL BE FURTHER CONSOLIDATED IN THEIR POWER OVER THE ARABS. ISRAELIS WANT THE PALESTINIAN PROBLEM OFF THEIR HANDS, SO MUCH SO THEY'RE EVEN WILLING TO HAND OVER SOME CRUMBS OF LAND. FURTHERMORE, YOU DO REALIZE THAT THE STATES THAT CONTROL THE PRESS ARE AMERICAN ALLIES.By removing the coals that feed the flames of radicalism, and requiring Muslim nations take responsibility for cracking down on terrorist militias in their jurisdiction, Bush hopes to defuse the likelihood of a terrorist nuclear attack on America within the next 20 years. HOW ABOUT THE AMERICANS TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE MESS THEYVE CREATED? HOW ARE THE AMERICANS GONNA "REMOVE THE FLAMS OF RADICALISM" WITH WARS? AMERICAS FOREIGN POLICY AND ITS CAREFULL NARTURING OF ITS CHILD ISRAEL IS THE COALS THAT FEED THE FLAMES OF RADICALISM. AND BY THE WAY, LMFAO@ TERRORIST NUCLEAR ATTACKS.To leave the region as it was, increasingly spiraling out of control into fanatical hatred and a culture that celebrated murder, was determined to be an unacceptable risk. That's what made "pre-emption" imperative. Most of the U.S. Congress understands this reasoning, with some exceptions. The Europeans and the "No blood for oil" people obviously don't perceive any threat if we let things stay the way they were on September 10, 2001.THIS REGION IS A MESS BECAUSE OF AMERICA AND BRITAINS MEDDLING. BRITAIN GAVE BIRTH TO ISRAEL, AND AMERICA HAS NURTURED IT, FUNDED IT, ARMED IT AND TURNED A BLIND EYE TO ITS OPPRESSION OF PALESTINIANS. HOW MANY GOVTS HAS YOUR GOVT TOPPLED IN THE REGION? SUPPORT ISRAEL, OPPRESS THE PALESTINIANS, TORTURE THE MUSLIMS WITH PUPPET ALLIES, AND SUPPRESS MUSLIMS. THATS A GREAT GAME PLAN. YOUR GOVT IS CHOPPING THE BRANCHES OFF A DEAD TREE. TAKE OUT THE FUCKIN ROOT.
It's interesting that the view you put forward now is extremely different from that which you were putting forward before, during, and for sometime after the war was won. You now admit that the war on Iraq was fought not to disarm Saddam of his alleged Weapons of Mass destruction but purely for its "strategic and logical attractions".
That is 5 - 10,000 civilian lives lost, as well as the lives of soldiers on both sides, for "strategic and logical attractions". I find it difficult to take when Americans feign ignorance as to why their nation is despised by millions, when the most intelligent and informed pro-American on this board admits that the United States fought a war of mass murder to gain a stronger foothold in a region.
I would be very interested to see where you got the information from that Al-Queda were planning to take over 3 countries. Pipe dream maybe, reality no. Do you honestly think that China, a nation with the largest army in the world by far, would sit back and allow a terrorist organization to take over three nations on its border? Ditto Russia, who would surely act with Kazakhstan to stop it. I would also assume that the Western world would unite and make sure that Al-Queda is not allowed to gain a foothold? Your assertion is PURE FANTASY.
I congragulate you on your progress. You are now at the point where you admit (you probably knew all along) that the reasons to go to war as presented to the public were false. Maybe someday you will see why slaughtering civilians by the thousand makes America and Britain no better than Saddam, and only leads to greater hatred of America and the west, which means more terrorist attacks.
All of the talk about WMD and chemical and biological weapons sometimes makes people forget that 3,000 people were killed on September 11th 2001 using American planes, not terrorist bombs. With terrorism, it is often the case of "where there's a will there's a way'". If someone is willing to kill themselves to kill others there is little you can do to stop them. America and Britain, rather than reducing the chance of future terrorist attacks in the west, increased it by creating more orphans and more widowers.
jesus christ! are you trying to get an award for who made the longest post or something?
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