West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: yoyoyo on August 05, 2002, 06:49:19 AM
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.....and thats wack
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who are you talkin about?
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no one on the west pushes enough units except for snoop and dre and 2pac
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The West not pushin' unit's is a myth....
The east runnin' shit is a myth as well, cause there is only a handfull of artist's who actually push unit's......and you know who they are....remember (Most of you call them gay or their last lp suck's compared to their first....)
Who give's a fuck.......when the East/West jealousy end's then this game will be all good.
Don't worry lil' girl's, the West will share the dick with yall' again....be patient. It's cumming. ;)
..:Cummin' soon:..
Xzibit (Man vs Machine)
Crooked I (Say hi to the bad guy)
DPG (All the projects in work's)
Dr Dre (Detox)
Knoc-Turn'al (Finaly)
Westside Connection (Re-up)
Ras Kass (Van Gogh will be here...lol)
Shade Sheist (Just wait.....and watch)
;)
..:Swallow Bacc:..
Lol......now
Just a couple of nutz to keep the shit-talker's sticky for a minute......and buy music instead of letting Mtv motivate u.
Peace
Hatesrats 2oo2
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The West not pushin' unit's is a myth....
The east runnin' shit is a myth as well, cause there is only a handfull of artist's who actually push unit's......and you know who they are....remember (Most of you call them gay or their last lp suck's compared to their first....)
Who give's a fuck.......when the East/West jealousy end's then this game will be all good.
Don't worry lil' girl's, the West will share the dick with yall' again....be patient. It's cumming.
..:Cummin' soon:..
Xzibit (Man vs Machine)
Crooked I (Say hi to the bad guy)
DPG (All the projects in work's)
Dr Dre (Detox)
Knoc-Turn'al (Finaly)
Westside Connection (Re-up)
Ras Kass (Van Gogh will be here...lol)
Shade Sheist (Just wait.....and watch)
..:Swallow Bacc:..
Lol......now
Just a couple of nutz to keep the shit-talker's sticky for a minute......and buy music instead of letting Mtv motivate u.
Peace
Hatesrats 2oo2
I buy hella albums from the westcoast and I always support them. As to your list:
crooked I won't sell for shit
DPG won't sell for shit
Knoc'turnal won't sell for shit
ras kass won't sell for shit
shade sheist won't sell for shit
Westside connection will do decent thanks to having Ice cube.
I think all those rappers are tight as fuck and I will buy all their albums, but too many people will just bootleg this shit. I am just being realistic.
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but too many people will just bootleg this shit. I am just being realistic.
WORD!
Too Many Fuckers D/ld Shit And Then Think "Ahh Fuck It I Got It Now I Dont Have To Spend Out On It"
And Yall Know Thats True...Dont Front, Some People Have Developed That Mentality And It Sucks For Music. I Wonder If We Could Go A Fortnight Without A Thread Coming Up Announcing A New Leak And People Discussing The Tracks Sayin "This Is Dope" - "This Sucks" - "Aint Nothin On His Debut"
Yea Downloadin Is A Good Way To See What An Album Is Like, But Dont Sit Back With Your CD-R And Say "Fuck Payin Out"
If Everyone Did That Music Would Die...And Dont Assume "If I Dont Get It, No Problems, Loads Of Others Will" Cos Eventually That Will Become A Common Problem!
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Right Rud!
I've bought all the albums that i like,zero bootleg! >:(
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If Everyone Did That Music Would Die...And Dont Assume "If I Dont Get It, No Problems, Loads Of Others Will" Cos Eventually That Will Become A Common Problem!
It already is a problem in my opinion. I don't think under the influence has sold for shit, and that is a dope album. Same with this is the life I lead, its sold like 50,000 copies. Crooked I's album is going to have all kinds of fucked up guest spots on it in order to sell. People who don't support the west coast are just ruining it for everyone. I don't blame Dre and Metallica at all for suing Napster. All these up and comming artists do not get the credit they deserve. And anyone notice how expensive cd's are right now. They were cheaper in the 90's then they are now. I remember I could get an album for like 13 bucks. Now it is like $17 before tax. Streetz is a mutha and Space Boogie are both dope albums, but thanks to bootlegging they didn't sell shit, which led Kurupt to joining tha row again and fucking up the pound. Think about it, if no one bootleged those 2 albums kurupt probably would have sold a lot more and we would probably have the whole dpgc family together. So to all the people who just download and burn and are too fucking cheap to shell out for an album: Fuck you, go get a job you lazy worthless bastards.
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most of the mutha fuckas who download shit have a job thats how they can afford $1000 computers to download cheap cds or vinyl.
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Right Rud!
I've bought all the albums that i like,zero bootleg! >:(
Was I Refering To Anyone Here? NO
AcGrundy420 :
Yea I Agree It Is A Problem Now - But What I Mean Is The Attitude Will Further Spread If It Isnt Slowed Soon.
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Was I Refering To Anyone Here? NO
AcGrundy420 :
Yea I Agree It Is A Problem Now - But What I Mean Is The Attitude Will Further Spread If It Isnt Slowed Soon.
Why u treat me so bad ?
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most of the mutha fuckas who download shit have a job thats how they can afford $1000 computers to download cheap cds or vinyl.
I personnally buy all Westcoast albums when they drop. The only thing downloading does that might be considered bad.. is that it makes it easier for me to wait and buy an album when I have the cash rather then on that Tuesday. None of us are rich.. and 18 bucks for a CD is THE PROBLEM. NOT BOOTLEGGING.
Before.. I would run out every Tuesday on my lunch break and buy new shit.. cuz I couldnt wait to hear it even if I didnt have the money.. I would have to have it.
Now I may wait 2 or 3 weeks after its release before buying it.. but I still get it. This was the case with DJ Quik and Daz. This is not a bad thing as I should have the right to buy music when I can afford it.
If they want to do something about bootlegging.. they should first try lowing the price of CDs and maybe this will cause folks to purchase more. Not to say that Bootlegging isnt a problem.. its just that they are going about it backwards IMO..
Axle
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Enhanced cds could be a good solution to the bootlegging.
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I personnally buy all Westcoast albums when they drop. The only thing downloading does that might be considered bad.. is that it makes it easier for me to wait and buy an album when I have the cash rather then on that Tuesday. None of us are rich.. and 18 bucks for a CD is THE PROBLEM. NOT BOOTLEGGING.
Before.. I would run out ever Tuesday on my lunch break and buy new shit.. cuz I couldnt wait to hear it even if I didnt have the money.. I would have to have it.
Now I may wait 2 or 3 weeks after its release before buying it.. but I still get it. This was the case with DJ Quik and Daz. This is not a bad thing as I should have the right to buy music when I can afford it.
If they want to do something about bootlegging.. they should first try lowing the price of CDs and maybe this will cause folks to purchase more. Not to say that Bootlegging isnt a problem.. its just that they are going about it backwards IMO..
Axle
very good words there Axle i totally agree if prices where lowered i would buy a whole lot more cds not the other way around and i buy alot of cds but somtimes i wont buy a certain cd but if the price was good i would definatly buy it like for example i got knocs new EP for 4.99 on bestbuy.com to me thats why i bought it cause of the price or else i wouldnt have bought it
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I buy my CD's from Ebay, works out cheaper
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I personnally buy all Westcoast albums when they drop. The only thing downloading does that might be considered bad.. is that it makes it easier for me to wait and buy an album when I have the cash rather then on that Tuesday. None of us are rich.. and 18 bucks for a CD is THE PROBLEM. NOT BOOTLEGGING.
Before.. I would run out ever Tuesday on my lunch break and buy new shit.. cuz I couldnt wait to hear it even if I didnt have the money.. I would have to have it.
Now I may wait 2 or 3 weeks after its release before buying it.. but I still get it. This was the case with DJ Quik and Daz. This is not a bad thing as I should have the right to buy music when I can afford it.
If they want to do something about bootlegging.. they should first try lowing the price of CDs and maybe this will cause folks to purchase more. Not to say that Bootlegging isnt a problem.. its just that they are going about it backwards IMO..
Axle
The reason cd's are $18 is because of bootlegging. They were not that expensive before you could d/l music this easy. Yeah $18 is pricey for an album, especially if the album is not that good. But many albums it is well worth it, considering how much play time they get. That goes for me anyway. Hell I pay $50 for a sack of weed that gets smoked up in a few days and then I have nothing for it. So paying $18 for an album that I will have for many years, and that will entertain me for a long ass time then it is well worth the money.
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Well they should release their albums WORLDWIDE, I buy stuff online but others DON'T or just CAN'T (credit card & shit). I mean Nate Dogg never released out here & I m sure most of the EU didn't saw 1 copy in stores :-/. Same with Daz, DJ Quik, Eastsidaz, .... so on. How can u sell units (like Nelly, DMX and all that other crap) when your album isn't in store. => u can't
I really think that this is the problem :-X
pz
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Well they should release their albums WORLDWIDE, I buy stuff online but others DON'T or just CAN'T (credit card & shit). I mean Nate Dogg never released out here & I m sure most of the EU didn't saw 1 copy in stores :-/. Same with Daz, DJ Quik, Eastsidaz, .... so on. How can u sell units (like Nelly, DMX and all that other crap) when your album isn't in store. => u can't
I really think that this is the problem :-X
Wooooooorrrrddddddd
Most albums dont get released or it they get released
after a few months. (for those in EU)
So people download music, and act like they are true fans
and shit
oh yea back to tha topic
IM GLAD THAT MOST WEST COAST ARTIST DONT MAKE MUSIC
FO THE MAINSTREAM(POP RAP)
THA WEST COAST IS KEEPIN IT REAL , NO NEAD TO DO MUSIC
FO THEM KIDS IN THE KINDERGARTEN. :D :D
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IM GLAD THAT MOST WEST COAST ARTIST DONT MAKE MUSIC
FO THE MAINSTREAM(POP RAP)
THA WEST COAST IS KEEPIN IT REAL , NO NEAD TO DO MUSIC
FO THEM KIDS IN THE KINDERGARTEN.
Word up mutha fucka
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ya buying cds for fucking 17-18 bucks?..goddamn where do ya shop? at wherehouse or somethin???..ya need to goto best buy and buy cds cuz they got their shit pretty cheap...scarface's cd is droppin this week..and its only 10 bucks...
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the reason west coast artist dont sell is becuse peeps buy artist they already know. think about it snoop already had a history of classics before his first album droped. its not it was when quik came out, just put out a tight song and peeps buy your record. the main thing that sells your record is word of mouth. If everybody is saying your shit is wack than more than likely you shit is wack, if everybody is saying your shit is real than peeps are going to pick it up. just like when i bought jadakiss everybody was telling me it was tight so i picked it up. i bought the NAS cause i herd ether on the radio so said i have to have this. I bougt quik and his shit was wack so when peeps ask me about quik i say his shit is wack dont buy it, sound bombing 3 was wack so i tell people dont buy it. if you think of the people that have been selling latly they all have history. mario has a single that has been getting a lot of play but his cd is not selling crazy.
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Soundbomibg III is tight
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Hell I pay $50 for a sack of weed that gets smoked up in a few days and then I have nothing for it. So paying $18 for an album that I will have for many years, and that will entertain me for a long ass time then it is well worth the money.
Well put homie, I was gonna say the same thing. The sticky is gone after a day or two youll have the music for a long ass time. but yea, bootleggin is probably the reason. all the names you listed (knoc, crooked, shade), they wont sell shit. damn, even truth hurts didnt even go gold, she sold like 250 000 right now, and she got major airplay with a major hit single
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the reason west coast artist dont sell is becuse peeps buy artist they already know. think about it snoop already had a history of classics before his first album droped. its not it was when quik came out, just put out a tight song and peeps buy your record. the main thing that sells your record is word of mouth. If everybody is saying your shit is wack than more than likely you shit is wack, if everybody is saying your shit is real than peeps are going to pick it up. just like when i bought jadakiss everybody was telling me it was tight so i picked it up. i bought the NAS cause i herd ether on the radio so said i have to have this. I bougt quik and his shit was wack so when peeps ask me about quik i say his shit is wack dont buy it, sound bombing 3 was wack so i tell people dont buy it. if you think of the people that have been selling latly they all have history. mario has a single that has been getting a lot of play but his cd is not selling crazy.
Nelly and Ja Rule are wack as a mutha fucka and they sell millions.
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Yeah i don't get it Truth Hurts had a very successful single and didnt sell shit..I guess the Nelly And Ja rule heads have fucked it up for everyone
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ey RUD, but listen, the reason why people D/W full length albums is a classic example of supply and demand from economics. The price is too high, demand for that price goes down, but it doesn't dissapear. So people find their way around it.
Bro, i live in Australia where Daz Dillinger & JT sold for A$49.95, and that's fucked up! Thats around $US25. I gotta work a whole day to buy something like that. Fuck them.
If the prices were reasonable and didn't have such high mark ups i would buy much more albums. Don't interpret this wrong i dish out huge amounts of cash on music. Last year I spent $AU1500 on CD's BUT for every 1 cd i buy i will probably download another one from the net for free.
Just my opinion on the issue.
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Nelly and Ja Rule are wack as a mutha fucka and they sell millions.
Yeah, but he said it's about word of mouth and there are more average pop listeners than real hiphop heads in this world and most average pop listeners I know like Nelly. And all those lil kids in the schoolyard will rather be talkin about Nelly than about DJ Quik, Spice-1, Planet Asia, Ab Rude and shit
I think one big problem with bootleggin is that it probably makes CD's more expensive, hence those who yet bought albums legally are the victims, so they start downloadin shit too, now can u blame em for that ? Albums got about 4$ more expensive than they were a few years ago, so I think it's really got to do with bootleggin. But if u bootleg a Jay-Z album the mothafucka won't die of it, if u bootleg an Acey album it's much worse
The only upcomin west coast albums I expect to sell good are Man Vs. Machine, Detox and Oh My God if that one counts. But as long as the dope artists are able to put out shit I'm'a just support them, I don't care about sales