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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Doggystylin on October 09, 2009, 08:12:57 PM
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the number quality of songs in each genre are not even comparable.
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of course.
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hey, you're not that bad after all. this ones for you 8)
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A genre thats been around for 30 years against one thats been around for about 60.I would hope it would have more hits.
And modern rock is awful.Hip hop is doing better rock then rock by a long shot in the last ten years.Really,what good bands have come out lately.
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:bandit:
for real though, hip hop can NEVER compare to rock. rock has been around for too long and is enjoyed by everyone. hip hop is very young compared to rock and is not enjoyed by everyone. especially when talking about the shit, literally, on the radio.
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And modern rock is awful.Hip hop is doing better rock then rock by a long shot in the last ten years.Really,what good bands have come out lately.
this statement is also true about hip hop.
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rock is not enjoyed by everyone.
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I can name lots of good artists in hip hop that have come out in the last ten years.I cant think of any bands to be honest.Maybe one or two at the most.
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rock is not enjoyed by everyone.
really? who doesnt like some type of rock?
I can name lots of good artists in hip hop that have come out in the last ten years.I cant think of any bands to be honest.Maybe one or two at the most.
its all relative.
millions think that lil wayne is the best EVER, that doesnt make it true.
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Ten years and you can only name 2 good bands?
You must not be listening to enough music.
But, what's the point of this thread? Really, who cares? It doesn't mean anything.
Sniff sniff
it stinks of a hater, move on bitch
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yeah im not the biggest fan of rock and id take hardcore rap over rock but im gettin more and more into rock
i mean i never thought id be listenin to rock but when i heard songs like "burnin heart"
DAMN THAT WAS CRACK
rock is not enjoyed by everyone.
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fuck music in general. i don't give a shit what genre it is.
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Ten years and you can only name 2 good bands?
You must not be listening to enough music.
But, what's the point of this thread? Really, who cares? It doesn't mean anything.
Sniff sniff
it stinks of a hater, move on bitch
Name some good bands then.I listen to tons of music and im open to anything.
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Ten years and you can only name 2 good bands?
You must not be listening to enough music.
But, what's the point of this thread? Really, who cares? It doesn't mean anything.
Sniff sniff
it stinks of a hater, move on bitch
Name some good bands then.I listen to tons of music and im open to anything.
To clarify, the bitch comment was not directed towards you but to the thread creator.
As for rock music, you like what you like. I don't think you should be dismissive of the music simply because you don't like it. In the past ten years we've had Radiohead, Coldplay, Agaisnt Me, Animal Collective, Eli Paper Boy Reed, Rage Against The Machine, Foo Fighters, Pearl Jam, Brand New, Casino, Say Anything, Chevelle, Kate Nash, Ingrid Michaelson, Mogwai, Do Make Say Think, Broken Social Scene, Arcade Fire, Arctic Monkeys, Converge, Roger Clyne & the Peacemakers, Ryan Adams, Bright Eyes, etc.
I listed more popular, some not so much. Some more strictly rock, some pop rock, some hardcore, some country, etc.
My only point is while one might not enjoy the music it doesn't mean it's bad. And, you recognize that but I still find you comment about 2 rock bands in the past ten years to be degrading.
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nah action IMO i can kind of see where jay is goin wit that..im not speakin for him but in general many would say the same thing and IMO its cuz they mainly listen to one genre or sort of muzik
i used to think the same, and i still listen to more rap than anything but i try and listen to rock more
but thats only cuz i gave it chance
true some/many rock songs or bands arent the best but they are some that have made bangers, but from this side lookin in....rap muzik might have made more and by that i mean i can listen to more rap muzik than rock but thats jus me, maybe you like rock more and its vice versa for you and others
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I know that' why I said
YOU LIKE WHAT YOU LIKE
My only point is one shouldn't dismiss what you don't like as bad. You simply don't like it doesn't mean it's bad. I don't like anchovies. They're not bad, I just don't enjoy them.
I perfectly understand that.
Myself I listen to all types of music but mainly rap and "rock." I dabble in the blues, jazz, country, and on rare occasion will put on some classical music - mainly piano though
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i know i think its jus said that way cuz str8 up
spinach is one of the worst things ever invented but obviously others like it...how/why dont know but they do
same wit anything that someone else doesnt like
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Ten years and you can only name 2 good bands?
You must not be listening to enough music.
But, what's the point of this thread? Really, who cares? It doesn't mean anything.
Sniff sniff
it stinks of a hater, move on bitch
Name some good bands then.I listen to tons of music and im open to anything.
To clarify, the bitch comment was not directed towards you but to the thread creator.
As for rock music, you like what you like. I don't think you should be dismissive of the music simply because you don't like it. In the past ten years we've had Radiohead, Coldplay, Agaisnt Me, Animal Collective, Eli Paper Boy Reed, Rage Against The Machine, Foo Fighters, Pearl Jam, Brand New, Casino, Say Anything, Chevelle, Kate Nash, Ingrid Michaelson, Mogwai, Do Make Say Think, Broken Social Scene, Arcade Fire, Arctic Monkeys, Converge, Roger Clyne & the Peacemakers, Ryan Adams, Bright Eyes, etc.
I listed more popular, some not so much. Some more strictly rock, some pop rock, some hardcore, some country, etc.
My only point is while one might not enjoy the music it doesn't mean it's bad. And, you recognize that but I still find you comment about 2 rock bands in the past ten years to be degrading.
Well most of the bands you listed are not from the past ten years,a lot of 90s bands in your list.I like a lot of those choices actually.But still most of them are from the 90s.Rise against is a newer band that i enjoy
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take and L doggy
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They both suck now a days
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the number quality of songs in each genre are not even comparable.
so basically you're saying that it's a no-brainer.
so the point of posting is was...?
you might as well go to the Sports Section & write "Kobe Bryant is a Laker". :laugh:
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Hip Hop will never compare to rock.
Only an idiot would find more artistic/technical/intellectual value in hip hop.
That being said I hate modern rock with the exception of a handful of acts here and there.
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Ten years and you can only name 2 good bands?
You must not be listening to enough music.
But, what's the point of this thread? Really, who cares? It doesn't mean anything.
Sniff sniff
it stinks of a hater, move on bitch
Name some good bands then.I listen to tons of music and im open to anything.
To clarify, the bitch comment was not directed towards you but to the thread creator.
As for rock music, you like what you like. I don't think you should be dismissive of the music simply because you don't like it. In the past ten years we've had Radiohead, Coldplay, Agaisnt Me, Animal Collective, Eli Paper Boy Reed, Rage Against The Machine, Foo Fighters, Pearl Jam, Brand New, Casino, Say Anything, Chevelle, Kate Nash, Ingrid Michaelson, Mogwai, Do Make Say Think, Broken Social Scene, Arcade Fire, Arctic Monkeys, Converge, Roger Clyne & the Peacemakers, Ryan Adams, Bright Eyes, etc.
I listed more popular, some not so much. Some more strictly rock, some pop rock, some hardcore, some country, etc.
My only point is while one might not enjoy the music it doesn't mean it's bad. And, you recognize that but I still find you comment about 2 rock bands in the past ten years to be degrading.
yea cause most of those bands are good ::) ill take white stripes over all them
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Ten years and you can only name 2 good bands?
You must not be listening to enough music.
But, what's the point of this thread? Really, who cares? It doesn't mean anything.
Sniff sniff
it stinks of a hater, move on bitch
Name some good bands then.I listen to tons of music and im open to anything.
To clarify, the bitch comment was not directed towards you but to the thread creator.
As for rock music, you like what you like. I don't think you should be dismissive of the music simply because you don't like it. In the past ten years we've had Radiohead, Coldplay, Agaisnt Me, Animal Collective, Eli Paper Boy Reed, Rage Against The Machine, Foo Fighters, Pearl Jam, Brand New, Casino, Say Anything, Chevelle, Kate Nash, Ingrid Michaelson, Mogwai, Do Make Say Think, Broken Social Scene, Arcade Fire, Arctic Monkeys, Converge, Roger Clyne & the Peacemakers, Ryan Adams, Bright Eyes, etc.
I listed more popular, some not so much. Some more strictly rock, some pop rock, some hardcore, some country, etc.
My only point is while one might not enjoy the music it doesn't mean it's bad. And, you recognize that but I still find you comment about 2 rock bands in the past ten years to be degrading.
yea cause most of those bands are good ::) ill take white stripes over all them
::) Right! The white stripes are sooooo superior than them.
You win a prize!
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Classic rock is the shit.
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Rock music is still played. I live in fuckin' Minnesota, were people prefer rock to rap any day, and even their rock stations play only rock older than 10 years. Sad, it's like rock died in 1999.
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its all black music anyways
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As for rock music, you like what you like. I don't think you should be dismissive of the music simply because you don't like it. In the past ten years we've had Radiohead, Coldplay, Agaisnt Me, Animal Collective, Eli Paper Boy Reed, Rage Against The Machine, Foo Fighters, Pearl Jam, Brand New, Casino, Say Anything, Chevelle, Kate Nash, Ingrid Michaelson, Mogwai, Do Make Say Think, Broken Social Scene, Arcade Fire, Arctic Monkeys, Converge, Roger Clyne & the Peacemakers, Ryan Adams, Bright Eyes, etc.
I come from a rock background and I've been playing guitar about 10 years now but I have to side with what most are saying. Rock has been very very poor over the last decade and more. Foo Fighters and Pearl Jam to me is an example of the decline of rock music. very boring radio rock worshipped by many of course, but it's instantly forgettable and formulaic. There have been a few bands recently that have pushed the boundaries and made something awesome, but bands like Brand New and Kate Nash are not exactly good evidence of that, I feel that just proves how stale rock has become.
I'm not trying to hate on your taste in rock music but you don't really make a convincing case that rock hasn't went downhill. The only bands in that list that are even relevant and influential are Mogwai, Radiohead and Bright Eyes. I'm not a huge fan of all those bands but they certainly have made their place in the world of rock and will continue to be relevant for many more years.
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Influence? That's how you judge the caliber of music?
I admit the majority of the bands I listed won't ever be influential ala The Beatles but it doesn't matter to me.
SOMETHING CAN NOT BE DEAD IF IT'S AROUND AND BREATHING. Hip-hop is not dead. Rock is not dead. Country is not dead. None of it has died. Ska and Punk have shrunk considerably in popularity but they're not dead either.
If anything it is evidence that millions of people are invested in it more than ever. It lives so much that people have taken it for granted. It's the norm where as the in past it was the exception.
My argument is simply rock nor hip-hop is dead. I actually don't think it's gone downhill either...mainstream I suppose it has. I just think music businesses have discovered what the majority of consumers enjoy and marketed it that way.
I disagree about Foo Fighters and Pearl Jam. I think they've done what they've always done similar to the Rolling Stones. Poor rock music is nickleback.
I agree that Brand New and Kate Nash aren't great evidence of caliber rock music. They're fine pop music that I enjoy.
What's your list of artists from the past decade? Who do you look up to?
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its all black music anyways
How is that relative?
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its all black music anyways
How is that relative?
About as relative as him on this forum.
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A genre thats been around for 30 years against one thats been around for about 60.I would hope it would have more hits.
And modern rock is awful.Hip hop is doing better rock then rock by a long shot in the last ten years.Really,what good bands have come out lately.
Rock music is still played. I live in fuckin' Minnesota, were people prefer rock to rap any day, and even their rock stations play only rock older than 10 years. Sad, it's like rock died in 1999.
todays hip hop > mordern crap called rock. you are right rocked died in 1999. rap has alot better artist today then mordern rock . modern rock is for little brainwashed racist white boys who don't think hip hop is cool or don't want to be a called wigger..
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its all black music anyways
How is that relative?
because it helps him keep that "real hood nigga" profile.
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A genre thats been around for 30 years against one thats been around for about 60.I would hope it would have more hits.
And modern rock is awful.Hip hop is doing better rock then rock by a long shot in the last ten years.Really,what good bands have come out lately.
Rock music is still played. I live in fuckin' Minnesota, were people prefer rock to rap any day, and even their rock stations play only rock older than 10 years. Sad, it's like rock died in 1999.
todays hip hop > mordern crap called rock. you are right rocked died in 1999. rap has alot better artist today then mordern rock . modern rock is for little brainwashed racist white boys who don't think hip hop is cool or don't want to be a called wigger..
You're being a close minded bigot. You're no different from the said people you criticize. That's such a fucking stupid comment to make, what the fuck are you thinking?
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the state of all music is pretty shitty, but imo rock >>> hip hop, so wether its 80s, 90s or today, ill always go for rock more (or other genres like soul and blues (doesnt really exist today))
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lily allen music>rock
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fuck music in general. i don't give a shit what genre it is.
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A genre thats been around for 30 years against one thats been around for about 60.I would hope it would have more hits.
And modern rock is awful.Hip hop is doing better rock then rock by a long shot in the last ten years.Really,what good bands have come out lately.
Rock music is still played. I live in fuckin' Minnesota, were people prefer rock to rap any day, and even their rock stations play only rock older than 10 years. Sad, it's like rock died in 1999.
todays hip hop > mordern crap called rock. you are right rocked died in 1999. rap has alot better artist today then mordern rock . modern rock is for little brainwashed racist white boys who don't think hip hop is cool or don't want to be a called wigger..
You're being a close minded bigot. You're no different from the said people you criticize. That's such a fucking stupid comment to make, what the fuck are you thinking?
no , i am not close minded bigot like you . i am telling the truth . i only listen to classic rock & heavy metal & rockl 1999 & before . rock roll & metal went to crap . you forget i am 31 years old going on 32 in jan & that i from the best eras of music the 80's & 90's . so i know what iam talking about . todays hip hop is still better then that crap ass pop sellout sonding music called rock today. so , i am not close minded bigot like you . i am just someone who speaking the truth the rock n roll died in 1999 & sold out.so my commett was truthful commmett not stupid one liIKE what you said to me. I am, just telling the facts & the truth. it is not my fault you can't handle it.
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You're a fucking idiot and an obvious bigot in denial. You're making the said statement that you're preference is superior and being close minded.
Matter of fact you're pretty much a fucking loser - 32 and posting on forums?
lol
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Matter of fact you're pretty much a fucking loser - 32 and posting on forums?
lol
You're being close minded.
lol
I don't disagree with the thread topic, but my preference is hip hop.
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I can't understand mother fuckers criticizing hip-hop So let me get this straight, You're allowed to talk about Political Injustice, goverment beat downs when in reality you never experienced it Yet I can't sing about how the government screws me over on a daily basis, or how we face it. See that's some hypocritical shit, they want to talk about all this bullshit like it happened to them, but the moment The blacks or Mexicans started talking about it because we actually had the problem, they see is a threat because they are fakers. They never experienced how this government/media constantly portrays blacks and mexicans as nothing but some stereotype. Look in the past cartoons, look into days media, Its always there in some form.They act like goverment took them out, they never had to deal with the fact, that they Over tax us while they get breaks. See they are hypocrites.
Its alright for you to sing about Hell but I can't sing about how the Police beat me down cause I'm brown? Or cause I can't pay my bills because the only help they offer takes 2-4 years when the rent is due next week..Yet Country Stars can talk about there own problems, with there women, and life. We saying the exact same thing.Only difference they (not all) have a problem is because the mexicans and blacks the ones who truly faced this bullshit system on a every day basis are talking about it.
I'm not saying they shouldn't do what they do, but they shouldn't hate that all we talk about is "gangsters, hoes, or the hood" because that be like us hating a Country star or a Rockstar for complaining about his own problems. They talk about Injustice, You want to talk about REAL Injustice, how come you'll fucking crucify my people when we want to say the Pledge of Allegiance in Spanish, yet you have no problem with Referencing a Illegal Drug. Its bullshit, Hypocritical bullshit, and Don't expect a mother fucker to buy into yours or anyone elses way.
Cause as a mexican I know were we stand. I know for a fact if it wasn't for Ceasar Chavez, you'd still be sticking us in piss poor housing, but the situation is way bigger, and most people never want to see teh full situation. anyways, getting off track.
They can say Hip-Hop is just derived from other genres, its nothing more then a Loop. They can't say how ever its bullshit, cause its the only thing we got, its ours, it talks about our problems, its our way to express ourself. Whites already took all the black music, blues,soul,funk, and rock. Hip-Hop is the only thing the minority has.
Cause rock doesn't talk about what we see every day. Rap does, G-Funk does, I'll take any god damn N.W.A Record over Slayers Raining blood.
Now don't get me wrong, I like rock (Even like slayer lol) but I'm just saying, the way the Entire thing is, the way America Grew, how every race had there own growing process. You got 2 see its more then just a matter if the music is good or just some white guy hating on black music. Its so much bigger, The point is, they can't criticize Hip-Hop, Cause it would be a hypocrite move.
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Influence? That's how you judge the caliber of music?
Influence is a very important part of establishing a bands relevance. In 10 years time a band that is not influential will be forgotten about by all but their most die hard of fans, so yes I do think so. Name one classic band that wasn't influential at all. you'll find it's not possible. If a band is good then other people will be influenced by their music.
I disagree about Foo Fighters and Pearl Jam. I think they've done what they've always done similar to the Rolling Stones. Poor rock music is nickleback.
This is my point, they are just doing what they always do. Those bands peaked about a decade ago and even then they didn't bring anything new to the table, they are making the same album over and over again but worse. The difference between them and nickelback is not as great as you'd like to think, and infact the past few nickelback albums actuallly had a different sound than their previous albums. I'm not saying I enjoyed them, but at least they TRIED to move their sound forward, even if only a little.
What's your list of artists from the past decade? Who do you look up to?
Again this is the point I'm making, I don't feel there have been many great bands in the past decade, off the top of my head I can't think of any. The biggest band of the decade was probably Radiohead, and OK Computer was 12 years ago! Even if you think they peaked on kid a/amnesiac, that was almost 10 years ago, and those albums weren't even rock music! So what I'm saying is it's been the worst decade for rock music since it's creation and I don't see it improving anytime soon.
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By your logic it's all a step back from the classical compositions of the past. All music has been been devolving for a long time. iTt's all meaningless now!!!!!!1111 runnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111 cut my wrists there's nothign special about anythign blah blah balh
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thats not my logic at all, its a really stupid cop-out and you know it. in 10 years time do u really think there will be a new movement in rock that draws its influences from this decade? just because rock is stale and boring at the moment does not mean i beleive "ZOMG ALL TEH SONGS HAVE BEEN WRITTEN YEARS AGO! THERE IS NO NEW MUSIC". it just means that rock really is boring as hell right now and not much new is happening and in the future it may improve
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you straddle a thin line
i don't agree with your opinion that it's boring. i think it's fresh.
your argument just frustrates me. i see it in old people all the time. and if not in them in fucking elitist who i wish would be silent about said superiority
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THESE ARE ALL OPINIONS PEOPLE, THERE IS NO DEFINITIVE TRUTH WHEN IT COMES TO ART.
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all i know is i like a little bit of rock mixed wit my hip hop/rap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5yRXLs_i_w&NR=1
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You're a fucking idiot and an obvious bigot in denial. You're making the said statement that you're preference is superior and being close minded.
Matter of fact you're pretty much a fucking loser - 32 and posting on forums?
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no your the fucking idot that can't handle the truth . one i am not close minded idiot like you . so save that bullshit loser. my generation is superior to your generation & always will be . i am not being closeminded . i am just telling straight up facts aka the truth that you seem not to be handle like some loser ass spoiled cry baby. i am not 32 ,loser & so what alot of people are older then me on this forum . everyvbody older then you knows better & is better then you .grow up little boy & face the fact todays music sucks compared to 70's ,80's, & 90's & that is straight up fact . rock n roll has went to crap in 2000 & sounds so poppish. even pops groups from 70's ,80's, & 90's sound better then anything made in 200 era & that is fact. also Blasphemy & xtal are 100% right. there has been no good rock roll band in this era & that is the truth . any new rock n roll band in this era straight up sucks & that is fact.
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You're a fucking idiot and an obvious bigot in denial. You're making the said statement that you're preference is superior and being close minded.
Matter of fact you're pretty much a fucking loser - 32 and posting on forums?
lol
no your the fucking idot that can't handle the truth . one i am not close minded idiot like you . so save that bullshit loser. my generation is superior to your generation & always will be . i am not being closeminded . i am just telling straight up facts aka the truth that you seem not to be handle like some loser ass spoiled cry baby. i am not 32 ,loser & so what alot of people are older then me on this forum . everyvbody older then you knows better & is better then you .grow up little boy & face the fact todays music sucks compared to 70's ,80's, & 90's & that is straight up fact . rock n roll has went to crap in 2000 & sounds so poppish. even pops groups from 70's ,80's, & 90's sound better then anything made in 200 era & that is fact. also Blasphemy & xtal are 100% right. there has been no good rock roll band in this era & that is the truth . any new rock n roll band in this era straight up sucks & that is fact.
THESE ARE ALL OPINIONS PEOPLE, THERE IS NO DEFINITIVE TRUTH WHEN IT COMES TO ART.
SAVE YOURSELF THE ENERGY AND EMBARRASSMENT.
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You're a fucking idiot and an obvious bigot in denial. You're making the said statement that you're preference is superior and being close minded.
Matter of fact you're pretty much a fucking loser - 32 and posting on forums?
lol
no your the fucking idot that can't handle the truth . one i am not close minded idiot like you . so save that bullshit loser. my generation is superior to your generation & always will be . i am not being closeminded . i am just telling straight up facts aka the truth that you seem not to be handle like some loser ass spoiled cry baby. i am not 32 ,loser & so what alot of people are older then me on this forum . everyvbody older then you knows better & is better then you .grow up little boy & face the fact todays music sucks compared to 70's ,80's, & 90's & that is straight up fact . rock n roll has went to crap in 2000 & sounds so poppish. even pops groups from 70's ,80's, & 90's sound better then anything made in 200 era & that is fact. also Blasphemy & xtal are 100% right. there has been no good rock roll band in this era & that is the truth . any new rock n roll band in this era straight up sucks & that is fact.
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I hope you die. You're a wasting good air.
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if hip hop sucks then why are y'all addicted to this website. there's nothing but new shit on here (especially the outbound section). to everybody, you're just hypocrites. and for the record not most music (from the 60's, 70's, 80's) sounds better than most of the music put out in the past decade (that's solely an age bias decision). i betchu 50 dollars that almost half or more than half in your personal top twenty songs that you could play all day everyday was made in the past century. We have to give records like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSzA40tCZjo & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3dIP1jnu4Q&feature=related a little more time and we can see how well they stand the test of time. u can't say that every record that you heard (pre-pop hip hop era) was classic (for any genre) that's bullshit and im tired of old ass fuckers saying "we did this n that back in tha day" or it was special bcuz of this. the only reason why it was so special then was bcuz music on ALL fronts was still/and is still evolving (james brown back in the day, lil' jon now).
someone should start a website for old people who still like hip hop. nobody wants to re-live the 80's and personally i think music today in 2009 is better sonically than anything done before (and obviously that doesnt go 4 everybody but quiet a few). did anybody see that picture of Kid Capri (shouldn't he change his name by now) and his folks. they all look like they've been watching their prostate very recently. its past due that we move on. only in america are people allowed to bitch this much.
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if hip hop sucks then why are y'all addicted to this website. there's nothing but new shit on here (especially the outbound section). to everybody, you're just hypocrites. and for the record not most music (from the 60's, 70's, 80's) sounds better than most of the music put out in the past decade (that's solely an age bias decision). i betchu 50 dollars that almost half or more than half in your personal top twenty songs that you could play all day everyday was made in the past century. We have to give records like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSzA40tCZjo & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3dIP1jnu4Q&feature=related a little more time and we can see how well they stand the test of time. u can't say that every record that you heard (pre-pop hip hop era) was classic (for any genre) that's bullshit and im tired of old ass fuckers saying "we did this n that back in tha day" or it was special bcuz of this. the only reason why it was so special then was bcuz music on ALL fronts was still/and is still evolving (james brown back in the day, lil' jon now).
someone should start a website for old people who still like hip hop. nobody wants to re-live the 80's and personally i think music today in 2009 is better sonically than anything done before (and obviously that doesnt go 4 everybody but quiet a few). did anybody see that picture of Kid Capri (shouldn't he change his name by now) and his folks. they all look like they've been watching their prostate very recently. its past due that we move on. only in america are people allowed to bitch this much.
i see what your saying & i can understand it ,kick . that was very well done & very open minded of you but 30 is not old . most of today top hip hop artist are 30 years or older . being old is being 50 years old not being 30 years old. also hip hop was the 70's & 80'generation not yours first
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LOL at the two worst posters on the forum finding love for eachother.All we need is love33 to become friends wit these idiots as well
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You're a fucking idiot and an obvious bigot in denial. You're making the said statement that you're preference is superior and being close minded.
Matter of fact you're pretty much a fucking loser - 32 and posting on forums?
lol
no your the fucking idot that can't handle the truth . one i am not close minded idiot like you . so save that bullshit loser. my generation is superior to your generation & always will be . i am not being closeminded . i am just telling straight up facts aka the truth that you seem not to be handle like some loser ass spoiled cry baby. i am not 32 ,loser & so what alot of people are older then me on this forum . everyvbody older then you knows better & is better then you .grow up little boy & face the fact todays music sucks compared to 70's ,80's, & 90's & that is straight up fact . rock n roll has went to crap in 2000 & sounds so poppish. even pops groups from 70's ,80's, & 90's sound better then anything made in 200 era & that is fact. also Blasphemy & xtal are 100% right. there has been no good rock roll band in this era & that is the truth . any new rock n roll band in this era straight up sucks & that is fact.
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I hope you die. You're a wasting good air.
will never die. go to hell , you & your cancerous generation with you closemind ignorance & disrespct for older genration . you are embrassment to world & human life . you are waste of human life . so little boy who can't handle the truth & just proved how ignorant he was by saying he hoped i would die . this just shows how much of big loser you are & how much of intermet bitch you are. in real life you would never have the balls to say that to my face because you are internet wankster .your are pathetic & just make me more right about your generations disrepct for older generations who made the way for you & your generation . without my generation & the generation before that there would be no hip hop at all.
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Get the fuck over yourself and end your life while you still can. There's a baby out there that needs to breath more than you do.
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Get the fuck over yourself and end your life while you still can. There's a baby out there that needs to breath more than you do.
no i want be gay like you . why should i end my life for a pathetic joke of human lifeform like you . please world would be so much better place without your kind . grow up little boy because everytime you speak it is pathetic & just shows how pathetic you are . anybody wishing death on someone is a lowlife & pathetic ass loser. my generation is not part of the problem with the world today it is your & you just proved it more. you just show how you are ignorant closeminded child who need his ass whoop by his parents.
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Right! You're logic is superb. "My generation", whichever one that might be, has caused all of the problems. We're the sinners who brought hell upon the earth. Everything was innocent and dandy until "my generation" was born. As soon as we came from the womb all the problems started. This entire issue has nothing to do with respect for elders. That argument is a totally random point you brought into this conversation and it is moot. This has nothing to do with disrespect to elders. The argument I pitched from the get go was in defense of modern music not being stale and dead. I never said the past was bad. I said there's a bias. But, the idiot and bigot you are can't read. Additionally, you can barely type a complete sentence. I hope you're not actually 32 because I feel sorry for you.
Seriously, you're logic and perspective on life is fucked up. You need help cause at this current state there is an innocent baby out there that deserves to live more than you. You're not bringing anything to the table. You're a hater that's stuck in the past. Is a comment like this a diss to the past? No, it's a reflection of your idiotic mentality.
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if hip hop sucks then why are y'all addicted to this website. there's nothing but new shit on here (especially the outbound section). to everybody, you're just hypocrites. and for the record not most music (from the 60's, 70's, 80's) sounds better than most of the music put out in the past decade (that's solely an age bias decision). i betchu 50 dollars that almost half or more than half in your personal top twenty songs that you could play all day everyday was made in the past century. We have to give records like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSzA40tCZjo & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3dIP1jnu4Q&feature=related a little more time and we can see how well they stand the test of time. u can't say that every record that you heard (pre-pop hip hop era) was classic (for any genre) that's bullshit and im tired of old ass fuckers saying "we did this n that back in tha day" or it was special bcuz of this. the only reason why it was so special then was bcuz music on ALL fronts was still/and is still evolving (james brown back in the day, lil' jon now).
someone should start a website for old people who still like hip hop. nobody wants to re-live the 80's and personally i think music today in 2009 is better sonically than anything done before (and obviously that doesnt go 4 everybody but quiet a few). did anybody see that picture of Kid Capri (shouldn't he change his name by now) and his folks. they all look like they've been watching their prostate very recently. its past due that we move on. only in america are people allowed to bitch this much.
i see what your saying & i can understand it ,kick . that was very well done & very open minded of you but 30 is not old . most of today top hip hop artist are 30 years or older . being old is being 50 years old not being 30 years old. also hip hop was the 70's & 80'generation not yours first
i never said that and i hope it stays that way (but when you get to 45/ 50, then i think u should be lookin for a different route, like KRS-1 should b doing). and dont go lookng 4 an opposition all of time (most of u do). read wat tha fuck im saying and hav something to add not take away.
and no1 can respect a grown ass man who spends his days on a forum talking about how hip hop was this n that in YOUR glory days. to all nay-sayers, go find a preacher or a shrink... you need help, no bullshit.
* i edited my quoted post too
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you straddle a thin line
i don't agree with your opinion that it's boring. i think it's fresh.
your argument just frustrates me. i see it in old people all the time. and if not in them in fucking elitist who i wish would be silent about said superiority
my argument is just my opinion and it's very different from old people and elitists. i love music and think it would be great to hear about bands doing great music today, however the bands you listed are ones that i am very familiar with. regardless whether you agree with my opinion or not, those bands havent done anything new at all, not in the past decade anyway. i dont see how you can even attempt to debate that. you may enjoy those bands, and some of them i do too. the difference is i am under no illusions that it's not just more of the same
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Lyrically hip hop has vastly improved from the 70s and 80s. Production-wise as well. I don't see how you can think otherwise.
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Lyrically hip hop has vastly improved from the 70s and 80s. Production-wise as well. I don't see how you can think otherwise.
While this is true, only a few rappers have remained Lyrical front runners even after the original impact forced everyone 2 improve. Southern rap pretty much destroys lyrical emphasize with it repeating the same words over and over....
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I hate to kick a dead horse, but if Little Richard, Chuck Berry and Elvis are Rock and Creed, Nickelback, and Korn are Rock, then why aren't Nas, Jay Z, and Kanye Rock?
A lot of people rag on me for saying hip hop is rock but can anyone answer my question? How is Korn a album more similar to a Chuck Berry album a than Nas album is?
What is Rock and Roll? Is it only the late 50s, and early 60s stuff? People need to stop labeling shit. Staying Alive is Disco, but Billie Jean is pop, while Another Bites the Dust is rock, but all three songs sound very similar to my ears.
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Lyrically hip hop has vastly improved from the 70s and 80s. Production-wise as well. I don't see how you can think otherwise.
While this is true, only a few rappers have remained Lyrical front runners even after the original impact forced everyone 2 improve. Southern rap pretty much destroys lyrical emphasize with it repeating the same words over and over....
I completely disagree. You might feel that way if you listen to mostly mainstream music, but take into mind that the "mainstream" is a very small percentage of hip hop music overall. There's really only about 10 rap songs getting airplay at any given moment, meanwhile the number of rappers putting out music is in the hundreds, maybe even thousands. Underground music might not get much attention, but as far as numbers it has far more artists putting out music.
People want to act like there wasn't bad music coming out in the 70s, 80s and 90s, when in fact there were many mediocre artists. The girls from JJ Fad weren't any better at rapping than Soulja Boy is. Kris Kross? Tag Team? I could name tons more if I wanted to waste time looking up crappy pop singles that everyone has forgotten. The fact is that catchy pop songs were churned out year after year, the reason everyone forgets that is because they didn't make any noticeable impact and they didn't have lasting appeal.
Every week I post a dope album released this year that I have checked out and the thread gets zero responses. How can someone claim hip hop isn't thriving when they haven't even heard of most of the albums released?
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Lyrically hip hop has vastly improved from the 70s and 80s. Production-wise as well. I don't see how you can think otherwise.
While this is true, only a few rappers have remained Lyrical front runners even after the original impact forced everyone 2 improve. Southern rap pretty much destroys lyrical emphasize with it repeating the same words over and over....
I completely disagree. You might feel that way if you listen to mostly mainstream music, but take into mind that the "mainstream" is a very small percentage of hip hop music overall. There's really only about 10 rap songs getting airplay at any given moment, meanwhile the number of rappers putting out music is in the hundreds, maybe even thousands. Underground music might not get much attention, but as far as numbers it has far more artists putting out music.
People want to act like there wasn't bad music coming out in the 70s, 80s and 90s, when in fact there were many mediocre artists. The girls from JJ Fad weren't any better at rapping than Soulja Boy is. Kris Kross? Tag Team? I could name tons more if I wanted to waste time looking up crappy pop singles that everyone has forgotten. The fact is that catchy pop songs were churned out year after year, the reason everyone forgets that is because they didn't make any noticeable impact and they didn't have lasting appeal.
Every week I post a dope album released this year that I have checked out and the thread gets zero responses. How can someone claim hip hop isn't thriving when they haven't even heard of most of the albums released?
The mainstream is an even smaller percentage for what the board deems as Rock. There are 4 and 5 piece bands all over the world putting out amazing albums and no one hears them.
Just off the top of my head, amazing albums I've been listening to these past few years
The Hold Steady - Boys and Girls in America
Josh Ritter - The Historical Conquests of Josh Ritter
Gaslight Anthem - The 59 Sound
The Greenhornes - Sewed Souls
The Reigning Sound - Time Bomb Highschool
Tim Brantley - Goldtop Heights
Ben Kweller - Ben Keller
Marah - If You Didn't Laugh, You'd Cry
Titus Andronicus - The Airing of Grievances