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// 50 Cent is working on new studio album "Before I Self Distruct" with Eminem
// Release date expected late Spring 2007
// 50 Cent has contacted Jay-Z for a collab on new album; wants Jay-Z to lay a verse and fellow Queen's rapper Nas to lay 16 bars.
// Cam'ron has dissed Eminem (Pour Your 40 Out Video), 50 Cent (Hot 97), Jay-Z (Roc-A-Fella) and Nas (Signing to Def Jam and siding Jay-Z).
// 50 Cent wants all 4 heavyweights to collab on a track subjecting on wack rappers (Indirect punches at Camron?) having no rights to lay their 2 cents on the All-Stars.
//Another album marketing tactic used by 50 Cent. Using rap beefs and have people talking about it.
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Do you even read the articles you post, before you put a topic title above them?
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Sometimes yes, sometimes no.
Whats wrong with this one ?
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Oh shit, nevermind about all of that. The second point distracted me from reading the fifth, so you're actually right :D I'm sorry mayne!
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No prob. So your thoght on the possible collabo ?
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50 Cent wants all 4 heavyweights to collab on a track subjecting on wack rappers (Indirect punches at Camron?) having no rights to lay their 2 cents on the All-Stars.
I don't get it.. 50 Cent is even more wack
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Well... If they're doing it strictly to diss Cam'ron, that would be disastrous. Other than that, of course, we're talking about four legends collaborating, so it should be good. However, I could see 50, Jay or Eminem totally fucking this up. This isn't a guaranteed classic on forehand...
50 Cent wants all 4 heavyweights to collab on a track subjecting on wack rappers (Indirect punches at Camron?) having no rights to lay their 2 cents on the All-Stars.
I don't get it.. 50 Cent is even more wack
Well, they consider themselves untouchable All-Stars, or at least that's what 50 considers them. However, I just don't see Nas cooperating with 50's childish proposition.
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50 and Nas never really had a serious beef, its just 50s ego because of that J.Lo song. Now that Nas is with Jay anything could happen.
BTW appranetly they announced on Shade45 that Ice Cube will be on the album too.
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50 and Nas never really had a serious beef, its just 50s ego because of that J.Lo song. Now that Nas is with Jay anything could happen.
I know their beef wasn't that serious, but do you recognise the significant differences between 50 and Nas?
Nas is saying he respects 50 for his hustle and all, but at the same time Nas sort of puts 50 in the category of those who are the biggest causes for the current state of hiphop. Nas is the one saying all this beefing shit needs to stop. Nas is the one calling for growth. So what makes you think Nas would want to collaborate with 50 on a song that will only cause more trouble? After all, 50's intentions for this track are basically opposed to Nas' goals of creating more unity. 50 is intending to use the song to showcase his cockiness...
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I thought we've been through this before. Nas has a bipolar character. ;D
Considering the fact that his beef with Jay was way more serious and we all know on which label he's on, its quie possible. And 50 and Nas collabing would go with the whole "lets unite" thingy you pointed out ;)
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I thought we've been through this before. Nas has a bipolar character. ;D
Considering the fact that his beef with Jay was way more serious and we all know on which label he's on, its quie possible. And 50 and Nas collabing would go with the whole "lets unite" thingy you pointed out ;)
Let's not forget:
1) A news article on the website of a radio station doesn't exactly make the content official.
2) Nas hasn't confirmed anything yet. It just tells you 50 wants Nas on his album.
3) You have yet to prove the truth behind the bipolar character you keep accusing Nas of having...
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Sounds dope to me. That is a legendary posse cuts, just hope if it's true it's lives up to the hype. Now just let Dre do the beat and they set. The Ice Cube rumor sounds dope also.
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Prodigy will be pissed if 50 and Nas do a track together because didn't Prodigy recently diss Nas again?
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If this REALLY IS happening:
1.I know Nas is gonna come correct, no doubt about it
2.I sure hope at least one of the other three puts effort in it, and if that doesn't happen, I don't think Nas could save that track alone
But that's only speculation, like said above, we haven't had a real confirmation for this
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If this REALLY IS happening:
1.I know Nas is gonna come correct, no doubt about it
2.I sure hope at least one of the other three puts effort in it, and if that doesn't happen, I don't think Nas could save that track alone
But that's only speculation, like said above, we haven't had a real confirmation for this
Problem is, no matter how 'legendary' the status of the other 3 is, apart from Nas they all have the potential to fuck this up badly. I'm somewhat sceptical.
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The only thing i'm questioning is if 50 can put Nas on his album, why wouldn't he let Nas get on the LL track (on L's forthcoming album) that's supposed to feature Queen's greatest mcs?
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He said that 2 months ago, things might have changed.
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The only thing i'm questioning is if 50 can put Nas on his album, why wouldn't he let Nas get on the LL track (on L's forthcoming album) that's supposed to feature Queen's greatest mcs?
please tell me that no G-Unit rapper is gonna be on that song. if 50´s on the song they might aswell scrap it coz he´s not even a top 20 MC when it comes to Queens.
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If they all bring their best it would be incredible, but that won't happen.
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LOL @ 50. This negro knows his name alone isn't gonna bring on the sales of his prior albums so he's trying to lock down the biggest guest spots to try and push his album. What a pussy. Honest to god I couldn't give a fuck if I ever heard this song anyway. Jay sucks, Em sucks, 50 beyond sucks, Nas will bring something to the table but I don't see it being enough to distract me from all the other clowns on this track. Outside of Nas, this is the real "Legend Of The Fall Offs" track.
Sounds to me like 50's tryin to copy the Nas / Kanye / KRS / Rakim / Primo joint.
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Cam dissed Em??
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LOL @ 50. This negro knows his name alone isn't gonna bring on the sales of his prior albums so he's trying to lock down the biggest guest spots to try and push his album. What a pussy. Honest to god I couldn't give a fuck if I ever heard this song anyway. Jay sucks, Em sucks, 50 beyond sucks, Nas will bring something to the table but I don't see it being enough to distract me from all the other clowns on this track. Outside of Nas, this is the real "Legend Of The Fall Offs" track.
Sounds to me like 50's tryin to copy the Nas / Kanye / KRS / Rakim / Primo joint.
Wow, you just can give this dude a break. I mean, what has he done to you. Your acting like you have some personal beef, your taking this way too seriously.
People are complaining about 50 not working outside his camp, not that he does people are complaing again. I bet that if 50 did a track with Krs One, Rakim and Nas you'd find an angle to diss him again :loser:
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Jay, Em, Nas, and 50 on a Dre produced track would atomatically be classic, you don't think they won't all bring their A game, tho 50 might be the one to be the weakest link, plus a topic like dissing wack rappers would be real easy to make a song about, I'd support it even tho I don't respect 50 as much as I did since GRODT, I would be mad stoked on this track but I think it would be hard to get all their egos in the same studio, let's just hope, Hip Hop needs this
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LOL @ 50. This negro knows his name alone isn't gonna bring on the sales of his prior albums so he's trying to lock down the biggest guest spots to try and push his album. What a pussy. Honest to god I couldn't give a fuck if I ever heard this song anyway. Jay sucks, Em sucks, 50 beyond sucks, Nas will bring something to the table but I don't see it being enough to distract me from all the other clowns on this track. Outside of Nas, this is the real "Legend Of The Fall Offs" track.
Sounds to me like 50's tryin to copy the Nas / Kanye / KRS / Rakim / Primo joint.
Wow, you just can give this dude a break. I mean, what has he done to you. Your acting like you have some personal beef, your taking this way too seriously.
People are complaining about 50 not working outside his camp, not that he does people are complaing again. I bet that if 50 did a track with Krs One, Rakim and Nas you'd find an angle to diss him again :loser:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're so obsessed with 50 that you're becoming delusional. What did I say as a personal diss toward 50? I said he sucks as a rapper (just like I did Jigga & Em). You somehow interpret that into me having a personal beef? 50 could put out an album with him sucking dick for 70 minutes and you'd praise it as a banger. But hey at least you're not ducking my posts anymore.
Who in the fuck complained about 50 not working outside his camp? Or is that just another one of your baseless statements that you make in nearly every thread, where you make a lame attempt at rehashing an arguement that you read on some G-Unit board?
If anything 50 gets props for staying within his clique for features because every other fuckin mainstream album has dozens of collabs because the "artist" isn't heavy enough to hold down an album by themselves. Now that he's trying to get the biggest names on here just proves that he's having doubts about carrying an entire album by himself and maintaining the success he's had. He's scared. He needs some other heavy hitters to help him sell. I know it's painful for you to hear and I'm sure you won't accept it, but it's the truth.
Again, I have 0% interest in hearing Em, Jay, and 50 on a track together. Every one of those guys put out the wackest shit of their careers for their last album.
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You keep overanalzing everthing 50 does, youre writing esseys about his every single move :-X
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Timbo the king = king, wassup homie! :D
50 always got smth going on!
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Timbo the king = king, wassup homie! :D
50 always got smth going on!
Sup 8) Still chating on mirc ?
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You keep overanalzing everthing 50 does, youre writing esseys about his every single move :-X
That's only because you keep posting new topics about his every single move :D
"Oh no! 50 got his TV repaired today!"
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The difference is im a fan and its normal to post news of an artist you like but considering "50 is wack, he fell off years ago" to Jrome I have no idea why all the long posts about someone you apparantley dont care.
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The difference is im a fan and its normal to post news of an artist you like but considering "50 is wack, he fell off years ago" to Jrome I have no idea why all the long posts about someone you apparantley dont care.
But wait, is it wrong to care about hiphop? And would it be wrong to point out the mistakes in somebody's reasoning concerning 'good hiphop'?
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wow Jrome, i didn't know you didn't like Eminem. Dude is a monster.
I don't like Jay at all but I can not deny that he can come tight almost at will.
50 cent...same thing...dude has talent. he's just made alot of whack shit recently. alot of it.
The song would be dope.
whoah when did
Nas / Kanye / KRS / Rakim / Primo do a track? where is it at? what was it released on? who's album? come on i gotta hear this, can someone hook it up?
and for the record timbo tends to duck my posts still.
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whoah when did
Nas / Kanye / KRS / Rakim / Primo do a track? where is it at? what was it released on? who's album? come on i gotta hear this, can someone hook it up?
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=137443
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LOL @ 50. This negro knows his name alone isn't gonna bring on the sales of his prior albums so he's trying to lock down the biggest guest spots to try and push his album. What a pussy. Honest to god I couldn't give a fuck if I ever heard this song anyway. Jay sucks, Em sucks, 50 beyond sucks, Nas will bring something to the table but I don't see it being enough to distract me from all the other clowns on this track. Outside of Nas, this is the real "Legend Of The Fall Offs" track.
Sounds to me like 50's tryin to copy the Nas / Kanye / KRS / Rakim / Primo joint.
boo hoo
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You keep overanalzing everthing 50 does, youre writing esseys about his every single move :-X
That's what losers say when they have no arguement.
You think that was an essay? That shit took all of 3 minutes. I didn't even get started homeboy.
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The difference is im a fan and its normal to post news of an artist you like but considering "50 is wack, he fell off years ago" to Jrome I have no idea why all the long posts about someone you apparantley dont care.
Dog Im fan of Hip Hop. I talk about everything I like and everything I don't like. I post in all kinds of different topics concerning it. It's a fucking message board. If it bothers you when somebody says something bad about your hero then quit posting here.
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wow Jrome, i didn't know you didn't like Eminem. Dude is a monster.
I don't like Jay at all but I can not deny that he can come tight almost at will.
50 cent...same thing...dude has talent. he's just made alot of whack shit recently. alot of it.
The song would be dope.
whoah when did
Nas / Kanye / KRS / Rakim / Primo do a track? where is it at? what was it released on? who's album? come on i gotta hear this, can someone hook it up?
and for the record timbo tends to duck my posts still.
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Well don't get me twisted man, in his prime Eminem should be considered one of the all time greats. You're 100% right, he was an animal. And I honestly believe he's still got it in him, but he's not nearly as driven as he used to be. From an artistic standpoint, the worst thing that ever happened to Em was him getting his respect and props from his contemporaries. I think he was really driven to prove how good he was, so he put everything into each line he wrote. After people acknowledged his genius, he didn't really have to prove anything and it really showed on Encore. So my statement about not wanting to hear him on a track is due to the types of joints he's been doing for the last couple of years. He just hasn't done ANYTHING for me, whereas his first 3 major releases found me rewinding his verses over and over till i knew them top to bottom.
As far as Jay - I don't like the juxtaposition of the artist / pres of def jam. People are so distracted by the bright lights, Beyonce, big name producers, phony ass retirement, etc. that they failed to see how crappy Kingdom Come was. It was so lame and corny. Even more than that, i think he's dumbed down his flow and delivery way too much.
And 50, he's done really nothing since GRODT. He's coasted off the mega success of that album (which was the result of Dre's beat more than 50). Dude has been wack for like 4 years.
But don't get me wrong, all 3 of those dudes have gotten 100's of spins from me. It just so happens that everything they've all done in the last couple years has been extremely wack and I hold them to that. I don't understand why so many people constantly give them a pass. It's like people have been bombarded with so much wack bullshit that they don't even know it's wack. They've been conditioned to it.
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JRome, breaking kid's hearts in the deuce to the double o nickle plus two pennies.
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Well don't get me twisted man, in his prime Eminem should be considered one of the all time greats. You're 100% right, he was an animal. And I honestly believe he's still got it in him, but he's not nearly as driven as he used to be. From an artistic standpoint, the worst thing that ever happened to Em was him getting his respect and props from his contemporaries. I think he was really driven to prove how good he was, so he put everything into each line he wrote. After people acknowledged his genius, he didn't really have to prove anything and it really showed on Encore. So my statement about not wanting to hear him on a track is due to the types of joints he's been doing for the last couple of years. He just hasn't done ANYTHING for me, whereas his first 3 major releases found me rewinding his verses over and over till i knew them top to bottom.
As far as Jay - I don't like the juxtaposition of the artist / pres of def jam. People are so distracted by the bright lights, Beyonce, big name producers, phony ass retirement, etc. that they failed to see how crappy Kingdom Come was. It was so lame and corny. Even more than that, i think he's dumbed down his flow and delivery way too much.
And 50, he's done really nothing since GRODT. He's coasted off the mega success of that album (which was the result of Dre's beat more than 50). Dude has been wack for like 4 years.
But don't get me wrong, all 3 of those dudes have gotten 100's of spins from me. It just so happens that everything they've all done in the last couple years has been extremely wack and I hold them to that. I don't understand why so many people constantly give them a pass. It's like people have been bombarded with so much wack bullshit that they don't even know it's wack. They've been conditioned to it.
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I think your 100% on point with everything you said there....first of all I dont think 50 has any talent that puts him above any other artist except he's got a smooth flow and hes a decent song writer...which both of those only go so far for me personally. But as far as Em and Jay...a friend a mine is obsessed with Jay and he likes the Re-up and he can't understand why I dont like either of they're new albums. I can't really listen to any Eminem anymore especcially cause to me its like, if you go to Mcdonalds you expect Mcdonalds level food. But if I'm goin to a restaraunt that for years has been servin me some gourmet shit and then all the suddenly they start giving me mcdonalds type food...chances are I'm gonna completely stop goin there even though I don't dislike mcdonalds at all. No matter what when I listen to Eminem or Jay-Z I cant help but expect what they're capable of, and if they don't bring it I'm going to be a little irratated.
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50 and Nas never really had a serious beef, its just 50s ego because of that J.Lo song. Now that Nas is with Jay anything could happen.
I know their beef wasn't that serious, but do you recognise the significant differences between 50 and Nas?
Nas is saying he respects 50 for his hustle and all, but at the same time Nas sort of puts 50 in the category of those who are the biggest causes for the current state of hiphop. Nas is the one saying all this beefing shit needs to stop. Nas is the one calling for growth. So what makes you think Nas would want to collaborate with 50 on a song that will only cause more trouble? After all, 50's intentions for this track are basically opposed to Nas' goals of creating more unity. 50 is intending to use the song to showcase his cockiness...
Do you really think that nas wants more unity? nah man, he wants real hiphop back, and there used to be a time where classics came out and people was dissing, dissing other rappers always has been a part of hiphop, like it or not, but not for commercial purposes but more for the state of the art, as i like to call it, i dunno, maybe nas gets on te song....maybe not, chances are 50 ;)
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sounds like some "we are the world" type shit. are part of the proceeds gonna go to UNICEF?
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lol @ mufuggas getting all sensitive
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50 and Nas never really had a serious beef, its just 50s ego because of that J.Lo song. Now that Nas is with Jay anything could happen.
I know their beef wasn't that serious, but do you recognise the significant differences between 50 and Nas?
Nas is saying he respects 50 for his hustle and all, but at the same time Nas sort of puts 50 in the category of those who are the biggest causes for the current state of hiphop. Nas is the one saying all this beefing shit needs to stop. Nas is the one calling for growth. So what makes you think Nas would want to collaborate with 50 on a song that will only cause more trouble? After all, 50's intentions for this track are basically opposed to Nas' goals of creating more unity. 50 is intending to use the song to showcase his cockiness...
Do you really think that nas wants more unity? nah man, he wants real hiphop back, and there used to be a time where classics came out and people was dissing, dissing other rappers always has been a part of hiphop, like it or not, but not for commercial purposes but more for the state of the art, as i like to call it, i dunno, maybe nas gets on te song....maybe not, chances are 50 ;)
Shit man, I haven't propped you in a couple days and now look where your karma has gone :o
+1 because you're right, although I do see things differently. Nas wants to restore hip-hop, and that is something that does require some sort of unity: it requires respect. That's not something you'll gain through random dissing. Of course, beef has been part of hip-hop for a long time and it has given us some of the most noteworthy moments in hiphop history. A bunch of legends jumping on a track together to show off how good they are (or more realistically, how much they've fallen off) does little or nothing to improve the state of hiphop, which Nas claims to be so worried about. If, however, Nas ends up on this track and randomly starts dissing people or acting cornier than my breakfast cereals, I'll agree with TTK for the very first time: that would truly be proof of his 'bipolar character'. Good thing is, I just can't see it happening. Not like that.
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50 and Nas never really had a serious beef, its just 50s ego because of that J.Lo song. Now that Nas is with Jay anything could happen.
I know their beef wasn't that serious, but do you recognise the significant differences between 50 and Nas?
Nas is saying he respects 50 for his hustle and all, but at the same time Nas sort of puts 50 in the category of those who are the biggest causes for the current state of hiphop. Nas is the one saying all this beefing shit needs to stop. Nas is the one calling for growth. So what makes you think Nas would want to collaborate with 50 on a song that will only cause more trouble? After all, 50's intentions for this track are basically opposed to Nas' goals of creating more unity. 50 is intending to use the song to showcase his cockiness...
Do you really think that nas wants more unity? nah man, he wants real hiphop back, and there used to be a time where classics came out and people was dissing, dissing other rappers always has been a part of hiphop, like it or not, but not for commercial purposes but more for the state of the art, as i like to call it, i dunno, maybe nas gets on te song....maybe not, chances are 50 ;)
Shit man, I haven't propped you in a couple days and now look where your karma has gone :o
+1 because you're right, although I do see things differently. Nas wants to restore hip-hop, and that is something that does require some sort of unity: it requires respect. That's not something you'll gain through random dissing. Of course, beef has been part of hip-hop for a long time and it has given us some of the most noteworthy moments in hiphop history. A bunch of legends jumping on a track together to show off how good they are (or more realistically, how much they've fallen off) does little or nothing to improve the state of hiphop, which Nas claims to be so worried about. If, however, Nas ends up on this track and randomly starts dissing people or acting cornier than my breakfast cereals, I'll agree with TTK for the very first time: that would truly be proof of his 'bipolar character'. Good thing is, I just can't see it happening. Not like that.
yeah man, thanx, theres def a lot of haters who dont wanna expose themselves, i have no idea who is dissing me with the karma, but they clearlym ust be really upset about me, goddayum, i love the drama 8)
+1 to you too, i respect your opinion, i hope its true though, cause you get more unity in the game when the big stars give the right example, hopefully many other rappers will follow their lead....
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I thought we've been through this before. Nas has a bipolar character. ;D
Considering the fact that his beef with Jay was way more serious and we all know on which label he's on, its quie possible. And 50 and Nas collabing would go with the whole "lets unite" thingy you pointed out ;)
Let's not forget:
1) A news article on the website of a radio station doesn't exactly make the content official.
2) Nas hasn't confirmed anything yet. It just tells you 50 wants Nas on his album.
3) You have yet to prove the truth behind the bipolar character you keep accusing Nas of having...
as far as the radio stations website goes...i've never heard kube report any news that wasn't true...granted its been3 or 4 years since i've listened to kube....but thats just about all i listened to for like 10 years straight
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jay would just muder the track like he did the 'get-by' remix
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whats all the fuss about karma mang, i couldnt give a fuck if niggaz be hittin the dissin tag al day long on me...i just props cats, no need to diss a nigga,haha
peace!
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What did Cam say about the Eminem video?
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what eminem video?
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