West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Tanjential on April 06, 2007, 12:08:25 AM
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None of the albums are whack. There are whack songs certainly, but the albums as a whole, to me, are over-all good. more than half the songs on all the albums are at least good to me
dogg food-classic
DYG-seriously, take off 'work dat pussy' and this is a west coast classic on the level of TSIAM
DYGII-the production on this is remarkably effective in its g funk and there are alot of cool songs. some of the best chick songs the pound has done is on here. 'i luv it when u', 'u remind me', 'make me a believer' are all dope. dpgc muzick and 'donuts in the street' are straight classic.
CIA-I was shocked at how good this was after yall trashed it so bad. seriously, the only whack song is the Paul wall one and it's not even Paul wall's verse, it's the production that is horrible on this song, as well as the chorus. even though the david banner song is simple, it's not bad. I would really like the puffy song if puffy didn't have vocals in it and snoop wasn't cooing 'bad boy' throughout.
there is alot of HEEEEEAT on this record. it's crazy dope to hear the pound over high budget producers again. the lack of daz production doesn't bother me because there's already SOOOOO much daz produced dogg pound that the new style is a cool thing.
Kurupt is AT LEAST as dope lyrically on CIA as he is on any other recent DP record. did you guys not hear 'Keepin' it gangsta' prod. by soopafly on this shit? Kurupt goes to fuckin' WAR on that song! and that's just one of a handful that he rips up like that on CIA alone.
Dogg chit- I still say 10-12 of the tracks are bangers and 'where u from', 'good azz day', 'anybody killa', 'vibe', and a few others are ridiculously ridiculously tight classics.
anyway, there's something in album reviews that always pisses me off about DP. whenever someone that's not into rap a dogg pound album like dogg food, or CIA they always say some shit like "Unfortunately snoop isn't on the album as much as the cover and single would lead you to believe and this is actually a daz kurupt record" like it's a bad thing and the need snoop to keep an album afloat and shit. this is absolutely ridiculous to me, especially considering how much snoop IS on those records. Snoop is ALLLLLL over CIA and he drops dope shit and for reviewers to act like more snoop is necessary is an insult to hip hop to me.
after talking with you cats for the last several months, I am amazed that DYG2 and CIA are so good. I was expecting absolute horseshit. you cats are ridiculously harsh, shit what do you guys think is GOOD and where can I get some of that shit.
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I call them one of the best duo's in rap history. The way they flow off of one another is uncanny and like no other. They have released 4 albums that were at least solid.
Daz has made his mark on the game as a producer and rapper, even though he is a bit of an underdog.
As for Kurupt, he is my favorite Westcoast rapper of all time, even still with the drop off in lyrics. Once Kurupt went to DR again, his lyrics fell off mostly due to lack of inspiration. I can't imagine Death Row as having a postitive vibe. I still think his voice and flow is among the best, and he improved his lyrics very much on Dogg Chit. Most of his verses still have no struture to them, but he's still spitting.
The most frustrating thing about tha Dogg Pound is that they split up at a time where DPG as a unit was the strongest it had ever been. While it's all well and good that they are back toegther making good music, they wasted 4 years on this beef, when both artist were probably in there prime.
I'll still probably always check for pretty much any further Dogg Pound projects, Daz or Kurupt solos alike.
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I call them one of the best duo's in rap history. The way they flow off of one another is uncanny and like no other. They have released 4 albums that were at least solid.
Daz has made his mark on the game as a producer and rapper, even though he is a bit of an underdog.
As for Kurupt, he is my favorite Westcoast rapper of all time, even still with the drop off in lyrics. Once Kurupt went to DR again, his lyrics fell off mostly due to lack of inspiration. I can't imagine Death Row as having a postitive vibe. I still think his voice and flow is among the best, and he improved his lyrics very much on Dogg Chit. Most of his verses still have no struture to them, but he's still spitting.
The most frustrating thing about tha Dogg Pound is that they split up at a time where DPG as a unit was the strongest it had ever been. While it's all well and good that they are back toegther making good music, they wasted 4 years on this beef, when both artist were probably in there prime.
I'll still probably always check for pretty much any further Dogg Pound projects, Daz or Kurupt solos alike.
not that this is a diss to you, but it's always infuriated me when people call Daz an underdog, he produced a gang of mid nineties hits for Snoop and Pac as well as making a bunch of sicktacular album tracks.
furthermore, Kurupt never lost inspiration per se. whenever he writes a verse it is the shit, but I believe that he has freestyled 96% of his post death row work. I think he wrote less than 10 songs on SIAM, and from there less and less. I think we could count on 4-5 discs ABSOLUTE tops every song Kurupt actually wrote his verses too. i think the VAAAAST majority of Kurupt's work is freestyled, not based on quality but based on the way the verses come out. they often have a 'searching for words' feel to them. sidenote, Jay Z is known for doing this and they are both Saggitarius.
furthermore, Kurupt is my favorite rapper period and it pisses me off that he doesn't write more.
what pisses me off about the beef is that right before the beef daz and snoop were not working together and as soon as Kurupt left snoop and daz started to work together again. they all 3 needed to be doing shit always and to think otherwise is ridiculous.
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I call them one of the best duo's in rap history. The way they flow off of one another is uncanny and like no other. They have released 4 albums that were at least solid.
Daz has made his mark on the game as a producer and rapper, even though he is a bit of an underdog.
As for Kurupt, he is my favorite Westcoast rapper of all time, even still with the drop off in lyrics. Once Kurupt went to DR again, his lyrics fell off mostly due to lack of inspiration. I can't imagine Death Row as having a postitive vibe. I still think his voice and flow is among the best, and he improved his lyrics very much on Dogg Chit. Most of his verses still have no struture to them, but he's still spitting.
The most frustrating thing about tha Dogg Pound is that they split up at a time where DPG as a unit was the strongest it had ever been. While it's all well and good that they are back toegther making good music, they wasted 4 years on this beef, when both artist were probably in there prime.
I'll still probably always check for pretty much any further Dogg Pound projects, Daz or Kurupt solos alike.
not that this is a diss to you, but it's always infuriated me when people call Daz an underdog, he produced a gang of mid nineties hits for Snoop and Pac as well as making a bunch of sicktacular album tracks.
furthermore, Kurupt never lost inspiration per se. whenever he writes a verse it is the shit, but I believe that he has freestyled 96% of his post death row work. I think he wrote less than 10 songs on SIAM, and from there less and less. I think we could count on 4-5 discs ABSOLUTE tops every song Kurupt actually wrote his verses too. i think the VAAAAST majority of Kurupt's work is freestyled, not based on quality but based on the way the verses come out. they often have a 'searching for words' feel to them. sidenote, Jay Z is known for doing this and they are both Saggitarius.
furthermore, Kurupt is my favorite rapper period and it pisses me off that he doesn't write more.
what pisses me off about the beef is that right before the beef daz and snoop were not working together and as soon as Kurupt left snoop and daz started to work together again. they all 3 needed to be doing shit always and to think otherwise is ridiculous.
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I consider Daz as an underdog in a more current sense, his major label deal didn't promote him well out here, and his solo projects haven't gotten the critcal love that they deserve. I leave what happened in the 90's to my personal taste only, because most rap fans don't remeber the music from that era.
I feel you about Kurupt reaching for words, and about him freestyling, but too me that's a lack off effort and motivation. He wasn't inspired to write shit, and being in a negative environment liek Death Row only hurt that. I think when he first git back together with Daz, he was a bit uncomfotable. Don't tell me that he doesn't hear those verses and think "man, this shit is fucking wack" ?
Still, after listenig too Dogg Chit, you can tell he is getting better and more comfotable with Daz. Westcoast Aftershock has the potential to be there best album since D & YG.
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these days the problem with the pound is Kurupt
Daz is still dope plus he can make good beats still, I like majority of the production Dogg Chit
Kurupt is just awful though and ruins the whole album, he only rhymed all his bars on like 1-2 and he talks a surprising amount of nonsense
Daz talks about the same shit but at least he has a mic presence and flow
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Man !! Kurupt ruins the whole album ?? :o
:'( don't think so
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these days the problem with the pound is Kurupt
Daz is still dope plus he can make good beats still, I like majority of the production Dogg Chit
Kurupt is just awful though and ruins the whole album, he only rhymed all his bars on like 1-2 and he talks a surprising amount of nonsense
Daz talks about the same shit but at least he has a mic presence and flow
I thought Kurupt did his thing on the majority of the tracks imo. Daz was the one who's verses were interchangeable on Dogg Chit. His production was good though, but I really felt like Kurupt help this album down very well. Alot of his verses were pointless, but his flow was always good.
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I think "Can't Get Enough" and "Throw Ya Hood Up" were the only tracks he didn't fuck the song up
"Bucc Em" is probably the best on the album and he didn't do a thing to help it, Daz made him look retarded
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Kurupt rips up
"Everybody"
"Anybody Killa"
"1 N 1 Out"
"Where U From"
"Blaze It Up"
in addition to sounding dope/dropping some heat on
"Bucc 'em"
"Good azz day"
"throw ya hood"
"vibe"
"can't get enough"
'drawz down'
The only problem with DP now in my view is Daz' dark ass synth production that sound like Styles P diss song beats. like "mo murder", "1 n 1 out", "thiz gangsta shit is ours", "I'll bury ya", and "get out my way"
i skip all of those songs because they are dark and non musical thus non enjoyable to me which is a shame cause Kurupt might be spittin some heat on them. The problem with DP in my mind is Daz' inability to admit to himself that the best production style he has is g funk and he can't admit it because he hears all the time from the hip hop community or whatever that g funk is dead. To me, if you were willing to give up on it why would warren be saying g funk for life and shit? that shit is the truth...did george clinton stop funkin? fuck no. did James Brown stop funkin? fuck no. should dogg pound stop funkin? fuck no.
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Not a diss Tanj, but I don't think I would really be feeling that G-Funk sound right now. Maybe something more like Dillenger & Young Gotti, but G-Funk to me has passed. I still bump the old shit, just not intersted in new G-Funk.
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Not a diss Tanj, but I don't think I would really be feeling that G-Funk sound right now. Maybe something more like Dillenger & Young Gotti, but G-Funk to me has passed. I still bump the old shit, just not intersted in new G-Funk.
i used to think so too, but 'where u from' proves to me it's still relevant.
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since they got back together the only track I can remember where Kurupt sounded real good was "Keep It Gangsta" off Cali Iz Active
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I still though Kurupt sounded wierd on CIA, just drugged out or something ( i'm being serious ).
I see what Westcoast is coming from, because Kurupt just kinda spit a bucnh of random words together. I just though the words sounded pretty good. 8)
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since they got back together the only track I can remember where Kurupt sounded real good was "Keep It Gangsta" off Cali Iz Active
fair enough, but that said do you see why I feel you guys are being harsh on Kurupt lyrically on CIA considering it contains his best lyrical showing in years?
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dude u need to calm down...
u just now herd they shit 15 years late .... and u rankin shit
keep listenin
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since they got back together the only track I can remember where Kurupt sounded real good was "Keep It Gangsta" off Cali Iz Active
fair enough, but that said do you see why I feel you guys are being harsh on Kurupt lyrically on CIA considering it contains his best lyrical showing in years?
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Nah CIA was terrible imo. He did better on Dillenger & Young Gotti II, but Dogg Chit is his best lyrics since the reunion.
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since they got back together the only track I can remember where Kurupt sounded real good was "Keep It Gangsta" off Cali Iz Active
fair enough, but that said do you see why I feel you guys are being harsh on Kurupt lyrically on CIA considering it contains his best lyrical showing in years?
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what is terrible about CIA, sans puffy the first 10 tracks are immaculate and then even most of the post track 10 tracks are dope. especially the dogg pound posse cuts. I don't know what you guys expected at all.
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Nah CIA was terrible imo. He did better on Dillenger & Young Gotti II, but Dogg Chit is his best lyrics since the reunion.
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^man CIA is weak... and i been a dpg fan since 15 years... you dont even know what your talkin bout
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^man CIA is weak... and i been a dpg fan since 15 years... you dont even know what your talkin bout
That's whack man, I've responded to countless posts of yours and have given you nothing but love. what kind of shit is "you don't even know what you're talking about"? I've been a DPG fan since 13, man. I'm not saying it makes me more ANYthing than you but to say i don't know what I'm talking about is rather harsh and inaccurate. The beats are melodic, the rappers sound good...what are we expecting from these guys? No one is answering these very simple questions, like specifically what makes the record(s) whack.
furthermore, I'm not saying what's weak about said records aren't weak (paul wall, banner, puffy) but to deny that there is quality outside of the weak stuff is rather limited of a view to have about it. the impression i get is that DPG fans who have always loved the realness of DP(in the sense that they do their style of shit regardless of what's going on in the industry) are very resentful of the banner/paul wall/puffy collabs to the point where they let the presence of said collabs block their view of what is otherwise good old fashioned dogg pound shit, in my several months on the forum I've heard a GAAAANG of cats bitch about paul wall/puffy/banner on CIA and NOONE mention the TWO RBX tracks, the other dogg pound posse cuts, Kurupt ripping up 'keep it gangsta'. Also, I've heard a million people bitch about no Daz production and have heard NOBODY give props to the dope ass soopafly production on the record (which is just as dogg pound as Daz). I'm just saying the feedback all seems very unjustifiedly one sided.
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^im not hatin
im just sayin.....CIA was not a good album, id say there is a handful of good songs and few ok tracks... but lyrically and musically for the most part its not up to the dpg standards ive been listenin too since i was a kid.....
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^im not hatin
im just sayin.....CIA was not a good album, id say there is a handful of good songs and few ok tracks... but lyrically and musically for the most part its not up to the dpg standards ive been listenin too since i was a kid.....
that's fine but 'you don't know what your talkin about is a bit much
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here is my rankings so ya know
1 dogg food 11/10
2 dillinger n gotti 10/10
3 dillinger n gotti 2 9/10
4 dogg chit 9/10
5 cali iz active 7/10
so my sayin CIA is weak is only compared to other dpg shit... ya know... compared to most other mufuckaz its dope... but as far as dpg shit is concerned it was not good enough
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^im not hatin
im just sayin.....CIA was not a good album, id say there is a handful of good songs and few ok tracks... but lyrically and musically for the most part its not up to the dpg standards ive been listenin too since i was a kid.....
that's fine but 'you don't know what your talkin about is a bit much
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dog this is the internet im drunk and i get annoyed by shit... calm down homie
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here is my rankings so ya know
1 dogg food 11/10
2 dillinger n gotti 10/10
3 dillinger n gotti 2 9/10
4 dogg chit 9/10
5 cali iz active 7/10
so my sayin CIA is weak is only compared to other dpg shit... ya know... compared to most other mufuckaz its dope... but as far as dpg shit is concerned it was not good enough
word, I like DC better than DYG2 so far but I do need to give it more of a listen.
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^im not hatin
im just sayin.....CIA was not a good album, id say there is a handful of good songs and few ok tracks... but lyrically and musically for the most part its not up to the dpg standards ive been listenin too since i was a kid.....
that's fine but 'you don't know what your talkin about is a bit much
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dog this is the internet im drunk and i get annoyed by shit... calm down homie
word, I haven't smoked in I don't know how many ours and my stomach's been mad upset.
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DYGII is terrible, one of the worst albums I've ever heard.
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DYGII is terrible, one of the worst albums I've ever heard.
i love that cd
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LOL at last II posts, it never ends...
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Every DPG album I've heard has been at least good and many classics. They have about as good of a catalog as any. My favorite is either RAW or SIAM. I haven't heard Cali Iz Active or DAYGII but I've heard pretty much everything else except that Last of the Pound.
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DPGC even as a crew have made SO MANY CLASSICS. I think people have such honest opinions about them because of their earlier body of work. It at times sounds like they are slacking. I don't think they can ever match their earlier work, any of them. But now they are back as a crew, All I want them to do is spend time with the music. Don't be in a rush and put half ass music out. Work on putting the dopest DPGC music possible and they are slowly getting back to that. As for the thread, they do have a good catalogue, even the subpar albums have at 3 or 4 bangers on them.
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i dont want to smash dreams....BUT...
dogg pound dont have classics....
everyone in here says dogg pound has only good albums, has classics and all, but you know, it is to be expected when on a westcoast forum. i like them too, and i would love to share your opinions, but i cant.
dogg pound never have been a major force in hiphop. and no, dogg food wasnt a major force either. it was coming out at the controversial death row times, at the time it was the biggest label and anything would go at least gold. the sales of dogg food are not the (whole) cause of daz & kurupt.
next to that album they dont have any high sellers (maybe you can count kuruption, streetz iz a mutha or revenge, retaliation and getback to the bestsellers in their catalogue)
but the fact remains dogg pound never had a big influence on the game, and are considered washed up by many "outsiders". kurupt was a hard spittin' mc on the chronic and doggystyle but after that his lyrics quickly changed.
nowadays you cant hear any dpg song without daz saying the word "nigga" 10 times in 2 minutes and kurupt saying "bitch suck my dick", "muthafucka" etc. half of their lyrics is cussing nowadays, and that is NOT what lyrics are about.
i know you gonna say they make gangsta rap and the west always had cusswords (n.w.a. etc) but even ice cube didnt use kurupt's language in all his classics (neither did he on his newer albums, but that is not important).
the reason they sell still is because they have a loyal fanbase all around the globe, and even though i bought dogg chit too, i have to say dogg pound never was a big time act...
let the hate commence cause im going against the grain...
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and i just thought of another point, they are FAR from marketable to sell loads. daz couldnt even sell a very average amount on so so def. his album was ok, nothing outstanding and a little bit short maybe, but it was a tight one. still i doubt that with much promotion sales would have gone way up. they are just not marketable (anymore).
the album i like the most of all dpg-related albums is kuruption, because you get 23 tracks for your money, and every track is so different from the others. but let's face it, outside dogg fodd they never sold much, showing us that the "big mainstream public" doesnt want the dogg pound.
they have good albums, but it takes more then just a "good album" or "no wack songs" to have a classic. illmatic is classic. reasonable doubt is classic. amerikkka's most wanted is classic. ready to die is classic. those albums influenced many other rappers and albums based on those foundations, but dogg pound never had this.
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i dont want to smash dreams....BUT...
dogg pound dont have classics....
everyone in here says dogg pound has only good albums, has classics and all, but you know, it is to be expected when on a westcoast forum. i like them too, and i would love to share your opinions, but i cant.
dogg pound never have been a major force in hiphop. and no, dogg food wasnt a major force either. it was coming out at the controversial death row times, at the time it was the biggest label and anything would go at least gold. the sales of dogg food are not the (whole) cause of daz & kurupt.
next to that album they dont have any high sellers (maybe you can count kuruption, streetz iz a mutha or revenge, retaliation and getback to the bestsellers in their catalogue)
but the fact remains dogg pound never had a big influence on the game, and are considered washed up by many "outsiders". kurupt was a hard spittin' mc on the chronic and doggystyle but after that his lyrics quickly changed.
nowadays you cant hear any dpg song without daz saying the word "nigga" 10 times in 2 minutes and kurupt saying "bitch suck my dick", "muthafucka" etc. half of their lyrics is cussing nowadays, and that is NOT what lyrics are about.
i know you gonna say they make gangsta rap and the west always had cusswords (n.w.a. etc) but even ice cube didnt use kurupt's language in all his classics (neither did he on his newer albums, but that is not important).
the reason they sell still is because they have a loyal fanbase all around the globe, and even though i bought dogg chit too, i have to say dogg pound never was a big time act...
let the hate commence cause im going against the grain...
Yeah you will get hate, but it's your opinion and I can respect that. For me personally Doggystyle and Dogg Food are classics. They have some classic songs and collabos but those 2 are classics to me. I disagree about the whole big time act thing. DPG was pretty big in they heyday, hype or no hype. You can generate hype. 2pac did it also and that hype helped him sell records. Same with Dogg Pound. Not as much hype as a Pac, but hype nonetheless. They had the world buzzing when New York, New York came out and I have been a fan since the Poetic Justice soundtrack.
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I think loyalty killed their chemistry also. They both stayed a little too long on Death Row trying to be loyal to Suge and they went 4-5 years in between albums. That was the strength of that crew was the chemistry and it seems like they have it but not like what it used to be.
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here is my rankings so ya know
1 dogg food 11/10
2 dillinger n gotti 10/10
3 dillinger n gotti 2 9/10
4 dogg chit 9/10
5 cali iz active 7/10
so my sayin CIA is weak is only compared to other dpg shit... ya know... compared to most other mufuckaz its dope... but as far as dpg shit is concerned it was not good enough
if you're a dpg fan for 15 years what you're sayin then that's an awful ranklist IMO...
the funny thing on this board is that almost nobody gives shit about mastering and tight production.
daz was a good producer in the death row days. but he can't compete to the new producers in 2007.
daz can't make a hit record no more. I dont wanna hear some '96 music. that music era is tight but we are in 2007.
real musician and hitmakers know what the people want. if daz still makes these beats he won't sell shit.
look at foesum. they still make that g-funk sound for ages. I want something new. and lyrics that I can relate to.
dogg food is a classic... and cali iz active was one of the best albums that came out that year. and that album wasnt that great.
my opinion on westcoast music in 2007 is that it is rushed to make some fast money. back in the days I had albums I bumped
months! now it is a week lol. too much shitty music nowadays... last good albums that came out that I can think of now are
blue carpet treatment, doc's advocate, trauma, and black-ty album. that's quality music. and I love the left side but like mykestro says
QUALITY OVER QUANTITY!
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Yeah Daz needs to update his sound. Although there were a few beats I liked from Dogg Chit.
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you gotta remember that sales don't make a good album, just because DPG haven't approached the 2 million sales of Dogg Food doesn't mean they haven't dropped classics, D&YG sold maybe 200k but is considered a classic by many west coast heads, I'm from NY and I consider it classic, I agree that they are no longer mainstream anymore and not capable of selling to the mass public but they can still drop dope albums
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I respect your opinion Tanj, but I also do disagree. Like ppl said, the fact that Banner/Diddy/Paul Wall were on CIA, didn't ruin it for me at all. I actually like the track with Paul Wall!!. Ain't feelin the Diddy or Banner collabo tho. No doubt the album has it's bangers, that's a no brainer. But in the end, it's extremely inconsistent if you ask me. But the bangers on it, are extremely dope. But in the end, if I have to listen 2 a DP album ALL THE WAY THROUGH WITHOUT SKIPPING NO TRACKS, CIA will be EXTREMELY low on the list. With that said, if I got about 20-30 mins only, CIA would be quite high on the list (because the bangers are so good). In the end though, the 1st scenario is more important to me
I also dis-liked D&YGII. DPGC Music was the only 5/5 track for me, then there was 3 4/5 tracks, the rest were rated lower :-\
^^worst DP album to me, but DPGC Music is a str8 banger, 1 of the greatest DP tracks of all time
Yo Tanj, you missin the 2002 album (death row put it out) & the last of tha pound album. Both are more consistent then CIA & D&YGII
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you gotta remember that sales don't make a good album, just because DPG haven't approached the 2 million sales of Dogg Food doesn't mean they haven't dropped classics, D&YG sold maybe 200k but is considered a classic by many west coast heads, I'm from NY and I consider it classic, I agree that they are no longer mainstream anymore and not capable of selling to the mass public but they can still drop dope albums
yes you are right about sales don't make a good album. look at Quik's carreer. but I was talking about my view. but I like music that is timeless. dogg chit is a far from a timeless record. but everbody got their own opinion and that's beautiful... that's why we are here
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I don't even count 2002. They had a handful of unreleased tracks but other than that you had songs from D&YG, Dat Whoopty Woop and RAW on that album. Death Row put it out to fuck up D&YG sales at the time. Although it does have Every Single Day, one of the greatest DPG songs of all time.
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I don't even count 2002. They had a handful of unreleased tracks but other than that you had songs from D&YG, Dat Whoopty Woop and RAW on that album. Death Row put it out to fuck up D&YG sales at the time. Although it does have Every Single Day, one of the greatest DPG songs of all time.
the only 1 I recognized on 2002 that was a double, was the xzibit track ???
and bty, the track with 2pac, don't stop, is also a DP classic to me
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I don't even count 2002. They had a handful of unreleased tracks but other than that you had songs from D&YG, Dat Whoopty Woop and RAW on that album. Death Row put it out to fuck up D&YG sales at the time. Although it does have Every Single Day, one of the greatest DPG songs of all time.
the only 1 I recognized on 2002 that was a double, was the xzibit track ???
and bty, the track with 2pac, don't stop, is also a DP classic to me
Almost half of that album was repeats. The original Don't Stop with Nas on Last Of The Pound is a little bit better but yeah both are sick.
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I don't even count 2002. They had a handful of unreleased tracks but other than that you had songs from D&YG, Dat Whoopty Woop and RAW on that album. Death Row put it out to fuck up D&YG sales at the time. Although it does have Every Single Day, one of the greatest DPG songs of all time.
the only 1 I recognized on 2002 that was a double, was the xzibit track ???
and bty, the track with 2pac, don't stop, is also a DP classic to me
All the tracks in bold are repeats from albums that were already out before this album
1. Intro
2. Roll Wit Us
3. Just Doggin'
4. Smoke - Kurupt/Snoop Dogg/The Relativez
5. Gangsta Rap - The Dogg Pound
6. 10 Til Midnight - Kurupt/SKG
7. Living The Gangsta Life
8. Don't Stop
9. Change The Game (Remix)
10. Crip Wit Us
11. What Cha About - Kurupt
12. Your Gyrlfriend 2 - Daz/Mac Shawn/Soopafly
13. Feels Good
14. Way Too Often - Soopafly/Kurupt
15. It'z All About That Money - Daz
16. Every Single Day
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I don't even count 2002. They had a handful of unreleased tracks but other than that you had songs from D&YG, Dat Whoopty Woop and RAW on that album. Death Row put it out to fuck up D&YG sales at the time. Although it does have Every Single Day, one of the greatest DPG songs of all time.
the only 1 I recognized on 2002 that was a double, was the xzibit track ???
and bty, the track with 2pac, don't stop, is also a DP classic to me
All the tracks in bold are repeats from albums that were already out before this album
1. Intro
2. Roll Wit Us
3. Just Doggin'
4. Smoke - Kurupt/Snoop Dogg/The Relativez
5. Gangsta Rap - The Dogg Pound
6. 10 Til Midnight - Kurupt/SKG
7. Living The Gangsta Life
8. Don't Stop
9. Change The Game (Remix)
10. Crip Wit Us
11. What Cha About - Kurupt
12. Your Gyrlfriend 2 - Daz/Mac Shawn/Soopafly
13. Feels Good
14. Way Too Often - Soopafly/Kurupt
15. It'z All About That Money - Daz
16. Every Single Day
damn, I didn't know that homie. I guess it went over my head because listen to sooo much music, and unless the songs are titled the same (which they clearly aren't, right?) then I may have some difficulty noticing
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Lol at people saying D&YGII and CIA are inconsistent.
CIA >>>>> Dogg Chit.
Dogg Chit sounds much like its rushed, like Lucien-Al-Ism said before me, the mastering and sound to it just misses something. Soopafly suffers the same fate, his Bangin' Westcoast had the same bad mastering. The want the money for their albums but theyt put no effort in it.
That is what up with al lthe "bad" rap nowadays. Every rapper drops and album every 2 years, then starts promoting the album by touring 1 - 1,5 year and then starts to make another album. When Dogg Food came out, Daz and Kurupt had at least worked 2 - 3 years on it, if not longer. Nowadays all these albums getting rushed like a muthafucka and to me thats just fucking with your fans. They need to spend time in the studio and at least take the time to write some decent lyrics, not stuff like "shut the fuck up and eat my balls" which kurupt is so good at these days.
Some cats called him grown up, same with Daz. I heard/read a lot of posts (even read a Daz interview i believe) a while back theyre now on another level, theyre not in their youths anymore so they gotta talk on other shit. But to me it sounds their lyrics only grew more childish with time :-\
I mean, i take a '92 Kurupt over a '07 one...back then he actually did his best, and even though he never had deep lyrics/songs, he still showcased great MC talent, nowdays hes one of the wackest rappers...right now, Young Joc >>>> Kurupt
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I don't even count 2002. They had a handful of unreleased tracks but other than that you had songs from D&YG, Dat Whoopty Woop and RAW on that album. Death Row put it out to fuck up D&YG sales at the time. Although it does have Every Single Day, one of the greatest DPG songs of all time.
the only 1 I recognized on 2002 that was a double, was the xzibit track ???
and bty, the track with 2pac, don't stop, is also a DP classic to me
All the tracks in bold are repeats from albums that were already out before this album
1. Intro
2. Roll Wit Us
3. Just Doggin'
4. Smoke - Kurupt/Snoop Dogg/The Relativez
5. Gangsta Rap - The Dogg Pound
6. 10 Til Midnight - Kurupt/SKG
7. Living The Gangsta Life
8. Don't Stop
9. Change The Game (Remix)
10. Crip Wit Us
11. What Cha About - Kurupt
12. Your Gyrlfriend 2 - Daz/Mac Shawn/Soopafly
13. Feels Good
14. Way Too Often - Soopafly/Kurupt
15. It'z All About That Money - Daz
16. Every Single Day
damn, I didn't know that homie. I guess it went over my head because listen to sooo much music, and unless the songs are titled the same (which they clearly aren't, right?) then I may have some difficulty noticing
The funny thing is, on most of them they did not bother changin the name
Dillinger & Young Gotti had Dipp With Me, 2002 had Crip With Us. Same lyrics, a little bit different beat. Same with Livin The Gangsta Life with Xzibit. They get took the keys out of it and added some bass to the loop
Feels Good, Your Girlfriend 2 @ Itz All About The Money were on RAW
Way Too Often was on Dat Whoopty Woop and Just Doggin is a remix to the song on the Sunset Park soundtrack. To Death Row's defense possibly, it is said that D&YG (parts of the album), RAW & Dat Whoopty Woop were all recorded at Death Row studios and Daz stole the masters when he left.
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Lol at people saying D&YGII and CIA are inconsistent.
CIA >>>>> Dogg Chit.
Dogg Chit sounds much like its rushed, like Lucien-Al-Ism said before me, the mastering and sound to it just misses something. Soopafly suffers the same fate, his Bangin' Westcoast had the same bad mastering. The want the money for their albums but theyt put no effort in it.
That is what up with al lthe "bad" rap nowadays. Every rapper drops and album every 2 years, then starts promoting the album by touring 1 - 1,5 year and then starts to make another album. When Dogg Food came out, Daz and Kurupt had at least worked 2 - 3 years on it, if not longer. Nowadays all these albums getting rushed like a muthafucka and to me thats just fucking with your fans. They need to spend time in the studio and at least take the time to write some decent lyrics, not stuff like "shut the fuck up and eat my balls" which kurupt is so good at these days.
Some cats called him grown up, same with Daz. I heard/read a lot of posts (even read a Daz interview i believe) a while back theyre now on another level, theyre not in their youths anymore so they gotta talk on other shit. But to me it sounds their lyrics only grew more childish with time :-\
I mean, i take a '92 Kurupt over a '07 one...back then he actually did his best, and even though he never had deep lyrics/songs, he still showcased great MC talent, nowdays hes one of the wackest rappers...right now, Young Joc >>>> Kurupt
And Cali Iz Active ain't rushed? The original concept was to have a DPGC album before CIA. If CIA was a Snoop and Daz album it would have been dope. Kurupt's only good lyrical song on it was Throwin Up Da C. Mastering is fucking up Daz's releases though. That shit is annoying. Funny with that Young Joc line. Have you heard Kurupt's shit on Hi-Tek's or on Gangstas Pt 2?
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Lol at people saying D&YGII and CIA are inconsistent.
CIA >>>>> Dogg Chit.
Dogg Chit sounds much like its rushed, like Lucien-Al-Ism said before me, the mastering and sound to it just misses something. Soopafly suffers the same fate, his Bangin' Westcoast had the same bad mastering. The want the money for their albums but theyt put no effort in it.
That is what up with al lthe "bad" rap nowadays. Every rapper drops and album every 2 years, then starts promoting the album by touring 1 - 1,5 year and then starts to make another album. When Dogg Food came out, Daz and Kurupt had at least worked 2 - 3 years on it, if not longer. Nowadays all these albums getting rushed like a muthafucka and to me thats just fucking with your fans. They need to spend time in the studio and at least take the time to write some decent lyrics, not stuff like "shut the fuck up and eat my balls" which kurupt is so good at these days.
Some cats called him grown up, same with Daz. I heard/read a lot of posts (even read a Daz interview i believe) a while back theyre now on another level, theyre not in their youths anymore so they gotta talk on other shit. But to me it sounds their lyrics only grew more childish with time :-\
I mean, i take a '92 Kurupt over a '07 one...back then he actually did his best, and even though he never had deep lyrics/songs, he still showcased great MC talent, nowdays hes one of the wackest rappers...right now, Young Joc >>>> Kurupt
And Cali Iz Active ain't rushed? The original concept was to have a DPGC album before CIA. If CIA was a Snoop and Daz album it would have been dope. Kurupt's only good lyrical song on it was Throwin Up Da C. Mastering is fucking up Daz's releases though. That shit is annoying. Funny with that Young Joc line. Have you heard Kurupt's shit on Hi-Tek's or on Gangstas Pt 2?
Yeah i heard that, thats the same similar shit at least 10 other rappers rap about :-\
Plus, CIA is rushed yes, you are right, but at least it had some good producers on there which made it sound much better (and im not just talking about a good beat) like Battlecat or David Banner.
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Lol at people saying D&YGII and CIA are inconsistent.
CIA >>>>> Dogg Chit.
Dogg Chit sounds much like its rushed, like Lucien-Al-Ism said before me, the mastering and sound to it just misses something. Soopafly suffers the same fate, his Bangin' Westcoast had the same bad mastering. The want the money for their albums but theyt put no effort in it.
That is what up with al lthe "bad" rap nowadays. Every rapper drops and album every 2 years, then starts promoting the album by touring 1 - 1,5 year and then starts to make another album. When Dogg Food came out, Daz and Kurupt had at least worked 2 - 3 years on it, if not longer. Nowadays all these albums getting rushed like a muthafucka and to me thats just fucking with your fans. They need to spend time in the studio and at least take the time to write some decent lyrics, not stuff like "shut the fuck up and eat my balls" which kurupt is so good at these days.
Some cats called him grown up, same with Daz. I heard/read a lot of posts (even read a Daz interview i believe) a while back theyre now on another level, theyre not in their youths anymore so they gotta talk on other shit. But to me it sounds their lyrics only grew more childish with time :-\
I mean, i take a '92 Kurupt over a '07 one...back then he actually did his best, and even though he never had deep lyrics/songs, he still showcased great MC talent, nowdays hes one of the wackest rappers...right now, Young Joc >>>> Kurupt
And Cali Iz Active ain't rushed? The original concept was to have a DPGC album before CIA. If CIA was a Snoop and Daz album it would have been dope. Kurupt's only good lyrical song on it was Throwin Up Da C. Mastering is fucking up Daz's releases though. That shit is annoying. Funny with that Young Joc line. Have you heard Kurupt's shit on Hi-Tek's or on Gangstas Pt 2?
Yeah i heard that, thats the same similar shit at least 10 other rappers rap about :-\
Plus, CIA is rushed yes, you are right, but at least it had some good producers on there which made it sound much better (and im not just talking about a good beat) like Battlecat or David Banner.
Battlecat's beats were cool on it, but even for his standards in was boring. If you are looking for innovative, political backpack rap from Kurupt, you are listening to the wrong mc. So you are definitely not a Dogg Pound fan right?
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Nah, I didn't forget 2002. I bought that AND DYG-1 the day they came out.
it had very few songs that were dope as a whole but the Kurupt verses are whoah. it's a shame DR did all those whack ass remixes to them.
furthermore, i could care less if the public buys or wants them, the public likes n sync and mims.
d-nice: DPGC as a crew have mad classics, but I was just referring to duo albums (even DF and CIA, despite the fact that they're sort of snoop albums )
as far as the due Tha Dogg Pound's classics they have Dogg Food. But as far as just west coast, DYG-1 is classic to me and many others.
i'm not saying the due has a gang of classics, i'm saying all the albums are good.
I used to hate on Kurupt's decline alot too, especially since I've had such high expectations for him since hearing the chronic/DS but you gotta listen to every aspect of the rapping, not just the words. he still usually sounds dope, and I don't expect more from him.
Yeah, he DID riip 'throwin up da c' which is a fuckin classic. he also ripped keepin it gangsta prod.soopa on cia. shit is amazing.
fuck a genre, if the song sounds good the song sounds good. g funk for life.
-T
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I don't even count 2002. They had a handful of unreleased tracks but other than that you had songs from D&YG, Dat Whoopty Woop and RAW on that album. Death Row put it out to fuck up D&YG sales at the time. Although it does have Every Single Day, one of the greatest DPG songs of all time.
the only 1 I recognized on 2002 that was a double, was the xzibit track ???
and bty, the track with 2pac, don't stop, is also a DP classic to me
All the tracks in bold are repeats from albums that were already out before this album
1. Intro
2. Roll Wit Us
3. Just Doggin'
4. Smoke - Kurupt/Snoop Dogg/The Relativez
5. Gangsta Rap - The Dogg Pound
6. 10 Til Midnight - Kurupt/SKG
7. Living The Gangsta Life
8. Don't Stop
9. Change The Game (Remix)
10. Crip Wit Us
11. What Cha About - Kurupt
12. Your Gyrlfriend 2 - Daz/Mac Shawn/Soopafly
13. Feels Good
14. Way Too Often - Soopafly/Kurupt
15. It'z All About That Money - Daz
16. Every Single Day
damn, I didn't know that homie. I guess it went over my head because listen to sooo much music, and unless the songs are titled the same (which they clearly aren't, right?) then I may have some difficulty noticing
The funny thing is, on most of them they did not bother changin the name
Dillinger & Young Gotti had Dipp With Me, 2002 had Crip With Us. Same lyrics, a little bit different beat. Same with Livin The Gangsta Life with Xzibit. They get took the keys out of it and added some bass to the loop
Feels Good, Your Girlfriend 2 @ Itz All About The Money were on RAW
Way Too Often was on Dat Whoopty Woop and Just Doggin is a remix to the song on the Sunset Park soundtrack. To Death Row's defense possibly, it is said that D&YG (parts of the album), RAW & Dat Whoopty Woop were all recorded at Death Row studios and Daz stole the masters when he left.
lol, the names are somewhat changed. Dipp With Me & Crip With Us is different titles. And considering that DPG don't have alot of substance in there music (I don't mind) it's easy to believe they'd have different songs titled dipp with me & crip with us
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Lol at people saying D&YGII and CIA are inconsistent.
CIA >>>>> Dogg Chit.
Dogg Chit sounds much like its rushed, like Lucien-Al-Ism said before me, the mastering and sound to it just misses something. Soopafly suffers the same fate, his Bangin' Westcoast had the same bad mastering. The want the money for their albums but theyt put no effort in it.
That is what up with al lthe "bad" rap nowadays. Every rapper drops and album every 2 years, then starts promoting the album by touring 1 - 1,5 year and then starts to make another album. When Dogg Food came out, Daz and Kurupt had at least worked 2 - 3 years on it, if not longer. Nowadays all these albums getting rushed like a muthafucka and to me thats just fucking with your fans. They need to spend time in the studio and at least take the time to write some decent lyrics, not stuff like "shut the fuck up and eat my balls" which kurupt is so good at these days.
Some cats called him grown up, same with Daz. I heard/read a lot of posts (even read a Daz interview i believe) a while back theyre now on another level, theyre not in their youths anymore so they gotta talk on other shit. But to me it sounds their lyrics only grew more childish with time :-\
I mean, i take a '92 Kurupt over a '07 one...back then he actually did his best, and even though he never had deep lyrics/songs, he still showcased great MC talent, nowdays hes one of the wackest rappers...right now, Young Joc >>>> Kurupt
And Cali Iz Active ain't rushed? The original concept was to have a DPGC album before CIA. If CIA was a Snoop and Daz album it would have been dope. Kurupt's only good lyrical song on it was Throwin Up Da C. Mastering is fucking up Daz's releases though. That shit is annoying. Funny with that Young Joc line. Have you heard Kurupt's shit on Hi-Tek's or on Gangstas Pt 2?
Yeah i heard that, thats the same similar shit at least 10 other rappers rap about :-\
Plus, CIA is rushed yes, you are right, but at least it had some good producers on there which made it sound much better (and im not just talking about a good beat) like Battlecat or David Banner.
Battlecat's beats were cool on it, but even for his standards in was boring. If you are looking for innovative, political backpack rap from Kurupt, you are listening to the wrong mc. So you are definitely not a Dogg Pound fan right?
i am a fan of good music, and unfortunately dogg chit is not good music imo, i bought the album asap only to find myself dissappointed by it. :-\
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Nah, I didn't forget 2002. I bought that AND DYG-1 the day they came out.
it had very few songs that were dope as a whole but the Kurupt verses are whoah. it's a shame DR did all those whack ass remixes to them.
furthermore, i could care less if the public buys or wants them, the public likes n sync and mims.
d-nice: DPGC as a crew have mad classics, but I was just referring to duo albums (even DF and CIA, despite the fact that they're sort of snoop albums )
as far as the due Tha Dogg Pound's classics they have Dogg Food. But as far as just west coast, DYG-1 is classic to me and many others.
i'm not saying the due has a gang of classics, i'm saying all the albums are good.
I used to hate on Kurupt's decline alot too, especially since I've had such high expectations for him since hearing the chronic/DS but you gotta listen to every aspect of the rapping, not just the words. he still usually sounds dope, and I don't expect more from him.
Yeah, he DID riip 'throwin up da c' which is a fuckin classic. he also ripped keepin it gangsta prod.soopa on cia. shit is amazing.
fuck a genre, if the song sounds good the song sounds good. g funk for life.
-T
Rage on Keep It Gangsta>Kurupt. Kurupt was throwing alot of big words together on that and repeating alot of words on it. Bangin ass beat and Rage's verse :o, but Rage's always is.
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haha how can you fuckin deny the DPG's impact? If we're going on popularity and influence look at All Eyez On Me. I'm a big Dre fan and Quik and all those niggas but Daz MADE All Eyez On Me as much as 2pac. He put down some beats that fucking haunt and match 2pacs verses like no other beat he spit on.
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Lol at people saying D&YGII and CIA are inconsistent.
CIA >>>>> Dogg Chit.
Dogg Chit sounds much like its rushed, like Lucien-Al-Ism said before me, the mastering and sound to it just misses something. Soopafly suffers the same fate, his Bangin' Westcoast had the same bad mastering. The want the money for their albums but theyt put no effort in it.
That is what up with al lthe "bad" rap nowadays. Every rapper drops and album every 2 years, then starts promoting the album by touring 1 - 1,5 year and then starts to make another album. When Dogg Food came out, Daz and Kurupt had at least worked 2 - 3 years on it, if not longer. Nowadays all these albums getting rushed like a muthafucka and to me thats just fucking with your fans. They need to spend time in the studio and at least take the time to write some decent lyrics, not stuff like "shut the fuck up and eat my balls" which kurupt is so good at these days.
Some cats called him grown up, same with Daz. I heard/read a lot of posts (even read a Daz interview i believe) a while back theyre now on another level, theyre not in their youths anymore so they gotta talk on other shit. But to me it sounds their lyrics only grew more childish with time :-\
I mean, i take a '92 Kurupt over a '07 one...back then he actually did his best, and even though he never had deep lyrics/songs, he still showcased great MC talent, nowdays hes one of the wackest rappers...right now, Young Joc >>>> Kurupt
And Cali Iz Active ain't rushed? The original concept was to have a DPGC album before CIA. If CIA was a Snoop and Daz album it would have been dope. Kurupt's only good lyrical song on it was Throwin Up Da C. Mastering is fucking up Daz's releases though. That shit is annoying. Funny with that Young Joc line. Have you heard Kurupt's shit on Hi-Tek's or on Gangstas Pt 2?
Yeah i heard that, thats the same similar shit at least 10 other rappers rap about :-\
Plus, CIA is rushed yes, you are right, but at least it had some good producers on there which made it sound much better (and im not just talking about a good beat) like Battlecat or David Banner.
Battlecat's beats were cool on it, but even for his standards in was boring. If you are looking for innovative, political backpack rap from Kurupt, you are listening to the wrong mc. So you are definitely not a Dogg Pound fan right?
i am a fan of good music, and unfortunately dogg chit is not good music imo, i bought the album asap only to find myself dissappointed by it. :-\
Hey like the Dogg Pound song says Shit Happens. Sorry you did not enjoy it. I think they make some good music and at times they do not, but I can still enjoy their music.
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Lol at people saying D&YGII and CIA are inconsistent.
CIA >>>>> Dogg Chit.
Dogg Chit sounds much like its rushed, like Lucien-Al-Ism said before me, the mastering and sound to it just misses something. Soopafly suffers the same fate, his Bangin' Westcoast had the same bad mastering. The want the money for their albums but theyt put no effort in it.
That is what up with al lthe "bad" rap nowadays. Every rapper drops and album every 2 years, then starts promoting the album by touring 1 - 1,5 year and then starts to make another album. When Dogg Food came out, Daz and Kurupt had at least worked 2 - 3 years on it, if not longer. Nowadays all these albums getting rushed like a muthafucka and to me thats just fucking with your fans. They need to spend time in the studio and at least take the time to write some decent lyrics, not stuff like "shut the fuck up and eat my balls" which kurupt is so good at these days.
Some cats called him grown up, same with Daz. I heard/read a lot of posts (even read a Daz interview i believe) a while back theyre now on another level, theyre not in their youths anymore so they gotta talk on other shit. But to me it sounds their lyrics only grew more childish with time :-\
I mean, i take a '92 Kurupt over a '07 one...back then he actually did his best, and even though he never had deep lyrics/songs, he still showcased great MC talent, nowdays hes one of the wackest rappers...right now, Young Joc >>>> Kurupt
And Cali Iz Active ain't rushed? The original concept was to have a DPGC album before CIA. If CIA was a Snoop and Daz album it would have been dope. Kurupt's only good lyrical song on it was Throwin Up Da C. Mastering is fucking up Daz's releases though. That shit is annoying. Funny with that Young Joc line. Have you heard Kurupt's shit on Hi-Tek's or on Gangstas Pt 2?
Yeah i heard that, thats the same similar shit at least 10 other rappers rap about :-\
Plus, CIA is rushed yes, you are right, but at least it had some good producers on there which made it sound much better (and im not just talking about a good beat) like Battlecat or David Banner.
Battlecat's beats were cool on it, but even for his standards in was boring. If you are looking for innovative, political backpack rap from Kurupt, you are listening to the wrong mc. So you are definitely not a Dogg Pound fan right?
i am a fan of good music, and unfortunately dogg chit is not good music imo, i bought the album asap only to find myself dissappointed by it. :-\
shit how can the dpg stack up to young bucks standards ::)
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i'm pretty picky, and I like 10 tracks on dogg chit alot.
it's all how you look at it. to me, on a historical level, an album is roughly ten tracks so no matter how many whack tracks there are if there's 10 solid tracks then i got my money's worth. so yeah there are more than 5 or so 'eh' songs on DC, and that's bad sure, I agree. but shit there's like 10 bangers, so fuck it, enjoy.
-T
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i'm pretty picky, and I like 10 tracks on dogg chit alot.
it's all how you look at it. to me, on a historical level, an album is roughly ten tracks so no matter how many whack tracks there are if there's 10 solid tracks then i got my money's worth. so yeah there are more than 5 or so 'eh' songs on DC, and that's bad sure, I agree. but shit there's like 10 bangers, so fuck it, enjoy.
-T
pretty much agreed. We have to face it, the time of an album coming out, and all 13-14 tracks are fuckin bangers, is long gone.
If an album comes out (standard length, 14-16 tracks), if there's at least 7-8 decent tracks (with a few being bangers, rest being decent) I won't be disapointed.
Damn, look at your karma Tanj ;)
i've been helping that out, with many others i'm sure. How you got to -117 or w.e, was wack in the 1st place :-X
we gonna get you to + soon homie ;D
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haha how can you fuckin deny the DPG's impact? If we're going on popularity and influence look at All Eyez On Me. I'm a big Dre fan and Quik and all those niggas but Daz MADE All Eyez On Me as much as 2pac. He put down some beats that fucking haunt and match 2pacs verses like no other beat he spit on.
Preach.
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yeah DPG do there thing, that 'Cali Iz Active' tune was kinda live still, that tune was big, I like that 'Vibe Wit A Pimp' shit too you know, dogg pound are big in the game, true stories
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since they got back together the only track I can remember where Kurupt sounded real good was "Keep It Gangsta" off Cali Iz Active
fair enough, but that said do you see why I feel you guys are being harsh on Kurupt lyrically on CIA considering it contains his best lyrical showing in years?
-T
what is terrible about CIA, sans puffy the first 10 tracks are immaculate and then even most of the post track 10 tracks are dope. especially the dogg pound posse cuts. I don't know what you guys expected at all.
-T
Nah CIA was terrible imo. He did better on Dillenger & Young Gotti II, but Dogg Chit is his best lyrics since the reunion.
My dude, I was looking for mixing and mastering first of all. Daz & Kurupt's lyrics were atrocious, no Daz beats, and horrendous guests apperances. Soopa made it so there was 1-2 good songs, but there was nothing immaculate about this album except for the idea.
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since they got back together the only track I can remember where Kurupt sounded real good was "Keep It Gangsta" off Cali Iz Active
fair enough, but that said do you see why I feel you guys are being harsh on Kurupt lyrically on CIA considering it contains his best lyrical showing in years?
-T
what is terrible about CIA, sans puffy the first 10 tracks are immaculate and then even most of the post track 10 tracks are dope. especially the dogg pound posse cuts. I don't know what you guys expected at all.
-T
Nah CIA was terrible imo. He did better on Dillenger & Young Gotti II, but Dogg Chit is his best lyrics since the reunion.
My dude, I was looking for mixing and mastering first of all. Daz & Kurupt's lyrics were atrocious, no Daz beats, and horrendous guests apperances. Soopa made it so there was 1-2 good songs, but there was nothing immaculate about this album except for the idea.
truth, +1
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I gotta say, there are fantasic arguments being made on both sides + 1 to everyone with a reasonable post too. Gotta let yall know where I stand on the albums
Dogg Food-10/10 Made a great album. Too bump it nowadays sounds a little played out to me, but Kurupt was at his best lyrically and Daz was spittin too. His production on this album was top notch too.
Dillinger & Young Gotti 10/10 Another great one, and my favorite DPG project. They attacked this album with such fire, great production, great lyrics, great background vocals.
Dillinger & Young Gotti II 7.5/10 Great nostalgic album if only too here the duo together again. Good beats, but the lyrics were mostly weak.
Cali Iz Active 6/10 One of the worst albums ever to come out of an artist/group with so much respectable catalog. DPG is not a pop group, they should never try to be. The mixing, mastering was terrible on this as well. I know they haven't had many high budget sounding albums in a while, but what's the point of hiring all the big name producers, and not having the beats sound right.
Dogg Chit-7/10 Another great album, more comfortable than D & YGII. Most of the songs have no point, and Daz's verses are interchangable. Dogg Chit imo does mark the return of Kurupt as someone at least listenable. I though the mixing coulda have been better, but still wasn't as bad as CIA.
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my biggest complaint with the dpg is they need to stop falling off and coming back/returning to their origins. once i can see but they seem to do it every other album and i gotta say its less exciting every time.
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reefer, I don't know who you are but I'm glad you've been posting in the last two days.
good call on DYG1's bckgrd vocals, they are sick. yeah man, I didn't use to say this but DYG1 is as good ass Dogg Food(only whack track is work dat pussy, but the other fuckin' 20 are dope). this shit is getting constant rotation for me right now. how many, c walkin cha cha cha and countless others are just on some next shit and I'm just now catching up.
I've only heard CIA burnt and it sounds fine to me. i really dislike that paul wall track, but the rest of that shit is dope to me. the first 3 or 4 songs I remember just bein hot as shit. the rage and both rbx tracks are dope as shit. the 2 soopafly tracks..man, I'll stop but damn I really like CIA, I think I like it as much as DYGII maybe but those are the two that are newest to my ears.
i will probably make follow up posts for daz and Kurupt's solo discographys. I've heard only RRGB and RAW from daz, nothing else. and I've not heard Kurupt's ATG or SDDS either, but i've heard the rest of his. i don't think i will be as pleased with this though, I really dislike alot of Kuruption and I have a feeling I may not like some of the stuff daz did like all his work with JT, Ghetto G, Mac Shawn etc. but hey maybe I'll be surprised.
-T
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reefer, I don't know who you are but I'm glad you've been posting in the last two days.
good call on DYG1's bckgrd vocals, they are sick. yeah man, I didn't use to say this but DYG1 is as good ass Dogg Food(only whack track is work dat pussy, but the other fuckin' 20 are dope). this shit is getting constant rotation for me right now. how many, c walkin cha cha cha and countless others are just on some next shit and I'm just now catching up.
I've only heard CIA burnt and it sounds fine to me. i really dislike that paul wall track, but the rest of that shit is dope to me. the first 3 or 4 songs I remember just bein hot as shit. the rage and both rbx tracks are dope as shit. the 2 soopafly tracks..man, I'll stop but damn I really like CIA, I think I like it as much as DYGII maybe but those are the two that are newest to my ears.
i will probably make follow up posts for daz and Kurupt's solo discographys. I've heard only RRGB and RAW from daz, nothing else. and I've not heard Kurupt's ATG or SDDS either, but i've heard the rest of his. i don't think i will be as pleased with this though, I really dislike alot of Kuruption and I have a feeling I may not like some of the stuff daz did like all his work with JT, Ghetto G, Mac Shawn etc. but hey maybe I'll be surprised.
-T
You don't know who? Theres a hint in my avatar 8)
I was wondering if u were gonna do separate posts for Daz & Kurupt as solo's or keep it in this thread?
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i like this is the life i lead by daz, you should check it out. i think its as good as RR&GB.
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reefer, I don't know who you are but I'm glad you've been posting in the last two days.
good call on DYG1's bckgrd vocals, they are sick. yeah man, I didn't use to say this but DYG1 is as good ass Dogg Food(only whack track is work dat pussy, but the other fuckin' 20 are dope). this shit is getting constant rotation for me right now. how many, c walkin cha cha cha and countless others are just on some next shit and I'm just now catching up.
I've only heard CIA burnt and it sounds fine to me. i really dislike that paul wall track, but the rest of that shit is dope to me. the first 3 or 4 songs I remember just bein hot as shit. the rage and both rbx tracks are dope as shit. the 2 soopafly tracks..man, I'll stop but damn I really like CIA, I think I like it as much as DYGII maybe but those are the two that are newest to my ears.
i will probably make follow up posts for daz and Kurupt's solo discographys. I've heard only RRGB and RAW from daz, nothing else. and I've not heard Kurupt's ATG or SDDS either, but i've heard the rest of his. i don't think i will be as pleased with this though, I really dislike alot of Kuruption and I have a feeling I may not like some of the stuff daz did like all his work with JT, Ghetto G, Mac Shawn etc. but hey maybe I'll be surprised.
-T
You don't know who? Theres a hint in my avatar 8)
I was wondering if u were gonna do separate posts for Daz & Kurupt as solo's or keep it in this thread?
are you floatin_above_everything? lol
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reefer, I don't know who you are but I'm glad you've been posting in the last two days.
good call on DYG1's bckgrd vocals, they are sick. yeah man, I didn't use to say this but DYG1 is as good ass Dogg Food(only whack track is work dat pussy, but the other fuckin' 20 are dope). this shit is getting constant rotation for me right now. how many, c walkin cha cha cha and countless others are just on some next shit and I'm just now catching up.
I've only heard CIA burnt and it sounds fine to me. i really dislike that paul wall track, but the rest of that shit is dope to me. the first 3 or 4 songs I remember just bein hot as shit. the rage and both rbx tracks are dope as shit. the 2 soopafly tracks..man, I'll stop but damn I really like CIA, I think I like it as much as DYGII maybe but those are the two that are newest to my ears.
i will probably make follow up posts for daz and Kurupt's solo discographys. I've heard only RRGB and RAW from daz, nothing else. and I've not heard Kurupt's ATG or SDDS either, but i've heard the rest of his. i don't think i will be as pleased with this though, I really dislike alot of Kuruption and I have a feeling I may not like some of the stuff daz did like all his work with JT, Ghetto G, Mac Shawn etc. but hey maybe I'll be surprised.
-T
You don't know who? Theres a hint in my avatar 8)
I was wondering if u were gonna do separate posts for Daz & Kurupt as solo's or keep it in this thread?
are you floatin_above_everything? lol
yeah, I tried keeping it simple lol.
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reefer, I don't know who you are but I'm glad you've been posting in the last two days.
good call on DYG1's bckgrd vocals, they are sick. yeah man, I didn't use to say this but DYG1 is as good ass Dogg Food(only whack track is work dat pussy, but the other fuckin' 20 are dope). this shit is getting constant rotation for me right now. how many, c walkin cha cha cha and countless others are just on some next shit and I'm just now catching up.
I've only heard CIA burnt and it sounds fine to me. i really dislike that paul wall track, but the rest of that shit is dope to me. the first 3 or 4 songs I remember just bein hot as shit. the rage and both rbx tracks are dope as shit. the 2 soopafly tracks..man, I'll stop but damn I really like CIA, I think I like it as much as DYGII maybe but those are the two that are newest to my ears.
i will probably make follow up posts for daz and Kurupt's solo discographys. I've heard only RRGB and RAW from daz, nothing else. and I've not heard Kurupt's ATG or SDDS either, but i've heard the rest of his. i don't think i will be as pleased with this though, I really dislike alot of Kuruption and I have a feeling I may not like some of the stuff daz did like all his work with JT, Ghetto G, Mac Shawn etc. but hey maybe I'll be surprised.
-T
You don't know who? Theres a hint in my avatar 8)
I was wondering if u were gonna do separate posts for Daz & Kurupt as solo's or keep it in this thread?
are you floatin_above_everything? lol
yeah, I tried keeping it simple lol.
true that homie 8)
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I think this topic proves how passionate DPG fans are about their music, props to Tanj and everyone in this thread
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I plan to check most Daz, i remeber the life i lead ads in RAW and DYG. anyway, this ain't floatin above. you should narrow your sig down to 2007 imo.
i'm gonna do a Daz discog post and a Kurupt discog post. but first i need the discogs in mp3 lol.
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I plan to check most Daz, i remeber the life i lead ads in RAW and DYG. anyway, this ain't floatin above. you should narrow your sig down to 2007 imo.
i'm gonna do a Daz discog post and a Kurupt discog post. but first i need the discogs in mp3 lol.
-T
Which albums do u need/or are missing?
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I think this topic proves how passionate DPG fans are about their music, props to Tanj and everyone in this thread
exactly, props 2 you 2 my man
Tanj: you need any links? ;D
i'm willing to help you along with the homie reefer alston
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fantastic debate guys, been readin this for the last 20 minutes lol, i love the dogg pound, heav all of my life, its great to see other peoples opinions on things, Tanj, i agree with almost everything u post on this message board finnaly lol iv found something i dont, Work Dat Pussy is bangin lol
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I plan to check most Daz, i remeber the life i lead ads in RAW and DYG. anyway, this ain't floatin above. you should narrow your sig down to 2007 imo.
i'm gonna do a Daz discog post and a Kurupt discog post. but first i need the discogs in mp3 lol.
-T
This is him Tanj. I left Nas, SP & Jeezy on there cuz they came out so late last year, and Nas/Jeezy had major singles this year too. If enough peeps think it's right, I'm not opposed to changing it to albums released in 07 though 8)
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i agree about the passion. their shit is so funky and entertaining, and it bangs you know?
i need
R.A.W(my copy got scratched but I have bought it)
everything daz has done since R.A.W lol
fuck da world from space boogie (i distilled the best tracks from SB and kuruption on my PC, i hated ALOT of those songs...but i accidentally deleted fuck da world)
what was Kurupt's next from there? ATG and SDDS? I need those.
also, I haven't burnt bangin west coast yet cause I don't wanna listen to the shitty quaity songs...i remember someone mentioning that there's only 2 songs with shitty sound quality, which are they?
thanks yall
oh it's all you floatin, i was just suggesstin, cause the list looks big. i would just suggest phasing the 06 ones out as more 07's fill it up
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i agree about the passion. their shit is so funky and entertaining, and it bangs you know?
i need
R.A.W(my copy got scratched but I have bought it)
everything daz has done since R.A.W lol
fuck da world from space boogie (i distilled the best tracks from SB and kuruption on my PC, i hated ALOT of those songs...but i accidentally deleted fuck da world)
what was Kurupt's next from there? ATG and SDDS? I need those.
also, I haven't burnt bangin west coast yet cause I don't wanna listen to the shitty quaity songs...i remember someone mentioning that there's only 2 songs with shitty sound quality, which are they?
thanks yall
oh it's all you floatin, i was just suggesstin, cause the list looks big. i would just suggest phasing the 06 ones out as more 07's fill it up
-T
im'a hit your pm with links to most if not all of them albums
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fantastic debate guys, been readin this for the last 20 minutes lol, i love the dogg pound, heav all of my life, its great to see other peoples opinions on things, Tanj, i agree with almost everything u post on this message board finnaly lol iv found something i dont, Work Dat Pussy is bangin lol
It bangs in a system.
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fantastic debate guys, been readin this for the last 20 minutes lol, i love the dogg pound, heav all of my life, its great to see other peoples opinions on things, Tanj, i agree with almost everything u post on this message board finnaly lol iv found something i dont, Work Dat Pussy is bangin lol
It bangs in a system.
beat is crazy, lyrics are subject but i think they were meant to be
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i agree about the passion. their shit is so funky and entertaining, and it bangs you know?
i need
R.A.W(my copy got scratched but I have bought it)
everything daz has done since R.A.W lol
fuck da world from space boogie (i distilled the best tracks from SB and kuruption on my PC, i hated ALOT of those songs...but i accidentally deleted fuck da world)
what was Kurupt's next from there? ATG and SDDS? I need those.
also, I haven't burnt bangin west coast yet cause I don't wanna listen to the shitty quaity songs...i remember someone mentioning that there's only 2 songs with shitty sound quality, which are they?
thanks yall
oh it's all you floatin, i was just suggesstin, cause the list looks big. i would just suggest phasing the 06 ones out as more 07's fill it up
-T
I got a couple for you too. Check ya PM's in a sec for Fuck Da World. And as I find albums, that are better than what I got in the list, they will be placed in strategically. I'm sure Jeezy won't be there in a couple months, but Nas will probably hold the crown for me.
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I always got love for DPG, but they suck nowadays...
Dogg Food - Classic, I love it, never get tired of it
DYG - Great album, not classic, but good follow up, bumped the shit out of it the year it was released
RR&GB - Classic, love this album, just below dogg food
Dogg Pound 2002 - pretty damn good album, about half is tracks that were already heard, if they weren't this would have been a great album.
SIAM - Dope album, although overrated. Who Ride With Us and SIAM are 2 of my all time fav dpg tracks
Raw - really dope album
everything else is avg at best and a good lot of it is garbage. You can definately tell how much snoop adds w/ his involvement.
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see everyone complains about how they fallen off, kurupt need to actually spend time on lyrics.
and tanj why dont you like kuruption? it has 23 tracks, at least 15 are tight, the rest is good too, depends on how you look at them, like you said yourself.
i think you def get your money's worth when you cop kuruption :)
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i was so immensely disappointed with Kuruption upon first hearing it, but in retrospect it has one albums worth of solid songs, i agree. -T
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D.P.G.= The Greatest Rap Group Ever
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D.P.G.= The Greatest Rap Group Ever
uuuh....o.....k....
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D.P.G.= The Greatest Rap Group Ever
truth !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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i was so immensely disappointed with Kuruption upon first hearing it, but in retrospect it has one albums worth of solid songs, i agree. -T
hated kuruption
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i was so immensely disappointed with Kuruption upon first hearing it, but in retrospect it has one albums worth of solid songs, i agree. -T
hated kuruption
I was not too hyped about it either and I popped it in a couple of weeks ago. It had some good tracks but the album was so uneven. I would go from dope to wack so quick for me.
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i was so immensely disappointed with Kuruption upon first hearing it, but in retrospect it has one albums worth of solid songs, i agree. -T
hated kuruption
I was not too hyped about it either and I popped it in a couple of weeks ago. It had some good tracks but the album was so uneven. I would go from dope to wack so quick for me.
its a loooong album, with few good tracks. the major problem is that it drags on to much. Make Some Noize, Play My Cards, We Can Freak It, C-Walk, Ask Yourself a Question, Gimmewhutchagot, & Who Do You Be are the only tracks that I bump. Thats 7 out of 23. If instead of making a double disc (1 for west, 1 for east) he made 1 disc, with 6-7 west coast sounding songs, and 6-7 east coast sounding songs, (including the 1s i mentioned that i enjoyed) we'd have a much better album
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D.P.G.= The Greatest Rap Group Ever
truth !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
N.W.A. ???
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D.P.G.= The Greatest Rap Group Ever
truth !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
N.W.A. ???
when I think DPG I'm not just thinkin daz/kurupt
i'm thinkin
213
tha dogg pound
eastsidaz
tlo rage
rbx
slip capone
both c styles
lil half dead
butch cassidy
etc....that's just a bangingly funky ass clique to me
-T
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i never liked NWA's work as much as I did them. i mean yeah they did some landmark shit but i dont think they ever really got their shit together til they went solo. i mean Death Certificate and Chronic are my two favorite albums. I don't think though they could have done that as a group. I think big name guys working together makin big projects can't really do their thang. Look at Death Row, they all want their own label make their own album, all them. They could work together when they were unknowns but after getting props it goes to their head.
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kuruption westcoast disc- perfect cd. not one skip
east disc i only like 1 or 2 songs....
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Kuruption was a very uneven album like said before, it's like Kurupt tried to do something extra big cause it was his first solo but does have quite a few dope songs especially on the West disc, cut down to one album it would've been doper
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the west coast disc is almost perfect. take 'put that on something' off and it's near perfect. put that on something is pretty horrendous to me, i really hate the drums. not to mention Kurupt's raps in it have nothing to offer me.
didn't devante of jodeci produce it? odd
-T
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D.P.G. is my favorite rap group of all time. I've been banging their shit since 1995 down here in Miami. Fuk all the haterz.
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D.P.G.= The Greatest Rap Group Ever
truth !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
N.W.A. ???
when I think DPG I'm not just thinkin daz/kurupt
i'm thinkin
213
tha dogg pound
eastsidaz
tlo rage
rbx
slip capone
both c styles
lil half dead
butch cassidy
etc....that's just a bangingly funky ass clique to me
-T
i never knew slip capone and butch cassidy were part of DPGC? that's cool though.
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dont listen to Dogg Pound at all really anymore. its kind of annoying to listen to kurupt nowadays. and they just dont put forth any effort anymore. dont blame them though, happens to everyone after being in the industry for that long.
I guess i kinda outgrown them too. you know as you get older...
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slip capone aint part of dpgc
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if i could start from scratch i wouldnt change shit
same DOGG FOOD album bumpin out my tape deck
as a group DOGG FOOD was the only album i really kept in constant rotation.. and is in my top 5 all time
obviously streetz iz a mutha n retaliation revenge get crazy burn but their group efforts didnt hold my interest as a whole although i did bump individual songs from those albums.
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don't know if i went into this before but DYG1 is cool to me also cause the first 10 tracks are like day and the last ten are like the night. from intro to treat her like a lady it's all a sunny california day smokin, partyin, dippin', coastin, cruisin' (even we about to get fucc up, party at my house, and gitta strippin' have a day feel to me) and from 'at night' on, the album is much more dark (but still funky) and gangsta/violent and night-oriented (shit happens, how many, at night, here we are go kill 'em, even 'someway out' sounds night-ish) and because of this the album flows really nicely to me in a way that I didn't realize years ago when it came out.
-T
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don't know if i went into this before but DYG1 is cool to me also cause the first 10 tracks are like day and the last ten are like the night. from intro to treat her like a lady it's all a sunny california day smokin, partyin, dippin', coastin, cruisin' (even we about to get fucc up, party at my house, and gitta strippin' have a day feel to me) and from 'at night' on, the album is much more dark (but still funky) and gangsta/violent and night-oriented (shit happens, how many, at night, here we are go kill 'em, even 'someway out' sounds night-ish) and because of this the album flows really nicely to me in a way that I didn't realize years ago when it came out.
-T
its a classic that most dont get
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YO DOGGPOUND IZ D REALEZT CRIPZ OUT DER 8)
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YO DOGGPOUND IZ D REALEZT CRIPZ OUT DER 8)
I would say they're probably the funkiest. I'm not in a position to speak on their gangster-osity though.
-T
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yeah D&YG1 is organized well, I was thinking of organizing my audio project similar, but I went with something more direct as DPGCLP in terms of song transition. That also gives DY&G seasonal advantage. the first half is more summer-based, second half is more dark, which is usually associated with cold, and night. basically the same theory you had.
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yeah D&YG1 is organized well, I was thinking of organizing my audio project similar, but I went with something more direct as DPGCLP in terms of song transition. That also gives DY&G seasonal advantage. the first half is more summer-based, second half is more dark, which is usually associated with cold, and night. basically the same theory you had.
eah i feel u on that
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don't know if i went into this before but DYG1 is cool to me also cause the first 10 tracks are like day and the last ten are like the night. from intro to treat her like a lady it's all a sunny california day smokin, partyin, dippin', coastin, cruisin' (even we about to get fucc up, party at my house, and gitta strippin' have a day feel to me) and from 'at night' on, the album is much more dark (but still funky) and gangsta/violent and night-oriented (shit happens, how many, at night, here we are go kill 'em, even 'someway out' sounds night-ish) and because of this the album flows really nicely to me in a way that I didn't realize years ago when it came out.
-T
Mike Dean deserves alot of props for this, he worked well together with Daz on that album
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I remember when D&YG came out and like Tanj said it does have 2 parts. 2 songs I slept on were the 2 solo joints on there. Both of the beats on Here We Are and I'ma Gangsta were bangin. How Many is my joint on there. That song is on some morbid/murder shit but a hype song at the same time. So many dope tracks on that album.
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How Many is so ridiculously tense. it's just like 'let's ride muthafuckaz.' to me, it's not so much morbid/murder as 'who the fuck is down with me?' kinda.
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i like Shit Happens alot..... coastin.... the whole fuckin cd is classic not one skip on DYG to me
and BEST RUN (with roscoe n beanie)!!!!!!!!!!!
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Kurupt's verse on How Many was :o
I am bumping that right now. 8)
My favorite on the album. Shit Happens that guitar loop is insane.
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the whole fuckin cd is classic not one skip on DYG to me
Damn this is exactly what I've been trying to say in these DPG threads for weeks now.
D & YG>>>>Dogg Food imo.
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the whole fuckin cd is classic not one skip on DYG to me
Damn this is exactly what I've been trying to say in these DPG threads for weeks now.
D & YG>>>>Dogg Food imo.
\i dont know about that but they arent that far aprt in my opinion
dogg food 10/10
DYG 10/10
DYG2 9/10
DOGG CHIT 9/10
CIA 7/10
2002 7/10
last of pound 7/10
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ratings I can agree with^^
shit happens is sick as fuck too. i didn't realize it then but yeah, DYG is as tight as DF.
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ratings I can agree with^^
shit happens is sick as fuck too. i didn't realize it then but yeah, DYG is as tight as DF.
-T
Finally you agree with me on this lol.!
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I'm bumpin We About To Get Fucced Up right now. That is another sick track. Their cadence on that song is sick. They really have dope chemistry on tracks.
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i like Shit Happens alot..... coastin.... the whole fuckin cd is classic not one skip on DYG to me
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A week ago, everybody was saying how the 4 "pussy" songs fucked up D & YG. Have people's opinions changed that quick?
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A week ago, everybody was saying how the 4 "pussy" songs fucked up D & YG. Have people's opinions changed that quick?
i never said that, look at a couple pages before, im sayin work dat pussy is a banger, yous jus a bitch is near enough my fav song on the album
cant say for anyone else, i love those tracks, evn on dogg chit, pull ya drawz down is pure heat
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A week ago, everybody was saying how the 4 "pussy" songs fucked up D & YG. Have people's opinions changed that quick?
i never said that, look at a couple pages before, im sayin work dat pussy is a banger, yous jus a bitch is near enough my fav song on the album
cant say for anyone else, i love those tracks, evn on dogg chit, pull ya drawz down is pure heat
Nah, it wasn't u, I'm referring to Tanj's DPG discography thread.
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A week ago, everybody was saying how the 4 "pussy" songs fucked up D & YG. Have people's opinions changed that quick?
listening to the album a grip in context. i stll think work dat pussy is a weak spot, but i feel like the graphic sex(snoop's balls slapping against some bitch's ass while he tells daz to get the camera...ewgh) in Dogg Food is just as weak.
and gitta strippin' i've learned to block out the lyrics, cause that song is sooo sick musically. B.I.T.C.H. and treat her like are just amazing too.
drawz down is dope shit too
-T
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At Night- 8)
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A week ago, everybody was saying how the 4 "pussy" songs fucked up D & YG. Have people's opinions changed that quick?
i never said that, look at a couple pages before, im sayin work dat pussy is a banger, yous jus a bitch is near enough my fav song on the album
cant say for anyone else, i love those tracks, evn on dogg chit, pull ya drawz down is pure heat
Nah, it wasn't u, I'm referring to Tanj's DPG discography thread.
oh cool
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A week ago, everybody was saying how the 4 "pussy" songs fucked up D & YG. Have people's opinions changed that quick?
listening to the album a grip in context. i stll think work dat pussy is a weak spot, but i feel like the graphic sex(snoop's balls slapping against some bitch's ass while he tells daz to get the camera...ewgh) in Dogg Food is just as weak.
and gitta strippin' i've learned to block out the lyrics, cause that song is sooo sick musically. B.I.T.C.H. and treat her like are just amazing too.
drawz down is dope shit too
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I got respect for women don't get me wrong, but if a rapper's good enough at it, I say fuck them bitches. I love those dirty, degrading songs if they are done right. Pure comedy too me, it reflects the way I feel if Im single. Plus, the musical aspect of the tracks ( ex: "Work Dat Pussy" bangs! in the car system, "Treat Her Like A Lady" great piano ). I though "Gitta Strippin" was great, Kurupt is cold on them hoes lol.
At Night- 8)
Great display of them flowing off one another, maybe the best track on the album in that aspect..
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Kurupt kills the last track on DYG I think he might've recycled some of these verses before
So gimmie, the heat to the motherfucking Jimmies
Hit slimmies, like 3's and I be's Penny
Raw, like fifteen separate sawed-offs
To you chest, lethal techs, and pissed to get complex
If I had a million dollars, then I'd be rich
If your ho was on deck then I'd fuck yo bitch
It's Gotti in the cut with the Don, Coleone
And Dillinger, with the hollow tip chromes (Yeah)
Catch you in traffic, leave you all flabbergasted
Stalking you all, all walking caskets
Hit the spot where the smoke is sold
Low and behold, the tightest composition composed
Can you catch it, I threw my thoughts like a quarterback
So when they in the realm wit I mangle, murder, and slaughter at
React, actions speak louder than words
But ain't nothing more potent than vision
I seen out in through the visions, erupting
I'm spontaneous rapping, busting your melon
Then escape a lyrical felon
Accelling in and out like, as if I'm smoking the bomb (boom)
And hit 3's as my D's shine
And keep it gangsta
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I already agreed that gitta strippin, treat her, and BITCH are sick as fuck.
i think work dat pussy is whack musically too, that's the main reason i don't dig it. plus kurupt has simple rhymes in it like out/mouth.
but it's good context. i like a hoe-song when it's extra well done as well.
the verse on D.P.G. the last song on DYG is also on DR's 2002 on the track '10 Til Midnight' it is an old verse.
but whatever, it's good that daz gave us that DR kurupt as a treat for the end.
-T
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I already agreed that gitta strippin, treat her, and BITCH are sick as fuck.
i think work dat pussy is whack musically too, that's the main reason i don't dig it. plus kurupt has simple rhymes in it like out/mouth.
but it's good context. i like a hoe-song when it's extra well done as well.
the verse on D.P.G. the last song on DYG is also on DR's 2002 on the track '10 Til Midnight' it is an old verse.
but whatever, it's good that daz gave us that DR kurupt as a treat for the end.
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fuck that work dat pussy beats.,,, put that shit in some speakers homie
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I already agreed that gitta strippin, treat her, and BITCH are sick as fuck.
i think work dat pussy is whack musically too, that's the main reason i don't dig it. plus kurupt has simple rhymes in it like out/mouth.
but it's good context. i like a hoe-song when it's extra well done as well.
the verse on D.P.G. the last song on DYG is also on DR's 2002 on the track '10 Til Midnight' it is an old verse.
but whatever, it's good that daz gave us that DR kurupt as a treat for the end.
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Didn't that stupid Death Row album come out after Dillinger & Young Gotti though? What do you mean by "old" Kurupt?
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I already agreed that gitta strippin, treat her, and BITCH are sick as fuck.
i think work dat pussy is whack musically too, that's the main reason i don't dig it. plus kurupt has simple rhymes in it like out/mouth.
but it's good context. i like a hoe-song when it's extra well done as well.
the verse on D.P.G. the last song on DYG is also on DR's 2002 on the track '10 Til Midnight' it is an old verse.
but whatever, it's good that daz gave us that DR kurupt as a treat for the end.
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+1 man, I knew I heard that verse before, dope shit
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I already agreed that gitta strippin, treat her, and BITCH are sick as fuck.
i think work dat pussy is whack musically too, that's the main reason i don't dig it. plus kurupt has simple rhymes in it like out/mouth.
but it's good context. i like a hoe-song when it's extra well done as well.
the verse on D.P.G. the last song on DYG is also on DR's 2002 on the track '10 Til Midnight' it is an old verse.
but whatever, it's good that daz gave us that DR kurupt as a treat for the end.
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Didn't that stupid Death Row album come out after Dillinger & Young Gotti though? What do you mean by "old" Kurupt?
kurupt probably wrote that verse in his death row days
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I already agreed that gitta strippin, treat her, and BITCH are sick as fuck.
i think work dat pussy is whack musically too, that's the main reason i don't dig it. plus kurupt has simple rhymes in it like out/mouth.
but it's good context. i like a hoe-song when it's extra well done as well.
the verse on D.P.G. the last song on DYG is also on DR's 2002 on the track '10 Til Midnight' it is an old verse.
but whatever, it's good that daz gave us that DR kurupt as a treat for the end.
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+1 man, I knew I heard that verse before, dope shit
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I have no doubt that that verse was written and recorded while Daz and Kurupt were on Death Row together.
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I already agreed that gitta strippin, treat her, and BITCH are sick as fuck.
i think work dat pussy is whack musically too, that's the main reason i don't dig it. plus kurupt has simple rhymes in it like out/mouth.
but it's good context. i like a hoe-song when it's extra well done as well.
the verse on D.P.G. the last song on DYG is also on DR's 2002 on the track '10 Til Midnight' it is an old verse.
but whatever, it's good that daz gave us that DR kurupt as a treat for the end.
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Didn't that stupid Death Row album come out after Dillinger & Young Gotti though? What do you mean by "old" Kurupt?
kurupt probably wrote that verse in his death row days
I c.
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Hey guys I have a question about the production of DPG discography. I've mainly heard material from Dogg Food and I like it, but do their other albums have that G-Funk sound?
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Hey guys I have a question about the production of DPG discography. I've mainly heard material from Dogg Food and I like it, but do their other albums have that G-Funk sound?
Yeah pretty much. The only one that is completely not G-Funk is Cali Iz Active.
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Hey guys I have a question about the production of DPG discography. I've mainly heard material from Dogg Food and I like it, but do their other albums have that G-Funk sound?
Yeah pretty much. The only one that is completely not G-Funk is Cali Iz Active.
awesome, thanks for the reply. that's just what i thought actually since i heard a few tracks off Cali Iz Active, but wasn't really into them.
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I already agreed that gitta strippin, treat her, and BITCH are sick as fuck.
i think work dat pussy is whack musically too, that's the main reason i don't dig it. plus kurupt has simple rhymes in it like out/mouth.
but it's good context. i like a hoe-song when it's extra well done as well.
the verse on D.P.G. the last song on DYG is also on DR's 2002 on the track '10 Til Midnight' it is an old verse.
but whatever, it's good that daz gave us that DR kurupt as a treat for the end.
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Didn't that stupid Death Row album come out after Dillinger & Young Gotti though? What do you mean by "old" Kurupt?
yeah DYG came out first.... so kurupt just re-used an old verse ... fuck it... DYG= classic
****AND ALL DPG SHIT IS GFUNK except CIA
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DYGII is terrible, one of the worst albums I've ever heard.
I always thought that it was dope, i like it alot! "Ryde & Creep", "Outro (Feels Good To Be A D.P.G.)", "D.P.G.C. Muzik", "Cuz I'ma Gangsta" are classic Dogg Pound shit...
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DYGII is terrible, one of the worst albums I've ever heard.
I always thought that it was dope, i like it alot! "Ryde & Creep", "Outro (Feels Good To Be A D.P.G.)", "D.P.G.C. Muzik", "Cuz I'ma Gangsta" are classic Dogg Pound shit...
yeah the album gets too much hate, if the albums so bad, tell us what songs you dont like, dont see any1 doing tht, jus sayin wack and shit
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d&yg 2 is a tight album, it gets a lot of hate though. :-\
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DYGII is terrible, one of the worst albums I've ever heard.
I always thought that it was dope, i like it alot! "Ryde & Creep", "Outro (Feels Good To Be A D.P.G.)", "D.P.G.C. Muzik", "Cuz I'ma Gangsta" are classic Dogg Pound shit...
"Hittin' Donutz in tha Streetz", "Push Bacc" yeah I don't see why this album gets hate, this was the album that we were waiting for since Kurupt came back
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i felt like CIA was more g funky or as g funky ass dogg chit
but all their records have that funk
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Dogg chit sounds really good !! Got a lot Bangers !
Dogg Pound is The Best Group !!! Fo Real !! Pac is first , Snoop Second & Dogg Pound third ( if i had to make a choice Kurupt third and Daz Forth )
They Made too much hits !
I'm a Bigg Dogg Pound Fan !! like tanj said i talk about the whole DPG
Eastsidaz
Bad Azz
Nate Dogg
Tlo Rage
Rbx
ect....
+1 for my man Tanj !! he always got love for Dpg & i appreciate that !!
I See so much dpg haters in dubcc & i can't understand 'em !!
G-Funk For Life !! D.P.G.C 4 Life !!!
And if you can't accept it so fucc u !! DOGG POUND GANGSTAZ 4 LIFE
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i felt like CIA was more g funky or as g funky ass dogg chit
but all their records have that funk
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+1 homey, 5000 posts
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I think Dillinger & Young Gotti 2 is actually a little better than Dogg Chit now.
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+2 higheyecue, snoopaveli
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Man Shit Happens is a dope ass track. I have not listened to it in so long but they both killed this beat. The reverb bass in a system on Coastin is sick too. Perfect cd to test a brand new system out on.
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Man Shit Happens is a dope ass track. I have not listened to it in so long but they both killed this beat. The reverb bass in a system on Coastin is sick too. Perfect cd to test a brand new system out on.
troof, haha i'm glad i got you that dyg again
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i was bumpin DYG last nigt... THAT SHIT STILL CLASSIC
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I'm bumpin "Best Run" rite now, Beans murders this track, I wish he did more stuff with DPG
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as good as beans as is, crooked I has a similar voice and even more chops
imo
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Y'all know that Kurupt is from the East coast, Philly actually?
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Y'all know that Kurupt is from the East coast, Philly actually?
lol yeah he says it in a grip of songs and it's where the concept of his first solo comes from.
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Man Shit Happens is a dope ass track. I have not listened to it in so long but they both killed this beat. The reverb bass in a system on Coastin is sick too. Perfect cd to test a brand new system out on.
troof, haha i'm glad i got you that dyg again
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I pop it in every once and a while. I popped some speakers to this a couple of days ago so I have to replace them but it's all good. ;D I am just glad we got some true DPG fans on this board. It had become fashionable and the in thing to diss the fuck out of them lately on here for most so this thread is becoming a classic.
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Man Shit Happens is a dope ass track. I have not listened to it in so long but they both killed this beat. The reverb bass in a system on Coastin is sick too. Perfect cd to test a brand new system out on.
troof, haha i'm glad i got you that dyg again
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I pop it in every once and a while. I popped some speakers to this a couple of days ago so I have to replace them but it's all good. ;D I am just glad we got some true DPG fans on this board. It had become fashionable and the in thing to diss the fuck out of them lately on here for most so this thread is becoming a classic.
thanks man, i agree, why i knew i needed to listen to the discog and give my two cents
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hey....so is Kurupt talking about 50 in callin out names with the 'get ya ass beat down to 10 cent..."?????
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Y'all know that Kurupt is from the East coast, Philly actually?
yeah he sharpened his skills there, Philly is gangsta and has a grip of dope MC's
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hey....so is Kurupt talking about 50 in callin out names with the 'get ya ass beat down to 10 cent..."?????
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huh... never noticed that he does say "GET YA ASS KICKED 50 TIMES, BEAT YA 10 CENT"
never noticed that really, probaly cuz 50 wasnt out at the time so i never payed attention to it back then
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in the late 90s my uncle would show me tapes of 50 when he was way small just DISSIN cats alllll the time
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hey....so is Kurupt talking about 50 in callin out names with the 'get ya ass beat down to 10 cent..."?????
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I think so. Man he went awol on rappers on that song.
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absent with out leave?
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absent with out leave?
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My bad, I meant to say and went crazy on these rappers. Trying to type too fast.
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oh i thought you were smokin' that gooood shit, ha
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50 came out with "How To Rob" in '99, I know alot of rappers were heated at 50 including Big Pun, he tried to make a name for himself dissing alot rappers with that track, Kurupt was just heated over the Foxy situtation and just went off
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50 came out with "How To Rob" in '99, I know alot of rappers were heated at 50 including Big Pun, he tried to make a name for himself dissing alot rappers with that track, Kurupt was just heated over the Foxy situtation and just went off
yeah thats what i figured
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Y'all know that Kurupt is from the East coast, Philly actually?
yeah he sharpened his skills there, Philly is gangsta and has a grip of dope MC's
Yeah man, the Eastcoast breeds the best.
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Went from top ten to not mentioned at all, till they're selling verses on ebay, y'all. :laugh:
Nah this new stuff is hard, hopefully they keep it up.
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^^^what u talkin bout
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kurupt was selling his verses on ebay a while ago, dunno if he still is.
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wha? how much a verse, that would be sick.
anyway, now that I think about how to rob, there's a line in ther about 50 taking the ring that Kurupt bought for Foxy. that's probably what Rup was replying to.
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wha? how much a verse, that would be sick.
anyway, now that I think about how to rob, there's a line in ther about 50 taking the ring that Kurupt bought for Foxy. that's probably what Rup was replying to.
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i dunno man, i saw it with my own eyes at ebay, but i dunno the prices or w/e i suggest going to ebay and looking for it :D
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thats fuckin dumb why sell veres on ebay... lol
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cuz he need the money???
thats "crippin' his way to richness" man, supposed to be gangsta you know
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cuz he need the money???
thats "crippin' his way to richness" man, supposed to be gangsta you know
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yeah...it's just another medium to sell in.
check it out...when you're a celebrity of some kind for years and years, you lose touch with reality.
One time in the 60's the beatles were chilling (dudes that have been celebrity Gods since their early 20s, pretty much grew up/lost innocence in the limelight) and Paul McCartney made a phone call and got the busy signal and he was all confused "Uh..I dialed and this thing is beeping..." and a roadie was like 'that's the busy signal...hang up.' In other words, it's a different reality, basic shit slides by you when you don't need to do basic shit anymore. Kurupt's never been the kind of cat to be very familiar with the internet/technology that's why Daz has a million dubcnn interviews and Kurupt has one. As far as Kurupt was concerned it was probably just another hustle "Oh cats is making money off this ebay shit, well fuck..." he doesn't see ebay the same way we do.
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props tanj, im amazed how you always seem to have reasons for everything :D
maybe youre right, but you know, when i think about kurupt, i dont see a smart dude you know, its more like hes kinda stupid, if i can call him that. i mean cats like nas, guru etc. they are smart, they know whatsup with society and stuff, and they infuse a bit of that in their lyrics, and i would even call people like 50 cent and jay-z smart, cuz they know business, they are really making their way cuz of their businesstalents, they know when to do something and when not.
but you know, kurupt, he never really rapped about any "smart" stuff and all that, it basically always was "fuck a bitch" blablabla. now thats cool, im a kurupt fan myself, but you know, youre not really showing your "intellect" by such lyrics.
plus like you said, he should do more interviews etc. to get in the picture, but then again, he sells basically by word of mouth, so thats cool too i guess.
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Daz has lost the ability top rap, and kurupt lost the ability to write a decent verse. Warzone, Western Union all making shitty music, Xzibit releasing shitty music, Quik and AMG releasing garbage, Daz and Kurupt addicted to drugs. West is dieing. When The Game becomes your most listened to artist, you know westcoast hip hop is dieing.
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Daz has lost the ability top rap, and kurupt lost the ability to write a decent verse. Warzone, Western Union all making shitty music, Xzibit releasing shitty music, Quik and AMG releasing garbage, Daz and Kurupt addicted to drugs. West is dieing. When The Game becomes your most listened to artist, you know westcoast hip hop is dieing.
what the fuck is wrong with u, every post your bitchin your ass off, shut the fuck up and go away if you dont like west coast rap
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props tanj, im amazed how you always seem to have reasons for everything :D
maybe youre right, but you know, when i think about kurupt, i dont see a smart dude you know, its more like hes kinda stupid, if i can call him that. i mean cats like nas, guru etc. they are smart, they know whatsup with society and stuff, and they infuse a bit of that in their lyrics, and i would even call people like 50 cent and jay-z smart, cuz they know business, they are really making their way cuz of their businesstalents, they know when to do something and when not.
but you know, kurupt, he never really rapped about any "smart" stuff and all that, it basically always was "fuck a bitch" blablabla. now thats cool, im a kurupt fan myself, but you know, youre not really showing your "intellect" by such lyrics.
plus like you said, he should do more interviews etc. to get in the picture, but then again, he sells basically by word of mouth, so thats cool too i guess.
I too always though Gotti was smart enough to diversify his topics. He has rarley done this an can come off as an unintelligent rapper/person. In interviews ( except for when he was beefin with Daz ), he comes of as a smart guy. On the other hand, Nas sounds like an idiot in alot in his interviews, but makes the smartest music out there.
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Kurupt is smart but not in the same way say...a cat like dubcnn is smart, you know? I think Kurupt's as smart as Nas at least.
King: you can look it at like that sure, but I was just assessing each DP album.
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Kurupt is smart but not in the same way say...a cat like dubcnn is smart, you know? I think Kurupt's as smart as Nas at least.
King: you can look it at like that sure, but I was just assessing each DP album.
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Music wise?
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Kurupt is smart but not in the same way say...a cat like dubcnn is smart, you know? I think Kurupt's as smart as Nas at least.
King: you can look it at like that sure, but I was just assessing each DP album.
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Music wise?
yeah, didn't you read the first post of this thread?
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Kurupt is smart but not in the same way say...a cat like dubcnn is smart, you know? I think Kurupt's as smart as Nas at least.
King: you can look it at like that sure, but I was just assessing each DP album.
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Music wise?
yeah, didn't you read the first post of this thread?
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I had the second post so I did. And Kurupt is my favorite like I said, but I don't think his lyrics were ever as smart as Nas's were. I never felt he got as deep as Nas, but was a more vicious rhymer. The only time he was at that point was during Dogg Food, Gotti would be my Westcoast favorite and Nas and Buckshot ( who was on Kuruption ) are my favorite East coast.
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Kurupt is smart but not in the same way say...a cat like dubcnn is smart, you know? I think Kurupt's as smart as Nas at least.
King: you can look it at like that sure, but I was just assessing each DP album.
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Music wise?
yeah, didn't you read the first post of this thread?
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I had the second post so I did. And Kurupt is my favorite like I said, but I don't think his lyrics were ever as smart as Nas's were. I never felt he got as deep as Nas, but was a more vicious rhymer. The only time he was at that point was during Dogg Food, Gotti would be my Westcoast favorite and Nas and Buckshot ( who was on Kuruption ) are my favorite East coast.
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I agree, Kurupt's not quite as smart as Nas rap-wise but I don't think Nas is necessarily that much smarter of a person. but hey, we don't really know.
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Kurupt is smart but not in the same way say...a cat like dubcnn is smart, you know? I think Kurupt's as smart as Nas at least.
King: you can look it at like that sure, but I was just assessing each DP album.
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Music wise?
yeah, didn't you read the first post of this thread?
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I had the second post so I did. And Kurupt is my favorite like I said, but I don't think his lyrics were ever as smart as Nas's were. I never felt he got as deep as Nas, but was a more vicious rhymer. The only time he was at that point was during Dogg Food, Gotti would be my Westcoast favorite and Nas and Buckshot ( who was on Kuruption ) are my favorite East coast.
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I agree, Kurupt's not quite as smart as Nas rap-wise but I don't think Nas is necessarily that much smarter of a person. but hey, we don't really know.
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I didn't say that homie, I just meant that Nas comes off as a fool in interviews while Kurupt sounds more level headed. Music wise, they are the opposites of there interview selves.
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lol i made the nas kurupt comparison cuz of "smart" rap nas was the first one to come to my mind, could also have said krs-one, guru or a cat like that, you know.
kurupt in his lyrics just sounds straight stupid. simple. i dunno bout interviews havent read too many of em, so i cant judge, but this thread was about music, and kurupt makes stupid music, nas on the other hand reflects on things and stuff, you know thats different. but i like both styles. im down with any good dpg release and any good other release put out. 8)
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I don't necessarily feel all of Kurupt's music is stupid. I was about to list a bunch of songs but I realized it would be better just to say that simple does not necessarily equal stupid.
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Well it doesnt need an explanation as well that Kurupt's lyrics on, lets say, Same Day Different Shit are not too smart, and i can name other songs/albums.
His lyrics arent simple, maybe nowadays, but back in the Chronic days he didnt say shit either, but he used metaphors etc. his lyrics werent simple back then, but just stupid cuz he never really said anything besides the usual bitch stuff and brag and boast stuff.
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Well it doesnt need an explanation as well that Kurupt's lyrics on, lets say, Same Day Different Shit are not too smart, and i can name other songs/albums.
His lyrics arent simple, maybe nowadays, but back in the Chronic days he didnt say shit either, but he used metaphors etc. his lyrics werent simple back then, but just stupid cuz he never really said anything besides the usual bitch stuff and brag and boast stuff.
Uh...well I guess that's subjective. I like songs like 'good azz day' and 'hittin' donuts in the street' as well as 'game', 'under pressure', 'it's a set up' all for the lyricality and message of the songs. good azz day and hittin donuts conveys a simple happiness in the simple things in life. it's a perfectly mature and relatable feeling to have and communicate. Game from Kuruption is dope because spitting game about game, and that takes cleverness. under pressure conveys an understanding of the human struggle in a simplistic way that hip hop often does 'we all are...under pressure' just like pac says 'don't stop, keep goin'' you know? a perfectly intelligent idea to communicate.
also songs like hollywood bank robbery, c-walkin cha cha cha, and loose cannons detail heists in clever ways and I don't think anything clever can also be called 'dumb'. also songs like 'trylogy', 'fuck da world' and even chronic/DS era stuff he plays with words in complex ways and all that requires intelligence. he references demons like nosferatu and shit, and such imagery always colors lyrics.
furthermore, I find anyone doing something musically well intelligent so if Miles Davis' ain't saying shit when he blows his horn...is his music's message stupid? Nah, he's damn good at making damn good music come out of his instrument. Kurupt (at his best) can be considered a virtuoso the way a cat like Dizzy Gilespie is a virtuoso you know? I don't see anything stupid about that...
I think you are referring to the lack of progressivity and repetitiveness of his topics which I can totally agree on. I can even say that he has alot of stupid songs but to leave it at 'Kurupt makes stupid music' I think is kind of a ridiculous blanket statement.
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I thought Kurupt's lyrics on Dogg Chit were as tight as they have been in recent times, he killed the 3 bonus cuts as well as songs as 1 N 1 Out, Mo Murder, Where U From, he does end his bars with nigga and muthafucka alot so it is stupid to some but he rhymes the word before it so it doesn't really bother me that much
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I thought Kurupt's lyrics on Dogg Chit were as tight as they have been in recent times, he killed the 3 bonus cuts as well as songs as 1 N 1 Out, Mo Murder, Where U From, he does end his bars with nigga and muthafucka alot so it is stupid to some but he rhymes the word before it so it doesn't really bother me that much
exactly +1
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I thought Kurupt's lyrics on Dogg Chit were as tight as they have been in recent times, he killed the 3 bonus cuts as well as songs as 1 N 1 Out, Mo Murder, Where U From, he does end his bars with nigga and muthafucka alot so it is stupid to some but he rhymes the word before it so it doesn't really bother me that much
exactly +1
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+1 to u homey
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Why does Same Day Different Shit get so much hate on this board?
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Why does Same Day Different Shit get so much hate on this board?
i gotta give it some more listens but I'll give you a few reasons
a)songs feel like daz/kurupt growing through the motions, not really passionate or trying hard to sound exceptional or be musically creative.
b)same things I don't like about DC, the funky tracks are dope but the dark murderous tracks usually don't work as well imo
c)I know I always say albums need to be shorter but what I mean by this is the albums need to be denser with the good tracks, you know? This album is short and not that dense with dopeness so had it been longer there would have been more dope tracks.
I like Kurupt's intro alot too though, now that i think about it.
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Why does Same Day Different Shit get so much hate on this board?
i gotta give it some more listens but I'll give you a few reasons
a)songs feel like daz/kurupt growing through the motions, not really passionate or trying hard to sound exceptional or be musically creative.
b)same things I don't like about DC, the funky tracks are dope but the dark murderous tracks usually don't work as well imo
c)I know I always say albums need to be shorter but what I mean by this is the albums need to be denser with the good tracks, you know? This album is short and not that dense with dopeness so had it been longer there would have been more dope tracks.
I like Kurupt's intro alot too though, now that i think about it.
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I don't think it is Dogg Food quality but it has alot of dope cuts on there. My track of choice right now is Accessories (Nina Breeda) and Gangstas Pt 2 is the most lyrical, energetic Kurupt I have heard on the mic in a long time. I thought the length was cool, and it sounded like he took his time with it.
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i remember liking that song accessories. i'll have to give it another listen, maybe it's one of those really dope records that just doesn't grab you the first time. i remember being disappointed with gangstaz part 2.
also, the song "i get high 2" where is the part one?
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i remember liking that song accessories. i'll have to give it another listen, maybe it's one of those really dope records that just doesn't grab you the first time. i remember being disappointed with gangstaz part 2.
also, the song "i get high 2" where is the part one?
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It just means me too, I get high also. Listen to accessories. It is a dope Daz beat and Kurupt's cadence on it is sick. He is flowing with the beat sooo cold. Like I said, Gangstas Pt 2 is the lyrical content of both Daz and Kurupt. The beat drains out alot of the lyrics because it is so loud and busy but they are killin it on there. I want them to do a remix to it with a different beat though.
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i remember liking that song accessories. i'll have to give it another listen, maybe it's one of those really dope records that just doesn't grab you the first time. i remember being disappointed with gangstaz part 2.
also, the song "i get high 2" where is the part one?
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It just means me too, I get high also. Listen to accessories. It is a dope Daz beat and Kurupt's cadence on it is sick. He is flowing with the beat sooo cold. Like I said, Gangstas Pt 2 is the lyrical content of both Daz and Kurupt. The beat drains out alot of the lyrics because it is so loud and busy but they are killin it on there. I want them to do a remix to it with a different beat though.
yeah i remember not hearing it well cause the beat, didn't even realize daz was on the song lol
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It is a shitty ass beat from Daz, but lyrically it is a gem.
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It is a shitty ass beat from Daz, but lyrically it is a gem.
damn, gonna check this all out.
been bumpin that damizza/butch alot. i need to blaze to just about every track on the bitch!
also, have been bumping XXplosive NONSTOP since i bought 2001 again (haven't had a copy in 5 years)
and no matter where i go and just another day from Nate's g funk classics. the damizza/butch record inspired me to play just another day cause Butch is on that with a cool little verse.
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It is a shitty ass beat from Daz, but lyrically it is a gem.
damn, gonna check this all out.
been bumpin that damizza/butch alot. i need to blaze to just about every track on the bitch!
also, have been bumping XXplosive NONSTOP since i bought 2001 again (haven't had a copy in 5 years)
and no matter where i go and just another day from Nate's g funk classics. the damizza/butch record inspired me to play just another day cause Butch is on that with a cool little verse.
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I was just listening to Butch/Damizza. I was telling my boy Lunatic that I bumped that at a barbeque I had on Easter Sunday and it was the perfect music for it. Everybody was chilling, having a good time and the music was a perfect backdrop. XXplosive has one of the coldest beats. I actually like Kurupt's verse now. I love the way he kicked in the intro of that verse. I thought he was going to rip that beat to shreds but he just went off on a bitch. ;D
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yeah, I always liked the verse.
"imperial pistols ferocious" kicking it off does make you think he's gonna be more lyrical than he proceeds to be
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yeah, I always liked the verse.
"imperial pistols ferocious" kicking it off does make you think he's gonna be more lyrical than he proceeds to be
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I was like ahh shit he is going to kill this. Nothing beats how he killed that I Got My Mind Made Up.
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yeah, I always liked the verse.
"imperial pistols ferocious" kicking it off does make you think he's gonna be more lyrical than he proceeds to be
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I was like ahh shit he is going to kill this. Nothing beats how he killed that I Got My Mind Made Up.
you know, i've never bought AEOM cause i've never seen it for a decent price so I can probably count on one hand how many times i've heard that song. cause I don't wanna burn the LP cause then it'll take forever again for me to buy it but yeah, looking forward to the day when I see AEOM for sale closer to 20 than 30 dollars.
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I thought Gangstaz pt.2's beat was one of Daz's best in awhile.
Nothing against the dark murderous shit Daz & Co. have been going for lately but all throughout DC it sounds uninspired. The only "dark" tracks I've liked from Daz with strong musical instrumentation have been Rat-A-Tat-Tat and a majority of the SDDS shit surprisingly. DC I dont even bump anymore. :\
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I thought Gangstaz pt.2's beat was one of Daz's best in awhile.
Nothing against the dark murderous shit Daz & Co. have been going for lately but all throughout DC it sounds uninspired. The only "dark" tracks I've liked from Daz with strong musical instrumentation have been Rat-A-Tat-Tat and a majority of the SDDS shit surprisingly. DC I dont even bump anymore. :\
the dark shit really kills alot of DC for me but all the G funk is still top notch, still feels and sounds fresh like they did it in 96 if that makes sense.
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Daz' "dat's that nigga" and "blast em up" are dope.
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yeah Vibe/Where U From/Throw Ya Hood Up/Good Azz Day/Bucc-Em/excedra all of that shits good. Same with Everybody Givin It Up/Thats The Way We Ride/excedra off DPGCLP, all of the smooth modernized g-funk cuts are great. But then 1-4 other tracks feel exactly like Mo Murder, but it may just be that track specifically that irks me. Still though, those are minor problems [at best] because it hasnt even been out a month so it hasnt really marinated with me. I'll make a final judgement 1-2 years from now.
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I thought Gangstaz pt.2's beat was one of Daz's best in awhile.
Nothing against the dark murderous shit Daz & Co. have been going for lately but all throughout DC it sounds uninspired. The only "dark" tracks I've liked from Daz with strong musical instrumentation have been Rat-A-Tat-Tat and a majority of the SDDS shit surprisingly. DC I dont even bump anymore. :\
I think the beat drowns out the vocals a little too much on Gangstas Pt. 2. Still one of my favorite cuts lyrically though. It is as dope if not better than any verses Kurupt spit on the last 2 DP albums.
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^^ agreed all around.
"first options nothin, fuck second or third
for the fifth, you wont be around or heard"
four-fifth = gun, hence "around or heard".
Even though I got the setup line wrong, the rhyme and punchline line are correct. His wordplays here are over the top on SDDS. Coordinated SPECIALLY/ESPECIALLY on GPT2;
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I don't know, I just listened to D&YG1 for the first time and I'm not feelin it. None of the beats really grab me, and Daz and Kurupt both sound like they're just going through the motions imo. When I put on a song from the album I'm never anticipating their verses or anything - i just expect the standard daz/kurupt shit.
Plus, besides Xzibit, Roscoe and Beans there's no features to look forward to/help ease the monotony. No Snoop/Nate on a DPG album just feels wrong.
I did like the following songs: Shit Happens, At Night, DPG, Best Run, Coastin, Livin Gangsta Like, How Many, There's Someway Out
Some others are alright, like Dipp Wit Me & You're Jus a BITCH but most of them drag on for too long - the hooks/beats are weak, and can't sustain the length of the songs. Thats kinda like the album itself - there's too many wack songs and it makes listening to the album as a whole too difficult. I read the TC say earlier that if an album has 10 great songs then its good, but not for me. An album for me has to be consistent from beginning to end... and the countless filler hurts the overall product. Maybe if I burn a shorter version with my favs from 2002 and the solos that came around at the time I might feel it more.
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I don't know, I just listened to D&YG1 for the first time and I'm not feelin it. None of the beats really grab me, and Daz and Kurupt both sound like they're just going through the motions imo. When I put on a song from the album I'm never anticipating their verses or anything - i just expect the standard daz/kurupt shit.
Plus, besides Xzibit, Roscoe and Beans there's no features to look forward to/help ease the monotony. No Snoop/Nate on a DPG album just feels wrong.
I did like the following songs: Shit Happens, At Night, DPG, Best Run, Coastin, Livin Gangsta Like, How Many, There's Someway Out
Some others are alright, like Dipp Wit Me & You're Jus a BITCH but most of them drag on for too long - the hooks/beats are weak, and can't sustain the length of the songs. Thats kinda like the album itself - there's too many wack songs and it makes listening to the album as a whole too difficult. I read the TC say earlier that if an album has 10 great songs then its good, but not for me. An album for me has to be consistent from beginning to end... and the countless filler hurts the overall product. Maybe if I burn a shorter version with my favs from 2002 and the solos that came around at the time I might feel it more.
For me Kurupts lyrics was poor on this album compared to 2002 where he rips every track but most of those songs were Death Row leftovers and he was on top of his game
I thought the beats though were great on Dillinger & Young Gotti but I like 2002 better overall
great thread 8)
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2002 better than d&yg?!? tha fuck outta here!! 2002 was just some fuckin leftovers n random dpg affiliated b/s...i didn't even sound like a real album to me...more like a wack ass cheap ass compilation...
i loved that d&yg album...i remember bumpin it for months when it came out! i was really feelin it...it still is their best group album after dogg food to me 8)
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Where the fuck is Tanj? I haven't seen him on here in forever!!!
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u forgot tha dogg pound 2002 album, that is a dope album
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I don't know, I just listened to D&YG1 for the first time and I'm not feelin it. None of the beats really grab me, and Daz and Kurupt both sound like they're just going through the motions imo. When I put on a song from the album I'm never anticipating their verses or anything - i just expect the standard daz/kurupt shit.
Plus, besides Xzibit, Roscoe and Beans there's no features to look forward to/help ease the monotony. No Snoop/Nate on a DPG album just feels wrong.
I did like the following songs: Shit Happens, At Night, DPG, Best Run, Coastin, Livin Gangsta Like, How Many, There's Someway Out
Some others are alright, like Dipp Wit Me & You're Jus a BITCH but most of them drag on for too long - the hooks/beats are weak, and can't sustain the length of the songs. Thats kinda like the album itself - there's too many wack songs and it makes listening to the album as a whole too difficult. I read the TC say earlier that if an album has 10 great songs then its good, but not for me. An album for me has to be consistent from beginning to end... and the countless filler hurts the overall product. Maybe if I burn a shorter version with my favs from 2002 and the solos that came around at the time I might feel it more.
Where are you located?
Also look at the time of year....you gotta bump DYG (and most DPG records for that matter) in the summer.
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I don't know, I just listened to D&YG1 for the first time and I'm not feelin it. None of the beats really grab me, and Daz and Kurupt both sound like they're just going through the motions imo. When I put on a song from the album I'm never anticipating their verses or anything - i just expect the standard daz/kurupt shit.
Plus, besides Xzibit, Roscoe and Beans there's no features to look forward to/help ease the monotony. No Snoop/Nate on a DPG album just feels wrong.
I did like the following songs: Shit Happens, At Night, DPG, Best Run, Coastin, Livin Gangsta Like, How Many, There's Someway Out
Some others are alright, like Dipp Wit Me & You're Jus a BITCH but most of them drag on for too long - the hooks/beats are weak, and can't sustain the length of the songs. Thats kinda like the album itself - there's too many wack songs and it makes listening to the album as a whole too difficult. I read the TC say earlier that if an album has 10 great songs then its good, but not for me. An album for me has to be consistent from beginning to end... and the countless filler hurts the overall product. Maybe if I burn a shorter version with my favs from 2002 and the solos that came around at the time I might feel it more.
Where are you located?
Also look at the time of year....you gotta bump DYG (and most DPG records for that matter) in the summer.
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Vancouver... But I love alot of westcoast shit (thats why I'm on this forum), so I don't see how that should change anything.
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Context is everything, man. Bump it in the summer; while driving. Trust.
I usually can't even listen to hip-hop in the winter.
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these 2 tracks from the last 2 albums have that summertime feel
Cali Iz Active 8)
Its A Good Azz Day 8)
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these 2 tracks from the last 2 albums have that summertime feel
Cali Iz Active 8)
Its A Good Azz Day 8)
+1 It'z A Good Azz Day had excellent production, but I wasn't too impressed lyrically or by their flow on that. Cali Iz Active was playing all over the east coast here back when it came out, which I was pleasantly surprised about.
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these 2 tracks from the last 2 albums have that summertime feel
Cali Iz Active 8)
Its A Good Azz Day 8)
+1 It'z A Good Azz Day had excellent production, but I wasn't too impressed lyrically or by their flow on that. Cali Iz Active was playing all over the east coast here back when it came out, which I was pleasantly surprised about.
props J 8)
here in LA Cali IZ Active was getting crazy play too but the album didn't sell too well :(
I like that track Don't Sweat It from CIA some good flows on that
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"Dillinger & Young Gotti" is a personal classic of mine, both the production and the way that Daz and Kurupt trade verses and flow off each other is unbelievable on that album. As far as lyrically Kurupt wasn't really battle rapping like he did on "Dogg Food" he was mostly spitting gangsta verses on this one and it went really well with the whole theme of the album. As far as "2002" goes I enjoyed that album for the unreleased tracks, I know there were a few that were already on "R.A.W." on that one but the joints like "Smoke" and "Every Single Day" are classic Dogg Pound tracks. I though "Dogg Chit" was an improvement over "Cali Iz Active" as far as iit seemed more like a Daz and Kurupt album than a compilation which CIA had the feel of. I know DPG gets alot of hate but overall they have a very tight discography.
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"Dillinger & Young Gotti" is a personal classic of mine, both the production and the way that Daz and Kurupt trade verses and flow off each other is unbelievable on that album. As far as lyrically Kurupt wasn't really battle rapping like he did on "Dogg Food" he was mostly spitting gangsta verses on this one and it went really well with the whole theme of the album. As far as "2002" goes I enjoyed that album for the unreleased tracks, I know there were a few that were already on "R.A.W." on that one but the joints like "Smoke" and "Every Single Day" are classic Dogg Pound tracks. I though "Dogg Chit" was an improvement over "Cali Iz Active" as far as iit seemed more like a Daz and Kurupt album than a compilation which CIA had the feel of. I know DPG gets alot of hate but overall they have a very tight discography.
Co-Sign 8)
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I liked CIA better than DC but they both have some heaters.
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Kurupt really needs to step up lyrically and Daz really needs to step up his production or DPG is gonna end their career on a slump lol.
100 Wayz coming soon...
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i'm not expecting them to step anything up per se but they should fill their albums with more tracks like
'good azz day' and 'where u from' from DC because it's their strong suit
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i'm not expecting them to step anything up per se but they should fill their albums with more tracks like
'good azz day' and 'where u from' from DC because it's their strong suit
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+1 both dope songs 8)
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I don't know what's up with the hate on "Dillinger & Young Gotti 2", that album is bangin from start to end. Couple of weak songs, but that's it.
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I don't know what's up with the hate on "Dillinger & Young Gotti 2", that album is bangin from start to end. Couple of weak songs, but that's it.
yea, it's got replay value for sure. I was listening to it the other night for the first time in a while. I love the smooth g-funk DPG brings to the table here.
unfortunately, like other ppl said, the first D&YG just drags on and has almost NO replay value. I actually threw out that album after a month.
Dogg Food still gets occasional spins from me. it's a classic, hands down.
CIA is another story. the only songs that stuck out to me were:
- Sittin' On 23'z
- Slow Your Roll
- Keep It Gangsta
DC, ugh, only maybe three songs I even continue to spin:
- Vibe
- 1 N 1 Out
- Bucc'em
I don't even listen to DPG anymore as a whole. I usually listen to Kurupt/Daz's solo shit mostly (since I've gotten into east coast/south more-so within the last year). I've been really disappointed with them and since listening to more modern west coast music, their shit just seems to drag on and not interest me. I pretty much gave up on Daz.
however, I'm still looking forward to Kurupt's solo shit coming out soon.
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Related threads;;
Thoughts on Kurupt after finally hearing the discography (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=141480.0)
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Thoughts on Daz after finally hearing the discography (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=144697.0)
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Convos about Dogg Food;
As far as Dogg Food goes initially the NY NY song was supposed to be a tribute song about NY but after what happened in the Source awards in 1995 with Death Row getting booed and Suge making the comments about Puffy really instigated the whole East/West beef and that Dogg Food album was kind of revamped oriiginally it was to feature East Coast artists 2 songs in particula,r Don't Stop with Nas and Got My Mind Made Up with Method Man, Redman and Inspectah Deck were supposed to be on there but Suge took them off and gave Got My Mind Made Up to Pac and removed Deck's verse and Don't Stop was also given to Pac and eventually released later on with Daz releasing the original version on The Last Of Tha Pound. I feel that album could've been uniting the 2 coasts and maybe the East/West thing would've never happened I mean it really was just a personal thing between Pac and Big. As far as the released version goes it sure did make an impact here in NY because it made us take notice when Kurupt basically lyrically assassinated us on our own shit. The East was forever talking about how the West does not have dope MC's that they are just about the beats and Kurupt perfected the combination of West coast gangsta rhymes mixed with East coast battle raps on that record.
Coming to the Doggfood issue,hmmm. I lived in NYC at the time too.
So I definatly know what youīre talking about.
I agree that the Pac VS Biggie beef was personal,but we both know that East VS West beef was not about that.
It was about the biased ass "NYC critics",that is another topic that the OG post should trigger a convo about.
I had had a lot of heatet arguements with my boys back then about this.
Is the album dope and a West Coast classic?
No doubt about it,but again itīs a extension of Doggystyle so it could be dismissed on that premise.
But it wasnīt another Dre produced project,Daz did his own thing and Kurupt came correct showing that the west could hang with the East on the mic. So yes this album should also be up for debate for the overall classic status.
When it comes to the Cube albums I donīt agree,they might be personal favorites/classics,but far from overall classics.
Death Certificate and AmeriKKKas Most Wanted yes,even if I personally donīt feel AmeriKKKas Most Wanted I canīt front that it was a important album for itīs time. Personally I take Predator and Lethal Injection over it,but thatīs subjective opinion.
yeah its hard for me not to be biased about Dogg Food cause it might be my favorite album of all time definitely in my top 5, overall classic well it is definitely not cut and dry very debatable and I would like to compare it favorably to an east coast album that came out the same year Mobb Deep The Infamous. Now I would put Dogg Food right up there with Mobb Deep's album you had Shook Ones Pt II which was one of the alltime coldest rap joints off of The Infamous and then you have N.Y.N.Y off of Dogg Food which is comparable in the same sense. Both albums had MC's who were considered to be probably top 10-15 at the time and both had partners who were dope producers in Havoc and Daz. Were it not for the East/West contreversy I would tend to think that the NY critics might have had a different view on Dogg Food as far as its classic status
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Mobb Deep with Shook Ones had a stronger single,but Dogg Food is a more consistent album.
Maybe,I'm just saying maybe... if Dogg Food had some stronger singles to lead the album it would have made a difference?
good point, I was confused to what Dogg Food's lead single was gonna be because I had seen something on MTV a little before the album was supposed to come out and they had I think Kurupt playing "Respect" in a car and saying something to the effect that it would be the first single and all of a sudden the "Let's Play House" video comes out and I was like wtf but I guess commercially that was a pretty radio friendly track with Michelle but maybe if they would have led off the album with "NY, NY" I think it would have packed a bigger punch initially. I think another factor was the East Coast West Coast thing had just popped off and I remember NY radio at the time started to lay off the west coast tracks around 1995 so the album suffered in NYC and didn't have the impact that previous Death Row releases had here. I just listened to the album over the weekend and its really hard for me not to consider it a classic the production on this by Daz and the 2 DJ Pooh tracks is amazing alot of people forget that and see no Dre production but Dre did mix the album which makes a world of difference and I'm not so sure he didn't have a hand in some of the production of it as well
Youīre right I heard "Respect" on the radio a couple of months before on the radio as well,
got a little confused because Dre speaks in the beginning but it didnīt sound like a Dre production.
I wasnīt sure who would produce the album before it dropped,because of all the conflicting rumors and talk in interviews.
Then they pick "Letīs play house",a terrible track in my opinion. Definatily not a track for the East Coast,so this could be a factor.
how would you personally rate the album?
and how would you rate it if you try to be as objective as possible?
Personal rating; 4/5 thereīs a couple of tracks that got to go.
Objective rating; 4/5 thatīs only musicallly/lyrically speaking. (because of some of the weaker cuts)
Thereīs other aspects to be considered,like Iīve discussed with HighEyeCue and others in this thread before.
This album made some serious damage when it came out and still getīs mad love,
but if you compare to The Chronic well then it comes short. :-\
So to rate it is really tuff,but then again look at all those East Coast albums that only had local buzz that got rave ratings.
Just because a album only or for the most spoke to the west coast,doesnīt mean it lacks the qualities of a classic.
But again this shit is hard.....
thanks for the Rap Pages review Chad I remember reading it back then in 1996, my favorite album of all time, lets for arguments sake put Can't C Me on like it was supposed to be, definitely puts it over the hump and is a CLASSIC album 5/5 :laugh:
ohh well,I donīt know about that.
But Iīll do a serious breakdown of Dogg Food,Niggaz 4 Life,Regulate and Bow Down.
To see what I come up with myself.... :P
Is there any more albums that we have discussed that should have been granted a classic status?
Dogg Pound; Dogg Food;
-1. Intro
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
Dope intro
2. Doggpound Gangstaz
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
Kurupt absolutely KILLS it,the beat is fire. CLASSIC!
3. Respect
Lyrics; 8
Beat; 5
Donīt feel the beat,but Kurupt kills it so...
4. New York, New York
Lyrics; 8
Beat; 5
I know a lot of you cats LOVE this track,but I think itīs average. Sorry.
Iīll give you that Kurupt kills it tho...
5. Smooth
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
Like the name of the track itīs smooth... love it.
Again Kurupt kills it.
6. Cyco-Lic-No
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
Love it....
7. Riden Slipen And Sliden
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
Smooth...
8. Big Pimpen
Lyrics; 6
Beat; 6
Average
9. Let's Play House
Lyrics; 5
Beat; 2
Never liked it,donīt like it now. Terrible break.....
10. I Don't Like To Dream About Gettin' Paid
Lyrics; 5
Beat; 5
Donīt feel it,again terrible break....
11. Do What I Feel
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
This is more my shit,tight beat and Kurupt....
12. If We All
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
Simply love how they trade rhymes back and forth... classic
13. Some Bomb Azz
Lyrics; 10
Beat; 10
Smooth...
14. A Doggz Day After Noon
Lyrics: 10
Beat; 10
Some gangster shit... loving it
15. Reality
Lyrics; 6
Beat; 6
Average
16. One By One
Lyrics; 6
Beat; 6
Average
17. Sooo Much Style
Lyrics; 8
Beat; 8
cool
280/340 that should leave my PERSONAL rating around 3.5
it still feels like 4 when I dump the tracks I donīt feel.
Pluss;
I might have been a little too hard on it and the album has qualities that could qualify as a classic.
Here you go HighEyeCue a Dogg Food review,as you can see they gave it 7 out of 10 (3.5/5). >:(
294 Dogg Pound; Dogg Food review in Rap Pages January 1996
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2242/2243885325_0197948254_b.jpg)
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As far as Dogg Food goes initially the NY NY song was supposed to be a tribute song about NY but after what happened in the Source awards in 1995 with Death Row getting booed and Suge making the comments about Puffy really instigated the whole East/West beef.
I don't know where did you get this from, but i got the 1995 Source Awards on DVD and most of the people were feeling Death Row, i can't hear them gettin booed.