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Title: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: GATMAN on August 13, 2009, 06:02:28 PM
http://2dopeboyz.okayplayer.com/2009/08/13/bobby-creekwater-leaves-shadyaftermath-video/


Obie Trice, Stat Quo and now him!  Is D-12 next?
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: dubsmith_nz on August 13, 2009, 06:10:01 PM
Knew this would happen as soon as he signed him, he just doesn't have that Shady feel...
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: D-Nice on August 13, 2009, 06:16:30 PM
Knew this would happen as soon as he signed him, he just doesn't have that Shady feel...

Yeah I thought the same. Shady missed that whole Down South movement that G-Unit and other labels dropped albums during that time. That and after the Re-Up, no promo was done after that.
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: JohnnyL on August 13, 2009, 06:20:48 PM
 Is Cashis still on the label?  If he is, I bet he'll be the next to go.
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on August 13, 2009, 06:23:58 PM
he might leave...but damn he also has shady capo inked on him...lol



Is Cashis still on the label?  If he is, I bet he'll be the next to go.
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: Moe on August 13, 2009, 06:26:02 PM
i never thought he was good.
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: JohnnyL on August 13, 2009, 06:34:08 PM
he might leave...but damn he also has shady capo inked on him...lol



Is Cashis still on the label?  If he is, I bet he'll be the next to go.

 Don't worry.  With all the other tats dude has, no one will notice. lol  Actually, I think Cashis and Bobby Creekwater are both talented rappers.  I particularly liked Bobby Creek's rapping style.  I don't think most of these guys are leaving because of disloyalty.  I think they're leaving because they're left with few other options.  I like Shady Records music (when they are actually able to put music out), but for whatever reason, they're not really getting the job done with these releases.  Most of the stuff doesn't end up dropping at all.  You take a guy like Stat Quo. I think Stat would have been perfectly happy putting out albums for Shady Records, but they kept putting the guy on the back burner.  And I'm sure these guys are faced with staying on board and risking further push backs or cutting their losses and looking for different labels to release their respective projects.  It's a shame.
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on August 13, 2009, 06:36:58 PM
lol yeah he is filled wit em, but its on his hand clearly anyway
the rap game isnt the same anymore and the big tuff jew only wants what will make money
at least obie came thru wit some dope muzik
FUCK THA INDUSTRY




he might leave...but damn he also has shady capo inked on him...lol



Is Cashis still on the label?  If he is, I bet he'll be the next to go.

 Don't worry.  With all the other tats dude has, no one will notice. lol  Actually, I think Cashis and Bobby Creekwater are both talented rappers.  I particularly liked Bobby Creek's rapping style.  I don't think most of these guys are leaving because of disloyalty.  I think they're leaving because they're left with few other options.  I like Shady Records music (when they are actually able to put music out), but for whatever reason, they're not really getting the job done with these releases.  Most of the stuff doesn't end up dropping at all.  You take a guy like Stat Quo. I think Stat would have been perfectly happy putting out albums for Shady Records, but they kept putting the guy on the back burner.  And I'm sure these guys are faced with staying on board and risking further push backs or cutting their losses and looking for different labels to release their respective projects.  It's a shame.
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: Action! on August 13, 2009, 06:43:36 PM
Stop hating on the jews.  Don't get mad you can't get caked up like so many of them.

Bobby Creewkater is dope.  I appreciate his approach.  He always fed his fanbase and never made himself a large public contradiction.  For example, he was signed to Shady but it didn't mean he was riding or dieing for Shady so he can leave the label without looking foolish.

Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on August 13, 2009, 06:45:35 PM
nah im jus playin action
my fam are actually rich....i jus choose not to live off them
but they are muffuccaz out there hatin jew people....maybe on here
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 13, 2009, 07:04:56 PM
good move for him & his career...kinda.

he ain't blowin' up regardless.
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: Action! on August 13, 2009, 07:27:53 PM
No, he probably won't ever reach the level of stardom 50 or Kanye has but not everyone can.  His music is still dope.
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: D-TalkX on August 13, 2009, 07:28:08 PM
it's all branding. u put something out not even close to Em or 50 then ur bringing the brand down in essence...Obie's first album was sick cuz 50, Em and Dre oversaw it. the second they leave him be to be left alone the quality suffered so he had to bounce because he jeopardized the labels image with less than greatness (based on mainstream status).*The same can be said about 50's latest efforts) Signing to a label with heavy hitters that the label brands with is never going to be good unless you are happy with standing in the back row and collecting measily points. But if you're a true artist you will think you are too good for that, then leave and go flop on your own haha. Lloyd Banks is next, Stat Quo, etc...they aren't as dope without the million dollar beats and incredible writers.


but that's just my opinion
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: D-TalkX on August 13, 2009, 07:29:11 PM
oh and did I mention Hittman?
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: Invincible on August 13, 2009, 07:38:36 PM
Another artist off the label/s. The list is getting pretty long now. It was the right thing to do but its a shame.

He should change that EP with Alchemist into an album now. Would like that alot.
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: Jaydc555 on August 13, 2009, 10:06:32 PM
Does shady aftermath or g unit even exist anymore.I think that umbrella has taken over death row for the biggest waste of talent ever.Yes they do have sales but they could be ten times what they are with a long line of releases.Stat quo would have gone plat if they dropped his album back in the day
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 13, 2009, 10:10:38 PM
Does shady aftermath or g unit even exist anymore.I think that umbrella has taken over death row for the biggest waste of talent ever.Yes they do have sales but they could be ten times what they are with a long line of releases.Stat quo would have gone plat if they dropped his album back in the day

as long as Eminem drops albums, those labels will be around.

he was top selling in every country in the world, that's not even funny lol.

somebody worded it well in another thread about something like what you said; "if Shady/Aftermath is done, every label is done" lol.
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: Jaydc555 on August 13, 2009, 10:13:15 PM
Does shady aftermath or g unit even exist anymore.I think that umbrella has taken over death row for the biggest waste of talent ever.Yes they do have sales but they could be ten times what they are with a long line of releases.Stat quo would have gone plat if they dropped his album back in the day

as long as Eminem drops albums, those labels will be around.

he was top selling in every country in the world, that's not even funny lol.

somebody worded it well in another thread about something like what you said; "if Shady/Aftermath is done, every label is done" lol.
I think eminem is done after relapse 2
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: Muhfukka on August 13, 2009, 10:15:21 PM
theres a rapper called bobby creekwater? what the fuck
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 13, 2009, 10:17:24 PM
Does shady aftermath or g unit even exist anymore.I think that umbrella has taken over death row for the biggest waste of talent ever.Yes they do have sales but they could be ten times what they are with a long line of releases.Stat quo would have gone plat if they dropped his album back in the day

as long as Eminem drops albums, those labels will be around.

he was top selling in every country in the world, that's not even funny lol.

somebody worded it well in another thread about something like what you said; "if Shady/Aftermath is done, every label is done" lol.
I think eminem is done after relapse 2

i have to agree with you; if you listen to the song Beautiful on Relapse, he basically admits he's done & he has to find something else.

he will go down as one of the GOAT.

but i mean when he's done putting out albums & Dre is done after Detox (it will eventually drop) & 50 "claims" he is done after BISD; they could all just sit back & help the new guys pump out music.

Em is learning from hands down the best producer in rap history & since they have no albums of their own to work on, they can help the youth & with the names Eminem, Dr. Dre & 50 Cent behind you, you're in good shape.
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on August 13, 2009, 10:20:04 PM
lol
damn its better he got dropped, how you not gon know bout bobby

and on the slim note
you could tell slim wasnt the same on relapse
prolly no point to even look forward to relapse 2





theres a rapper called bobby creekwater? what the fuck
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: Jaydc555 on August 13, 2009, 10:20:56 PM
Eminem really dropped the ball at shady.Obie was fucking fire i love both his albums.Stat quo is criminally slept on.The mixtapes he put out after leaving are insane.Most people write him off without actually listening to his music.Cashis has grown on me a lot.I still want to know why kuniva and kon artis havent dropped an album together their back and forth chemistry is perfect.
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on August 13, 2009, 10:21:53 PM
FUCK THA INDUSTRY
jimmy dont want to take a chance...why should muffuccaz support their record companies?
granted rappers are hurt cuz of less units bein moved, but why help the guy at the top?
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 13, 2009, 10:27:35 PM
Eminem really dropped the ball at shady.Obie was fucking fire i love both his albums.Stat quo is criminally slept on.The mixtapes he put out after leaving are insane.Most people write him off without actually listening to his music.Cashis has grown on me a lot.I still want to know why kuniva and kon artis havent dropped an album together their back and forth chemistry is perfect.

agreed 1,000%.

i've been a fan of Ca$his ever since hearing "The County Hound EP", what a fuckin' EP lol.

Stat was shit while signed, never liked much of his shit, except "Like Dat" which dropped in like 2003, LMAO; but then when he got released those mixtapes & internet leaked joints were HEAT! :o

Obie's "Cheers" is basically a personal classic to me; it has some holes in it, but i could bump that album all day. he didn't disappoint on "2nd Rounds On Me"; but i didn't think it was as good as "Cheers". definatly one of the most underrated rappers in the game.

personally, i'd just like a new D-12 album & just let Obie be all over that album in the TERRIBLE gap of no Proof (RIP); but a Kon/Kuniva duo would be pretty sick.

D-12 don't got no "Devil's Night" in them anymore, but i wasn't "SOOO" disappointed with "D-12 World", it was solid. 8)
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: sofdark on August 13, 2009, 10:28:47 PM
shit, it's about time right?
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: Jaydc555 on August 13, 2009, 10:33:01 PM
Yeah when i heard cashis on re up i thought he was wack then i copped the county hound and it ws good i liked every song.Bobby sounded a lot like bubba sparxxx i wasnt a huge fan of his anyway.Obies second album was lyrically better then the first but the first had wick production.The second had too much eminem production.He can make a dope beat but he couldnt hold down a whole album his production has no real variety to it.Loyal to the game was the proof.D-12 is better then most people make them out to be but proof was easily the best member.
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: Lunatic on August 13, 2009, 10:34:30 PM
Shocker
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 13, 2009, 10:38:42 PM
Yeah when i heard cashis on re up i thought he was wack then i copped the county hound and it ws good i liked every song.Bobby sounded a lot like bubba sparxxx i wasnt a huge fan of his anyway.Obies second album was lyrically better then the first but the first had wick production.The second had too much eminem production.He can make a dope beat but he couldnt hold down a whole album his production has no real variety to it.Loyal to the game was the proof.D-12 is better then most people make them out to be but proof was easily the best member.

agreed, Obie was more lyrical on "2nd Round", but it missed those Dre beats lol.

& Proof was hands down, no question the best member, not counting Eminem.
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: JohnnyL on August 13, 2009, 11:20:04 PM
Yeah when i heard cashis on re up i thought he was wack then i copped the county hound and it ws good i liked every song.Bobby sounded a lot like bubba sparxxx i wasnt a huge fan of his anyway.Obies second album was lyrically better then the first but the first had wick production.The second had too much eminem production.He can make a dope beat but he couldnt hold down a whole album his production has no real variety to it.Loyal to the game was the proof.D-12 is better then most people make them out to be but proof was easily the best member.

 I agree with you that Cashis sounded much better on "County Hound" than he sounded on "The Re Up."  On the other hand, I thought Bobby Creekwater sounded really dope on "The Re Up."
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: Jaydc555 on August 13, 2009, 11:25:14 PM
I liekd him on the smackt that remix they ll sounded dope on that song
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: dubsmith_nz on August 14, 2009, 01:31:14 AM
I agree with basically all of Chams views in this thread. Good shit lol...

I still never got why they didn't sign Proof to Shady as a solo
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: Jaydc555 on August 14, 2009, 01:48:26 AM
I agree with basically all of Chams views in this thread. Good shit lol...

I still never got why they didn't sign Proof to Shady as a solo
Proof wanted to establish himself as his own person and start up his own label iron fist.He wanted to bring detroit to the forefront.He really was the mayor of detroit.
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: A1 on August 14, 2009, 02:43:03 AM
Agree with pretty much all jaydc and cham have said in this thread. Shady aftermath had so much talent at one point but as jay said they just dropped the ball. After obie they should have realeased stats album as at the time they had that buzz, it would have definatly gone platinum.

Ive only heard a few thing from cashis would like to hear the county hound ep if anyone has some of the tracks. I saw avideo for a song of his i cant remember what it was called. Hes rapping about a drug kingpin he looked up to who fucked him over..hes like "i hate you" etc lol, but he was raw as fuck!! 
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: Jaydc555 on August 14, 2009, 03:21:34 AM
Agree with pretty much all jaydc and cham have said in this thread. Shady aftermath had so much talent at one point but as jay said they just dropped the ball. After obie they should have realeased stats album as at the time they had that buzz, it would have definatly gone platinum.

Ive only heard a few thing from cashis would like to hear the county hound ep if anyone has some of the tracks. I saw avideo for a song of his i cant remember what it was called. Hes rapping about a drug kingpin he looked up to who fucked him over..hes like "i hate you" etc lol, but he was raw as fuck!! 
Finding albums is extremely easy just go to google and type in the album name then follow it with megaupload or rapidshare and you will find it.Also check out the street album cashis dropped with young dre the truth called homeland security its dope.I thought the crack a bottle remix with bobby creekwater and cashis was dope as fuck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT7LQFsRYq8
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: RapAddict on August 14, 2009, 03:24:51 AM
Agree with pretty much all jaydc and cham have said in this thread. Shady aftermath had so much talent at one point but as jay said they just dropped the ball. After obie they should have realeased stats album as at the time they had that buzz, it would have definatly gone platinum.

Ive only heard a few thing from cashis would like to hear the county hound ep if anyone has some of the tracks. I saw avideo for a song of his i cant remember what it was called. Hes rapping about a drug kingpin he looked up to who fucked him over..hes like "i hate you" etc lol, but he was raw as fuck!! 
Finding albums is extremely easy just go to google and type in the album name then follow it with megaupload or rapidshare and you will find it.Also check out the street album cashis dropped with young dre the truth called homeland security its dope.I thought the crack a bottle remix with bobby creekwater and cashis was dope as fuck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT7LQFsRYq8
Homeland Security was dope but it was with Young De.
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: A1 on August 14, 2009, 04:10:15 AM
Agree with pretty much all jaydc and cham have said in this thread. Shady aftermath had so much talent at one point but as jay said they just dropped the ball. After obie they should have realeased stats album as at the time they had that buzz, it would have definatly gone platinum.

Ive only heard a few thing from cashis would like to hear the county hound ep if anyone has some of the tracks. I saw avideo for a song of his i cant remember what it was called. Hes rapping about a drug kingpin he looked up to who fucked him over..hes like "i hate you" etc lol, but he was raw as fuck!! 
Finding albums is extremely easy just go to google and type in the album name then follow it with megaupload or rapidshare and you will find it.Also check out the street album cashis dropped with young dre the truth called homeland security its dope.I thought the crack a bottle remix with bobby creekwater and cashis was dope as fuck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT7LQFsRYq8

Thanks ill take a look.

Yeah tracks nice, would be great to have a full length album from him.
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: dubsmith_nz on August 18, 2009, 03:13:01 PM
I agree with basically all of Chams views in this thread. Good shit lol...

I still never got why they didn't sign Proof to Shady as a solo
Proof wanted to establish himself as his own person and start up his own label iron fist.He wanted to bring detroit to the forefront.He really was the mayor of detroit.

True. His album was dope I reckon, 50 re using his "Ghetto Quaroan" hook on "Forgive Me" was sick. That "Kurt Cobain" track was my shit...

On another note "Promatic" was horrible, that Dogmatic cat just brought that album all the way down
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: Jaydc555 on August 18, 2009, 06:52:43 PM
I agree with basically all of Chams views in this thread. Good shit lol...

I still never got why they didn't sign Proof to Shady as a solo
Proof wanted to establish himself as his own person and start up his own label iron fist.He wanted to bring detroit to the forefront.He really was the mayor of detroit.

True. His album was dope I reckon, 50 re using his "Ghetto Quaroan" hook on "Forgive Me" was sick. That "Kurt Cobain" track was my shit...

On another note "Promatic" was horrible, that Dogmatic cat just brought that album all the way down
Did you check out the iron fist hand 2 hand official mixtape?I bought that the day it dropped,had some great tracks on it from an array of detroit artists.
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: dubsmith_nz on August 18, 2009, 08:31:01 PM
I agree with basically all of Chams views in this thread. Good shit lol...

I still never got why they didn't sign Proof to Shady as a solo
Proof wanted to establish himself as his own person and start up his own label iron fist.He wanted to bring detroit to the forefront.He really was the mayor of detroit.

True. His album was dope I reckon, 50 re using his "Ghetto Quaroan" hook on "Forgive Me" was sick. That "Kurt Cobain" track was my shit...

On another note "Promatic" was horrible, that Dogmatic cat just brought that album all the way down
Did you check out the iron fist hand 2 hand official mixtape?I bought that the day it dropped,had some great tracks on it from an array of detroit artists.

Nah bro never even heard of it? Got a link at all?
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: Jaydc555 on August 18, 2009, 08:45:05 PM
I agree with basically all of Chams views in this thread. Good shit lol...

I still never got why they didn't sign Proof to Shady as a solo
Proof wanted to establish himself as his own person and start up his own label iron fist.He wanted to bring detroit to the forefront.He really was the mayor of detroit.

True. His album was dope I reckon, 50 re using his "Ghetto Quaroan" hook on "Forgive Me" was sick. That "Kurt Cobain" track was my shit...

On another note "Promatic" was horrible, that Dogmatic cat just brought that album all the way down
Did you check out the iron fist hand 2 hand official mixtape?I bought that the day it dropped,had some great tracks on it from an array of detroit artists.

Nah bro never even heard of it? Got a link at all?
Just type it into google followed by torrent or megaupload or zshare youll find it.Also check out proof grown man shit street album,its better then his album.http://www.amazon.com/Hand-Official-Mixtape-Instruction-Manual/dp/B000E5N68Y/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1250653397&sr=1-4
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: dubsmith_nz on August 18, 2009, 11:00:46 PM
^^^ Props on that bro. You ever know what happened to that album he recorded in 24 hours? I remember after his death heating it was going to get released, and maybe a dvd with it, but then never heard anything again.
Title: Re: Bobby Creekwater Leaves Shady/Aftermath (Video)
Post by: Jaydc555 on August 19, 2009, 06:05:21 PM
^^^ Props on that bro. You ever know what happened to that album he recorded in 24 hours? I remember after his death heating it was going to get released, and maybe a dvd with it, but then never heard anything again.
Ive been wondering that myself.Must be caught up in some red tape with his estate and the lable im assuming