West Coast Connection Forum
Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Matty on January 23, 2015, 05:27:17 AM
-
does anyone experience this state on the regular? if so, what kind of control do you have within it and what kind of changes, if any, have you been able to effect on the waking life via dream experience?
asking because i'm starting to experience it more lately. the last experience was the clearest yet, more 'real' than being awake in many ways, like having a huge field of awareness, everything really bright and detailed, was pretty damn cool. this a great interview with a young british chap who is one of the leading experts on the topic, very interesting and lots of valuable info. he says if you start meditating and becoming more aware generally, lucid dreams are a natural consequence. but anyone can do it and it naturally happens to children too, which is no surprise. i'm definitely gonna read his book and start using some of the techniques to get more control and hopefully effect things from within this state.
http://www.youtube.com/v/xVATrRTbLbw
-
never
ive experienced sleep paralysis in the form of spirits tho
-
sleep paralysis
what's that?
...and yes, Lucid Dreaming is a fascinating topic and props for the thread. There is a whole movie about this called "Waking Life" which is one of the greatest movies ever made, the movie is half cartoon imagery and half real acting and fades in and out to create a dreamlike state.
-
sleep paralysis
what's that?
...and yes, Lucid Dreaming is a fascinating topic and props for the thread. There is a whole movie about this called "Waking Life" which is one of the greatest movies ever made, the movie is half cartoon imagery and half real acting and fades in and out to create a dreamlike state.
it's when you wake up and your mind is conscious but your body cant move..something like this:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/John_Henry_Fuseli_-_The_Nightmare.JPG/420px-John_Henry_Fuseli_-_The_Nightmare.JPG)
-
sleep paralysis
what's that?
...and yes, Lucid Dreaming is a fascinating topic and props for the thread. There is a whole movie about this called "Waking Life" which is one of the greatest movies ever made, the movie is half cartoon imagery and half real acting and fades in and out to create a dreamlike state.
that movie waking life is dope as fuck btw
-
sleep paralysis
what's that?
...and yes, Lucid Dreaming is a fascinating topic and props for the thread. There is a whole movie about this called "Waking Life" which is one of the greatest movies ever made, the movie is half cartoon imagery and half real acting and fades in and out to create a dreamlike state.
that movie waking life is dope as fuck btw
Right.... great movie to watch while you are high off ganja, btw...
....and one time you even claimed you told me about the movie but Richard Linklater has been my favorite director for a long time I always see his movies
-
The term Lucid Dreaming leaves a bad taste in my mind like Remote Viewing and Mindfulness...
-
The term Lucid Dreaming leaves a bad taste in my mind like Remote Viewing and Mindfulness...
the tibetan buddhists originally called it 'dream yoga' if that's any better. nonetheless, it's a rather unique state of consciousness with seemingly endless possibilities in which to do healing work.
-
here's another video with charlie, a south african tv documentary taken at one of his dream retreats. this one is more insightful when it comes to the techniques you can use to gain lucidity in the dream state more often. one thing i'll add is intoxicating substances are a no-no, my dreams have only started to come on after longer periods of abstaining (like a week plus) from any type of substance (namely weed). from speaking to other people this is quite typical.
http://www.youtube.com/v/fZty0e_jR2g
and another extended interview, this time with robert waggoner, probably the definitive modern author on this topic.
http://www.youtube.com/v/gf0g1YZa8co
-
nonetheless, it's a rather unique state of consciousness with seemingly endless possibilities in which to do healing work.
Seemingly.
-
sleep paralysis
what's that?
...and yes, Lucid Dreaming is a fascinating topic and props for the thread. There is a whole movie about this called "Waking Life" which is one of the greatest movies ever made, the movie is half cartoon imagery and half real acting and fades in and out to create a dreamlike state.
it's when you wake up and your mind is conscious but your body cant move..something like this:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/John_Henry_Fuseli_-_The_Nightmare.JPG/420px-John_Henry_Fuseli_-_The_Nightmare.JPG)
NIK, when you experience sleep paralysis you are one step away from being able to go out of body. Not kidding either.
When you are conscious but your body is asleep, it is terrifying. Can't breath and paralyzed. Scariest shit ever.
However, if you are able to relax and get thru the fear and still stay conscious, some very weird things start happening. Your entire body will be swept with vibrations. You can hear the vibrations, and it sounds as if a hummingbird is flying right next to your ear and you can hear its wings flapping. If you are able to stay conscious thru this, you will feel yourself raise out of your body.
It'll be the trippiest thing you've ever experienced. Most people as soon as the start to rise up completely freak out and they immediately slam back into their body and "wake up". This is why if you want to truly perfect this, it has to be practiced many times.
I was very into achieving this about 4 yrs ago.
-
sleep paralysis
what's that?
...and yes, Lucid Dreaming is a fascinating topic and props for the thread. There is a whole movie about this called "Waking Life" which is one of the greatest movies ever made, the movie is half cartoon imagery and half real acting and fades in and out to create a dreamlike state.
it's when you wake up and your mind is conscious but your body cant move..something like this:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/John_Henry_Fuseli_-_The_Nightmare.JPG/420px-John_Henry_Fuseli_-_The_Nightmare.JPG)
NIK, when you experience sleep paralysis you are one step away from being able to go out of body. Not kidding either.
When you are conscious but your body is asleep, it is terrifying. Can't breath and paralyzed. Scariest shit ever.
However, if you are able to relax and get thru the fear and still stay conscious, some very weird things start happening. Your entire body will be swept with vibrations. You can hear the vibrations, and it sounds as if a hummingbird is flying right next to your ear and you can hear its wings flapping. If you are able to stay conscious thru this, you will feel yourself raise out of your body.
It'll be the trippiest thing you've ever experienced. Most people as soon as the start to rise up completely freak out and they immediately slam back into their body and "wake up". This is why if you want to truly perfect this, it has to be practiced many times.
I was very into achieving this about 4 yrs ago.
it's happened to me before, but only after stayin the night at someones house a week after they passed away
-
The term Lucid Dreaming leaves a bad taste in my mind like Remote Viewing and Mindfulness...
It may seem hokey, but military and governments have done quite a bit in the remote viewing field. Research Ingo Swann.
Not saying its legit, but they seem to think it has value.
-
y'all should really check out those videos posted above, some great insights into this topic and you quickly get an idea of the potential of it.
-
y'all should really check out those videos posted above, some great insights into this topic and you quickly get an idea of the potential of it.
I'll check them out, though I need no reaffirmation :)
We're a soul with a body, not the other way around.
-
it's happened to me before, but only after stayin the night at someones house a week after they passed away
Interesting that it happens at the last night of sitting Shiva.
Maybe you are helping with the transition somehow.
-
y'all should really check out those videos posted above, some great insights into this topic and you quickly get an idea of the potential of it.
I'll check them out, though I need no reaffirmation :)
We're a soul with a body, not the other way around.
indeed, but they're specifically talking about lucid dreaming - historical context, potential applications, examples and techniques you can use to enter that state more frequently. far removed from making arguments for-against the existence of soul and fascinating stuff.
-
it's happened to me before, but only after stayin the night at someones house a week after they passed away
Interesting that it happens at the last night of sitting Shiva.
Maybe you are helping with the transition somehow.
7-10 days is meant to be when people move on after death so makes sense that activity would be heightened at that time. i had a close friend pass in the last few months and like clockwork his spirit pops toward the end this time, at about 9 days. i'm doing something he taught me and all of a sudden i'm overwhelmed by a strong sense of a presence, intense emotions and tears. i imagine there's all types of stuff going on if you're at the persons house, spooky :o 8)
-
it's happened to me before, but only after stayin the night at someones house a week after they passed away
Interesting that it happens at the last night of sitting Shiva.
Maybe you are helping with the transition somehow.
7-10 days is meant to be when people move on after death so makes sense that activity would be heightened at that time. i had a close friend pass in the last few months and like clockwork his spirit pops toward the end this time, at about 9 days. i'm doing something he taught me and all of a sudden i'm overwhelmed by a strong sense of a presence, intense emotions and tears. i imagine there's all types of stuff going on if you're at the persons house, spooky :o 8)
it's undeniable once u feel it
-
Had sleep paralysis once, and it was the worst experience of my life.
There's a very fine line between Sleep paralysis and an OBE. What has worked for me is when entering the sleep paralysis state, I know it's about to occur as soon as I get the full on body tingling feeling about 10 - 30 seconds beforehand. The trick, at least for me is to think positively as if I were an all powerful, untouchable being, with 'mind-power' like telekinesis mentality. If you panic, or worry then manifestations and feeling associated with fear with become apparent. This is why positive thinking is important.
Rewarding experience, especially if you can do it all the time. It is in a sense - doubling your life since we spend half of it asleep. At least in the lucid state, we can get answers, and explore more.
Has anyone had a lucid nightmare yet?
-
Had sleep paralysis once, and it was the worst experience of my life.
There's a very fine line between Sleep paralysis and an OBE. What has worked for me is when entering the sleep paralysis state, I know it's about to occur as soon as I get the full on body tingling feeling about 10 - 30 seconds beforehand. The trick, at least for me is to think positively as if I were an all powerful, untouchable being, with 'mind-power' like telekinesis mentality. If you panic, or worry then manifestations and feeling associated with fear with become apparent. This is why positive thinking is important.
Rewarding experience, especially if you can do it all the time. It is in a sense - doubling your life since we spend half of it asleep. At least in the lucid state, we can get answers, and explore more.
Has anyone had a lucid nightmare yet?
nope but i think the nature of lucidity is such that a nightmare wouldn't be quite what it is normally. ie you are in control so can fully meet the darker aspects of yourself, as opposed to a nightmare which seems to stem from resistance/repression of that stuff. in charlie's book he describes it as our shadow self and the chance to meet that manifestation is a great opportunity to integrate/overcome things. the more repressed that energy is the more intense or uncontrolled it may be in the dream state. there does seem to be other dark stuff that can pop up due to 'external' influence, but is harder to pin down.
something i found out about my lucid experience was that it wasn't a fully fleshed lucid dream per se but more of what they call (at least in tibetan buddhism) as a clear light experience - ie a taste of full awakening. it was very short but it became more and more obvious things haven't been the same since then. something happened or clicked and everything is now very different to before. it's most noticeable with aspects my visual perception, interesting stuff 8)
-
Sleep paralysis is indeed quite a scary experience. I tend to experience it if I wake in the night and lie extremely still on my back trying to get back to sleep. That's when you get that horrible sinking feeling as if you're falling or something is sitting on top of you and you get a flash of some dark presence in the room. It freaks me out but I actually quite enjoy the experience when I realise what has just happened.
I'd like to explore this topic further, especially the whole lucid dreaming thing. I think I may have experienced this before but possibly got it confused with sleep paralysis.
-
Sleep paralysis is indeed quite a scary experience. I tend to experience it if I wake in the night and lie extremely still on my back trying to get back to sleep. That's when you get that horrible sinking feeling as if you're falling or something is sitting on top of you and you get a flash of some dark presence in the room. It freaks me out but I actually quite enjoy the experience when I realise what has just happened.
I'd like to explore this topic further, especially the whole lucid dreaming thing. I think I may have experienced this before but possibly got it confused with sleep paralysis.
check out the videos posted in this topic and you'll know a lot more about it than most people, including some techniques to increase the chances of it happening...
-
i'm interested in this topic for quiet a while now...i missed this thread somehow. i'll check out the videos when i find some time
-
sleep paralysis
what's that?
...and yes, Lucid Dreaming is a fascinating topic and props for the thread. There is a whole movie about this called "Waking Life" which is one of the greatest movies ever made, the movie is half cartoon imagery and half real acting and fades in and out to create a dreamlike state.
thank you for the inspiration...watched the movie yesterday and it was very fascinating
-
This is so weird reading some of the comments here. I've experienced sleep paralysis many times over the years. I rember a couple of times drifting OBE at that point. The only way I can explain it is like watching a feather drifting down to the floor, but it was me going OB then drifting sideways away from myself and gliding in that feather like way out of the room and further and further away from myself (if that makes sense). Weird because I thought it was all part of the dream til now... It happened repeatedly around the same time
-
This is so weird reading some of the comments here. I've experienced sleep paralysis many times over the years. I rember a couple of times drifting OBE at that point. The only way I can explain it is like watching a feather drifting down to the floor, but it was me going OB then drifting sideways away from myself and gliding in that feather like way out of the room and further and further away from myself (if that makes sense). Weird because I thought it was all part of the dream til now... It happened repeatedly around the same time
never experienced sleep paralysis but it sounds creepy...what you mean with "OBE"?
-
What the guys are describing. An Out of Body Experience, as an extension of this Sleep Paralysis state
And yeah it's terrifying. But you have no idea if it's reality or a dream...
-
i had an OBE where i was totally aware of floating above my body and tried to call out 'i'm floating' :laugh: it's your spirit body/energy body whatever you want to call it that's moving around, should be a sign that the physical body isn't really what we are. apparently it's moving around, floating etc every night, just that we're plugged into the dream state and unaware of its location in this reality. not sure of the mechanics but something happens where the mind returns 'here' while we're asleep and we're still aware of it.
-
We are a soul with a body, not a body with a soul.
Our soul inhabits this meat sack in this incarnation. Be good and you get real freedom.
-
We are a soul with a body, not a body with a soul.
Our soul inhabits this meat sack in this incarnation. Be good and you get real freedom.
well said
-
I've used to wake up all the time n my mind was awake but my body was paralyzed n I couldn't breathe n then just as I'm panicking thinking I'm gon die I wake up properly. Hasn't happens in years... Only out of body experience I've had was when we crashed a stolen car. I put my arm up to cover my face at the last second before we hit the power pole but I still hit the windscreen n kissed the dashboard. I remember vividly seeing my friend getting thrown around in the back seat and then standing outside the passenger side next to her and the driver looking in at myself slumped over in the passenger seat... Then I watch my head start to rise n then I'm back in my body.... Straight away covered my hand with my jacket sleeve opened the door n we all three hightails it back to the mish.... Crazy.... But it makes me believe in a spirit/soul n a afterlife... Hense, trying to get right with god in this life so I don't end up in the fiery depths of hell....