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Title: snoop dogg = GOAT
Post by: Hole Is Ice on May 14, 2004, 04:41:50 PM
who agrees with me that snoop is the best rapper ever?
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Post by: Hazzard on May 14, 2004, 04:51:26 PM
lol ;)
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Post by: Jome on May 14, 2004, 04:52:24 PM
LOL, funny new dude..  :D
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Post by: PLANT on May 14, 2004, 05:03:48 PM
Snoop has had one of the best rap careers ever, but definatly not the best rapper ever.  Im still giving that title to Biggie Smalls.
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Post by: vegaz on May 14, 2004, 05:11:08 PM
he was just a groupie.......he was just a groupie.......

LOL just playin' honestly snoop is my favorite rapper but I wouldn't make a statement like that and not expect to catch some flack about it. As much as I hate to say it Jay Z is the most prolific and accomplished rapper. ( and Im not a jay z fan).
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Post by: Lincoln on May 14, 2004, 05:41:14 PM
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Suga Foot on May 14, 2004, 05:41:49 PM
lol
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Post by: Hole Is Ice on May 14, 2004, 06:09:43 PM
yall sum dumb muthafuckas

listen 2 doggystyle and tell me it aint the tightest album ever

chuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccchhhhhh

fuck da haters
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Post by: Lincoln on May 14, 2004, 06:19:04 PM
yall sum dumb muthafuckas

listen 2 doggystyle and tell me it aint the tightest album ever

chuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccchhhhhh

fuck da haters

Far from the greatest album ever. Listen to Paid In Full, Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back, Death Certificate, Black Star, Illmatic, 36 Chambers, Straight Outta Compton, Capital Punishment, Internal Affairs, Resurrection, etc.... These are all hip-hop CD's better than Doggystyle which I listed of the top of my head.

And kill the chuuch shit.
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Post by: Hole Is Ice on May 14, 2004, 07:15:18 PM
doggystyle is better than all da albums u jus listed u dumbfuck


stop hating

chuuuuuuuuucccchhhhhhh
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Post by: from the yay on May 14, 2004, 07:27:38 PM
lmfao ,doggystyle is better than none of those albums,don't trip though ,snoop is still one of the greatest of all time.
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Post by: from the yay on May 14, 2004, 07:41:09 PM
actually though,doggystyle is better than those big pun albums and blackstar,but then again,if you are only15 ,16 years old,you probably wouldn't think that pe,nwa,or anything from before the 90's is worth considering classic.I think that snoop is better as a personality,because lyricwise I wouldn't rate him too high.
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Post by: Darksider on May 14, 2004, 08:02:08 PM
he is one of the bests
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Post by: W-Side on May 14, 2004, 08:26:32 PM
yall sum dumb muthafuckas

listen 2 doggystyle and tell me it aint the tightest album ever

chuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccchhhhhh

fuck da haters

Far from the greatest album ever. Listen to Paid In Full, Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back, Death Certificate, Black Star, Illmatic, 36 Chambers, Straight Outta Compton, Capital Punishment, Internal Affairs, Resurrection, etc.... These are all hip-hop CD's better than Doggystyle which I listed of the top of my head.

And kill the chuuch shit.

as funny as the thread title is.. these albums are not better you just like them more, Doggystyle is one of the greatest ever and if u don't like the g-funk that's your thang..

Blacks Star is far from a perfect album.. Internal Affairs..? please.. I know Pharoahe is better than Snoop but this album is not even close to Doggystyle
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Post by: Trauma-san on May 14, 2004, 08:32:10 PM
When I consider GOAT, I have to consider more than just talent and writing ability, you have to consider the impact they made, their charisma, style, lyrical ability, etc. and then weigh all that in together.  

I'd say Doggystyle is the greatest Rap album ever, but you can make arguments for a few others.

I wouldn't put Snoop as the best ever, even though he's my favorite.  I'd say he's top 5, though.  My G.O.A.T. would be Biggie.  Even though he only did 2 albums, he had it all, the entire package.  Unbelievable flow, great lyrical ability, incredible charisma, style, he was the real deal.  

Guys like Pharoahe Monch are much more talented that Snoop, etc. but they aren't anywhere near his steez on a charisma, style, or just influential or star-power level.  G.O.A.T. has to take in all these aspects, not just who could rap the best.  

If you were trying to find the greatest lyricist ever, you'd never find him, becuase it would be somebody you'd never heard of writing shit in his mom's basement.  If the guy was TRULY the G.O.A.T., though, eventually he would rise to the top... Pharoahe Monche hasn't made it to the top yet, so I gotta question his GOAT status.  
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Post by: Hole Is Ice on May 14, 2004, 08:55:24 PM
some of yall spittin real talk

internal affairs was a whack album. i swear some of yall just say its good just cuz u dont want no hiphop heads 2 clown u. but on the real. u know u dont really like that shit. i hate when these nerds say an album is good just cuz the guy is praised as a good lyricisct. fuck u fake ass bitches.

doggystyle is way better than internal affairs and yall know it
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Post by: from the yay on May 14, 2004, 10:10:19 PM
internal affairs has about 4 good songs
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Post by: white Boy on May 15, 2004, 12:47:10 AM
wow he Goat from just doggystyle? ... he full off, and sold out, and id listen to illmatic or 36 chambers (just 2 off the top of my head) over doggystyle....
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Post by: Don Breezio on May 15, 2004, 01:17:08 AM
some of yall spittin real talk

internal affairs was a whack album. i swear some of yall just say its good just cuz u dont want no hiphop heads 2 clown u. but on the real. u know u dont really like that shit. i hate when these nerds say an album is good just cuz the guy is praised as a good lyricisct. fuck u fake ass bitches.

doggystyle is way better than internal affairs and yall know it

lmao @ the snoop dick rider calling someone fake...hey bud...you're hero has sold his soul to the mainstream. yeah he was good back in the day...but this isnt 1993 anymore. the dude has done nothing since tha doggfather but sell himself to the highest bidder. he doesnt give a shit about what his fans want...do you think if he gave a shit he would've made some wack ass record like 'beautiful'? and stop with that chuch shit...its fuckin stupid...even the lil jon fans don't end ever post with OKKKAAYYY!
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Post by: West C. Connected on May 15, 2004, 03:32:51 AM
If Snoop's the GOAT then I'm the SHEEP.
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Post by: Nutty on May 15, 2004, 03:46:03 AM
I wouldn't consider Snoop GOAT, but his DoggyStyle album is a definate classic and has influenced many, no one can argue w/ that! Funny some1 mentioning that he fell off, and that they'd rather listen to Illmatic & 36 Chambers, both NaS & the Wu fell the fuck off........NaS redeemed himself though w/ StillMatic. Pity about the Wu, if only they can bring back some of that ol' magic. All Snoop needs to do is get back w/ 'Dre & stop fucking w/ the Neptunes & steer clear of Lil Jon.

Ps. I thought 'Beautiful' was beautiful. Come on man. Yeh-eh-eh-eah.
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Post by: allfromtheIE on May 15, 2004, 07:04:44 AM
First off, PAC is the Greatest of all time.  Secondly, 1 album does not make you the greatest of all time.  Lastly, if your the greatest of all time, you do not put out wack albums and wack singles
IE
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Post by: KING VerbalAssaulta on May 15, 2004, 04:11:07 PM
who agrees with me that snoop is the best rapper ever?
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Post by: TheDRU on May 15, 2004, 05:41:22 PM
He could be one of the best ever but not when it comes down to lyricalism, then I would say Canibus or Chino XL
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Post by: Jome on May 15, 2004, 06:08:27 PM
Chill people, you know the level of seriousness when Snoop is hailed as the greatest of all time, and "Internal Affairs" is labeled as whack in the same thread..

On the same note, I would like to launch Jae Kwon as the grimiest rapper of all time, P.Diddy as 2nd best rapper of all time after Snoop, and also, 2Pac as "biggest Ja Rule biter ever".

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Post by: Don Breezio on May 16, 2004, 02:28:09 AM
lmfao @ that last one jome...but you forgot one thing...

britney spears has officially knocked milli vanilli out of the top spot for greatest Soul singer of all time.
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Post by: LyRiCaL_G on May 16, 2004, 06:41:44 AM
lol, funny thread, all the snoop haters all havin lunch in one thread, but yeah its obvious snoop aint the best rapper of all time, but noone can deny his had one of the most succesful careers in rap, ten years n still sellin platinum, u gotta rate it.......plus most rappers will never make a dogystyle, nuff said........n dont even bother comin with dumb shit callin me a groupy, check back my old snoop posts n you'll realise........but im jus sayin his had a great career.......and dropped one of the sickest cds gwarnin still today........i can still bump that muthafucka from top 2 bottom.........but best of all time???...........c'mon dawg
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Post by: Z the laidback Virus on May 16, 2004, 09:50:56 AM
Snoop certainly ain't the GOAT but some people do act like he's never done anything right and that of course,isn't true.

With most of you people there seems to be just two ways,either you nearly worship Snoop or you'd hate him to death. Few people seem to be objective.
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Post by: Hole Is Ice on May 16, 2004, 11:43:50 AM
man sum of yall jus dumb ignorant fucks. u say snoop sold out? wtf is selling out? the rap game evolved into what it is today so u do whats hot today to make money. u want him to make shit like the other west coast acts like yukmouth n shit and then whine all day hating?seriously wtf is wrong with making money. his shit still sounds good not as good but its still good. so he worked with neptunes. didnt ras kass? so ras kass sold out too? fuck yall man. yall jus wanna hate on snoop cuz u feel as sum white boy rap fans its the cool thing to do. yall and ur nerd rap n shit and u jus hail lyrcists n shit jus cuz its what hiphop heads do and u tryin 2 fit that category. yall some fake ass bustas.
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Post by: Smooth on May 16, 2004, 11:52:21 AM
Well I can see how some of you could think Snoop isn't the best... but he's my favourite rapper, hell he's been my fav since like 94... and Doggystyle imo is the best rap cd to EVER drop... like my necca Lyrical_G said... I can listen to that muthafucka top to bottom... and I don't think that will ever change...

oh yeah, Internal affairs is a good album... but for it to be even compared to Doggystyle is a bit of a joke...

Paaaace
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Post by: Hole Is Ice on May 16, 2004, 11:55:33 AM
^ real talk
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Post by: Leggy Hendrix on May 16, 2004, 12:00:16 PM
man sum of yall jus dumb ignorant fucks. u say snoop sold out? wtf is selling out? the rap game evolved into what it is today so u do whats hot today to make money. u want him to make shit like the other west coast acts like yukmouth n shit and then whine all day hating?seriously wtf is wrong with making money. his shit still sounds good not as good but its still good. so he worked with neptunes. didnt ras kass? so ras kass sold out too? fuck yall man. yall jus wanna hate on snoop cuz u feel as sum white boy rap fans its the cool thing to do. yall and ur nerd rap n shit and u jus hail lyrcists n shit jus cuz its what hiphop heads do and u tryin 2 fit that category. yall some fake ass bustas.

umm...when did ras kass work with the neptunes?
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Post by: Hole Is Ice on May 16, 2004, 12:10:29 PM
he jus did like a freestyle on their beat n shit but it shows u that he think they hot and would work wit em
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Post by: Hole Is Ice on May 16, 2004, 12:12:42 PM
but still ud be sayin that jadakiss and nas sold out
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Post by: West C. Connected on May 16, 2004, 12:19:47 PM
Ras Kass has a song called "Hands Up" produced by The Neptunes.
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Post by: Funkadelic on May 16, 2004, 12:28:41 PM
Let's make it shot: no, he isn't the greatest of all time...
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Post by: Leggy Hendrix on May 16, 2004, 12:38:04 PM
Ras Kass has a song called "Hands Up" produced by The Neptunes.

do you have a source that proves that cos im pretty sure they didnt do it
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Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on May 16, 2004, 12:48:23 PM
Ras Kass has a song called "Hands Up" produced by The Neptunes.

do you have a source that proves that cos im pretty sure they didnt do it

No I don't think they did do it, unfortunately that track sounded like a poor imitation of a Neptunes beat, prehaps the only thing worse than an actual Neptunes beat.
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Post by: Leggy Hendrix on May 16, 2004, 12:54:32 PM
Ras Kass has a song called "Hands Up" produced by The Neptunes.

do you have a source that proves that cos im pretty sure they didnt do it

No I don't think they did do it, unfortunately that track sounded like a poor imitation of a Neptunes beat, prehaps the only thing worse than an actual Neptunes beat.

yeah, to me it was a sloppy attempt at sounding like a 'tunes production...
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Post by: C-clamp on May 16, 2004, 01:01:34 PM
Snoop's my favourite rapper, but I can't say he's the GOAT with a straight face.  That being said, in my opinion he's still one of the best to do it.  What he lacks in lyrics he makes up for with flow and delivery, which a lot of these lyrical rappers are seriously lacking.  I don't care what your saying, if you don't sound good saying it, I'm gonna stop listening.  I think that one of snoop's strengths, no matter what he's saying he almost always sounds good doin it. Basically, he's top 10 for me at least
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Post by: LionHeart on May 16, 2004, 05:01:28 PM
Snoop has a hella tight flow as he has shown many times in the past. Hell even some of his latest collabarations are tight but to say he is the greatest ever is a stretch.

Credit where it is due, he is brilliant b ut far from the best!!
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Post by: mrtonguetwista on May 16, 2004, 06:31:01 PM
yall sum dumb muthafuckas

listen 2 doggystyle and tell me it aint the tightest album ever

chuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccchhhhhh

fuck da haters
How old are you?  Did you just win Doggystyle off of eBay?
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Post by: LionHeart on May 16, 2004, 09:45:46 PM
yall sum dumb muthafuckas

listen 2 doggystyle and tell me it aint the tightest album ever

chuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccchhhhhh

fuck da haters
How old are you?  Did you just win Doggystyle off of eBay?

Must think its a new release CD....

Aint a good idea jumping in and insulting us all..... Really its not.... ::)
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Post by: Hole Is Ice on May 16, 2004, 10:16:29 PM
lmao at all u lil white nerds who try to fit in with hiphop heads by hailing lyricists n shit man u lil faggots probably enjoy listening 2 commercial shit but denounce it 2 fit in

fuck u fake ass bustas
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Post by: Don Breezio on May 17, 2004, 12:46:25 AM
speaking of not fitting in...^^^ looks like dude got banned lol

anyways what i meant by saying that snoop sold out by doing "beautiful" was not that he sold out by working with the neptunes...actually i think they have good chemistry and i enjoyed beautiful as well as the track he did for the clones cd...but he sold out by making a poppy ass track like beautiful...c'mon...thats not snoop.
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Post by: Tha Crip on May 17, 2004, 02:01:45 AM
lmfao at dude getting shit on for saying CHUUUUUUCH......hahahahahaha i use to do dat shit all da time.....never heard a peep from ne one.....although i think my karma paid for it.......hahahaha
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Post by: Don Seer on May 17, 2004, 02:53:37 AM
speaking of not fitting in...^^^ looks like dude got banned lol

it was jamal ;)
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Post by: Bomb-A® on May 18, 2004, 01:32:25 AM
no matter who u call the greatest, some1 is always gonna disagree. but calling snoop the g.o.a.t.....i think most people disagree. he's right up there tho. he failed to keep his career consistent. u never know what his albums will sound like. unlike gangstarr....now theyre great. every album bangs and consistent too.



peace
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Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 18, 2004, 02:04:02 AM
speaking of not fitting in...^^^ looks like dude got banned lol

it was jamal ;)


Seer, I don't really think that was Jamal...He told me he was posting on some other name. :-X
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Post by: M Dogg™ on May 19, 2004, 08:54:30 PM
Where is Snoop rank, well not at number one, but he is in the top 10. Snoop is like many tight rappers with great careers, you know someone out there is better, but it doesn't matter because what he brings is still great. Every time there's a GOAT conversation, Snoop has a shot of being brought up. It's rappers like a Snoop, Method Man, Redman, Ice Cube, Jay-Z, Big Daddy Kane, Nas, Eminem, Scarface, Run DMC, LL Cool J, that keep rap going. Yeah, rappers like Biggie, 2Pac, KRS-One, Rakim, they shine like no one else, and all of them are the main rappers when talking about GOAT, but just because they outshine everyone else, doesn't mean the rest are wack. Now talking about rappers that never deserve their shots, like a Nelly, Vanilla Ice, then you can talk, but the rest are the reason hip-hop is sucessful. Forget who's GOAT, you don't have the great westcoast sales in the early 90's without Snoop. Snoop help lanch the careers of Warren G, Nate Dogg, Daz, Kurupt, Tha Eastsidaz, and others. Say what you will, no one can ever denie Snoop his place in the top 10, no one can ever denie Snoop has had one of the greatest careers, had a great influence, and still is pulling strings like a don.
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Post by: LyRiCaL_G on May 20, 2004, 12:14:31 PM
^^^homie everyone knows snoops a don, he might be a skinny nigga but homie still a bad bwoy when it comes to music........he aint goat but like u said, he'd be in my top 10 and many others and has had one of the best rap careers hittin mo than ten years, u gotta be rated..........