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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Elano on December 13, 2008, 06:24:37 AM
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Last night at New York City’s 92 Street Y, Hot 97 radio personality Peter Rosenberg sat down with legendary producer DJ Premier for what was said to be the first installment of his Noisemakers series of one-on-one interviews with some of the biggest names in hip-hop. During the discussion Primo spoke about many of his infamous collaborations, and those that were never able to materialize.
When asked what rappers he’d like to have worked with that haven’t yet manifested, Premier said “Definitely Busta,” before adding, “50 too. I gave 50 a bangin’ beat, [but] he turned it down. It was dope, though.”
The rap vet didn’t dwell on that as he explained what it was like to work with The Nototious B.I.G. “Biggie called me in a frantic panic on the phone and was like, Yo, I got one more song I need for my album and I’m done; I gotta get a song from you.” That conversation soon turned into “Unbelievable,” off of Big’s debut, Ready to Die, which Primo “thought was a little too nice for the way his voice sounded,” but Big Poppa “just walked in the booth and laid it—no paper, no nothin’.”
When the possibility of a full-length album was brought up, he acknowledged that the wheels are in motion, but it may be difficult to get everyone he wants on the release. “I talked about starting it a couple weeks ago, because a lot of artists [want to help]—like Kanye, [after] I scratched on his album, he was like, ‘Yo, I’ll give you one for free whenever you need me.’ And I know that the bigger people get, it’s harder to get ‘em. Even Jay-Z is hard to get now, and we were around each other for years, but it’s hard to even get at him. I’m just trying to swap with everybody.”
The perfectionist that he is, Primo knows the situation needs to be right. “It’s gotta be like my Chronic,” he continued. “Just like the way Dre came out with Chronic and just shitted on everybody, mine’s gotta be the same way.”
Whether or not a DJ Premier album is in the immediate future, more music is certainly on the way. “I’m back to almost a beat every two days,” he assured. “The money’s always secondary. That’s the reason why I think I still get work. Even in desperate times, I still gotta make the record bang.”
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lol, 50 is retarded.
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Love this man's dedication, sounds like he always and still got the hunger
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lol, 50 is retarded.
No doubt.
If that Premier album does get confirmed, that will probably go ahead of Detox as most wanted album. Probably take numerous amount of years to make aswell, as he'll want perfection too.
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maybe it's a good thing 50 turned the beat down, somebody else could have possibly ripped it better
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shame on 50...
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lol, 50 is retarded.
No doubt.
If that Premier album does get confirmed, that will probably go ahead of Detox as most wanted album. Probably take numerous amount of years to make aswell, as he'll want perfection too.
Nah, i dont think it would come close to as anticipated as Detox, Premier aint as known as much as Dre!!!
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maybe it's a good thing 50 turned the beat down, somebody else could have possibly ripped it better
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Damn 50 is a fool, a Premo album with evry beat prod by him would be :o
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now that i think of it...
it was probably a great beat, but 50 heard it and said to himself "its just not my style".
i mean, thats my take on it; but why else are you turning down a Premo beat?
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who knows... not everything preme does is gold.
50 used to rap over those types of beats. maybe he was afraid it wouldnt be commercial enough. who knows, he might reach back out some day
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I always thought these 2 were Premo beats.
http://limelinx.com/files/bc0fb6cd15160edf3bc981474ccb7cdd
http://limelinx.com/files/0715140d263d2f9286dcc9bb83b315f0
Knowing 50 he was probably overthinking it and saying to himself something like "the general public won't accept this song", "I can't strategically position it on my album"... Altough he did say that his favourite track on Luda's new album is MVP.
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maybe it's a good thing 50 turned the beat down, somebody else could have possibly ripped it better
no maybe about it, this is a good thing.
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lol, 50 is retarded.
No doubt.
If that Premier album does get confirmed, that will probably go ahead of Detox as most wanted album. Probably take numerous amount of years to make aswell, as he'll want perfection too.
Nah, i dont think it would come close to as anticipated as Detox, Premier aint as known as much as Dre!!!
Thats just me personally. ;)
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I always thought these 2 were Premo beats.
http://limelinx.com/files/bc0fb6cd15160edf3bc981474ccb7cdd
http://limelinx.com/files/0715140d263d2f9286dcc9bb83b315f0
Knowing 50 he was probably overthinking it and saying to himself something like "the general public won't accept this song", "I can't strategically position it on my album"... Altough he did say that his favourite track on Luda's new album is MVP.
whats that first song off of? its dope!
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^ "Guess Who's Back"
lol @ Kanye's groupie ass trying to be down, like Primo needs an idea from that tool
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Fuck you is my favorite 50 track of all time
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lol, 50 is retarded.
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lol, 50 is retarded.
nuff said.
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Sucks for 50. Id really like to see that Premier album too. That sounds like a crazy project.
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damn....that sucks...im a 50 fan and i always wanted these 2 hook up for a song.
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i hope dj premier didnt get carried away wen he said that, i mean wat happns if we hear the beat and it wasnt wat we expected.
& if it was gd then 50 shame on you
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Sucks for 50. Id really like to see that Premier album too. That sounds like a crazy project.
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i want a premo album!!!!
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lol, 50 is retarded.
i dont understand some peoples responses
what if the track was no good?
what if 50 didnt like it or it didnt fit in with his album or its direction?
is he just expected to take whatever because it was offered?
im sure hes rejected some dr dre beats in the past aswell
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50 needs to get at premo if premo is interested in workin with him. 50 should be honoured plus see the musical potential. if premo is gonna offer a beat he'd obviously get in the studio and get down with him too. i can't see how anyone claming to do raw street hip-hop music wouldn't want to work with him.
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Sir hanks did you even read this thread at all?
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50 turned down premo beat according to premo in interview (saw the vid actually). 50 ego obviously too big for dusty sounding beats. something along those lines :laugh:
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Ha ha alright just the way you said if hed work with 50 he would obviously say yes.but he said no so yeah anyways...
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i meant premo would want to work with 50 properly. he said artists he'd like to work with include busta and 50 and that he'd submitted a beat to 50 too.
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I like 50 but theirs a lot more artists I'd like premo to work with instead
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When the possibility of a full-length album was brought up, he acknowledged that the wheels are in motion, but it may be difficult to get everyone he wants on the release. “I talked about starting it a couple weeks ago, because a lot of artists [want to help]—like Kanye, [after] I scratched on his album, he was like, ‘Yo, I’ll give you one for free whenever you need me.’ And I know that the bigger people get, it’s harder to get ‘em. Even Jay-Z is hard to get now, and we were around each other for years, but it’s hard to even get at him. I’m just trying to swap with everybody.”
The perfectionist that he is, Primo knows the situation needs to be right. “It’s gotta be like my Chronic,” he continued. “Just like the way Dre came out with Chronic and just shitted on everybody, mine’s gotta be the same way.”
Whether or not a DJ Premier album is in the immediate future, more music is certainly on the way. “I’m back to almost a beat every two days,” he assured. “The money’s always secondary. That’s the reason why I think I still get work. Even in desperate times, I still gotta make the record bang.”
"A Man Of Few Words": that's the name of his project.
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50 needs to get at premo if premo is interested in workin with him. 50 should be honoured plus see the musical potential. if premo is gonna offer a beat he'd obviously get in the studio and get down with him too. i can't see how anyone claming to do raw street hip-hop music wouldn't want to work with him.
There's alot of people who dont wanna work wit' Preme. IMHO (mainly factual) Preme only been hangin' on to his name bcuz there isn't anybody else in his position. Most Hip Hop production is boring (no matter who produces it). Preme only makes simple shit, that basic-basic Hip Hop sound is dyin' like a plant wit' no food or water 4 a week. Hip Hop is goin' the Live Band direction- whether u do mainstream hip hop or raw hip hop. I love the classics just like the next man does, but truth be told- that sound is outdated (especially Preme's), i guess u could label it like that "throwback sound". Even Even George Clinton let Kokane take his sound and move on with it
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lol, 50 is retarded.
i dont understand some peoples responses
what if the track was no good?
what if 50 didnt like it or it didnt fit in with his album or its direction?
is he just expected to take whatever because it was offered?
im sure hes rejected some dr dre beats in the past aswell
now that i think of it...
it was probably a great beat, but 50 heard it and said to himself "its just not my style".
i mean, thats my take on it; but why else are you turning down a Premo beat?
im glad you read every post. ;)
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maybe it's a good thing 50 turned the beat down, somebody else could have possibly ripped it better
;D
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50 needs to get at premo if premo is interested in workin with him. 50 should be honoured plus see the musical potential. if premo is gonna offer a beat he'd obviously get in the studio and get down with him too. i can't see how anyone claming to do raw street hip-hop music wouldn't want to work with him.
There's alot of people who dont wanna work wit' Preme. IMHO (mainly factual) Preme only been hangin' on to his name bcuz there isn't anybody else in his position. Most Hip Hop production is boring (no matter who produces it). Preme only makes simple shit, that basic-basic Hip Hop sound is dyin' like a plant wit' no food or water 4 a week. Hip Hop is goin' the Live Band direction- whether u do mainstream hip hop or raw hip hop. I love the classics just like the next man does, but truth be told- that sound is outdated (especially Preme's), i guess u could label it like that "throwback sound". Even Even George Clinton let Kokane take his sound and move on with it
wow. preme has been hanging on because he STILL drops dope instrumentals.
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50 needs to get at premo if premo is interested in workin with him. 50 should be honoured plus see the musical potential. if premo is gonna offer a beat he'd obviously get in the studio and get down with him too. i can't see how anyone claming to do raw street hip-hop music wouldn't want to work with him.
There's alot of people who dont wanna work wit' Preme. IMHO (mainly factual) Preme only been hangin' on to his name bcuz there isn't anybody else in his position. Most Hip Hop production is boring (no matter who produces it). Preme only makes simple shit, that basic-basic Hip Hop sound is dyin' like a plant wit' no food or water 4 a week. Hip Hop is goin' the Live Band direction- whether u do mainstream hip hop or raw hip hop. I love the classics just like the next man does, but truth be told- that sound is outdated (especially Preme's), i guess u could label it like that "throwback sound". Even Even George Clinton let Kokane take his sound and move on with it
wow. preme has been hanging on because he STILL drops dope instrumentals.
Word. He's dropped some serious heat this year.
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50 sux for turning down any premier beat, end of story. yeah hes rich and knows what hes doing but whos more hip-hop? christina aguilera :laugh:
there's no way premier has fallen off either. still putting out heat on the regular.
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50 needs to get at premo if premo is interested in workin with him. 50 should be honoured plus see the musical potential. if premo is gonna offer a beat he'd obviously get in the studio and get down with him too. i can't see how anyone claming to do raw street hip-hop music wouldn't want to work with him.
There's alot of people who dont wanna work wit' Preme. IMHO (mainly factual) Preme only been hangin' on to his name bcuz there isn't anybody else in his position. Most Hip Hop production is boring (no matter who produces it). Preme only makes simple shit, that basic-basic Hip Hop sound is dyin' like a plant wit' no food or water 4 a week. Hip Hop is goin' the Live Band direction- whether u do mainstream hip hop or raw hip hop. I love the classics just like the next man does, but truth be told- that sound is outdated (especially Preme's), i guess u could label it like that "throwback sound". Even Even George Clinton let Kokane take his sound and move on with it
wow. preme has been hanging on because he STILL drops dope instrumentals.
Word. He's dropped some serious heat this year.
every year is premos year ya dig?
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50 a retard:
DJ Premier Details 50 Cent Snub
DJ Premier recently revealed to New York radio personality Peter Rosenberg that he made a track for 50 Cent that was turned down. XXLmag.com chopped it up with the beat making legend to get the inside scoop on what happened with the song and how it would have been the perfect vehicle for Fif to push the reset button on his career.
Apparently Preemo submitted the song for 50’s upcoming album Before I Self Destruct. And as he tells it, this would have been the G-Unit leader’s perfect re-introduction to hip-hop audiences as a hardcore rapper.
“I use[d] his voice from “Guess Who’s Back” – ‘You’re now rocking with 50 Cent. Are you ready? I said are you ready,’ he described to XXL. “You know how he says that, with that like cocky attitude? I used that and scratching in the beginning with like this real mellow beat and the drums are smacking. It’s like setting it up like ‘Yo I’m back on my grizzly shit. I’m about to come rough.’”
Premier, who has worked with most of New York’s most influential artists, including The Notorious B.I.G., Jay-Z and Nas, said the track wasn’t one of his greatest but it would have worked in 50’s favor. “It’s not like the illest beat I ever done but the fact that he wants to bring it back to the pure essence, I definitely know how to make sure that we’re on the right track for a street record. “
While he says that Curtis would have sounded amazing over the beat, he’s not upset that the song was turned down. “Bringing that old voice back is almost like if he hit the reset button. So I could totally hear 50 killing that song…I’m not mad though. Fif’s my dude.”
Even though you won’t be hearing the track on 50’s new album, Preemo said the beat didn’t end up on the cutting room floor. He gave it to the NYGz, who are signed to his Year Round imprint, for a song called “Ready?".
Source: xxlmag
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Even though you won’t be hearing the track on 50’s new album, Preemo said the beat didn’t end up on the cutting room floor. He gave it to the NYGz, who are signed to his Year Round imprint, for a song called “Ready?".
good news
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maybe it's a good thing 50 turned the beat down, somebody else could have possibly ripped it better
ANYBODY