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Title: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: youngmessnucca on February 27, 2006, 02:18:54 PM
who has gotten better with age and who has gotten worse?

better:
MC Eiht
Nas
Scarface
Daz
San Quinn
Busta

worse:
Kurupt
Cam'ron
Snoop
Spice 1
Bone Thugs
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: Rudki on February 27, 2006, 02:39:29 PM
how has mc eiht got better and spice 1 worse?

spice 1 is still a good rapper , just has terrible beats and his recent albums are rushed as hell.......
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: Juronimo on February 27, 2006, 02:50:06 PM
How have MC Eiht and Daz gotten better with age?
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: Paul on February 27, 2006, 02:53:13 PM
How have MC Eiht and Daz gotten better with age?

mc eiht and daz made fuckin classics in the 90's and early 2000's , not as much now, especially mc eiht

erm................ i think mack 10 has gotten better with age, an argument can be held with dj quik as well

as for people who hav gotten worse u can name nearly every rapper tht was around in the 90's tht still rap today
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: westkoastanostra on February 27, 2006, 03:05:08 PM
better:

dj quik
jayo felony
yukmouth
the game
san quinn
busta rhymes
wc

worse:

50 cent
lloyd banks
daz
kurupt
spice 1
xzibit
snoop dogg
mc eiht
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: Paul on February 27, 2006, 03:08:28 PM
^^^^ yeah def jayo felony got better, but i disagree with WC, i think shadiest one was a much better album thn ghetto heisman, and his work on bow down was better imo thn terrorist threats
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: westkoastanostra on February 27, 2006, 03:28:56 PM
^^^yea but have u checked out his mixtape he put out in 04...that shit was fire!
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: youngmessnucca on February 27, 2006, 03:30:17 PM
daz & eiht have more clever lyrics and broader subject matter to talk about. Spice 1 is just plain boring.

Edit: forgot about Quik as one of the ones who got better.

and stop hating, post your opinons dont question mine
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: gav09 on February 27, 2006, 03:32:42 PM
LL Cool J defo got worse.
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: Paul on February 27, 2006, 03:34:51 PM
^^^yea but have u checked out his mixtape he put out in 04...that shit was fire!

na i never heard about tht, what is it?
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: Mygla on February 27, 2006, 04:19:51 PM
Quik definately grew as a rapper as he got older

eiht have more clever lyrics and broader subject matter to talk about.

Eiht lost his flow, period.

and stop hating, post your opinons dont question mine

 :-*
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: IFB Flood on February 27, 2006, 05:30:53 PM
LL Cool J defo got worse.

he should just fuckin' quit
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: Juronimo on February 27, 2006, 05:56:09 PM
daz & eiht have more clever lyrics and broader subject matter to talk about. Spice 1 is just plain boring.

Edit: forgot about Quik as one of the ones who got better.

and stop hating, post your opinons dont question mine

If you didn't want it questioned, you shouldn't have posted it.
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: AFTERMATHMATIC on February 27, 2006, 05:56:53 PM
Snoop has gotten worse, even though if im not sure you could call it that...maybe hes just more mainstream and not as hungry now. Kurupt used to be good, but I think he has fallen off ever since, but I mean back then he was amazing, so I dont even know if its a fair comparision.

If we did rappers today, The Game has definitely stepped up, even from the documentary, which was released little over a year ago..
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: Lo Flya on February 27, 2006, 06:12:45 PM
How have MC Eiht and Daz gotten better with age?

mc eiht and daz made fuckin classics in the 90's and early 2000's , not as much now, especially mc eiht

erm................ i think mack 10 has gotten better with age, an argument can be held with dj quik as well

as for people who hav gotten worse u can name nearly every rapper tht was around in the 90's tht still rap today

I gotta agree with this
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: Eihtball on February 27, 2006, 06:34:22 PM
Anybody who says Snoop has gotten worse needs a serious chin-checkin.  Just because he's not making the kinda music YOU want to hear (early/mid-90s' G-Funk) doesn't mean he's gotten worse.  Snoop's been pushing artistic boundaries and maintaining his grip on hip-hop for almost 15 years now, and his last album actually produced his biggest hit single ever.  So yeah, I'd say that definitely makes him better with age, because even if ya'll think he fell off, there's 2 million people out there that made "Drop It Like It's Hot" a smash hit, and they'd all like to disagree with you.

ANY muh'fucka that's still putting out successful albums has almost certainly gotten better with age...Scarface (15 years in the game and still going), Nas (10 years in the game and going), etc.  As for Daz, Kurupt, Eiht, Spice-1, etc...face it, all those cats are washed up at this point.  If they weren't, people other than ya'll would still be checking for their shit, and they wouldn't be putting out their records on indie labels and trying to earn enough just to eat.  Although with Daz, I'll at least give him a chance and see if he can reinvent himself and sound relevent again when his So So Def album comes out.
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on February 27, 2006, 06:41:26 PM
Anybody who says Snoop has gotten worse needs a serious chin-checkin.  Just because he's not making the kinda music YOU want to hear (early/mid-90s' G-Funk) doesn't mean he's gotten worse.  Snoop's been pushing artistic boundaries and maintaining his grip on hip-hop for almost 15 years now, and his last album actually produced his biggest hit single ever.  So yeah, I'd say that definitely makes him better with age, because even if ya'll think he fell off, there's 2 million people out there that made "Drop It Like It's Hot" a smash hit, and they'd all like to disagree with you.

ANY muh'fucka that's still putting out successful albums has almost certainly gotten better with age...Scarface (15 years in the game and still going), Nas (10 years in the game and going), etc.  As for Daz, Kurupt, Eiht, Spice-1, etc...face it, all those cats are washed up at this point.  If they weren't, people other than ya'll would still be checking for their shit, and they wouldn't be putting out their records on indie labels and trying to earn enough just to eat.  Although with Daz, I'll at least give him a chance and see if he can reinvent himself and sound relevent again when his So So Def album comes out.
So true.
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: eKardz on February 27, 2006, 06:42:25 PM
Anybody who says Snoop has gotten worse needs a serious chin-checkin.  Just because he's not making the kinda music YOU want to hear (early/mid-90s' G-Funk) doesn't mean he's gotten worse.  Snoop's been pushing artistic boundaries and maintaining his grip on hip-hop for almost 15 years now, and his last album actually produced his biggest hit single ever.  So yeah, I'd say that definitely makes him better with age, because even if ya'll think he fell off, there's 2 million people out there that made "Drop It Like It's Hot" a smash hit, and they'd all like to disagree with you.

ANY muh'fucka that's still putting out successful albums has almost certainly gotten better with age...Scarface (15 years in the game and still going), Nas (10 years in the game and going), etc.  As for Daz, Kurupt, Eiht, Spice-1, etc...face it, all those cats are washed up at this point.  If they weren't, people other than ya'll would still be checking for their shit, and they wouldn't be putting out their records on indie labels and trying to earn enough just to eat.  Although with Daz, I'll at least give him a chance and see if he can reinvent himself and sound relevent again when his So So Def album comes out.

i was going to say snoop got worse, but actually i agree with you.  he keeps coming out with fresh new stuff, it might not be what i like, but snoop is still on top in the game.  good call.
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: truedupbluedup on February 27, 2006, 08:37:32 PM
I dont care about who has gotten worse, but the guys that have gotten better are...

Game (From the first aftermath mixtape he was on until now) 100 bars- 300 bars HE IS WAY BETTEr
yukmouth
Havoc (Gotten better every year and outshines P now)
Jayo Felony
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: $do11a biLL$ on February 27, 2006, 08:46:25 PM
Definetly LL Cool J. I was switching through channels today and caught his new video with JLo and its almost like "Laffy Taffy" bad.

Another one that came to my mind was The Beastie Boys. They can never be like they were when they were on Def Jam. They still come out with tight music but they rap about fuckin Sasquatch and robots and shit like that too much now.
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: C-BLUE on February 28, 2006, 12:01:58 AM
eiht is completely fuccin washed up. he came from bad to fuccin horrible.and daz he was never a rapper..the nigga sounds like a neuro patient on wax. so daz sticc to producin and stop pretendin you a Crip. Snoop..the nigga could flow under a Dre beat but he is shit without it. He came from aspirin gangsta rapper to a freaky ass commercialized pop artist.


LL Cool J = washed up
Yukmouth = just wacc
The Game = a fake, no street credibility
Jayo Felony = his old shit is raw, but he's mislead now
Kurupt = good flow for a studio gangsta
Spice 1 = tight lyricist, but the recent beats are wacc
Ice Cube = tight lyricist. beats are tight. but never been a real G.
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: westkoastanostra on February 28, 2006, 01:09:54 AM
^^^yea but have u checked out his mixtape he put out in 04...that shit was fire!

na i never heard about tht, what is it?

its called "westcoast heavy hitter" i think he stepped his game up right there....
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: WestCoasta on February 28, 2006, 01:26:01 AM
I think Tha Alkaholiks got worse
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: mauzip on February 28, 2006, 03:35:39 AM
Anybody who says Snoop has gotten worse needs a serious chin-checkin.  Just because he's not making the kinda music YOU want to hear (early/mid-90s' G-Funk) doesn't mean he's gotten worse.  Snoop's been pushing artistic boundaries and maintaining his grip on hip-hop for almost 15 years now, and his last album actually produced his biggest hit single ever.  So yeah, I'd say that definitely makes him better with age, because even if ya'll think he fell off, there's 2 million people out there that made "Drop It Like It's Hot" a smash hit, and they'd all like to disagree with you.

ANY muh'fucka that's still putting out successful albums has almost certainly gotten better with age...Scarface (15 years in the game and still going), Nas (10 years in the game and going), etc.  As for Daz, Kurupt, Eiht, Spice-1, etc...face it, all those cats are washed up at this point.  If they weren't, people other than ya'll would still be checking for their shit, and they wouldn't be putting out their records on indie labels and trying to earn enough just to eat.  Although with Daz, I'll at least give him a chance and see if he can reinvent himself and sound relevent again when his So So Def album comes out.

i was going to say snoop got worse, but actually i agree with you.  he keeps coming out with fresh new stuff, it might not be what i like, but snoop is still on top in the game.  good call.
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: mauzip on February 28, 2006, 03:45:56 AM
a couple that aren't mentioned yet:

better:
Lil Wayne -> undeniable
Kanye West -> undeniable
Bun B -> his guest features the past 2 years have all been fire, but his album was disappointing

worse:
Eminem -> undeniable
Ja Rule -> he released a handful good tracks, which I really liked, but Venni Vetti Vecci was definately his prime as far quality music goes
The D.O.C. -> I hate to say it, but that car accident really did him no good :(
Xzibit -> his first three albums are dope as fuck, whereas his last two albums weren't even worth buying
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: evan the dude on February 28, 2006, 03:51:07 AM
eiht is completely fuccin washed up. he came from bad to fuccin horrible.and daz he was never a rapper..the nigga sounds like a neuro patient on wax. so daz sticc to producin and stop pretendin you a Crip. Snoop..the nigga could flow under a Dre beat but he is shit without it. He came from aspirin gangsta rapper to a freaky ass commercialized pop artist.


LL Cool J = washed up
Yukmouth = just wacc



I can agree with ya on LL, but Yuk? I believe Yuk has grown greatly as an artist from the days of the Luniz. He is an entreprenuer, always thinking of new ideas and searching for new talent. As for his flow and lyrics, I believe he has maintained his own unique style, which is dope. It's nothin like a lot of the artists out there today, westcoast or wherever. It's dope.
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: Meho on February 28, 2006, 04:50:52 AM
Anybody who says Snoop has gotten worse needs a serious chin-checkin.  Just because he's not making the kinda music YOU want to hear (early/mid-90s' G-Funk) doesn't mean he's gotten worse.  Snoop's been pushing artistic boundaries and maintaining his grip on hip-hop for almost 15 years now, and his last album actually produced his biggest hit single ever.  So yeah, I'd say that definitely makes him better with age, because even if ya'll think he fell off, there's 2 million people out there that made "Drop It Like It's Hot" a smash hit, and they'd all like to disagree with you.

ANY muh'fucka that's still putting out successful albums has almost certainly gotten better with age...Scarface (15 years in the game and still going), Nas (10 years in the game and going), etc.  As for Daz, Kurupt, Eiht, Spice-1, etc...face it, all those cats are washed up at this point.  If they weren't, people other than ya'll would still be checking for their shit, and they wouldn't be putting out their records on indie labels and trying to earn enough just to eat.  Although with Daz, I'll at least give him a chance and see if he can reinvent himself and sound relevent again when his So So Def album comes out.
So true.
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: Mygla on February 28, 2006, 07:33:53 AM

Xzibit -> his first three albums are dope as fuck, whereas his last two albums weren't even worth buying

triple WORD on that one...

Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: Noname on February 28, 2006, 08:32:56 AM
Most rappers get worse when they get older. When your young your hungry you dont give a fuck. 99% of all  rappers lose it once they in the game for a while. Its a shame man.
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: $do11a biLL$ on February 28, 2006, 08:55:05 AM

Xzibit -> his first three albums are dope as fuck, whereas his last two albums weren't even worth buying

triple WORD on that one...



Symphony In X Major and What A Mess made Man Vs. Machine worth buying. WOMD definetly was a big dissapointment.
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: Bigg $amo on February 28, 2006, 09:00:16 AM
E-40 has gotten better  8)
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: gav09 on February 28, 2006, 09:06:01 AM
WOMD definetly was a big dissapointment.
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: sharjiel on February 28, 2006, 10:12:20 AM
Every rappers falls with time IMO!
maybe its the money...maybe they livin' good now so cant find that hiunger no moe!

Kool G of DJ Polo days aint the same as Kool G on Giannaca story
Kurupt of old dunt cum close with current kurrut
50 cent...everybidy knows the stiry their
KRS-one remains crack...keep rite was diope 8)
AZ n Nas got better!!(too much love for'em to hate on these two)!



oh yea n i forgot....

VANILLA ICE FELL OFF---or was he wack frm start  ;D
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: Turf Hitta on February 28, 2006, 10:22:26 AM
Yall crazy to say Snoop has gotten better. After The Doggfather, half his shit aint even on beat when he raps. He has gotten smarter over the years and figured out how to cater to a larger demographic though. I dont think that means he's better though.

 San Quinn is still one of the better rappers out there but he hasnt made a classic since The Hustle Continues.

 And personally I kind of like that new LL shit cause it recreated the mid 80;s type of vibe and actually sounds authentic. A lot of yall actin like its an abomination or somethin. It could do without j lo, but its still not a bad song.
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: Diggfinger on February 28, 2006, 11:45:12 AM
I liked Dre's rap better in the past. Now he always repeats himself with all that "they dont love me, but they should cuz im a legend blablabla". He just needs to shit on that and make some stuff to prove haters wrong!
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: Eihtball on February 28, 2006, 12:09:30 PM
Yall crazy to say Snoop has gotten better. After The Doggfather, half his shit aint even on beat when he raps. He has gotten smarter over the years and figured out how to cater to a larger demographic though. I dont think that means he's better though.

He's off-beat?  Huh?

I never said Snoop's gotten better, just that he hasn't fallen off, either.
Title: Re: Rappers that get better/worse with age?
Post by: truedupbluedup on February 28, 2006, 12:35:34 PM
Snoop hasnt really fell off but his style has changed so much and now he doesnt really rap that cool gangsta shit that was so tight that he used too, so it seems like he  fell of when really he just changed his style. His rhymes were always basic, just so smooth and precise. He never had a vocab like a Kurupt.