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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: LooN3y on November 11, 2011, 10:22:24 PM
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that you can literally count (if u have any) tupac songs that u don't like. and u can't count the ones you do.
i wonder when were going to get a artist of his caliber again.
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His name is Masta Ace and he came out before Pac
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In terms of painting a vivid picture with lyrics, putting his whole life good or bad in his songs, being able to make music his fans can relate to...joe budden is right there. Maybe even passed him since pac had to be such a tough guy he couldnt admit his own faults like joey does.
I thought mm2 would be his masterpiece but he matched it with mm3. And mm4? Shit out of this world
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So much PCP I changed my name to watermouth
Pumpin Masta Ace I walked into a jewish Slaughtahouse
but forreal masta ace put out lots of super weak shit and he still does. (masta ace and edog?) pac has a lotta wack songs too. The scarface songs i dont like i could count on one hand.
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His name is Masta Ace and he came out before Pac
lmao
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So much PCP I changed my name to watermouth
Pumpin Masta Ace I walked into a jewish Slaughtahouse
but forreal masta ace put out lots of super weak shit and he still does. (masta ace and edog?) pac has a lotta wack songs too. The scarface songs i dont like i could count on one hand.
That was a dope album. I'd say his two collaborations are his weakest though. His solo shit is pretty much unfuckable with. I can't think of any other rapper with a more consistent discography.
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So much PCP I changed my name to watermouth
Pumpin Masta Ace I walked into a jewish Slaughtahouse
but forreal masta ace put out lots of super weak shit and he still does. (masta ace and edog?) pac has a lotta wack songs too. The scarface songs i dont like i could count on one hand.
That was a dope album. I'd say his two collaborations are his weakest though. His solo shit is pretty much unfuckable with. I can't think of any other rapper with a more consistent discography.
his shits dope, no doubt, but it aint on 2pacs level..
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So much PCP I changed my name to watermouth
Pumpin Masta Ace I walked into a jewish Slaughtahouse
but forreal masta ace put out lots of super weak shit and he still does. (masta ace and edog?) pac has a lotta wack songs too. The scarface songs i dont like i could count on one hand.
That was a dope album. I'd say his two collaborations are his weakest though. His solo shit is pretty much unfuckable with. I can't think of any other rapper with a more consistent discography.
i think scarface is the best answer personally. quik and cube are good. tame one only has a few wack songs. and el-p, altho his music is not for everyone, has never made a weak track.
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In terms of painting a vivid picture with lyrics, putting his whole life good or bad in his songs, being able to make music his fans can relate to...joe budden is right there. Maybe even passed him since pac had to be such a tough guy he couldnt admit his own faults like joey does.
I thought mm2 would be his masterpiece but he matched it with mm3. And mm4? Shit out of this world
Hahahahahahaha
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His name is Masta Ace and he came out before Pac
Ace is great, but no. Just no.
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Don't compare any rapper to Pac. Now i'm no religious guy but i seriously believe he is the reincarnation of Jesus Christ. How else can you explain his deep and inspiring lyrics. Go listen to whatz yo phone number before you compare him to your average rappers.
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So much PCP I changed my name to watermouth
Pumpin Masta Ace I walked into a jewish Slaughtahouse
but forreal masta ace put out lots of super weak shit and he still does. (masta ace and edog?) pac has a lotta wack songs too. The scarface songs i dont like i could count on one hand.
That was a dope album. I'd say his two collaborations are his weakest though. His solo shit is pretty much unfuckable with. I can't think of any other rapper with a more consistent discography.
i think scarface is the best answer personally. quik and cube are good. tame one only has a few wack songs. and el-p, altho his music is not for everyone, has never made a weak track.
Scarface is a good contender. Cube? :-X Not after his last album. The latter half of his career doesn't stack up to the beginning. I don't consider any of Quik's work great, though he's good at consistently making bumpable music. I can't speak on Tame One or El-P's solo work.
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In terms of painting a vivid picture with lyrics, putting his whole life good or bad in his songs, being able to make music his fans can relate to...joe budden is right there. Maybe even passed him since pac had to be such a tough guy he couldnt admit his own faults like joey does.
I thought mm2 would be his masterpiece but he matched it with mm3. And mm4? Shit out of this world
Hahahahahahaha
Funny part?
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His name is Masta Ace and he came out before Pac
Ace is great, but no. Just no.
imo when you compare their first 5 albums, Ace comes out on top.
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In terms of painting a vivid picture with lyrics, putting his whole life good or bad in his songs, being able to make music his fans can relate to...joe budden is right there. Maybe even passed him since pac had to be such a tough guy he couldnt admit his own faults like joey does.
I thought mm2 would be his masterpiece but he matched it with mm3. And mm4? Shit out of this world
Hahahahahahaha
Funny part?
Man Joe Budden is one of the most average rappers around. How can you compare him to Tupac (and I'm not even a big fan)
I gave Budden so many chances it's not even funny. I downloaded his mixtapes because people were like 'oh man that's the shit' but maaaannn...
he raps like he got something in his mouth.
But yea, he makes good sleeping music.
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pac has quite a few terrible songs. and no classic albums. i really dont give a fuck what anyone says, dude has lots of classic songs, but forreal i listen to a lotta hip hop, dude isnt anywhere near the top. and face is leaps and bounds beyond pac when it comes to solo discography. sorry in advance for everyone who will catch feelings.
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roflmao@joe budden
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pac was dope but he was not an exceptional rapper like most would believe. his death row material was great imo but there was and are better emcees than pac. most of you guys became fans of pac circa all eyez on me. before that people coulda cared less about anything tupac related.
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catchin feelings on a message board?
No
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catchin feelings on a message board?
No
maybe not here, i'm pretty new to this board. go check out ughh. that shit is a mess of emotions.
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catchin feelings on a message board?
No
maybe not here, i'm pretty new to this board. go check out ughh. that shit is a mess of emotions.
u ain't lying.
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pac has quite a few terrible songs. and no classic albums. i really dont give a fuck what anyone says, dude has lots of classic songs, but forreal i listen to a lotta hip hop, dude isnt anywhere near the top. and face is leaps and bounds beyond pac when it comes to solo discography. sorry in advance for everyone who will catch feelings.
pac had no classic albums ? what the fuck ? sorry to tell you this but 2pac did have 2 classic albums called ME against the world & makavilla the 7 day theory. yes 2pac is near the top because of raw emotion & his story telling abilities. no i not catch feeling ! i am pointing out facts you seem to not know . also don't try that i listen to a lotta hip hop bullshit with me becuase you could never ever have listen to as much a me . because i been doing since 1982! so i don't give fuck you think or says or what anybody else thinks or says . because what I said is fact !
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His name is Masta Ace and he came out before Pac
I'm not even going to get into anything on a west coast forum about anyone being better than Pac...but in my humble opinion Masta Ace is THE MOST slept on rapper of all time. I personally don't think there's a rapper out there with a more consistent discography for as long as him. Incredible emcee.
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7 day theory is so weak its crazy what people say about it. yeah it was his last before he dies, and thats why its so highly regarded. there is some straight up terrible production on there, me against the world is pacs best album, but there are some super dated tracks, it doesnt flow. with the classic tracks and the weak tracks on there it's not a good look. and i already said i dont give a fuck what anyone says. i knew somebody would be catching feelings.
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pac was dope but he was not an exceptional rapper like most would believe. his death row material was great imo but there was and are better emcees than pac. most of you guys became fans of pac circa all eyez on me. before that people coulda cared less about anything tupac related.
your saying people coulda cared less about anything tupac related before is all eyez on me is total crock of bullshit . it is fact people cared about 2pac because of juice & then when i get around & keep ya head came out aka strickly 4 my niggaz & then after came out the classic album me against the world . people were caring about 2pac way before death row & that is fact. i am tired of no one cared about 2pac before all eyes on me & death row bullshit . when it is totally false !. you people don't know you history & were not hold enough to even know about 2pac before death row it seams . i been living listening to hip hop since 1982 & i can tell people cared about 2pac since juice & after . go watch some old yo mtv raps & old rap city because they will show 2pac was cared about alot way before death row . 2pac was in 2 hit movies juice & poetic justic way before death row .. so get you facts right before you talk & look like an ignorant jackass who has no idea what he is talking about !
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masta ace hasnt had a good album since he dropped summer. wtf are yall talking about. if he dropped a solo between then and now it must have been super wack cause i havnt heard it, but face it, all his comps and group shit has been weak. how can you call him consistent when he hasnt dropped anything worth mentioning in 8 years? did u hear his "supergroup" emc? that shit was embarrasing.
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His name is Masta Ace and he came out before Pac
I'm not even going to get into anything on a west coast forum about anyone being better than Pac...but in my humble opinion Masta Ace is THE MOST slept on rapper of all time. I personally don't think there's a rapper out there with a more consistent discography for as long as him. Incredible emcee.
master ace is very slept & very underratted. people don't even realise he is the reason for slaughterhouses name .
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pac was dope but he was not an exceptional rapper like most would believe. his death row material was great imo but there was and are better emcees than pac. most of you guys became fans of pac circa all eyez on me. before that people coulda cared less about anything tupac related.
your saying people coulda cared less about anything tupac related before is all eyez on me is total crock of bullshit . it is fact people cared about 2pac because of juice & then when i get around & keep ya head came out aka strickly 4 my niggaz & then after came out the classic album me against the world . people were caring about 2pac way before death row & that is fact. i am tired of no one cared about 2pac before all eyes on me & death row bullshit . when it is totally false !. you people don't know you history & were not hold enough to even know about 2pac before death row it seams . i been living listening to hip hop since 1982 & i can tell people cared about 2pac since juice & after . go watch some old yo mtv raps & old rap city because they will show 2pac was cared about alot way before death row . 2pac was in 2 hit movies juice & poetic justic way before death row .. so get you facts right before you talk & look like an ignorant jackass who has no idea what he is talking about !
LMFAO..... anyway. yes pac did all those movies cool. a few albums great. me against the world was his FIRST number 1 album on the charts. i wonder why. however they obviously didn't generate him much income he couldn't even pay 1.4. million for himself to get outta jail. yeah he had legal problems and shit but he shoulda made a substantial amount of bread to hold it down if he was crackin' like you claim. don't go tellin me about what i don't know about i grew up on gangsta shit and and is very knowledgeable about this hip hop i live this shit. and as far as ignorant goes that nigga died tryin to fuckin gangbang at 25 years old and was a star what kinda shit is that ? most west coast rappers that banged joined or was affiliated as young as 8 or 9 years old or older into their teens. this nigga became a major star to set himself back by tryin to be down. and i'm ignorant ? fuck outta here you've been misguided punk.
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7 day theory is so weak its crazy what people say about it. yeah it was his last before he dies, and thats why its so highly regarded. there is some straight up terrible production on there, me against the world is pacs best album, but there are some super dated tracks, it doesnt flow. with the classic tracks and the weak tracks on there it's not a good look. and i already said i dont give a fuck what anyone says. i knew somebody would be catching feelings.
by fact 7 day theory is not wack . . please no track on me against the world sound dated at all & there is not even one weak track at all . me against world is an album you can play all the way threw. no one but you is catch feelings but you already catch feelings when you said i already said i dont give a fuck what anyone says. it seems you just can't handle the straight truth ! it seems you don't want to hear the truth you come off like an hater anyways . you try & discredit 2pac & try & do the same to masta ace . please tell me when you starting listen to hip hop & who you favorite rappers is ? because your hip hop credibility is being called out !i bet everybody say 2pac is better then your favortie rapper & it makes you angry & hater !
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another thing i always hear about how dude was so supportive and vocal of the ghetto and such did he give to any charities ? did he rebuild any neighborhoods ? boys and girls club ? anything ? or did he just rap about the ghetto and support the ghetto on wax ? so what has dude really done for the ghetto besides make a livin off it ?
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7 day theory is so weak its crazy what people say about it. yeah it was his last before he dies, and thats why its so highly regarded. there is some straight up terrible production on there, me against the world is pacs best album, but there are some super dated tracks, it doesnt flow. with the classic tracks and the weak tracks on there it's not a good look. and i already said i dont give a fuck what anyone says. i knew somebody would be catching feelings.
by fact 7 day theory is not wack . . please no track on me against the world sound dated at all & there is not even one weak track at all . me against world is an album you can play all the way threw. no one but you is catch feelings but you already catch feelings when you said i already said i dont give a fuck what anyone says. it seems you just can't handle the straight truth ! it seems you don't want to hear the truth you come off like an hater anyways . you try & discredit 2pac & try & do the same to masta ace . please tell me when you starting listen to hip hop & who you favorite rappers is ? because your hip hop credibility is being called out !i bet everybody say 2pac is better then your favortie rapper & it makes you angry & hater !
na buddy i dont really care about rappers like you do. and bro before you get yourself in a big huff go chill for a second , smoke a cig, then come back and see if u still wanna write that tupac paragraph. if u dont feel like an idiot for your last few posts your takin this shit way too serious.
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masta ace hasnt had a good album since he dropped summer. wtf are yall talking about. if he dropped a solo between then and now it must have been super wack cause i havnt heard it, but face it, all his comps and group shit has been weak. how can you call him consistent when he hasnt dropped anything worth mentioning in 8 years? did u hear his "supergroup" emc? that shit was embarrasing.
You didn't like his two group albums? The Show and A & E were two solid albums. Preceded by 5 great albums. Name anyone's discography who can fuck with that.
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masta ace hasnt had a good album since he dropped summer. wtf are yall talking about. if he dropped a solo between then and now it must have been super wack cause i havnt heard it, but face it, all his comps and group shit has been weak. how can you call him consistent when he hasnt dropped anything worth mentioning in 8 years? did u hear his "supergroup" emc? that shit was embarrasing.
You didn't like his two group albums? The Show and A & E were two solid albums. Preceded by 5 great albums. Name anyone's discography who can fuck with that.
i thought the show and the arts entertainment were sub par. his solo's range from alright to classic, thats just my opinion. waiting on a new solo tho i'll always check some masta ace,.
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another thing i always hear about how dude was so supportive and vocal of the ghetto and such did he give to any charities ? did he rebuild any neighborhoods ? boys and girls club ? anything ? or did he just rap about the ghetto and support the ghetto on wax ? so what has dude really done for the ghetto besides make a livin off it ?
Alot of things don't make the news. Can pretty much ask the same question for all celebrities.
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Some of the replies on this thread are border line ridiculous
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another thing i always hear about how dude was so supportive and vocal of the ghetto and such did he give to any charities ? did he rebuild any neighborhoods ? boys and girls club ? anything ? or did he just rap about the ghetto and support the ghetto on wax ? so what has dude really done for the ghetto besides make a livin off it ?
Alot of things don't make the news. Can pretty much ask the same question for all celebrities.
in some cases. but a lot of rappers have done substantial things for the community and it's been aware of. but what i'm sayin is some people on here worship pac like he could walk on water and he spoke for the ghetto and etc. but if you ain't really helpin the ghetto and you just talkin about the issues in the ghetto without helpin fix it you just as bad as a person who doesn't vote but complains about the problems of the economy. if you not part of the solution you are defintely part of the problem. that my gripe. i'm not a pac hater. he has great music wit a message of course but so many other artist do as well. but if you talk it walk it.
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masta ace hasnt had a good album since he dropped summer. wtf are yall talking about. if he dropped a solo between then and now it must have been super wack cause i havnt heard it, but face it, all his comps and group shit has been weak. how can you call him consistent when he hasnt dropped anything worth mentioning in 8 years? did u hear his "supergroup" emc? that shit was embarrasing.
You didn't like his two group albums? The Show and A & E were two solid albums. Preceded by 5 great albums. Name anyone's discography who can fuck with that.
Mac Dre
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The Notorious BIG
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i'm kinda shocked that kdub hasnt edited the "......." out of the title yet......
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masta ace hasnt had a good album since he dropped summer. wtf are yall talking about. if he dropped a solo between then and now it must have been super wack cause i havnt heard it, but face it, all his comps and group shit has been weak. how can you call him consistent when he hasnt dropped anything worth mentioning in 8 years? did u hear his "supergroup" emc? that shit was embarrasing.
You didn't like his two group albums? The Show and A & E were two solid albums. Preceded by 5 great albums. Name anyone's discography who can fuck with that.
i thought the show and the arts entertainment were sub par. his solo's range from alright to classic, thats just my opinion. waiting on a new solo tho i'll always check some masta ace,.
I got madd respect for Masta Ace. Im not an expert or his biggest fan by any means, but that INC Ride album in 95 was the shit! He was fucking killing it in those days, and the album that proceeded it I think it was called Slaughterhouse that shit was pretty impressive as well, although I didnt get into him till 95 when INC Ride video was blowin up on MTV. that was the shit me and my homies used to listen to the most in those days
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you guys are embarassing yourselves and losing credibility post by post.
did someone really compare Joe Budden to 2pac?? lol Jesus Christ...
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His name is Masta Ace and he came out before Pac
Masta Ace is one of the greats for sure, but so different from Pac its hard to even compare them. Pac had far more of an impact, but I'd put Disposable Arts up with anything Pac has done. Ace is a far better MC obviously, but his songs didn't touch nearly as many people as Pac. OVerall, the better artist by quite a bit is 2pac, although like I said, Ace is one of the best ever and criminally underrated
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pac was dope but he was not an exceptional rapper like most would believe. his death row material was great imo but there was and are better emcees than pac. most of you guys became fans of pac circa all eyez on me. before that people coulda cared less about anything tupac related.
your saying people coulda cared less about anything tupac related before is all eyez on me is total crock of bullshit . it is fact people cared about 2pac because of juice & then when i get around & keep ya head came out aka strickly 4 my niggaz & then after came out the classic album me against the world . people were caring about 2pac way before death row & that is fact. i am tired of no one cared about 2pac before all eyes on me & death row bullshit . when it is totally false !. you people don't know you history & were not hold enough to even know about 2pac before death row it seams . i been living listening to hip hop since 1982 & i can tell people cared about 2pac since juice & after . go watch some old yo mtv raps & old rap city because they will show 2pac was cared about alot way before death row . 2pac was in 2 hit movies juice & poetic justic way before death row .. so get you facts right before you talk & look like an ignorant jackass who has no idea what he is talking about !
I agree...Pac had a HUGE impact BEFORE Death Row. People who weren't around at the time just dont get it. Songs like Dear Mama and Keep Ya Head Up changed the rap game. There was something about 2pac long before DR, he had an aura about him, and had a HUGE following despite his first two albums being inconsistent.
As to say Pac wasn't an exceptional raper or emcee, well, I guess in the truest sense of the term EMCEE, he wasn't. BUt to judge Pac on that would be shortsighted. He made songs with meaning, his songs conveyed emotions of all kinds, he made songs that people could relate to, he made songs people could use for escapism...he was INCREDIBLE.
If anything, he has become underrated in the last 10 years due to the abundance of songs that should never have came out, songs with recycled verses and themes, etc.
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His name is Masta Ace and he came out before Pac
Masta Ace is one of the greats for sure, but so different from Pac its hard to even compare them. Pac had far more of an impact, but I'd put Disposable Arts up with anything Pac has done. Ace is a far better MC obviously, but his songs didn't touch nearly as many people as Pac. OVerall, the better artist by quite a bit is 2pac, although like I said, Ace is one of the best ever and criminally underrated
Who cares about impact? His discography is better.
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i didnt really like "disposbale arts"
, then again its the only Masta ace-record ive ver heard
what the milsestone of his discograhy?
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i didnt really like "disposbale arts"
, then again its the only Masta ace-record ive ver heard
what the milsestone of his discograhy?
check out "sittin on chrome"
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7 day theory is so weak its crazy what people say about it. yeah it was his last before he dies, and thats why its so highly regarded. there is some straight up terrible production on there, me against the world is pacs best album, but there are some super dated tracks, it doesnt flow. with the classic tracks and the weak tracks on there it's not a good look. and i already said i dont give a fuck what anyone says. i knew somebody would be catching feelings.
by fact 7 day theory is not wack . . please no track on me against the world sound dated at all & there is not even one weak track at all . me against world is an album you can play all the way threw. no one but you is catch feelings but you already catch feelings when you said i already said i dont give a fuck what anyone says. it seems you just can't handle the straight truth ! it seems you don't want to hear the truth you come off like an hater anyways . you try & discredit 2pac & try & do the same to masta ace . please tell me when you starting listen to hip hop & who you favorite rappers is ? because your hip hop credibility is being called out !i bet everybody say 2pac is better then your favortie rapper & it makes you angry & hater !
na buddy i dont really care about rappers like you do. and bro before you get yourself in a big huff go chill for a second , smoke a cig, then come back and see if u still wanna write that tupac paragraph. if u dont feel like an idiot for your last few posts your takin this shit way too serious.
so you are telling me you don't care about hip hop at all. then why are you on this forum if you don't care about hip hop . i don't feel like idiot at all because you are the ignorant closeminded idiot who does not get at all . no i taking the right amount of serious because life is serious & not fun . . see you look this just as music . when it is not just music . hip hop is culture that is taken real serious & is more then music . if you are not down with that then take you ass down road & leave my culture alone . that includes music . see problem with your kind is you don't respect hip hop or the history of it at all. also your answer back to me proved i got your ass & that you gave me a bullshit chicken shit answer . i don't smole nasty ass cigs like you,youngster. hip hop is serious & you need to show the right respect for it . first by knowing hip hops history before you open your ignorant closeminded mouth about something you have no idea or clue about . it make you look like ignorant jackass who talking out his ignorant ass. see this is problem with your generation !
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Don't compare any rapper to Pac.
Why not?
Now i'm no religious guy but i seriously believe he is the reincarnation of Jesus Christ.
Clearly, you're not a religious guy. The fact that you compared Tupac to Jesus Christ would suggest, you're not too familiar with who the latter actually was.
How else can you explain his deep and inspiring lyrics.
Maybe it was because the guy was an exceptional song writer who knew how to write deep music. That hardly makes him Jesus, you fucking noob.
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I may be wrong but Raphael's post was 100% satirical and ironical in my mind.
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you guys are embarassing yourselves and losing credibility post by post.
did someone really compare Joe Budden to 2pac?? lol Jesus Christ...
i stopped taking this thread seriously after that, its obvious u can't name tupac, or DPG on this forums without some dick riding and trolling
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His name is Masta Ace and he came out before Pac
Masta Ace is one of the greats for sure, but so different from Pac its hard to even compare them. Pac had far more of an impact, but I'd put Disposable Arts up with anything Pac has done. Ace is a far better MC obviously, but his songs didn't touch nearly as many people as Pac. OVerall, the better artist by quite a bit is 2pac, although like I said, Ace is one of the best ever and criminally underrated
Who cares about impact? His discography is better.
Well, the "impact" of his "discography" is what I'm referencing, thus that is why it matters.
Masta Ace over Pac is a matter of opinion Spice2, and one that is shared by very few. What you say isn't gospel, but I appreciate your opinion all the same. Masta Ace is top 10 for me, possibly top 5. Disposable Arts is a top 10 album for me, Long...Summer top 20. Loved his Juice Crew shit, his INC ride stuff, etc.
If we really want to talk discography, the name Scarface should mean something
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His name is Masta Ace and he came out before Pac
Masta Ace is one of the greats for sure, but so different from Pac its hard to even compare them. Pac had far more of an impact, but I'd put Disposable Arts up with anything Pac has done. Ace is a far better MC obviously, but his songs didn't touch nearly as many people as Pac. OVerall, the better artist by quite a bit is 2pac, although like I said, Ace is one of the best ever and criminally underrated
Who cares about impact? His discography is better.
Well, the "impact" of his "discography" is what I'm referencing, thus that is why it matters.
Masta Ace over Pac is a matter of opinion Spice2, and one that is shared by very few. What you say isn't gospel, but I appreciate your opinion all the same. Masta Ace is top 10 for me, possibly top 5. Disposable Arts is a top 10 album for me, Long...Summer top 20. Loved his Juice Crew shit, his INC ride stuff, etc.
If we really want to talk discography, the name Scarface should mean something
If "impact of discography" is so important to you, why aren't we talking about Jay-Z?
fyi I already cosigned Scarface.
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it depends what you was bumpin by pac..i cant really get into 2pacNow and stritcly4mN except few tracks but almost everything after thug life (thug life incl. of course) is tha shit and pac is tha G.O.A.T fa sure.
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it depends what you was bumpin by pac..i cant really get into 2pacNow and stritcly4mN except few tracks but almost everything after thug life (thug life incl. of course) is tha shit and pac is tha G.O.A.T fa sure.
come on man... u gotta at least like the whole second album if not the whole first album. LOL. he can't be g.o.a.t. outta curiousity what didn't you like about those albums ?
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it depends what you was bumpin by pac..i cant really get into 2pacNow and stritcly4mN except few tracks but almost everything after thug life (thug life incl. of course) is tha shit and pac is tha G.O.A.T fa sure.
come on man... u gotta at least like the whole second album if not the whole first album. LOL. he can't be g.o.a.t. outta curiousity what didn't you like about those albums ?
i dont know...maybe i haventīlistened to them properly but u cant disagree that for example: thug lifeīs vol.1 was better than 2pacNow, ok only song i like there is "souljahīs strory" and "part time mutha", on S4MN "keep ya head up", "last wordz", "repī93" thatīs all i think.you know (IMO) 1st arent on MATW level or M7DT
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it depends what you was bumpin by pac..i cant really get into 2pacNow and stritcly4mN except few tracks but almost everything after thug life (thug life incl. of course) is tha shit and pac is tha G.O.A.T fa sure.
come on man... u gotta at least like the whole second album if not the whole first album. LOL. he can't be g.o.a.t. outta curiousity what didn't you like about those albums ?
i dont know...maybe i haventīlistened to them properly but u cant disagree that for example: thug lifeīs vol.1 was better than 2pacNow, ok only song i like there is "souljahīs strory" and "part time mutha", on S4MN "keep ya head up", "last wordz", "repī93" thatīs all i think.you know (IMO) 1st arent on MATW level or M7DT
with that being said he can't be g.o.a.t.
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it depends what you was bumpin by pac..i cant really get into 2pacNow and stritcly4mN except few tracks but almost everything after thug life (thug life incl. of course) is tha shit and pac is tha G.O.A.T fa sure.
come on man... u gotta at least like the whole second album if not the whole first album. LOL. he can't be g.o.a.t. outta curiousity what didn't you like about those albums ?
i dont know...maybe i haventīlistened to them properly but u cant disagree that for example: thug lifeīs vol.1 was better than 2pacNow, ok only song i like there is "souljahīs strory" and "part time mutha", on S4MN "keep ya head up", "last wordz", "repī93" thatīs all i think.you know (IMO) 1st arent on MATW level or M7DT
with that being said he can't be g.o.a.t.
Pac is by far the GOAT and he is at legend/icon status like Bob Marley, Shakespeare, Malcomn X, Rumi, and so on. (not that I like Shakespeare, Shakespeare was wack as hell but his name is legendary like Pac's)
Pac improved with each album. I don't get into his first album much, and there are some classic cuts on Strictly 4 My Niggaz and Thug Life but to be honest I actually bump a few of his posthumous albums like R U Still Down, Still I Rise, and Until the End of Time, much more than those first 3 albums.
2pac kept getting better and better and reached the peak of his carear in the summer of 96. Thats what makes his case so legendary is that he died at his highest point, with All Eyez On Me and Mackevelli The Don dominating and changing the face of music history.
Alot of people are personally connected to the Me Against The World album and Im one of those people, it holds a lot of sentimental value but its not his magnum opus.
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it depends what you was bumpin by pac..i cant really get into 2pacNow and stritcly4mN except few tracks but almost everything after thug life (thug life incl. of course) is tha shit and pac is tha G.O.A.T fa sure.
come on man... u gotta at least like the whole second album if not the whole first album. LOL. he can't be g.o.a.t. outta curiousity what didn't you like about those albums ?
i dont know...maybe i haventīlistened to them properly but u cant disagree that for example: thug lifeīs vol.1 was better than 2pacNow, ok only song i like there is "souljahīs strory" and "part time mutha", on S4MN "keep ya head up", "last wordz", "repī93" thatīs all i think.you know (IMO) 1st arent on MATW level or M7DT
with that being said he can't be g.o.a.t.
Pac is by far the GOAT and he is at legend/icon status like Bob Marley, Shakespeare, Malcomn X, Rumi, and so on. (not that I like Shakespeare, Shakespeare was wack as hell but his name is legendary like Pac's)
Pac improved with each album. I don't get into his first album much, and there are some classic cuts on Strictly 4 My Niggaz and Thug Life but to be honest I actually bump a few of his posthumous albums like R U Still Down, Still I Rise, and Until the End of Time, much more than those first 3 albums.
2pac kept getting better and better and reached the peak of his carear in the summer of 96. Thats what makes his case so legendary is that he died at his highest point, with All Eyez On Me and Mackevelli The Don dominating and changing the face of music history.
Alot of people are personally connected to the Me Against The World album and Im one of those people, it holds a lot of sentimental value but its not his magnum opus.
i agree to an extent but he's not g.o.a.t. and his last two albums didn't change hip hop history they were both great contributions in 96 though.
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PAC was an anomaly in the sense that his first two albums are inferior to his third, fourth, and fifth. How does this, of all things, disqualify him fr being the GOAT? Most rappers fall off after their first one or two, while PAC peaked with his third IMO (others of course would say MAK or AEOM). I don't think Pac is the best ever but He's damn close
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it depends what you was bumpin by pac..i cant really get into 2pacNow and stritcly4mN except few tracks but almost everything after thug life (thug life incl. of course) is tha shit and pac is tha G.O.A.T fa sure.
come on man... u gotta at least like the whole second album if not the whole first album. LOL. he can't be g.o.a.t. outta curiousity what didn't you like about those albums ?
i dont know...maybe i haventīlistened to them properly but u cant disagree that for example: thug lifeīs vol.1 was better than 2pacNow, ok only song i like there is "souljahīs strory" and "part time mutha", on S4MN "keep ya head up", "last wordz", "repī93" thatīs all i think.you know (IMO) 1st arent on MATW level or M7DT
with that being said he can't be g.o.a.t.
Pac is by far the GOAT and he is at legend/icon status like Bob Marley, Shakespeare, Malcomn X, Rumi, and so on. (not that I like Shakespeare, Shakespeare was wack as hell but his name is legendary like Pac's)
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it depends what you was bumpin by pac..i cant really get into 2pacNow and stritcly4mN except few tracks but almost everything after thug life (thug life incl. of course) is tha shit and pac is tha G.O.A.T fa sure.
come on man... u gotta at least like the whole second album if not the whole first album. LOL. he can't be g.o.a.t. outta curiousity what didn't you like about those albums ?
i dont know...maybe i haventīlistened to them properly but u cant disagree that for example: thug lifeīs vol.1 was better than 2pacNow, ok only song i like there is "souljahīs strory" and "part time mutha", on S4MN "keep ya head up", "last wordz", "repī93" thatīs all i think.you know (IMO) 1st arent on MATW level or M7DT
with that being said he can't be g.o.a.t.
Pac is by far the GOAT and he is at legend/icon status like Bob Marley, Shakespeare, Malcomn X, Rumi, and so on. (not that I like Shakespeare, Shakespeare was wack as hell but his name is legendary like Pac's)
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Yea im bump it too, and i catch my self skiping a 90% tracks ???
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If we're talking about impact of discography, should we include LL in that list too?
Most of 2Pac's music bores me now. It's good from time to time, but his Death Row discography is over-rated, and a lot of it was rushed to churn out as much as possible, you can tell with the 1 take, with sneezing, and coughing on the background to some of the songs. Even heard on the Still I Rise album for instance.
I don't know how most (even Pac fans) can overlook his earlier material. Papaz Song, Pain, Soulja's Story, Lord Knows (one of Pacs best IMO) Hellrazor and loads more
He isn't the greatest rapper, but he's the most iconic one
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If we're talking about impact of discography, should we include LL in that list too?
Most of 2Pac's music bores me now. It's good from time to time, but his Death Row discography is over-rated, and a lot of it was rushed to churn out as much as possible, you can tell with the 1 take, with sneezing, and coughing on the background to some of the songs. Even heard on the Still I Rise album for instance.
I don't know how most (even Pac fans) can overlook his earlier material. Papaz Song, Pain, Soulja's Story, Lord Knows (one of Pacs best IMO) Hellrazor and loads more
He isn't the greatest rapper, but he's the most iconic one
the songs you listed and even more than that are my favorite tracks and they are pre-DR, so his pre-DR material isnīt overlooked by tha people who feel his music ;)
like i said before maybe pac wasnt a greatest rapper, better to say an MC but he was an icon. 2pac is deeper than this rap-shit, his whole persona was something big.
....and keep in mind he was only 25 when he died, so most of the things he said, rapped and wrote where when he was in his early 20īs, 21,22,23,etc. and i gotta admit he was damn inteligent..look at people in their 20īs now..itīs a muthafuckin shame.i hope you feel me.
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In that time, in my opnion Nas was deeper, Prodigy... But thats me.
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it depends what you was bumpin by pac..i cant really get into 2pacNow and stritcly4mN except few tracks but almost everything after thug life (thug life incl. of course) is tha shit and pac is tha G.O.A.T fa sure.
come on man... u gotta at least like the whole second album if not the whole first album. LOL. he can't be g.o.a.t. outta curiousity what didn't you like about those albums ?
i dont know...maybe i haventīlistened to them properly but u cant disagree that for example: thug lifeīs vol.1 was better than 2pacNow, ok only song i like there is "souljahīs strory" and "part time mutha", on S4MN "keep ya head up", "last wordz", "repī93" thatīs all i think.you know (IMO) 1st arent on MATW level or M7DT
what about violent off 2pacNow. that is one of dopest tracks on the album else then part time mutha,trapped ,brenda got a baby, & if my homies call. 2pacNow is more of political album then any of his other albums .
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it depends what you was bumpin by pac..i cant really get into 2pacNow and stritcly4mN except few tracks but almost everything after thug life (thug life incl. of course) is tha shit and pac is tha G.O.A.T fa sure.
come on man... u gotta at least like the whole second album if not the whole first album. LOL. he can't be g.o.a.t. outta curiousity what didn't you like about those albums ?
i dont know...maybe i haventīlistened to them properly but u cant disagree that for example: thug lifeīs vol.1 was better than 2pacNow, ok only song i like there is "souljahīs strory" and "part time mutha", on S4MN "keep ya head up", "last wordz", "repī93" thatīs all i think.you know (IMO) 1st arent on MATW level or M7DT
with that being said he can't be g.o.a.t.
Pac is by far the GOAT and he is at legend/icon status like Bob Marley, Shakespeare, Malcomn X, Rumi, and so on. (not that I like Shakespeare, Shakespeare was wack as hell but his name is legendary like Pac's)
Pac improved with each album. I don't get into his first album much, and there are some classic cuts on Strictly 4 My Niggaz and Thug Life but to be honest I actually bump a few of his posthumous albums like R U Still Down, Still I Rise, and Until the End of Time, much more than those first 3 albums.
2pac kept getting better and better and reached the peak of his carear in the summer of 96. Thats what makes his case so legendary is that he died at his highest point, with All Eyez On Me and Mackevelli The Don dominating and changing the face of music history.
Alot of people are personally connected to the Me Against The World album and Im one of those people, it holds a lot of sentimental value but its not his magnum opus.
i agree to an extent but he's not g.o.a.t. and his last two albums didn't change hip hop history they were both great contributions in 96 though.
sorry to tell you this blue magic but by fact 2pac is a goat & their is nothing you can do or say that can change that fact at all. 2pacs last 2 albums shaped hip hop history & are an important part of hip hop history . blue magic you come off like a 2pac hater .
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Don't compare any rapper to Pac. Now i'm no religious guy but i seriously believe he is the reincarnation of Jesus Christ. How else can you explain his deep and inspiring lyrics. Go listen to whatz yo phone number before you compare him to your average rappers.
the scary thing is i can no longer tell sarcasm from seriousness on this forum :-\
i agree with the talk about Pacs first 2 albums, listening to them now, with the exception of a few tracks, they havent dated well at all imo...
whoever mentioned Scarface and Masta Ace were on point tho, only a handful of artists around with a consistently dope catalogue over a long period of time
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and oh yeah, lmao at joe budden being mentioned in the same breath, shame on you!
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t.i. is the new pac.