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Title: Eminem - The King and I (ft. CeeLo GREEN) (prod by. Dr. Dre)
Post by: Sccit on May 23, 2022, 04:06:00 PM
https://twitter.com/eminem/status/1528766078549078016?s=21&t=axOo-3P0sindToHnNnfN3w
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Post by: Jay_J on May 23, 2022, 11:55:22 PM
first i thought its a rick rubin production. surprised to see its a dre production.
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Post by: Lucifuge on May 24, 2022, 01:22:29 PM
Eminem sounds like old self. 8)
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Post by: Matty on June 16, 2022, 10:03:17 AM
full track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0tDxR6roY8
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Post by: Lucifuge on June 16, 2022, 01:53:07 PM
Mediocore.
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Post by: Jay_J on June 17, 2022, 12:49:42 AM
nothing special and boring melody to me. it sounds like still need to be produced. maybe some switch or a bridge added could save it.
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Post by: Lucifuge on June 17, 2022, 01:13:45 AM
This sub is crazy produced.
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Post by: abusive on June 17, 2022, 07:08:44 AM
Sounds like vintage Em + Dre. I can see this getting plavemi in commercials and ish like that.
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Post by: Okka on June 17, 2022, 12:22:26 PM
Sounds like vintage Em + Dre. I can see this getting plavemi in commercials and ish like that.

Really? What songs this reminds you of?
Title: Re: Eminem - The King and I (ft. CeeLo GREEN) (prod by. Dr. Dre)
Post by: abusive on June 17, 2022, 03:44:35 PM
Really? What songs this reminds you of?
. IDK. it feels like a psychological track.
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Post by: mtbsm on June 17, 2022, 03:48:25 PM
Decent bars, ok flow, forgettable beat and hook.
Title: Re: Eminem - The King and I (ft. CeeLo GREEN) (prod by. Dr. Dre)
Post by: h2k4 on June 17, 2022, 03:55:11 PM
Decent bars, ok flow, forgettable beat and hook.

Casual people are going to eat this below-average ass song up though.
Title: Re: Eminem - The King and I (ft. CeeLo GREEN) (prod by. Dr. Dre)
Post by: Sccit on June 17, 2022, 04:06:54 PM
lol this sounds nothing like old em

didn’t even get all the way through
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Post by: mtbsm on June 17, 2022, 06:11:50 PM
Yeah this is not good
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Post by: thegooddoc on June 17, 2022, 08:46:32 PM
This song is cool.
Title: Re: Eminem - The King and I (ft. CeeLo GREEN) (prod by. Dr. Dre)
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on June 17, 2022, 09:04:18 PM
Meh 😑

Two devil worshippers take time out from their Cult to do a track together.  Maybe Jimmy asked them to do it.  Wasn’t impressed with their super bowl appearance, their GTA track (pushing Coward-19 cult agenda) and not impressed with this either.  Only good moment of Super Bowl was when Dre used PAC’s legacy on piano (and remember one of PAC’s last move before dying was doing “Toss it Up” video dissin Dre).  Dre want to throw up the devil horns I ain’t fuccin with Covid era Dre.  He needs to talk to his boy Busta Rhymes to straighten him out
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Post by: soopa-man on June 17, 2022, 09:33:12 PM
Meh 😑

Two devil worshippers take time out from their Cult to do a track together.  Maybe Jimmy asked them to do it.  Wasn’t impressed with their super bowl appearance, their GTA track (pushing Coward-19 cult agenda) and not impressed with this either.  Only good moment of Super Bowl was when Dre used PAC’s legacy on piano (and remember one of PAC’s last move before dying was doing “Toss it Up” video dissin Dre).  Dre want to throw up the devil horns I ain’t fuccin with Covid era Dre.  He needs to talk to his boy Busta Rhymes to straighten him out

Slightly Agree, The contract EP was sadly a sleepy amount of tracks, aside from Nipseys hook and performance not not nothing bad replay value there.  The production and sound sadly was the worst part.  Even the ETA track I don’t really fuck with too much. 

Em hasn’t really kept my attention for a full album since The Eminem Show, he has three solid ass albums and the Shady/G-Unit run was amazing to me too.  But damn it’s like you can tell you they are not even trying anymore.
Title: Re: Eminem - The King and I (ft. CeeLo GREEN) (prod by. Dr. Dre)
Post by: abusive on June 18, 2022, 04:45:28 AM
He needs to talk to his boy Busta Rhymes to straighten him out
IDK about that one...
(https://c.tenor.com/H2KMr-rLO0cAAAAC/straw-busta-rhymes.gif)(https://c.tenor.com/H2KMr-rLO0cAAAAC/straw-busta-rhymes.gif)
Title: Re: Eminem - The King and I (ft. CeeLo GREEN) (prod by. Dr. Dre)
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on June 18, 2022, 08:35:57 AM
Slightly Agree, The contract EP was sadly a sleepy amount of tracks, aside from Nipseys hook and performance not not nothing bad replay value there.  The production and sound sadly was the worst part.  Even the ETA track I don’t really fuck with too much. 

Em hasn’t really kept my attention for a full album since The Eminem Show, he has three solid ass albums and the Shady/G-Unit run was amazing to me too.  But damn it’s like you can tell you they are not even trying anymore.

Agreed, and it’s a rare and welcome sight to have anyone agree with me these days.

…on the other hand Em released that deluxe version of the Eminem Show and the “Bump Heads” track took me back to a good era when pretty much everything Em did was dope and they were actually talking about something real and relevant and that made sense—a lot of good music came out of the Ja beef.  Even Yayo sounds better on the track than anything on GTA or coming from Eminem last few years

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Post by: Suga Foot on June 18, 2022, 01:47:11 PM
The song sounds good mixing and mastering wise, but I'm not feeling it at all.  The elvis guitar riff sounds corny.  A lot of people say Elvis 'stole' or was heavily influenced by African American blues and rock & roll.  And back when Eminem was a new artist, people were saying the same thing about him and hip hop.  This song could have been more interesting if Eminem addressed that.  Like on "Witout me", “I am the worst thing since Elvis Presley to use Black music so selfishly.”

This could have been a cool song, but it's just boring.  It sounds like they were offered a lot of money, and took the gig. 
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Post by: Sccit on June 18, 2022, 10:43:11 PM
The song sounds good mixing and mastering wise, but I'm not feeling it at all.  The elvis guitar riff sounds corny.  A lot of people say Elvis 'stole' or was heavily influenced by African American blues and rock & roll.  And back when Eminem was a new artist, people were saying the same thing about him and hip hop.  This song could have been more interesting if Eminem addressed that.  Like on "Witout me", “I am the worst thing since Elvis Presley to use Black music so selfishly.”

This could have been a cool song, but it's just boring.  It sounds like they were offered a lot of money, and took the gig.

he did tho

doesn’t he have some lines about them both cakin off black music in this song? or did u mean make the whole song about it??
Title: Re: Eminem - The King and I (ft. CeeLo GREEN) (prod by. Dr. Dre)
Post by: tempo2 on June 19, 2022, 02:23:03 AM
The Eminem Show deluxe is an outstanding album, its great that "stimulate" has got on a studio album after all of these years, I dont understand how it was missed off the initial standard album 
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Post by: abusive on June 19, 2022, 08:28:36 AM
The Eminem Show deluxe is an outstanding album, its great that "stimulate" has got on a studio album after all of these years, I dont understand how it was missed off the initial standard album
I'm going to give it a listen. What's new on it?
Title: Re: Eminem - The King and I (ft. CeeLo GREEN) (prod by. Dr. Dre)
Post by: tempo2 on June 19, 2022, 12:59:47 PM
I'm going to give it a listen. What's new on it?

The three studio tracks that are added are stimulate, bump heads and jimmy mike and bryan, all obviously recorded during them sessions although I believe bump heads made it on a G-unit radio mixtape I believe. A cleaned up version of the conspiracy freestyle is on there as well although this sounds like a studio track. Quite a few instrumentals and live freestyles also added.

I really believe stimulate is one of his best tracks, don't understand how that failed the cut because it fitted on that albums artistic style and direction no problem, so well produced that album from top to bottom and definitely his magnum opus. It never really got its due as a concept album "the eminem show" and that went over peoples heads a little but it certainly was.

I think a few tracks from these sessions ultimately made it on to the 8 mile soundtrack particularly D12 rap game, but I think the inclusion of "when the music stops" pushed it to another album.
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Post by: Jay_J on June 19, 2022, 01:18:39 PM
The three studio tracks that are added are stimulate, bump heads and jimmy mike and bryan, all obviously recorded during them sessions although I believe bump heads made it on a G-unit radio mixtape I believe. A cleaned up version of the conspiracy freestyle is on there as well although this sounds like a studio track. Quite a few instrumentals and live freestyles also added.

I really believe stimulate is one of his best tracks, don't understand how that failed the cut because it fitted on that albums artistic style and direction no problem, so well produced that album from top to bottom and definitely his magnum opus. It never really got its due as a concept album "the eminem show" and that went over peoples heads a little but it certainly was.

I think a few tracks from these sessions ultimately made it on to the 8 mile soundtrack particularly D12 rap game, but I think the inclusion of "when the music stops" pushed it to another album.

which track would you replace Stimulate with if was up to you? i also think Stimulate is a good song but it still need to be produced. Still sounds like a pre version or demo.
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on June 19, 2022, 01:25:34 PM
The three studio tracks that are added are stimulate, bump heads and jimmy mike and bryan, all obviously recorded during them sessions although I believe bump heads made it on a G-unit radio mixtape I believe. A cleaned up version of the conspiracy freestyle is on there as well although this sounds like a studio track. Quite a few instrumentals and live freestyles also added.

I really believe stimulate is one of his best tracks, don't understand how that failed the cut because it fitted on that albums artistic style and direction no problem, so well produced that album from top to bottom and definitely his magnum opus. It never really got its due as a concept album "the eminem show" and that went over peoples heads a little but it certainly was.

I think a few tracks from these sessions ultimately made it on to the 8 mile soundtrack particularly D12 rap game, but I think the inclusion of "when the music stops" pushed it to another album.

No, it was "Say Goodbye to Hollywood" that pushed "Stimulate" off the album.  There was an early leak of Eminem Show that contained only the hook to each song, and that original leak had "Stimulate" in place of "Say Goodbye to Hollywood".. and "Say Goodbye To Hollywood" was a fitting track to be the last joint recorded for the album. 

"When the Music Stops" was going to be on the album regardless because D12 was still a working group at the time and there is no way he was going to put out his whole album without a D12 track.
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Post by: tempo2 on June 19, 2022, 01:35:30 PM
No, it was "Say Goodbye to Hollywood" that pushed "Stimulate" off the album.  There was an early leak of Eminem Show that contained only the hook to each song, and that original leak had "Stimulate" in place of "Say Goodbye to Hollywood".. and "Say Goodbye To Hollywood" was a fitting track to be the last joint recorded for the album. 

"When the Music Stops" was going to be on the album regardless because D12 was still a working group at the time and there is no way he was going to put out his whole album without a D12 track.

That's interesting about how stimulate was on there and was pushed off by say goodbye to hollywood. But my point still stands with regards to only one D12 song being on the album and not two. I would of kept both stimulate and say goodbye to hollywood on the album, I would of taken off my dads gone crazy or Hailies song.
Title: Re: Eminem - The King and I (ft. CeeLo GREEN) (prod by. Dr. Dre)
Post by: tempo2 on June 19, 2022, 01:39:38 PM
which track would you replace Stimulate with if was up to you? i also think Stimulate is a good song but it still need to be produced. Still sounds like a pre version or demo.

Its difficult to say but to me "without me" is by far the worst song on the album along with "drips" but one was the lead single and the other was to promote his artist, both of them didn't fit the concept of the album artistically really. I would of taken "my dads gone crazy" off the album I think in hindsight. I think stimulate is the finished product but I agree with you the mixing has a weird sonic sound to it but thats in keeping with a few songs on the album which have a similar "rock" feel.

can anybody shed any light on who produced stimulate?
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Post by: Sccit on June 19, 2022, 02:15:26 PM
The three studio tracks that are added are stimulate, bump heads and jimmy mike and bryan, all obviously recorded during them sessions although I believe bump heads made it on a G-unit radio mixtape I believe. A cleaned up version of the conspiracy freestyle is on there as well although this sounds like a studio track. Quite a few instrumentals and live freestyles also added.

I really believe stimulate is one of his best tracks, don't understand how that failed the cut because it fitted on that albums artistic style and direction no problem, so well produced that album from top to bottom and definitely his magnum opus. It never really got its due as a concept album "the eminem show" and that went over peoples heads a little but it certainly was.

I think a few tracks from these sessions ultimately made it on to the 8 mile soundtrack particularly D12 rap game, but I think the inclusion of "when the music stops" pushed it to another album.


stimulate was already out on some bonus disc.. i forget which album, but the only new track was the jimmy mike n brian joint


stimulate is classic em tho. i disagree about it bein “under produced”
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Post by: Sccit on June 19, 2022, 02:16:45 PM
Its difficult to say but to me "without me" is by far the worst song on the album along with "drips" but one was the lead single and the other was to promote his artist, both of them didn't fit the concept of the album artistically really. I would of taken "my dads gone crazy" off the album I think in hindsight. I think stimulate is the finished product but I agree with you the mixing has a weird sonic sound to it but thats in keeping with a few songs on the album which have a similar "rock" feel.

can anybody shed any light on who produced stimulate?


iirc it was eminem
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Post by: Okka on June 20, 2022, 03:32:42 AM
i also think Stimulate is a good song but it still need to be produced. Still sounds like a pre version or demo.

Do you care to elaborate?
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on June 20, 2022, 03:43:29 AM

stimulate was already out on some bonus disc

no it wasn't

...And it was the right choice to leave "Stimulate" off.  It was good, but just barely didn't make the cut.  It later got released in some kind of form.  Like someone posted above, "Drips" was a worse song, but they had to put that on there to promote Obie Trice. 
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Post by: Okka on June 20, 2022, 04:52:04 AM

stimulate was already out on some bonus disc.. i forget which album, but the only new track was the jimmy mike n brian joint


stimulate is classic em tho. i disagree about it bein “under produced”

It was on some versions of the "Cleanin' Out My Closet" single.
Title: Re: Eminem - The King and I (ft. CeeLo GREEN) (prod by. Dr. Dre)
Post by: Proc pka KP on June 20, 2022, 05:27:30 AM
Do you care to elaborate?
He's trolling.
Title: Re: Eminem - The King and I (ft. CeeLo GREEN) (prod by. Dr. Dre)
Post by: Rubinho on June 20, 2022, 05:31:53 AM
Meh 😑

Two devil worshippers take time out from their Cult to do a track together.  Maybe Jimmy asked them to do it.  Wasn’t impressed with their super bowl appearance, their GTA track (pushing Coward-19 cult agenda) and not impressed with this either.  Only good moment of Super Bowl was when Dre used PAC’s legacy on piano (and remember one of PAC’s last move before dying was doing “Toss it Up” video dissin Dre).  Dre want to throw up the devil horns I ain’t fuccin with Covid era Dre.  He needs to talk to his boy Busta Rhymes to straighten him out

Is devil worshipper comment about Dre? He seems to throw it up everywhere now
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Post by: Proc pka KP on June 20, 2022, 05:56:15 AM
Haters like Infinite is a big reason why Dre keeps his tracks to himself.
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Post by: Sccit on June 20, 2022, 07:16:02 AM
no it wasn't




yes it was

i just checked my collection .. it was on the 8 mile bonus disc.

why do you speak opinions as if they’re facts?

instead of saying “are u sure bout that?” you say “no it wasn’t!” … makes u come off funnystyle homie.
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on July 03, 2022, 11:36:23 AM

yes it was

i just checked my collection .. it was on the 8 mile bonus disc.

why do you speak opinions as if they’re facts?

instead of saying “are u sure bout that?” you say “no it wasn’t!” … makes u come off funnystyle homie.

Lol… no it wasn’t… dude your chronology is way off Eminem Show came before 8 Mile
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Post by: Sccit on July 03, 2022, 11:44:58 AM
Lol… no it wasn’t… dude your chronology is way off Eminem Show came before 8 Mile


you really are an idiot, u kno that?

(https://i.ibb.co/1n6hJpR/A7497-F27-5-C6-A-455-A-BED6-2-E3-C7-E64-F41-C.jpg)


i bought it the day it came out

https://www.moviemusic.com/soundtrack/M03654/eightmile-le/


perhaps this might help you identify that you’re typically wrong when u go against me
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Post by: astra4322 on July 03, 2022, 11:57:33 AM
Quote from: Sccit link=topic=339988.msg3169676#msg3169676 date=1656873898

you really are an idiot, u kno that?

(https://i.ibb.co/1n6hJpR/A7497-F27-5-C6-A-455-A-BED6-2-E3-C7-E64-F41-C.jpg)


i bought it the day it came out

https://www.moviemusic.com/soundtrack/M03654/eightmile-le/

 ;D

perhaps this might help you identify that you’re typically wrong when u go against me
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Post by: hitsaw on July 03, 2022, 12:34:07 PM

you really are an idiot, u kno that?

(https://i.ibb.co/1n6hJpR/A7497-F27-5-C6-A-455-A-BED6-2-E3-C7-E64-F41-C.jpg)


i bought it the day it came out

https://www.moviemusic.com/soundtrack/M03654/eightmile-le/


perhaps this might help you identify that you’re typically wrong when u go against me

Eminem show came out in may 2002.
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Post by: Sccit on July 03, 2022, 01:06:19 PM
Eminem show came out in may 2002.


yup



it was on 8 mile limited edition bonus disc tho .. not eminem show

infinite isn’t as big an eminem head as he pretends to be
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on July 03, 2022, 02:12:20 PM

yup



it was on 8 mile limited edition bonus disc tho .. not eminem show

infinite isn’t as big an eminem head as he pretends to be

It’s a music discussion, but you take everything straight to the ego—it’s not even a disagreement.  It is a misunderstanding we are talking about two different things (You want to prove you are Eminem’s greatest fan, okay, why don’t you go back to one of his arena concerts in spring 99’ and meet him or were you not old enough then to drive yourself to a concert??).

We are talking about two different things, if the argument is why “Stimulate” wasn’t on the Eminem Show and you are saying it came out on something else then I said “no it wasn’t”.  It wasn’t good enough to make the album or anything else at the time of Eminem Show (If nearly a year later it got thrown onto a Bonus disc—I already fuccin knew that—that’s a different discussion).

So maybe it’s a misunderstanding I’m not even saying you’re wrong sometimes that happens in a discussion but you want to make it in to a “who gets to be head of the Eminem Show fan club” discussion and it wasn’t that
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Post by: Sccit on July 03, 2022, 02:55:14 PM
It’s a music discussion, but you take everything straight to the ego—it’s not even a disagreement.  It is a misunderstanding we are talking about two different things (You want to prove you are Eminem’s greatest fan, okay, why don’t you go back to one of his arena concerts in spring 99’ and meet him or were you not old enough then to drive yourself to a concert??).

We are talking about two different things, if the argument is why “Stimulate” wasn’t on the Eminem Show and you are saying it came out on something else then I said “no it wasn’t”.  It wasn’t good enough to make the album or anything else at the time of Eminem Show (If nearly a year later it got thrown onto a Bonus disc—I already fuccin knew that—that’s a different discussion).

So maybe it’s a misunderstanding I’m not even saying you’re wrong sometimes that happens in a discussion but you want to make it in to a “who gets to be head of the Eminem Show fan club” discussion and it wasn’t that

i literally said “it was on some bonus disc” then you said “no it wasn’t”

then i told you i checked my collection and that it was on the 8 mile bonus disc.. and again, you pretty much called me a liar this go round and said “no it wasn’t” AGAIN and then started talking about how my eminem knowledge is “way off”

so instead of sayin “my bad, i was wrong” you start talkin bout ego and how we’re talking about “2 different things” when clearly we’re not

anything not to admit fault


THAT, my friend, is called ego .. and your false judgement is called projection.

time to self reflect. i’m serious.