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Lifestyle => Tha G-Spot => Topic started by: J.D. Wykid, Esq. on October 26, 2008, 11:52:27 PM
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Im curious to see who everyone is voting for on this election day...
if this has been posted/asked before, then sorry! i dont visit the G-Spot too often, now-a-days.
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the question is if anyone actually will vote!!
i hope for the sake of your country obama is elected!!!
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voting is a bunch of bullshit...
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voting is a bunch of bullshit...
excuse me?
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l^^ lol... I believe that voting is all just one big joke and the person with the most money and power gets to the finish line...the gov. just makes us think we have a voice.. I duno, thats just my opinion and I would prefer not to even get into it lol
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^Thats a selfish approach but I guess it is partially based on some truths.. However the right to vote is an American luxury that was fought for and isn't available in a lot of societies.
As for voting in this election, I'm going with Obama. Who else is there?
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I dont like voting.....with the Electoral College and all. But it would be Obama without a doubt.
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^Thats a selfish approach but I guess it is partially based on some truths.. However the right to vote is an American luxury that was fought for and isn't available in a lot of societies.
As for voting in this election, I'm going with Obama. Who else is there?
I appreciate the "right" to vote.. I just think it really doesnt matter.. the results will be the same whether I vote or not.. btw I am very politically uninformed since I dont get into politics at all.. I wouldnt even know where to begin. ???
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who the fuck are nader and barr? lol
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^Thats a selfish approach but I guess it is partially based on some truths.. However the right to vote is an American luxury that was fought for and isn't available in a lot of societies.
As for voting in this election, I'm going with Obama. Who else is there?
I appreciate the "right" to vote.. I just think it really doesnt matter.. the results will be the same whether I vote or not.. btw I am very politically uninformed since I dont get into politics at all.. I wouldnt even know where to begin. ???
im with you...im also thinkin if my vote counted,does even fuckin matter? IMO we as Americans are fucked either way.
Bananas i feel you also. IMO Americans as a whole grow more cynical with each election. For the simple fact that the lower/middle class citizens feel that no true "change" ever materializes,no matters who gets into office. I am a happy,proud American that wants to buy into the image the USA trys to portray but dont know if its common sense or extreme cynicism that wont allow it.
with all that bullshit said Obama>McCain
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If I could vote in this election I would vote for Obama.
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If I WOULD vote I would vote for him too lol
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do it!
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If I could vote in this election I would vote for Obama.
Barr!
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If I could vote in this election I would vote for Obama.
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Shakur/Smalls (Gangsta Party)
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Shakur/Smalls (Gangsta Party)
:D
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I came back from iraq...so i'ma go vote...haven't voted in long time...
anyway, i'm voting obama because of middle class and low class tax policy..and health policy...
I'm kinda wondering if health care is a right or priviliege.
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I'm a vote for a nigga with a muthfucking plan...guess I'll have to wait another 4 years to see what we got to choose from.
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^Thats a selfish approach but I guess it is partially based on some truths.. However the right to vote is an American luxury that was fought for and isn't available in a lot of societies.
As for voting in this election, I'm going with Obama. Who else is there?
I appreciate the "right" to vote.. I just think it really doesnt matter.. the results will be the same whether I vote or not.. btw I am very politically uninformed since I dont get into politics at all.. I wouldnt even know where to begin. ???
i guess you can only blame yourself for being an illetrate ignant motahfucka
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who the fuck are nader and barr? lol
Nader is the motherfucking reason we have safe cars. Show some respect 8)
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^Thats a selfish approach but I guess it is partially based on some truths.. However the right to vote is an American luxury that was fought for and isn't available in a lot of societies.
As for voting in this election, I'm going with Obama. Who else is there?
I appreciate the "right" to vote.. I just think it really doesnt matter.. the results will be the same whether I vote or not.. btw I am very politically uninformed since I dont get into politics at all.. I wouldnt even know where to begin. ???
Would you be more inclined to vote if election day was a national holiday, if you were forced to show up at the voting booth, or would you still not even care to vote?
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I dont like voting.....with the Electoral College and all. But it would be Obama without a doubt.
Would you rather see it be switched to a direct popular vote? I would hate for that to happen. Instead of having swing states, we will be seeing swing metropolitan cities. IMO, that would be even more unfair to the people that don't live in large cities.
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I dont like voting.....with the Electoral College and all. But it would be Obama without a doubt.
Would you rather see it be switched to a direct popular vote? I would hate for that to happen. Instead of having swing states, we will be seeing swing metropolitan cities. IMO, that would be even more unfair to the people that don't live in large cities.
it could be unfair for people in small towns because politicians wont cater to their needs as much as the needs of larger cities. But it would be far more fair in deciding a President. There are tons of people like myself who dont vote because they know that Obama winning by 1 million votes in California, or winning by 1,000.....makes no difference in the outcome of the election. And to be completely honest, areas where there a large amounts of people will always (and should be) be more of a focal point.
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I dont like voting.....with the Electoral College and all. But it would be Obama without a doubt.
Would you rather see it be switched to a direct popular vote? I would hate for that to happen. Instead of having swing states, we will be seeing swing metropolitan cities. IMO, that would be even more unfair to the people that don't live in large cities.
it could be unfair for people in small towns because politicians wont cater to their needs as much as the needs of larger cities. But it would be far more fair in deciding a President. There are tons of people like myself who dont vote because they know that Obama winning by 1 million votes in California, or winning by 1,000.....makes no difference in the outcome of the election. And to be completely honest, areas where there a large amounts of people will always (and should be) be more of a focal point.
That's also an easy advantage for the people that have the most amount of money. It's an easier victory for any Democrat if it concentrates on cities. I would rather see a Democrat earn that victory. People from California aren't directly making a difference, but believe it if Obama were to start slipping, even people in California would start tripping. The fact that he's up in the polls in California, by a very large margin shows that people in California are happy with how he's running his campaign. Our voice is still heard in this current electoral college system.
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I dont like voting.....with the Electoral College and all. But it would be Obama without a doubt.
Would you rather see it be switched to a direct popular vote? I would hate for that to happen. Instead of having swing states, we will be seeing swing metropolitan cities. IMO, that would be even more unfair to the people that don't live in large cities.
it could be unfair for people in small towns because politicians wont cater to their needs as much as the needs of larger cities. But it would be far more fair in deciding a President. There are tons of people like myself who dont vote because they know that Obama winning by 1 million votes in California, or winning by 1,000.....makes no difference in the outcome of the election. And to be completely honest, areas where there a large amounts of people will always (and should be) be more of a focal point.
That's also an easy advantage for the people that have the most amount of money. It's an easier victory for any Democrat if it concentrates on cities. I would rather see a Democrat earn that victory. People from California aren't directly making a difference, but believe it if Obama were to start slipping, even people in California would start tripping. The fact that he's up in the polls in California, by a very large margin shows that people in California are happy with how he's running his campaign. Our voice is still heard in this current electoral college system.
First off, polls are ridiculous and should probably been done away with themselves. Americans already have proven themselves to be sheep at times. It doesnt help for people to see who's winning before they vote. You get people who go with the popular pick. In this election, what Im afraid of is...youre going to get a lot of people who will see that the closer we get to election day...the more real the thought of a Black President will be, and the more youll get this flood of Southern, rural, rednecks running to the booths to get their anti-Black vote in on the ballot.
If its easier for Democrats to win large cities....so be it. One person, one vote...thats the only way its fair. If Republicans cant win over votes in Major cities, maybe its time to re-examine their beliefs.
Or if you really want to make things fair, get rid of parties all-together. The election should be Obama vs Mccain. Not the Democrat vs the Republican. How many Republicans do you think get their facts from Rush Limbaugh simply because he says what they want to hear?
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I dont like voting.....with the Electoral College and all. But it would be Obama without a doubt.
Would you rather see it be switched to a direct popular vote? I would hate for that to happen. Instead of having swing states, we will be seeing swing metropolitan cities. IMO, that would be even more unfair to the people that don't live in large cities.
it could be unfair for people in small towns because politicians wont cater to their needs as much as the needs of larger cities. But it would be far more fair in deciding a President. There are tons of people like myself who dont vote because they know that Obama winning by 1 million votes in California, or winning by 1,000.....makes no difference in the outcome of the election. And to be completely honest, areas where there a large amounts of people will always (and should be) be more of a focal point.
That's also an easy advantage for the people that have the most amount of money. It's an easier victory for any Democrat if it concentrates on cities. I would rather see a Democrat earn that victory. People from California aren't directly making a difference, but believe it if Obama were to start slipping, even people in California would start tripping. The fact that he's up in the polls in California, by a very large margin shows that people in California are happy with how he's running his campaign. Our voice is still heard in this current electoral college system.
First off, polls are ridiculous and should probably been done away with themselves. Americans already have proven themselves to be sheep at times. It doesnt help for people to see who's winning before they vote. You get people who go with the popular pick. In this election, what Im afraid of is...youre going to get a lot of people who will see that the closer we get to election day...the more real the thought of a Black President will be, and the more youll get this flood of Southern, rural, rednecks running to the booths to get their anti-Black vote in on the ballot.
If its easier for Democrats to win large cities....so be it. One person, one vote...thats the only way its fair. If Republicans cant win over votes in Major cities, maybe its time to re-examine their beliefs.
Or if you really want to make things fair, get rid of parties all-together. The election should be Obama vs Mccain. Not the Democrat vs the Republican. How many Republicans do you think get their facts from Rush Limbaugh simply because he says what they want to hear?
I agree with you that polls are bad because that has an influence on voting, but so does everything. It's impossible to have a fair vote without poll, media, and religious influence. Sit a person down and ask them to compare platforms of all the candidates with all influence removed...you'll see a whole lot of more votes for third party candidates. Too bad that the Democrats and Republicans are so power hungry that we can't have more voices in elections.
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who the fuck are nader and barr? lol
Nader is the motherfucking reason we have safe cars. Show some respect 8)
still, im a euro, who are they? Only 2 I hear off are mccain and obama
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who the fuck are nader and barr? lol
Nader is the motherfucking reason we have safe cars. Show some respect 8)
still, im a euro, who are they? Only 2 I hear off are mccain and obama
Nader is more of a liberal than Obama, he's also anti corporation basically I guess. Bob Barr is basically a conservative without all the religious tone. You hardly hear from these guys because Republicans and Democrats don't want to lose power, so they basically have a monopoly on politics. A third party voice is only heard when A. something extreme happens or B. there is an injustice to big that Democrats or Republicans start stealing platform ideas from people like Nader, Barr, etc
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cynthia / clemente
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cynthia mckinney is gangsta. the powers that be would NEVER let her win, though. especially cause of the whole 9/11-bush thing.
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^Thats a selfish approach but I guess it is partially based on some truths.. However the right to vote is an American luxury that was fought for and isn't available in a lot of societies.
As for voting in this election, I'm going with Obama. Who else is there?
I appreciate the "right" to vote.. I just think it really doesnt matter.. the results will be the same whether I vote or not.. btw I am very politically uninformed since I dont get into politics at all.. I wouldnt even know where to begin. ???
In that case your better off to take some time and go scratch or punch every candidate and cancel out your vote so that your ballot is not used to get extra vote for one of the candidates.
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I appreciate the "right" to vote.. I just think it really doesnt matter.. the results will be the same whether I vote or not.. btw I am very politically uninformed since I dont get into politics at all.. I wouldnt even know where to begin. ???
No shit.
That's cool though. Unfortunately, way too many uninformed people go out, vote, and fuck shit up for everyone else. At least you choose not to. I can respect that.
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people should need to pass an IQ test before voting
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people should need to pass an IQ test before voting
preach.
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people should need to pass an IQ test before voting
Why that? Isn't democracy about everybody being equal, regardless of skin color, religion, income or physical and mental capacity?
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people should need to pass an IQ test before voting
Why that? Isn't democracy about everybody being equal, regardless of skin color, religion, income or physical and mental capacity?
LOL @ thinking the USA is a REAL democracy.
anyway, people who vote should be able to make decisions. if they dont understand the situations going on, how can they possibly make rational and sound decisions when it comes time to decide who theyre going to vote for? they cant, so they turn to ridiculous deciding factors, like religion; sex; WHO THEIR FAVORITE CELEBERTY ENDORSES etc. etc. how many people you think there are, that are going to vote for obama just cause hes black, or vote for mccain just cause he has a female on his ticket?? these are not "issues" (for a lack of a better word" that should make up someones mind.
i dont feel comfortable with people going out to vote on the fourth, who cant even name a SINGLE issue that their candidate is for/against. trust me, there are a lot of nimrods out there choose their candidate over the most frivolous things.
some people who are going to vote dont even know the branches of government!!! some dont even know how many states there are!!!!!!!!!
do YOU feel comfortable with people like THAT voting on OUR future? when they cant tell you the three fucking branches of government?
but it is, what it is. a required IQ test before voting will NEVER happen...but it SHOULD.
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if ur not sure but have a vote....Spoil It...its still using ur vote and showin the powers that be u give a fuck about the future of your country but not voting for them dicks lol....
if i was american id vote Obama tho
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people should need to pass an IQ test before voting
Why that? Isn't democracy about everybody being equal, regardless of skin color, religion, income or physical and mental capacity?
yep, but a line should be drawn when retards walk into the voting booth and don't know what the fuck they're doing and can't form an opinion on their own, needing a "popular opinion" to show them the way to vote
i'm all for everyone having the right to vote, however if you're just "voting for that guy" for shits & giggles, then you shouldn't be allowed to vote. if you have honest intentions of making your country better, then by all means vote
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3rd party
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people should need to pass an IQ test before voting
I agree 100%
I also think women shouldn't have the right to vote because the majority doesn't use their brains when they vote, but this will never happen anymore in civilized countries.
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people should need to pass an IQ test before voting
Why that? Isn't democracy about everybody being equal, regardless of skin color, religion, income or physical and mental capacity?
LOL @ thinking the USA is a REAL democracy.
anyway, people who vote should be able to make decisions. if they dont understand the situations going on, how can they possibly make rational and sound decisions when it comes time to decide who theyre going to vote for? they cant, so they turn to ridiculous deciding factors, like religion; sex; WHO THEIR FAVORITE CELEBERTY ENDORSES etc. etc. how many people you think there are, that are going to vote for obama just cause hes black, or vote for mccain just cause he has a female on his ticket?? these are not "issues" (for a lack of a better word" that should make up someones mind.
i dont feel comfortable with people going out to vote on the fourth, who cant even name a SINGLE issue that their candidate is for/against. trust me, there are a lot of nimrods out there choose their candidate over the most frivolous things.
some people who are going to vote dont even know the branches of government!!! some dont even know how many states there are!!!!!!!!!
do YOU feel comfortable with people like THAT voting on OUR future? when they cant tell you the three fucking branches of government?
but it is, what it is. a required IQ test before voting will NEVER happen...but it SHOULD.
Who are you to decide which factors should make up someone's mind? A democracy is about everybody having the right to vote. If you don't like that, try a dictatorship or an aristocracy where only few people who know what they are doing decide what's going on and see if that's any better. Have fun trying to get any welfare checks from that point on. Do you realize that all those social policies in politics basically only happen cause the votes of lazy and dumb people count just as much as the votes of the elite?
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Poor people don't vote, if they did we would have a liberal everytime time in office.
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Poor people don't vote, if they did we would have a liberal everytime time in office.
Well, that's their fault then. Nothing worse than people bitching about everything, yet can't spend a couple hours once in 4 years voting. Still, the middle class and lower middle class is the main factor and they are relatively poor. If you had a system like an aristocracy, the Main Street would be doomed. Since you're both hispanics, it's also interesting how most people who are running for president never really bash illegal immigration or immigrants, even though that might appeal to some voters. It's because of guys like you. If only the rich elite were to vote, some of your relatives wouldn't be able to chill out with you guys. I'm just saying, for every dumb person being able to vote you have the candidates who are trying to appeal to them. Through that you might get some policies brought through that you normally couldn't even dream of. "Dumb people who don't think like me shouldn't be allowed to vote at all" is easily said, but once that happens, the consequences might negatively surprise you.
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Poor people don't vote, if they did we would have a liberal everytime time in office.
Well, that's their fault then. Nothing worse than people bitching about everything, yet can't spend a couple hours once in 4 years voting. Still, the middle class and lower middle class is the main factor and they are relatively poor. If you had a system like an aristocracy, the Main Street would be doomed. Since you're both hispanics, it's also interesting how most people who are running for president never really bash illegal immigration or immigrants, even though that might appeal to some voters. It's because of guys like you. If only the rich elite were to vote, some of your relatives wouldn't be able to chill out with you guys. I'm just saying, for every dumb person being able to vote you have the candidates who are trying to appeal to them. Through that you might get some policies brought through that you normally couldn't even dream of. "Dumb people who don't think like me shouldn't be allowed to vote at all" is easily said, but once that happens, the consequences might negatively surprise you.
Poor people hardly bitch though. Most people that are bitching or complaining about are the ones that you say are relatively poor. Well who wouldn't bitch after what has happened in the past 8 years. That's why even though this country is center right, it's all of a sudden going to become center left(we'll see if it stays that way, I doubt it). That's politicians for you, they try to appeal to as many voters as possible. One of the reasons McCain doesn't bring up immigration, is because he's for immigration reform that would benefit illegal immigrants. His base would go ballistic if that's on his platform. Obama doesn't bring it up because he might lose the swing voters with that. That's politics, the game to get out to vote.