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Title: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Darksider on April 25, 2007, 03:46:19 AM
against tha grain EP sampler: http://www.zdfile.com/browse.php?brw=vifil&idfil=1223

since my og thread disappeared without any reason and people asked for more info about this release i decided to make a new one

oh and the publisher statet on  mr makaveli.net and another forum that suge knight owns the master tapes and kurupt got paid for the against the grain album which included those songs
and that all these songs were meant to be released
and that even  daz sold the negative dpg dvd after they squashed their beef
"This release is not to stir up controversy, this is simply to deliver the songs that the fans wanted on Against Tha Grain."  8)

(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5104/kuruptcoverjo4.gif)

Kurupt : The Real Against Tha Grain (Tha E.P.) No Edits. No Censorship. No Feelings!
1. Against Tha Grain
(feat. Eastwood, Y.A.)
2. U Dont Know Who U ****in' Wit
(feat. Kokane)
3. No Vaseline Part 2
4. One Thangs Fo Sho
5. One Thangs Fo Sho (Reprise)
(Danny Boy)
6. Holocause 3000 (Bonus Song)
(feat Eastwood, Gail Gotti)
7. Just U and Me (Bonus Song)
8. Outro

possible future releases

Petey "Same Eyez On Me" (has song w/ 2pac)
NINA (has song w/ 2pac)
Danny Boy 96' Album (has songs w/ 2pac)
OFTB Volume 2 (has songs w/ 2pac)
Tha Realest Death Row Dayz (2CD)
Crooked I Say Hi To The Bad Guy
Dr. Dre Tha Death Row Instrumentals (2CD
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: It's All About 18 on April 25, 2007, 03:55:17 AM

"This release is not to stir up controversy, this is simply to deliver the songs that the fans wanted on Against Tha Grain."  8)


True. That's all we want... some good muzic. I don't care about the DPG beef since they reunited
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: shaydee on April 25, 2007, 04:49:03 AM
Inmate = oneoone

thanx
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Darksider on April 25, 2007, 04:54:40 AM
Inmate = oneoone

thanx
not true....and please stop spreading this bs before someone believes it
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: 3331 on April 25, 2007, 05:06:13 AM
they don't give a fuck about the fans, they want money.

15 dollars for 8 tracks ::)... real bargain
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on April 25, 2007, 05:43:50 AM
I'll leave this thread open so everybody can read my message, as to why I removed the info to order this off the original message.

It's as simple as this. You guys are selling a Kurupt CD, that Kurupt does not want out there. He agree'd with the original Against The Grain that was released, but WITHOUT these tracks. Now these same tracks are being sold and are generating money.

I think obviously you will understand my point that I remove information about an artist's CD that that same artist does not want released.

I removed your original thread, but I'll let this one open so people can know WHY i removed the ordering information.

Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Iliveinthefuture on April 25, 2007, 05:47:49 AM
lmao at deathrow fans in 2007
how does it feel to be the last of a dying breed?  8)
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Darksider on April 25, 2007, 05:55:08 AM
I'll leave this thread open so everybody can read my message, as to why I removed the info to order this off the original message.

It's as simple as this. You guys are selling a Kurupt CD, that Kurupt does not want out there. He agree'd with the original Against The Grain that was released, but WITHOUT these tracks. Now these same tracks are being sold and are generating money.

I think obviously you will understand my point that I remove information about an artist's CD that that same artist does not want released.

I removed your original thread, but I'll let this one open so people can know WHY i removed the ordering information.


first im not involved in this release...and  2nd no i dont understand that ....jt released a game album, daz sold a kurupt album,  we are talking about bootlegs or albums with no direct involvement by the artist  here on tha forum every day
and all of a sudden its a problem? because its kurupt your little dpg homeboy???
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on April 25, 2007, 05:58:52 AM

first im not involved in this release...and  2nd no i dont understand that ....jt released a game album, daz sold a kurupt album,  we are talking about bootlegs or albums with no direct involvement by the artist every day here on tha forum
and all of a sudden its a problem? because its kurupt your little dpg homeboy???

I knew you would say that.

Let me explain, no it has nothing to do with Kurupt being my "little dpg homeboy".

When JT sold a Game album, (which I don't think we even advertised), Game never hollered at us to let us know he was against that record. If he did, we wouldn't have advertised it (which we didn't anyway).

Same thing goes with Daz releasing a Kurupt album. At the end of the day, the opinion of the actual recording artist who's CD is being released matters the most to me, so if that artist does not agree with a record coming out, I'm not going to advertise it, or let it be advertised on dubcnn.

You feel me?

Nothing to do with the specific person Kurupt, or Death Row, or am7 or whoeve, it's just by principle.
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: shaydee on April 25, 2007, 06:04:32 AM
Yo Nima u should tell Kurupt that his former webmaster (am7) and crooked i's webamster (nino brown) are the ones selling it.. oneoone is their company... let kurupt know homie!!!!
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on April 25, 2007, 06:06:39 AM
Yo Nima u should tell Kurupt that his former webmaster (am7) and crooked i's webamster (nino brown) are the ones selling it.. oneoone is their company... let kurupt know homie!!!!

Kurupt read everything that was said in the thread... What he's saying makes sense... I'm not getting any more involved in that than I already am...
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: shaydee on April 25, 2007, 06:12:40 AM
Suge is giving them albums to sell.... they gon sell Crooked I's Say Hi To The Bad Guy soon.... add tselley77 on AIM, he knows all about it... 2real from westside2real told him tha truth about it all...
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on April 25, 2007, 06:17:01 AM
Suge is giving them albums to sell.... they gon sell Crooked I's Say Hi To The Bad Guy soon.... add tselley77 on AIM, he knows all about it... 2real from westside2real told him tha truth about it all...

Wow, somebody is not gonna like you. lol.
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Killz/Kilo2 on April 25, 2007, 06:21:34 AM
Suge is giving them albums to sell.... they gon sell Crooked I's Say Hi To The Bad Guy soon.... add tselley77 on AIM, he knows all about it... 2real from westside2real told him tha truth about it all...

Complete b/s. Also Scott is not involved in this shit remove his name.
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Darksider on April 25, 2007, 06:22:27 AM

first im not involved in this release...and  2nd no i dont understand that ....jt released a game album, daz sold a kurupt album,  we are talking about bootlegs or albums with no direct involvement by the artist every day here on tha forum
and all of a sudden its a problem? because its kurupt your little dpg homeboy???

I knew you would say that.

Let me explain, no it has nothing to do with Kurupt being my "little dpg homeboy".

When JT sold a Game album, (which I don't think we even advertised), Game never hollered at us to let us know he was against that record. If he did, we wouldn't have advertised it (which we didn't anyway).

Same thing goes with Daz releasing a Kurupt album. At the end of the day, the opinion of the actual recording artist who's CD is being released matters the most to me, so if that artist does not agree with a record coming out, I'm not going to advertise it, or let it be advertised on dubcnn.

You feel me?

Nothing to do with the specific person Kurupt, or Death Row, or am7 or whoeve, it's just by principle.
hmm i dont know what to say...this is a forum for everyone ..since when decides a rapper whats been posted on a net forum...if there  is a new record out no matter who releases that shit i want to talk about it..
nobody forces you to start big time ads for it but ...removing posts about it is straight censoring
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Lord Funk on April 25, 2007, 06:22:46 AM
Nima, +1 for taking a stand on this as regards your principles, but it's more complicated than that as well.

In removing news/info/ordering details for this album(which, for the record, I have zero interest in) because Kurupt doesn't approve, you turn the site from an open forum into a PR outlet for whichever rapper you happen to talk to.

DubCNN and DubCC should be for the fans - if they can't trust these outlets to bring them honest, unbiased information about a release, then that's a shame.

Again, I don't want to criticise this decision - this is your site and, as I say, I have absolutely no interest in hearing this EP, so it doesn't really impact me either way. But to say the opinion of the recording artist is important enough to you to censor forum members makes it seem like this is their PR company rather than an open forum.

No offence at all man - keep doing it big.
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on April 25, 2007, 06:36:51 AM
I hear you, both of you (Inmate / Lord Funk). This kind of reminds me of when Warren G got pissed that dubcc people were bootlegging "In The Mid-Nite Hour" and that caused a big drama too. Like I said, if nothing was done about it and Kurupt never reached out, hey, no problem. But, by Kurupt personally reaching out to us, expressing his feelings about this record, I can see why he doesn't want people to get it.

Again, it's not about the person KURUPT. I feel that any artist that takes the time to come read our forums, and talk to dubcnn about it, and merely request that information about a bootleg record of songs that he never wanted to see out there, because they were from a different era that he doesn't represent anymore, it shouldn't be a problem to do him that favor. He's the recording artist of the songs after all.

It is what it is, I'll let this thread ride, I just removed ordering info from the original post, if anybody wants this bootleg THAT bad, they can find out how to get it for themselves...
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: shaydee on April 25, 2007, 06:48:52 AM
I speak that real shit.  Am7 and Nino do oneoone.org and forthepeopleent.com.  Just go to Danny Boy's www.dbsoul.com and it says DESIGNED BY OneOOne, Nino did that in 2002.  Then go to Spiderloc.com and it also says DESIGNED BY OneOOne, Am7 does that site.  They both did all of the Death Row official sites; Crooked I, Spider, Gail Gotti, SKG, Eastwood, Mark Morrison, Danny Boy, Michelle, and Death Row official sites.  They both did Hoodstars.net.  For 8 years they have let the public think they hate each other (remember the beef DRHQ.com aka Am7 VS. Playa P aka Nino?), that was all a FRONT and its still a front to fool everyone.

Tell Kurupt so these clowns can get sued.
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Killz/Kilo2 on April 25, 2007, 06:51:49 AM
I speak that real shit.  Am7 and Nino do oneoone.org and forthepeopleent.com.  Just go to Danny Boy's www.dbsoul.com and it says DESIGNED BY OneOOne, Nino did that in 2002.  Then go to Spiderloc.com and it also says DESIGNED BY OneOOne, Am7 does that site.  They both did all of the Death Row official sites; Crooked I, Spider, Gail Gotti, SKG, Eastwood, Mark Morrison, Danny Boy, Michelle, and Death Row official sites.  They both did Hoodstars.net.  For 8 years they have let the public think they hate each other (remember the beef DRHQ.com aka Am7 VS. Playa P aka Nino?), that was all a FRONT and its still a front to fool everyone.

Tell Kurupt so these clowns can get sued.

Give me your adress. I'mma settle this once & for all.
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Darksider on April 25, 2007, 07:22:09 AM
is it possible to leave this net beef bs about dante, nino, am7, playa p and all the other dudes out of this thread? shits boring
everybody can see  who is releasing these albums on mrmakaveli.net ...its not a fuckin secret
and hopefully all these albums will come out sooner or later...cant wait for crooked i or the second OFTB cd :)
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: XaNdEr on April 25, 2007, 08:09:16 AM

first im not involved in this release...and  2nd no i dont understand that ....jt released a game album, daz sold a kurupt album,  we are talking about bootlegs or albums with no direct involvement by the artist every day here on tha forum
and all of a sudden its a problem? because its kurupt your little dpg homeboy???

I knew you would say that.

Let me explain, no it has nothing to do with Kurupt being my "little dpg homeboy".

When JT sold a Game album, (which I don't think we even advertised), Game never hollered at us to let us know he was against that record. If he did, we wouldn't have advertised it (which we didn't anyway).

Same thing goes with Daz releasing a Kurupt album. At the end of the day, the opinion of the actual recording artist who's CD is being released matters the most to me, so if that artist does not agree with a record coming out, I'm not going to advertise it, or let it be advertised on dubcnn.

You feel me?

Nothing to do with the specific person Kurupt, or Death Row, or am7 or whoever, it's just by principle.

Look man, this thread is in NO way meant to sell. I got all respect for you Nima, and all the work you put in this site, but look man, we live in a free world. We should be allowed to discuss this album, and to post tracklists and/or covers. You can't just place restrictions on people like that. I know it is your forum (together with the other staff) but man, i am against the fact of you deleting threads.

I understand Kurupt don't want this to come out, but it is coming out anyways. And i don;t think nobody will buy any cd just cause they have read some info on a forum, which they can get on various other places as well. And besides that, nobody is gonna buy it anyways, cause nobody buys cd's, it's only getting bootlegged on internet probably anyways, and if the visitors of this forum will see a link with Kurupt - Against the Gran EP they will check it out anyways.

I don't mean to disrespect you, but i don't think deleting topics is the right thing to do. But i can see your point too, cause you need to run this site and have to deal with the rappers involved as well. It's all good to me, just my opinion. +1
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: d-nice on April 25, 2007, 08:29:38 AM
I can see what Nima is saying. But artists need to realize our comments are not most of the time a reflection of Dubcnn. Maybe a disclaimer needs to be put on the site or explained to artists interested in doing business with the site. But it sounds like Kurupt almost is taking a stance that this project is being supported and endorsed by the Dub so to avoid any problems it is just easier to delete it. Whether it is right or wrong, Nima don't want to burn any bridges with people. But I would like artists to take comments and opinions for face value. ATG EP is not going to chart on soundscan or have Rap City calling Kurupt about lyrics he had in the past. It's like finding a "new" Biggie diss by 2pac. 
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: maudizzle on April 25, 2007, 08:33:15 AM
Look man, this thread is in NO way meant to sell. I got all respect for you Nima, and all the work you put in this site, but look man, we live in a free world. We should be allowed to discuss this album, and to post tracklists and/or covers. You can't just place restrictions on people like that. I know it is your forum (together with the other staff) but man, i am against the fact of you deleting threads.

I agree. Kurupt took his chance to say something about it and even though I think these people rip you off (8 tracks for that price is rediculous), I don't think you should delete links to pages where people can purchase that album. It's already on sale and it's not like these tracks aren't going to leak out. They will be discussed anyway, whether Kurupt likes it or not.




I speak that real shit.  Am7 and Nino do oneoone.org and forthepeopleent.com.  Just go to Danny Boy's www.dbsoul.com and it says DESIGNED BY OneOOne, Nino did that in 2002.  Then go to Spiderloc.com and it also says DESIGNED BY OneOOne, Am7 does that site.  They both did all of the Death Row official sites; Crooked I, Spider, Gail Gotti, SKG, Eastwood, Mark Morrison, Danny Boy, Michelle, and Death Row official sites.  They both did Hoodstars.net.  For 8 years they have let the public think they hate each other (remember the beef DRHQ.com aka Am7 VS. Playa P aka Nino?), that was all a FRONT and its still a front to fool everyone.

Tell Kurupt so these clowns can get sued.

Hywyn, I don't know you, but I would like to know who told you that am7 did Hoodstars.net? I have never even spoken to am7 and I run that site, which by the way re-launches very soon without any help of am7. ::)
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: no1wammy on April 25, 2007, 08:56:26 AM
Quote from: Nima
I feel that any artist that takes the time to come read our forums, and talk to dubcnn about it, and merely request that information about a bootleg record of songs that he never wanted to see out there, because they were from a different era that he doesn't represent anymore, it shouldn't be a problem to do him that favor. He's the recording artist of the songs after all.

Agreed, since we have the whole Don Imus issue going about and the possibility of censorship on the way.
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Lunatic on April 25, 2007, 08:56:55 AM
I will d.l this simply for the fact that it's some kurupt music. I wouldn't buy it.

Can't wait for that crooked album
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: JMan on April 25, 2007, 10:18:24 AM
god dayum theirs a lot of wieners in this thread.. just accept whats Nima's saying!! im sure if every poster in here was in kurupts position and had bootleg of his material being releashed without his consent you'd request for the info to be censored & removed.. end of day kurupts just a person like you or me and is entilted to his opinion n privacy.. If people dont like it then create your own fuckin dub then  ;D..

keep the work up nima  8)
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on April 25, 2007, 10:40:47 AM
Bullshit Thread
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: The "Untouchable" DJR on April 25, 2007, 04:49:38 PM
I speak that real shit.  Am7 and Nino do oneoone.org and forthepeopleent.com.  Just go to Danny Boy's www.dbsoul.com and it says DESIGNED BY OneOOne, Nino did that in 2002.  Then go to Spiderloc.com and it also says DESIGNED BY OneOOne, Am7 does that site.  They both did all of the Death Row official sites; Crooked I, Spider, Gail Gotti, SKG, Eastwood, Mark Morrison, Danny Boy, Michelle, and Death Row official sites.  They both did Hoodstars.net.  For 8 years they have let the public think they hate each other (remember the beef DRHQ.com aka Am7 VS. Playa P aka Nino?), that was all a FRONT and its still a front to fool everyone.

Tell Kurupt so these clowns can get sued.

^^Why do you keep bringing this up, does it make you feel good naming these persons and telling who does what? Just let them be and enjoy the music.

is it possible to leave this net beef bs about dante, nino, am7, playa p and all the other dudes out of this thread? shits boring
everybody can see  who is releasing these albums on mrmakaveli.net ...its not a fuckin secret
and hopefully all these albums will come out sooner or later...

Amen.
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Lunatic on April 25, 2007, 04:50:38 PM
has this leaked yet?
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Killz/Kilo2 on April 25, 2007, 04:52:52 PM
Bullshit Thread
Amen.
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Darksider on April 25, 2007, 07:30:21 PM
god dayum theirs a lot of wieners in this thread.. just accept whats Nima's saying!! im sure if every poster in here was in kurupts position and had bootleg of his material being releashed without his consent you'd request for the info to be censored & removed.. end of day kurupts just a person like you or me and is entilted to his opinion n privacy.. If people dont like it then create your own fuckin dub then  ;D..

keep the work up nima  8)
this is a hiphop messageboard..not a we do what kurupt wants board
its totally unimportant what kurupt thinks about an album
if deathrow releases a greatest hits album or ruthless a bone thugs best of or whatever i want talk about it here no matter what these artists think about this release ..and.everybody besides you and sensitive die hard groupies wants the same
label situations are the problems of the artists  not ours
and if nima cant run a hiphop forum known for free speech and promotion without getting involved in dpgs problems then he  is the wrong person to do it
shit im getting angry right now......nima can you please include the links back in my original post???
ftp ent is a company like every other selling music...everything else is up to the artist and not to you NIMA
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: acgrundy on April 25, 2007, 08:10:24 PM
I gotta agree w/ Inmate.  If you are going to be in the music industry of reporting news and doing interviews, you have got to do it w/o bias and without taking favorites.

The job of Dubcnn is to report news in the hip hop world.  This Kurupt EP is news.  This forum is made to discuss these things.  The job of Dubcnn is not to help artists cover up what they may think of as mistakes.  If kurupt wants to do something about this, then he and his attourney should do something, he should not bring dubcnn into it.  Thats fine if kurupt wants to send a message to the fans asking them not to support it, its up to the fans to decide whether or not they want to buy it.

The OFTB album was put out by the same website, and the links were never removed.  If Dubcnn is not advertising this Kurupt EP, then I see nothing wrong going on.  An individual unaffiliated w/ Dubcnn posted the news in this forum, and that is not against any law.  Kurupt might not like it, but thats how it is.  Personally I would hope that Dubcnn would not cater to certain artists like this.  News is news.  Nothing was done when the OFTB album was advertised on here, same w/ the Petey Pablo, Realest, and whichever other ones were advertised.  If Kurupt asked Dubcnn not to advertise for it, and Dubcnn doesn't advertise, and writes no news story about, thats fine.  But I don't think anyone on this forum should be stopped from talking about it, or advertising about it.  Everyone on this forum has their freedom of choice to either support the album, or not support the album.
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Low Key on April 25, 2007, 08:33:06 PM
I hear you, both of you (Inmate / Lord Funk). This kind of reminds me of when Warren G got pissed that dubcc people were bootlegging "In The Mid-Nite Hour" and that caused a big drama too. Like I said, if nothing was done about it and Kurupt never reached out, hey, no problem. But, by Kurupt personally reaching out to us, expressing his feelings about this record, I can see why he doesn't want people to get it.

As I recall, the reason there was tons of drama with In The Mid-Night Hour was because Warren was threatening legal action. It was a bitch move on Warren's part, but it's understandable why the Dub stopped the bootlegging. Kurupt has the opportunity to block the release by getting his attorney involved too, and it's not our (the forum members) problem or yours (the Dub as a whole) if he doesn't want the album released. All we want to do is discuss the album and there is definately nothing wrong with that, which is why I suspect you didn't delete this thread. I wasn't even gonna buy it anyways just like 99% of the forum.
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Big_Ed on April 25, 2007, 08:38:14 PM


The job of Dubcnn is to report news in the hip hop world.  This Kurupt EP is news.  This forum is made to discuss these things.  The job of Dubcnn is not to help artists cover up what they may think of as mistakes.  If kurupt wants to do something about this, then he and his attourney should do something, he should not bring dubcnn into it.  Thats fine if kurupt wants to send a message to the fans asking them not to support it, its up to the fans to decide whether or not they want to buy it.
dubcnn would be nothing without the support from the artists,in my opinion its ok to show gratitude,considering the artists when they think
that promote a certain product can hurt their career or relationship with other artists.
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Darksider on April 25, 2007, 08:44:31 PM
for the moment

against tha grain EP sampler: http://www.zdfile.com/browse.php?brw=vifil&idfil=1223
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: acgrundy on April 25, 2007, 08:47:34 PM


The job of Dubcnn is to report news in the hip hop world.  This Kurupt EP is news.  This forum is made to discuss these things.  The job of Dubcnn is not to help artists cover up what they may think of as mistakes.  If kurupt wants to do something about this, then he and his attourney should do something, he should not bring dubcnn into it.  Thats fine if kurupt wants to send a message to the fans asking them not to support it, its up to the fans to decide whether or not they want to buy it.
dubcnn would be nothing without the support from the artists,in my opinion its ok to show gratitude,considering the artists when they think
that promote a certain product can hurt their career or relationship with other artists.

don't get it twisted dog, these rap artists need dubcnn a helluva lot more than dubcnn needs them.  over half the shit reported on that site I would never hear of at all if it weren't for dubcnn.  Those interviews promote the artists and sell albums.  Dubcnn is a media outlet, and should report unbiased news, and not pick favorites.  Like I said, they are not advertising the album, so dubcnn is not doing anything against kurupt.  I didn't buy the latest dpg album, but only because I don't buy any albums anymore, however had I not browsed this forum and dubcnn, I would have no idea that dpg was even putting out albums anymore.
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Lunatic on April 25, 2007, 08:47:56 PM
Damn. If you ask me, Nima is in a tough corner man.

I gotta agree with what Inmate & acgrundy have posted, i must admit

but at the same time, i see were nima is coming from. Of many good relationships Nima & Co. have built over the years with artists, there association if you may, with DPG (snoop especially) is probably the strongest, and Nima doesn't want to ruin that. We know Snoop is obvisouly going to back Kurupt on this 1, and He (along with the rest of the DPG camp) may catch feelings at Nima, and stop fucking with us altogether.

Or maybe Kurupt/DPG will realise that Inmate & acgrundy have a valid point, get there attorneys involed, and just let this whole situation (the dubcc part at least) be forgotten ;)
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Wild_Elmo on April 25, 2007, 09:58:58 PM
Man Fuck Kurupt after that. First he said if you don't like what were doing, don't buy the album. I agree with that and I havent bought the new album(s). But then he goes and says "Real Dogg Pound Fans like whatever we put out." Like we will blindly accept whatever the fuck they release just cuz it got the Dogg Pound stamp on it. He doesn't realize that people are just curious to hear this. It's not that they are supporting negativity and want to see the beef start up again. Whatever though, Dogg Pound been wack since 2001.
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: 3331 on April 25, 2007, 10:15:33 PM
Damn. If you ask me, Nima is in a tough corner man.

I gotta agree with what Inmate & acgrundy have posted, i must admit

but at the same time, i see were nima is coming from. Of many good relationships Nima & Co. have built over the years with artists, there association if you may, with DPG (snoop especially) is probably the strongest, and Nima doesn't want to ruin that. We know Snoop is obvisouly going to back Kurupt on this 1, and He (along with the rest of the DPG camp) may catch feelings at Nima, and stop fucking with us altogether.

Or maybe Kurupt/DPG will realise that Inmate & acgrundy have a valid point, get there attorneys involed, and just let this whole situation (the dubcc part at least) be forgotten ;)
i think kurupt's taking advantage of nima asking that and is putting him in a tough situation. who wants relationships like that though, good rapper or not?
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: XaNdEr on April 25, 2007, 11:17:29 PM
Look, it's just basically 3 sides:

First you got Kurupt, who spoke on what he read on this side and was quite angry and upset about people talking about this new EP where he disses Daz, Snoop etc. I can understand he don't want this to come out, but he should have realized that when he made those song, to me Kurupt seems to just do things without thinking, even with that interview, he accuses people as "fake fans" and "having muthafucking fake ass opinions". That is not respecting the fans who always supported him and Daz.

Then you got the peeps on DubCC who are discussing this new EP, cause we always are in for some new Kurupt, which has no way to do with the "negativity" Kurupt spoke on in the interview. We just want some new Kurupt, i won't buy Against The Grain EP, but i will download it when it's dropping. But besides that i am also lookin' out as much for that Kurupt & J Wells album. It is not about negativity, it's about new material of the rappers we like and we support.

And last we have Nima, and the rest of the DubCC staff. They have to please our wishes and the wishes of the rappers (to a certain extent) because they don't wanna burn any bridges and stuff.

I understand Nima's position, and i respect his opinion on it, but at the same time i want a forum where we can say anything we want on, without the rappers start complaining about what we say. It is like our posts are checked constantly, and if a "important" person doesn't like it the posts will be deleted, that is not my vision of this forum. Imo, we should be able to talk about what we want, we are NOT dubcnn affiliated in any way, we're just Westcoast fans lookin' for some new music, that's all. So imo, Kurupt has to understand we do support him, through good and bad times, and that he shouldn't just force restrictions on this forum.
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Tanjential on April 25, 2007, 11:27:25 PM
nima ain't saying we can't get the songs, we have a HU spot if the songs become available.

but Kurupt, Nima and myself and probably some others have a bottom line

THESE CATS SHOULD NOT BE MAKING MONEY OFF THIS RECORD.

-T
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: overseadog on April 25, 2007, 11:36:33 PM
AND SINCE IT'S A KURUPT RECORD WHY THE FUCK  U  SELL HIS SHIT SINCE HE DOESN'T WANT, THIS MEANS KURUPT HAS NO CONTROL OF HIS OWN SHIT AND THAT'S WHERE IT SUCKS......
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: D1G1T4L on April 25, 2007, 11:48:56 PM
freedom of speech
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: The Watcher on April 26, 2007, 12:31:15 AM
tell Kurupt he hasn't got anything to worry about, the majority of people on this site bootleg/download shit anyway, so nobody will be buyin that album

it'll be lucky to go double plastic
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: J$crILLa on April 26, 2007, 01:25:21 AM
nima has spoke...and i agree
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on April 26, 2007, 02:53:57 AM
Admitted, I deleted the first topic about Against The Grain, I appologize for that, which is why I let this one ride. Everyone can talk about it. All I did was, by request of Kurupt, remove the order information off the original post. Anybody that wants to buy it can find it anyway. Yeah it's a tough position, so I opted for the middle, letting this thread ride, just removing the order information...

On a side note, it's amazing to see you talking so much Inmate! You used to be the poster who always quoted somebody else or who just said "cool" and "nice". This shit really got you talking ;D
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Bones01 on April 26, 2007, 02:55:28 AM
tell Kurupt he hasn't got anything to worry about, the majority of people on this site bootleg/download shit anyway, so nobody will be buyin that album

it'll be lucky to go double plastic
lmao, sad but true
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Darksider on April 26, 2007, 03:09:15 AM
aight.. but why did you delete the audio in the first post?? there are people who dont read every reply
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Rud on April 26, 2007, 03:16:31 AM
aight.. but why did you delete the audio in the first post?? there are people who dont read every reply

I deleted it, as i deleted your original thread.
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Darksider on April 26, 2007, 03:24:55 AM
aight.. but why did you delete the audio in the first post?? there are people who dont read every reply

I deleted it, as i deleted your original thread.
yeah thats great..its back there..could you please stop deleting things from my posts??
maybe you dont understand it but the music is an importing part of a cd
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Rud on April 26, 2007, 03:26:16 AM
aight.. but why did you delete the audio in the first post?? there are people who dont read every reply

I deleted it, as i deleted your original thread.
yeah thats great..its back there..could you please stop deleting things from my posts??
maybe you dont understand it but the music is an importing part of a cd

As an Admin of this board, i will delete things as i and as any moderators see fit, not if it is deemed suitable by a forum member.
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Darksider on April 26, 2007, 03:44:19 AM
aight.. but why did you delete the audio in the first post?? there are people who dont read every reply

I deleted it, as i deleted your original thread.
yeah thats great..its back there..could you please stop deleting things from my posts??
maybe you dont understand it but the music is an importing part of a cd


As an Admin of this board, i will delete things as i and as any moderators see fit, not if it is deemed suitable by a forum member.

well looks like i have to double check all my future posts to see if all the important information are still where people can easily see them ....esspecially posts about our favourite doggfather and his crew
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Darksider on April 26, 2007, 03:49:32 AM
Admitted, I deleted the first topic about Against The Grain, I appologize for that, which is why I let this one ride. Everyone can talk about it. All I did was, by request of Kurupt, remove the order information off the original post. Anybody that wants to buy it can find it anyway. Yeah it's a tough position, so I opted for the middle, letting this thread ride, just removing the order information...

On a side note, it's amazing to see you talking so much Inmate! You used to be the poster who always quoted somebody else or who just said "cool" and "nice". This shit really got you talking ;D
....i just needed some motivation..lol..nah seriously....my english is not the best.i understand everything..speaking is ok..but writing essays..HORRIBLE....i lived some time in l.a. but im originally  from germany and back there at the  moment
and i dont want to know how many mistakes i made by writing all this..lol
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: shaydee on April 26, 2007, 04:54:04 AM
Inmate = Am7........... one of the faggots selling the Kurupt CD.

Stop trying to promote it! Kurupt doesnt want it to be heard, it may effect his relationship with Snoop.
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: xover on April 26, 2007, 05:17:39 AM
Inmate = Am7........... one of the faggots selling the Kurupt CD.

Stop trying to promote it! Kurupt doesnt want it to be heard, it may effect his relationship with Snoop.
why snop knows about the songs...........
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Big_Ed on April 26, 2007, 06:39:53 AM
Inmate = Am7........... one of the faggots selling the Kurupt CD.

Stop trying to promote it! Kurupt doesnt want it to be heard, it may effect his relationship with Snoop.
why snop knows about the songs...........
its not the same know about a song than hear it.
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: JMan on April 26, 2007, 09:57:06 AM
Inmate = Am7........... one of the faggots selling the Kurupt CD.

Stop trying to promote it! Kurupt doesnt want it to be heard, it may effect his relationship with Snoop.

 :sleep: dude your like a broken record, quit with all this bs.. no conspiracy going down here.
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: $Eg2$ on April 26, 2007, 01:39:12 PM
Inmate = Am7........... one of the faggots selling the Kurupt CD.

Stop trying to promote it! Kurupt doesnt want it to be heard, it may effect his relationship with Snoop.

Take Kurupts Dick outta your mouth homie you lookin like a fuckin girl fo real Props to Inmate speakin the real Im down with Dubcc all the way but sometimes I think DUBCC is realy DPGCC.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on April 26, 2007, 03:07:42 PM
I gotta agree w/ Inmate.  If you are going to be in the music industry of reporting news and doing interviews, you have got to do it w/o bias and without taking favorites.

The job of Dubcnn is to report news in the hip hop world.  This Kurupt EP is news.  This forum is made to discuss these things.  The job of Dubcnn is not to help artists cover up what they may think of as mistakes.  If kurupt wants to do something about this, then he and his attourney should do something, he should not bring dubcnn into it.  Thats fine if kurupt wants to send a message to the fans asking them not to support it, its up to the fans to decide whether or not they want to buy it.

The OFTB album was put out by the same website, and the links were never removed.  If Dubcnn is not advertising this Kurupt EP, then I see nothing wrong going on.  An individual unaffiliated w/ Dubcnn posted the news in this forum, and that is not against any law.  Kurupt might not like it, but thats how it is.  Personally I would hope that Dubcnn would not cater to certain artists like this.  News is news.  Nothing was done when the OFTB album was advertised on here, same w/ the Petey Pablo, Realest, and whichever other ones were advertised.  If Kurupt asked Dubcnn not to advertise for it, and Dubcnn doesn't advertise, and writes no news story about, thats fine.  But I don't think anyone on this forum should be stopped from talking about it, or advertising about it.  Everyone on this forum has their freedom of choice to either support the album, or not support the album.

in the case of OFTB they wanted the album released they even had an interview on allhiphop.com telling people to go buy it.
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Quadruple OG on April 26, 2007, 06:51:17 PM
This board in general has a LONG history of being pro-DPG and having a heavy bias towards anything DPG related, even before dubcnn was created.  It's nothing new, I don't know why peeps are upset about the hypocrisy, it's virtually engrained in this forum
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: ~Lucien~ on April 26, 2007, 07:12:20 PM
the funny thing is... all these threads are great promotion for that piece of shit EP
the people who will release this are laughing right now... is that what we want?
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Tanjential on April 26, 2007, 07:15:32 PM
I'm down with this board being pro-DPG just look at the color scheme LOL

furthermore, this board started in the dre forums which were very pro-dpgc as well and this board always was too.

FURTHERMORE, this is not an american city hall, it is a website owned by a few cats who are gracious enough to attempt to give us as much freedom as possible without undermining their own affairs/objectives, if you had a website, would you want someone fucking up your relations/agendas over some amendment that doesn't even apply to you? (nima's in europe somewhere, right? iranian living in germany right?)

-T
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Quadruple OG on April 27, 2007, 05:09:16 PM
I'll give the forum credit, since they are now working with a variety of artists, the bias had to be toned down a lot to keep a good business relationship with some of the artists
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: papa-smurf on April 27, 2007, 10:29:47 PM
Man just release the crooked i say hi to the bad guy album,Since crooked i not a bitch,he not gonna bitch about it getting released,he even said he dont care if suge release all the shit he recorded over there,crooked a real nigga man,a stand up nigga,he the only west rapper thats repersenting the west the right way,thats why he be all over LA with no body guards and get love,he could go in the hoods and get love,cant bobody from the dogg pound go 2 any hood or anywhere in LA,kurupt cant even go 2 his on hood,u never see them niggas in LA or anywhere,and crooked  the only westcoast artist stood up and dissed dmx 2,so to tell u the truth,Fuck kurupt and all the westcoast rappers that dont stand up and give they opion on DMX slick talk about the west,suga free the only westcoast rapper that dont need 2 speak up on DMX interview, im a continue 2 support suga free,He a pimp rapper oh and ice cube a westcoast og,he dont need 2 say shit,But Fuck everybody else,Kurupt,

I was down with the dog pound and supporting them,even tho i knew yall always been fake,But fuck kurupt and the dogg pound,i a send u a picture of me,I dont give a fuck if u know what i look like,
U a bitch,u aint gonna do shit,fucc yall studio gangstas,spider loc said kurupt be gettin his ass whooped by gail gotti and all kurupt bitch ass said was that is his opion,kuupt talking about u dont want me 2 turn back into teh old me,nigga please,u aint never did shit,u never gang banged,or even did shit,Tray d the only real gangsta thats from the dogg pound,or was from the dogg pound,
and snoop snitched on him,fuck yall scary ass niggas,
we seen daz punk ass get scared of hot dollar
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: xover on April 28, 2007, 12:05:48 PM
the funny thing is... all these threads are great promotion for that piece of shit EP
the people who will release this are laughing right now... is that what we want?
lol kurupt must be getting his little cut.he gave the ep biggggg promo doin his interview  ;)
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: Al Bundy on April 28, 2007, 12:07:01 PM
the funny thing is... all these threads are great promotion for that piece of shit EP
the people who will release this are laughing right now... is that what we want?
lol kurupt must be getting his little cut.he gave the ep biggggg promo doin his interview  ;)

he isn't getting shit. it's a bootleg
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: XaNdEr on April 29, 2007, 01:33:49 AM
the funny thing is... all these threads are great promotion for that piece of shit EP
the people who will release this are laughing right now... is that what we want?
lol kurupt must be getting his little cut.he gave the ep biggggg promo doin his interview  ;)

Oh yeah, i forgot, now at least 20 people will buy it.  ::)
Title: Re: Kurupt: The Real Against Tha Grain (E.P.) Info and a lil statement
Post by: xover on April 29, 2007, 01:11:16 PM
the funny thing is... all these threads are great promotion for that piece of shit EP
the people who will release this are laughing right now... is that what we want?
lol kurupt must be getting his little cut.he gave the ep biggggg promo doin his interview  ;)

Oh yeah, i forgot, now at least 20 people will buy it.  ::)
thats double the people that wanted it before he started getting excited. ::)