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Title: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: Joseph Bonanno on January 13, 2008, 08:53:50 PM
Who is it? Charlie Hustle or Nas' weed/book carrier?
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Post by: herpes on January 13, 2008, 08:57:36 PM
A.Z. its not even close.... Nas weed/book carrier..... fuck outta here. 
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Post by: Joseph Bonanno on January 13, 2008, 09:05:59 PM
What. he carries weed AND books. don't hate.
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Post by: Sikotic™ on January 13, 2008, 09:15:24 PM
I'll go with E-40 on this one.
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Post by: Sickaluffa on January 13, 2008, 09:26:06 PM
I'll go with E-40 on this one.
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Post by: jeromechickenbone on January 13, 2008, 10:08:51 PM
I'll have to go w/ AZ, but 40 is sick as fuck too.

Think about how unique 40 is - he's almost impossible to rap along to, his flow is just crazy but it works.  And then how can you talk about him without mentioning his slang?  The guy is bitten more than the average cat knows.  Really original dude.  I guess my only knock is his later work is sometimes hard to digest for an entire album.  Hyphy in particular.

I still pick AZ though, because he is a straight MC.  His flow is always air tight on beat, and he's completely insane with the multi's.  "Rather Unique" is completely mindblowing lyrically, his opening verse on "Life's a Bitch" is arguably one of the greatest ever and he is still making great albums today.

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Post by: funkkid on January 13, 2008, 10:10:57 PM
az
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Post by: Dodgers#1 on January 13, 2008, 10:14:18 PM
I'll go with E-40 on this one.
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Post by: MontrealCity's Most on January 13, 2008, 10:15:29 PM
I find you cant even compare its 2 style that are so opposite.

I voted Az just because he has sick rhymes but e-40 has such a fucked up flow its so cool.

Altho one could agree e-4o i think dropped more albums and probably even sold more records then Az.
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Post by: eazye on January 13, 2008, 11:05:42 PM
Voting for AZ cause he's a really great MC, and the only thing I like about 40 is the production on his first albums
Title: Re: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: Tay on January 13, 2008, 11:09:45 PM
I find you cant even compare its 2 style that are so opposite.
Pretty much, I'm a fan of both artists, but their styles are waayyyy different. I have a lot more of 40's albums and think he has had a better career, but AZ is dope, so it depends on what mood I'm in.
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Post by: K.Dub on January 14, 2008, 12:15:08 AM
It's a tie
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Post by: Philip1123 on January 14, 2008, 12:31:34 AM
I'll go with E-40 on this one.
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Post by: WestCoasta on January 14, 2008, 12:45:18 AM
E-40

and no not because he's from California, he's one of the best rappers ever
Title: Re: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: Joseph Bonanno on January 14, 2008, 01:08:38 AM
I find you cant even compare its 2 style that are so opposite.


i know i just did it for the sake of the thread in wcc about their beef. just a general consensus, from a music standpoint.
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Post by: The Black Bossalini on January 14, 2008, 01:26:55 AM
i would say e40 but i lik az
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Post by: Kill on January 14, 2008, 01:30:53 AM
ah, they got beef. didn't know that cause I've kinda lost interest in such topics, so I was confused why you would compare these two.

They are pretty different. I like E-40, but I'm more of a New York guy these days when it comes to hiphop. Plus, as pointed out before, his Illmatic verse just fucks up anything else E-40 or himself have done, at least as far as I can tell. So it's AZ for me, but close call
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Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on January 14, 2008, 07:33:21 AM
A.Z. its not even close
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Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on January 14, 2008, 09:29:04 AM
E-40
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Post by: Tommy Illnigga on January 14, 2008, 09:30:58 AM
A.Z. its not even close
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Post by: Dogg Ly Dogg on January 14, 2008, 11:53:57 AM
2 Different rappers, 2 different styles, I cant chose one cuz they def both vet
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Post by: Elevz on January 14, 2008, 11:58:06 AM
A.Z. its not even close
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Post by: Dubz on January 14, 2008, 12:37:54 PM
AZ Sosa
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Post by: SmokinDro520 on January 14, 2008, 03:05:22 PM
40-Water
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Post by: Chamillitary Click on January 14, 2008, 07:04:13 PM
AZ takes this one.
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Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on January 14, 2008, 08:17:10 PM
AZ clearly.
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Post by: Al Bundy on January 14, 2008, 08:18:52 PM
both are dope in their own way.
Title: Re: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on January 14, 2008, 08:27:51 PM
E-40 is a certified LEGEND in Hip-Hop, period. And he's way more of an MC than AZ. Y'all some squares, straight up.
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Post by: jeromechickenbone on January 14, 2008, 08:39:30 PM
E-40 is a certified LEGEND in Hip-Hop, period. And he's way more of an MC than AZ. Y'all some squares, straight up.

Why is he way more of an MC than AZ?
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Post by: Tay on January 14, 2008, 09:09:41 PM
Actually, I said earlier that I couldn't choose. 40 has just done so much more in the game that I have to choose him over Nas' book carrier, although AZ is dope haha. Truth is that you can't go wrong with either one, that "beef" was a long time ago and it doesn't really concern me.
Title: Re: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: herpes on January 14, 2008, 09:31:49 PM
what is with this Nas's book carrier stuff.  They haven't worked together in 4 years.  AZ is putting out better music then Nas now.
Title: Re: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: herpes on January 14, 2008, 09:32:52 PM
E-40 is a certified LEGEND in Hip-Hop, period. And he's way more of an MC than AZ. Y'all some squares, straight up.

AZ is better then E40... thats why.  All that X you do is starting to fuck with your mind.
Title: Re: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on January 14, 2008, 11:33:44 PM
^ you're a fuckin idiot blood.. your little comments here and there is on some sucka shit.. what the fuck is your screen name about? you always been a hater.. fuck you and your east coast lil attitude.. all you muthafucaz is on cali dick anyway.. always will be.. can I get a witness or what? The old new york been over ever since 80's hit, you imitate our lifestyle, point blank, period.. y'all just speak different..

Now back to the topic.. what the fuck has AZ done ever since his verse on "Life's A Bitch" ?? his songs are trash, he is just a version of Nas gone wrong. He can spit, but can he make a song? Fuck no! The only reason KOCH fucks wit him is because of the little weight he holds from Illmatic.. 40 on the other hand is a game spitter, soak his songs in, he is spittin such slick shit that it will go over your head if you just a simple muthafuca.. MCs like AZ just be spittin, half of the time, it doesn't contain no real point to it, they just puttin them words together by flow.. 40 on the other hand delievers them messages that you wouldn't even get if you ain't really from an urban area.. suckas like Tommy live in those areas, but they ain't from there.. huge difference.

40 been doin it since 87, he's 40 years old and still very much relevant, just come to the bay and speak down on 40, see how cats will be at your neck like you just dissed their father.. cats really hold this dude up super high.. he has a whole region behind him.. even his enemies admit he's king.. how do I know? I'm amongst Mac Dre's folks that opposed him.. trust me.. shit's deeper in the bay.. huge movement behind the man.. when he goes platinum, it ain't the same fans that's buyin 50 cent or Ja Rule shit, it's majority solid muthafucaz.. go to a 40 show and tell me it wasn't one of the best experiences of your life.. he's in Vegas all the time.. hit it up.. it goes down like a prom dress.. can't say the same about AZ.. who is he again? shit who knows.. all I know is 40 will destroy AZ in a battle.. I got 10 Gz on it.. say I don't !!


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Post by: AnybodyKilla on January 14, 2008, 11:45:45 PM
I'll go with E-40 on this one.
Title: Re: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on January 15, 2008, 12:25:04 AM
man I don't got too many problems with NY.. this cat just brung it outta me.. he ain't from the real queens anyway.. he just a loner trash white boy who happens to live there and idiolizes racist muthafucaz like John Gotti.. the same man who hated on blacks all his life but at the end of the day had to pay off even his own race in prison.. c'mon now.. we call those people suckaz in our jails.. no vaseline !!

HERE'S SUM SHIT IN YO FACE TOMMY BOY !!



YAY AREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
http://www.mediafire.com/?14s1yyqdej3

40's presence on a track is compared to AZ? what's the world comin to? why dont we compare pac to lil cease next..


THEY MIGHT BE TAPING
http://www.mediafire.com/?efye2jbxym1
Title: Re: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: WestCoasta on January 15, 2008, 12:47:09 AM
well ROD I don't think you're gonna change opinions

the best way to put it if you think E-40 is better is this:   AZ is one dimensional compared to E-40

that's all I can think of to really really make a valid point

you can get very very bored with AZ...... you can get tired of E-40 but never bored
Title: Re: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: Bulldog - Your Not Gafflin Nobody on January 15, 2008, 03:08:51 AM
e-40 all day every day over AZ.

cant believe the vote is even. E-40 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AZ
Title: Re: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: Philip1123 on January 15, 2008, 09:04:38 AM
40 for sure!!!! He's one of the pioneers from the Bay, one of the first to go independent and blow up, plus he's one of the biggest names from the West.

AZ is just another rapper from NY, and although he's got skills, the truth is that there's nothing special about this guy.
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Post by: Tha Psycho Hustla on January 15, 2008, 09:24:24 AM
me, eventho im west coast fan 2 tha bone..i vote for AZ.
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Post by: Shango on January 15, 2008, 09:51:58 AM
I'll go with E-40 on this one.
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Post by: AnybodyKilla on January 15, 2008, 01:17:26 PM
I dont get how this is tied LOL!!!
Title: Re: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: Fuck Your Existence on January 15, 2008, 01:33:11 PM
40 qll day....One of the most original mc's to ever do it...people have been swagger jackin homie for years...at the end of the day 40=legend....az=who?
Title: Re: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: herpes on January 15, 2008, 04:57:50 PM
^ you're a fuckin idiot blood.. your little comments here and there is on some sucka shit.. what the fuck is your screen name about? you always been a hater.. fuck you and your east coast lil attitude.. all you muthafucaz is on cali dick anyway.. always will be.. can I get a witness or what? The old new york been over ever since 80's hit, you imitate our lifestyle, point blank, period.. y'all just speak different..

Now back to the topic.. what the fuck has AZ done ever since his verse on "Life's A Bitch" ?? his songs are trash, he is just a version of Nas gone wrong. He can spit, but can he make a song? Fuck no! The only reason KOCH fucks wit him is because of the little weight he holds from Illmatic.. 40 on the other hand is a game spitter, soak his songs in, he is spittin such slick shit that it will go over your head if you just a simple muthafuca.. MCs like AZ just be spittin, half of the time, it doesn't contain no real point to it, they just puttin them words together by flow.. 40 on the other hand delievers them messages that you wouldn't even get if you ain't really from an urban area.. suckas like Tommy live in those areas, but they ain't from there.. huge difference.

40 been doin it since 87, he's 40 years old and still very much relevant, just come to the bay and speak down on 40, see how cats will be at your neck like you just dissed their father.. cats really hold this dude up super high.. he has a whole region behind him.. even his enemies admit he's king.. how do I know? I'm amongst Mac Dre's folks that opposed him.. trust me.. shit's deeper in the bay.. huge movement behind the man.. when he goes platinum, it ain't the same fans that's buyin 50 cent or Ja Rule shit, it's majority solid muthafucaz.. go to a 40 show and tell me it wasn't one of the best experiences of your life.. he's in Vegas all the time.. hit it up.. it goes down like a prom dress.. can't say the same about AZ.. who is he again? shit who knows.. all I know is 40 will destroy AZ in a battle.. I got 10 Gz on it.. say I don't !!




LMFAO... whats has AZ done since his verse on Lifes a Bitch....  Doe or Die is a classic.  Pieces of a of man, AWOL, the Format, his work on the firm album.  All dope shit.  And you say people who don't like 40 just dont understand what he is saying.  That is laughable b/c if you think AZ is just spitting words to flow then it's obvious you aint shit either b/c that going over your head if you really believe that.  If you dont understand what AZ is spitting you either aint "soakin" it in or you're just a dumb motherfucka which is probably the case with you.  Yup b/c getting thizzed isn't something suburban white kids have been for years.  The differences is they are just popping X and acting like jack offs but don't have a name for it.  Wow thats really hood.  And good for E-40 that he has gone plat.  Nelly has gone almost diamond I guess that means he is better then most of the rap game ?  So sales is more important then good music.  It's solid muthafuckaz... yea when MTV was trying to push the hyphy movement I guess MTV were some solid muthafuckaz ?  How did that Hyphy / Bay area movement work out anyways ?  The East Coast sound had its strong run, The West Coast G-Funk run had its strong run, The south is still having a strong run.  Hyphy lasted about a month and then it went to the bay.   And LOL @ NY being on cali's dick.  The fact the whole rap culture pretty much started in NY.  So I guess you are saying the West stole NY's whole culture ?  The sooner ignorant cats like you realize that every region is biting every region the better off we're all be.    And as much as you would like to believe it... people in NY aren't walking around with khakis and chucks.  They aren't ghostriding there cars.
Title: Re: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: herpes on January 15, 2008, 05:03:53 PM
man I don't got too many problems with NY.. this cat just brung it outta me.. he ain't from the real queens anyway.. he just a loner trash white boy who happens to live there and idiolizes racist muthafucaz like John Gotti.. the same man who hated on blacks all his life but at the end of the day had to pay off even his own race in prison.. c'mon now.. we call those people suckaz in our jails.. no vaseline !!

HERE'S SUM SHIT IN YO FACE TOMMY BOY !!



YAY AREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
http://www.mediafire.com/?14s1yyqdej3

40's presence on a track is compared to AZ? what's the world comin to? why dont we compare pac to lil cease next..


THEY MIGHT BE TAPING
http://www.mediafire.com/?efye2jbxym1


Im from fake Queens... so there is a real and fake one now ?  And I am a loner white trash.... wow going back 5-6 years Rod.  Stuff that I said myself regarding myself.  Wow you are reaching.  I will be the first person to admit my life sucked and I sucked at life.  Things have changed Rod.  And idolizing John Gotti, yup I do.  Why b/c he was someone that came from nothing to make something of himself.  He went from a poor no one from the South Bronx to running NY.  And here was someone that deny who he was.  Unlike most of the world who lie about who and what they are.  And i downloaded the track Yay area... nothing special.  Lyrically AZ >>> E-40.  AZ's smooth flow >>>> E-40 sounding like he has a mouth full of jellybeans.
Title: Re: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: herpes on January 15, 2008, 05:05:27 PM
The one thing I will admit e-40's hustle >>>> AZ.  I may not like 40's music at all but I can respect a man that hustles for his.
Title: Re: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: Joseph Bonanno on January 15, 2008, 05:14:22 PM
i want the two dorks who don't like either of these cats to speak up.
Title: Re: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: jeromechickenbone on January 15, 2008, 08:27:39 PM
^ you're a fuckin idiot blood.. your little comments here and there is on some sucka shit.. what the fuck is your screen name about? you always been a hater.. fuck you and your east coast lil attitude.. all you muthafucaz is on cali dick anyway.. always will be.. can I get a witness or what? The old new york been over ever since 80's hit, you imitate our lifestyle, point blank, period.. y'all just speak different..

Now back to the topic.. what the fuck has AZ done ever since his verse on "Life's A Bitch" ?? his songs are trash, he is just a version of Nas gone wrong. He can spit, but can he make a song? Fuck no! The only reason KOCH fucks wit him is because of the little weight he holds from Illmatic.. 40 on the other hand is a game spitter, soak his songs in, he is spittin such slick shit that it will go over your head if you just a simple muthafuca.. MCs like AZ just be spittin, half of the time, it doesn't contain no real point to it, they just puttin them words together by flow.. 40 on the other hand delievers them messages that you wouldn't even get if you ain't really from an urban area.. suckas like Tommy live in those areas, but they ain't from there.. huge difference.

40 been doin it since 87, he's 40 years old and still very much relevant, just come to the bay and speak down on 40, see how cats will be at your neck like you just dissed their father.. cats really hold this dude up super high.. he has a whole region behind him.. even his enemies admit he's king.. how do I know? I'm amongst Mac Dre's folks that opposed him.. trust me.. shit's deeper in the bay.. huge movement behind the man.. when he goes platinum, it ain't the same fans that's buyin 50 cent or Ja Rule shit, it's majority solid muthafucaz.. go to a 40 show and tell me it wasn't one of the best experiences of your life.. he's in Vegas all the time.. hit it up.. it goes down like a prom dress.. can't say the same about AZ.. who is he again? shit who knows.. all I know is 40 will destroy AZ in a battle.. I got 10 Gz on it.. say I don't !!




I know the Bay is a real ass place and yall respect the fuck outta 40.  Props for that. 

But your arguement is largely based on his status amongst the Bay and doesn't necessarily say what makes him a better MC.  What has AZ done since "Life's A Bitch"?  For starters, Doe or Die prolly isn't a classic, but it's damn close.  AZ's lyricism and flow was arguably the dopest in the game at that time.  You can't hear "Rather Unique" and disagree.  His verse on "Affirmative Action" was ridiculous.  Completely made you forget about Nas (Mega helped too).  And I'd argue that AZ has never made a wack album.  Can 40 make that claim?

But it's 2008, so lets look at their recent shit.  Look at the last 2 singles and last 2 albums AZ has released compared to what 40's last 2 singles and last 2 albums.  AZ wins.  I respected Hyphy as a new original sound, but unless you're thizzin at a party, you can't bump that album all the way through.  And I'm all down for partyin and shit, but if the album has no value otherwise, whats the point?

And bananas, you my nig, but calling AZ Nas' book carrier isn't accurate.  It was funny as fuck though.   Nas' lyrical content>AZ lyrical content, but AZ flow>Nas' Flow
Title: Re: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on January 15, 2008, 08:36:45 PM
I dont get how this is tied LOL!!!

LOL I just popped in some AZ for the fuck of it to see what the hype was about this dude and don't know how these two can be compared other than that they had beef

AZ to me typical NYC rapper lyrics flow but dude got no charisma on the mic
Title: Re: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on January 15, 2008, 09:58:37 PM
I'm from the last generation before hyphy, that stuff don't apply to me too much.. but I do support the movement cuzz it's all around me. But that is not the argument, bottomline is that E40 is an MC to me, the way he writes has its own little way that no one can touch, this is coming from someone who's been writing and analyzing all his life, you'd just have to soak him enough to understand. And hey, at least you understand his hustle.. which imitates that true bay hustle, something no area can compare with.   
Title: Re: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: Joseph Bonanno on January 15, 2008, 10:01:17 PM
I like E-40's lyrical content as well as delivery better. its shit you can relate to, and its not just blah black rock blah blah block standard delivery like AZ does. AZ is good for a new york rapper though
Title: Re: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: thisoneguy360 on January 15, 2008, 10:22:07 PM
AZ it's no contest imo
Title: Re: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: WestCoasta on January 16, 2008, 01:15:40 AM
AZ it's no contest imo

really, is it no contest?



LOL at Tommy getting all hurt and trying to diss the West and Rod getting all hurt and trying to diss the East

you guys are fuckin lames


Title: Re: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: SGV on January 16, 2008, 01:48:28 AM
AZ is cool and all, but dude hasn't really had a solid album in a long time.

Though... Neither has 40. But, at the end of the day, I still say 40 is the better of the two. Not because I'm a 40 fan, but because dude has proven his worth. AZ never really had that chance. Dude was always Nas' man. Then Foxy's man. Back to Nas. Etc. He's got some cool joints, but I just think dude is crazy boring now.
Title: Re: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: Kill on January 16, 2008, 06:07:45 AM
AZ is good for a new york rapper though
what's that supposed to mean? Like NY rappers tend to suffer from a general lack of talent?
Title: Re: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: Tommy Illnigga on January 16, 2008, 06:30:36 AM

I know the Bay is a real ass place and yall respect the fuck outta 40.  Props for that. 

But your arguement is largely based on his status amongst the Bay and doesn't necessarily say what makes him a better MC.  What has AZ done since "Life's A Bitch"?  For starters, Doe or Die prolly isn't a classic, but it's damn close.  AZ's lyricism and flow was arguably the dopest in the game at that time.  You can't hear "Rather Unique" and disagree.  His verse on "Affirmative Action" was ridiculous.  Completely made you forget about Nas (Mega helped too).  And I'd argue that AZ has never made a wack album.  Can 40 make that claim?

But it's 2008, so lets look at their recent shit.  Look at the last 2 singles and last 2 albums AZ has released compared to what 40's last 2 singles and last 2 albums.  AZ wins.  I respected Hyphy as a new original sound, but unless you're thizzin at a party, you can't bump that album all the way through.  And I'm all down for partyin and shit, but if the album has no value otherwise, whats the point?

And bananas, you my nig, but calling AZ Nas' book carrier isn't accurate.  It was funny as fuck though.   Nas' lyrical content>AZ lyrical content, but AZ flow>Nas' Flow

on point
Title: Re: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on January 16, 2008, 09:38:51 AM
LOL at Tommy getting all hurt and trying to diss the West and Rod getting all hurt and trying to diss the East

you guys are fuckin lames


ain't no one hurt, but I'd hurt you 4 ur lame comments.. you dunno me or trynna see me.. I'm just a loose cannon on these boards.. I could careless bout changin opinions.. I'm ramblin on a cell phone usually.. I pay attention to a post like Tommy's cuzz I known him on here for like 8 years.. I'm just havin fun wit it.. nobody knew some of the stuff I was talkin bout but him.. ha ha ha.. so stfu cool guy.. E40 for president!
Title: Re: E-40 or AZ?
Post by: J$crILLa on January 16, 2008, 12:05:42 PM
40 water by a mile....