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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: jonathandubcnn on December 05, 2012, 01:37:42 PM
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Check it out here:
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.22110/title.wideawake-death-row-records-reportedly-being-sold-in-wake-of-parent-companys-bankruptcy
Exclusive: A new company is slated to take over WIDEawake Death Row.
WIDEawake Death Row and its catalog is reportedly being sold to a publicly held company, HipHopDX has exclusively learned.
According to former Hoopla president and former Death Row publicist Jonathan Hay, New Solutions Financial Corp., a Canadian company that owns WIDEawake Death Row, has gone bankrupt and is selling both the label and catalog to a publicly held company. The deal is set to be closed on December 10th.
Hay explains that the label tried to release remastered and remixed versions of albums from the catalog over the pst four years but were not satisfied with the end results. He said that many of their ideas were shot down and was unhappy with the decisions of the staff at WIDEawake Death Row "across the board," blaming it on "inexperience."
The future of the label's distribution deal with eOne will be addressed in the forthcoming weeks. Read the full statement below.
New Solutions Financial Corp., the Canadian umbrella company that currently owns WIDEawake Death Row, is bankrupt. The historical record label and catalog is being sold to a publicly held company. Being on the inside, we are hearing that the deal will be closed on December 10th. Honestly, we are not surprised by the bankruptcy as we have been actively involved with eight of the Death Row Records' releases over the last four years and have seen the problems firsthand. Time and time again we tried to use our influence to get new mixing and mastering for these re-releases because we knew the albums sounded piss-poor from a sonic standpoint. Even though we helped put together a lot of the artwork over the years, we were never happy with the end result and how it looked, as most of our visual ideas weren't executed as we requested. We wanted every Death Row release to look and feel like a box set with the highest quality of work because we felt that every project deserved that kind of treatment. Most of our ideas for publicity and marketing were shot down, even though we were paid to do the job. Over the years, we have argued, fussed, kicked and screamed with the staff of WIDEawake Death Row over the decisions being made, all across the board. In my opinion, the fatal problem of the company was the inexperience of the people involved, who at times seemed to prideful to accept direction. It was around this time last year that we had Snoop Dogg, with the help of Big Holis, willing to sit down with WIDEawake to discuss the possibility of becoming the face of Death Row Records again. As exciting as this could have been, WIDEawake rejected the idea. With this new company taking over Death Row, hopefully some of our ideas will finally be implemented to help preserve the Death Row Records catalog and legacy. As far as our own distribution deal through WIDEawake Death Row and eOne, we will speaking with everyone about this transition after the holidays.
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I don't understand... so you've been hired as an outside source to give direction and focus to the albums? You are not employees of WideAwake I take it, and hope to work with whoever purchases DeathRow shortly?
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Part of their failure was not getting the original artists onboard (regardless of who was being stubborn) and also not releasing them as retail CDs through retail outlets.
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This is not surprising at all. There was an article about them looking to sell the company in 2010 because they couldn't get back the 25 million. Looks like bankruptcy had to come first. John Payne did a fucking terrible job running the company and to this day I have no idea what credentials even got him that job. Being an assistant studio engineer in the first 1-2 years Death Row was around doesn't mean shit when it comes to running a business. Hell, his studio engineer skills are even questionable if you listen to some of the shit he's released.
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thank you WideAwake...for completing my collection.you will b missed.
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thank you WideAwake...for completing my collection.you will b missed.
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Yo Dre do us all a favour and just buy this thing
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Yo Dre do us all a favour and just buy this thing
He could probably pick it up at a discounted rate, considering how they're going bankrupt and likely will have to get rid of those assets for bottom dollar. Dre is obviously capable of mixing and releasing/promoting music and is on good enough terms with most of the old Death Row artists, or at least the ones whose music people would actually buy. Plus with all the money he's making off of Beats By Dre, he easily could do this on his own.
What better way to get back at Death Row and whoever else who dissed him by taking over control of all of the recordings and making money off of it, while burying whatever shit there is dissing him? I can live without Fuck Dre Part 38 by Realest and whoever else. Though he'd be able to release all of his old recordings. Maybe Dre was slow, but I bet he has a lot of Death Row stuff still in the vaults, whether his own stuff or just beats he did for other people like Snoop and Rage. But luckily Watch Ya Mouth already leaked, so it's not like there are any other Pac songs that diss him that he wouldn't want to put out.
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Yo Dre do us all a favour and just buy this thing
He could probably pick it up at a discounted rate, considering how they're going bankrupt and likely will have to get rid of those assets for bottom dollar. Dre is obviously capable of mixing and releasing/promoting music and is on good enough terms with most of the old Death Row artists, or at least the ones whose music people would actually buy. Plus with all the money he's making off of Beats By Dre, he easily could do this on his own.
What better way to get back at Death Row and whoever else who dissed him by taking over control of all of the recordings and making money off of it, while burying whatever shit there is dissing him? I can live without Fuck Dre Part 38 by Realest and whoever else. Though he'd be able to release all of his old recordings. Maybe Dre was slow, but I bet he has a lot of Death Row stuff still in the vaults, whether his own stuff or just beats he did for other people like Snoop and Rage. But luckily Watch Ya Mouth already leaked, so it's not like there are any other Pac songs that diss him that he wouldn't want to put out.
man i'd LOVE to see Dre take over this label and actually put out songs
buttttt i bet if he bought the label he'd sit on it like he does with ALL of Aftermath's albums :D
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def dont want dre to buy it or we will get nothing more in the vaults at all! they should just drop all the songs the have left individually on itunes so you could buy the ones you wanted, but that wont happen either
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def dont want dre to buy it or we will get nothing more in the vaults at all! they should just drop all the songs the have left individually on itunes so you could buy the ones you wanted, but that wont happen either
Ya we'd be better off with WideAwake than Dre. The only reason Dre would want anything to do with this is to purchase the rights to the Chronic and the other stuff of his released while on Death Row. He doesn't care about what's in the vault, and his material that is in the vault he'd rather leave there because it was not finished or not up to his standards.
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def dont want dre to buy it or we will get nothing more in the vaults at all! they should just drop all the songs the have left individually on itunes so you could buy the ones you wanted, but that wont happen either
Ya we'd be better off with WideAwake than Dre. The only reason Dre would want anything to do with this is to purchase the rights to the Chronic and the other stuff of his released while on Death Row. He doesn't care about what's in the vault, and his material that is in the vault he'd rather leave there because it was not finished or not up to his standards.
That obviously wasn't the case, considering how terrible WIDEawake ran Death Row. If Dre were to do it, I think he knows that the releases are essentially going to be B-sides and album scraps, but there is clearly a market for them, so it's not as if he needs to be consumed with re-doing the beats until they're perfect at that point.
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Yo Dre do us all a favour and just buy this thing
He could probably pick it up at a discounted rate, considering how they're going bankrupt and likely will have to get rid of those assets for bottom dollar. Dre is obviously capable of mixing and releasing/promoting music and is on good enough terms with most of the old Death Row artists, or at least the ones whose music people would actually buy. Plus with all the money he's making off of Beats By Dre, he easily could do this on his own.
What better way to get back at Death Row and whoever else who dissed him by taking over control of all of the recordings and making money off of it, while burying whatever shit there is dissing him? I can live without Fuck Dre Part 38 by Realest and whoever else. Though he'd be able to release all of his old recordings. Maybe Dre was slow, but I bet he has a lot of Death Row stuff still in the vaults, whether his own stuff or just beats he did for other people like Snoop and Rage. But luckily Watch Ya Mouth already leaked, so it's not like there are any other Pac songs that diss him that he wouldn't want to put out.
Agree for sure but I guess Smash has a point as well....Fuck it we should all buy it...I've got $1000, how much you guys have?
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def dont want dre to buy it or we will get nothing more in the vaults at all! they should just drop all the songs the have left individually on itunes so you could buy the ones you wanted, but that wont happen either
Ya we'd be better off with WideAwake than Dre. The only reason Dre would want anything to do with this is to purchase the rights to the Chronic and the other stuff of his released while on Death Row. He doesn't care about what's in the vault, and his material that is in the vault he'd rather leave there because it was not finished or not up to his standards.
That obviously wasn't the case, considering how terrible WIDEawake ran Death Row. If Dre were to do it, I think he knows that the releases are essentially going to be B-sides and album scraps, but there is clearly a market for them, so it's not as if he needs to be consumed with re-doing the beats until they're perfect at that point.
You misunderstood what I meant by that. Of course WideAwake ran that company terribly. Dre would've just sat on the catalog if he owned it, and he wouldn't have released shit, whereas WideAwake actually did put out some good stuff. They just executed everything very poorly.
Dre has no interest in Death Row though so let's stop dreaming about it.
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there's not really a future for death row, besides reissuing their best selling albums
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everyone seems to know what dre is thinking
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Not a shocker but could mean stuff is handled better next time
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D.A.Z needs to buy this!
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D.A.Z needs to buy this!
LOL imagine! He used to have like 20m in folding lol
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def dont want dre to buy it or we will get nothing more in the vaults at all! they should just drop all the songs the have left individually on itunes so you could buy the ones you wanted, but that wont happen either
Ya we'd be better off with WideAwake than Dre. The only reason Dre would want anything to do with this is to purchase the rights to the Chronic and the other stuff of his released while on Death Row. He doesn't care about what's in the vault, and his material that is in the vault he'd rather leave there because it was not finished or not up to his standards.
That obviously wasn't the case, considering how terrible WIDEawake ran Death Row. If Dre were to do it, I think he knows that the releases are essentially going to be B-sides and album scraps, but there is clearly a market for them, so it's not as if he needs to be consumed with re-doing the beats until they're perfect at that point.
You misunderstood what I meant by that. Of course WideAwake ran that company terribly. Dre would've just sat on the catalog if he owned it, and he wouldn't have released shit, whereas WideAwake actually did put out some good stuff. They just executed everything very poorly.
Dre has no interest in Death Row though so let's stop dreaming about it.
I understood what you meant, but I disagreed with what you said about Dre hypothetically not releasing the stuff if he were in control. That's what I meant. But I'm a little confused by you saying that WIDEawake "did put out some good stuff" but "executed everything very poorly," as that's a little conflicting, though my assumption is that what you meant was that they did good things by putting out unreleased stuff from people like Snoop and whoever else while also releasing compilations of music from lesser-known Death Row artists, though a lot of the stuff they put out was not what they should have released, at least not initially.
Mixing issues aside, The Lost Sessions Vol. 1 could've been a lot better. But half of the songs sucked. Obviously with a lot of the remaining songs being unreleased leftovers, B-sides, etc., we can't exactly expect a true successor to Doggystyle that is classic from start to finish, but that aside, there was still a lot of quality material leftover from EVERYONE. Had someone else with half of a brain (whether they have prior experience as an executive producer) been in control, they'd know that they have to set the tone and put out your mission statement, so to speak, right off the bat. I guarantee that if Dre, Snoop, Daz or even someone unaffiliated like 50 Cent or whoever been in charge, they wouldn't have picked those songs to be on Chronic Re-Lit, The Lost Sessions, etc.
But maybe I'm rambling now, haha. I agree that we're just dreaming about it. But it's funny how potent the Death Row vaults are but how cursed they are, as everyone who seems to take possession of it paid big money to acquire it, promised big releases, then eventually folded and sold it off for millions less.
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everyone seems to know what dre is thinking
no kim, we don't
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somebody just put out the unreleased DR. DRE (if anything, becuz thats really what people care about). And some more Snoop and DPGC (daz, kurupt, rage, x, and pre-97 soopafly) and we're good along with sum Sam Sneed. And obviously Pac, unless we've heard it and have it all already (bow wow and cpo aswell)
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this could be big if sold to the right person
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def dont want dre to buy it or we will get nothing more in the vaults at all! they should just drop all the songs the have left individually on itunes so you could buy the ones you wanted, but that wont happen either
Ya we'd be better off with WideAwake than Dre. The only reason Dre would want anything to do with this is to purchase the rights to the Chronic and the other stuff of his released while on Death Row. He doesn't care about what's in the vault, and his material that is in the vault he'd rather leave there because it was not finished or not up to his standards.
That obviously wasn't the case, considering how terrible WIDEawake ran Death Row. If Dre were to do it, I think he knows that the releases are essentially going to be B-sides and album scraps, but there is clearly a market for them, so it's not as if he needs to be consumed with re-doing the beats until they're perfect at that point.
You misunderstood what I meant by that. Of course WideAwake ran that company terribly. Dre would've just sat on the catalog if he owned it, and he wouldn't have released shit, whereas WideAwake actually did put out some good stuff. They just executed everything very poorly.
Dre has no interest in Death Row though so let's stop dreaming about it.
I understood what you meant, but I disagreed with what you said about Dre hypothetically not releasing the stuff if he were in control. That's what I meant. But I'm a little confused by you saying that WIDEawake "did put out some good stuff" but "executed everything very poorly," as that's a little conflicting, though my assumption is that what you meant was that they did good things by putting out unreleased stuff from people like Snoop and whoever else while also releasing compilations of music from lesser-known Death Row artists, though a lot of the stuff they put out was not what they should have released, at least not initially.
Mixing issues aside, The Lost Sessions Vol. 1 could've been a lot better. But half of the songs sucked. Obviously with a lot of the remaining songs being unreleased leftovers, B-sides, etc., we can't exactly expect a true successor to Doggystyle that is classic from start to finish, but that aside, there was still a lot of quality material leftover from EVERYONE. Had someone else with half of a brain (whether they have prior experience as an executive producer) been in control, they'd know that they have to set the tone and put out your mission statement, so to speak, right off the bat. I guarantee that if Dre, Snoop, Daz or even someone unaffiliated like 50 Cent or whoever been in charge, they wouldn't have picked those songs to be on Chronic Re-Lit, The Lost Sessions, etc.
But maybe I'm rambling now, haha. I agree that we're just dreaming about it. But it's funny how potent the Death Row vaults are but how cursed they are, as everyone who seems to take possession of it paid big money to acquire it, promised big releases, then eventually folded and sold it off for millions less.
What I meant by WideAwake put out some good stuff is that they put out good MUSIC from the vault (LBC Crew for example). What I meant by they executed it poorly was that the mixing was bad, promotion was bad, artwork was bad (at times), the order they released the projects in made little sense business wise, etc.
As for Death Row being "cursed" I don't think that's the case at all. The real problem is the business sense, or lack thereof, of the people in charge. I think the most ideal situation would be if the new company could work out something with Daz to work for them. Daz knows the catalog pretty well from the time he was there, he may possess some of the missing masters, and apparently him and Dre are cool again so there's a potential for something to be worked out with Dre. He also knows that WA was fucking up the mixing big time, so we could see big improvements there. I'll stop dreamin though ;)
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i doubt theres even much good stuff left. seems like the well ran dry real quick. probably a ton of barely started shit though
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i doubt theres even much good stuff left. seems like the well ran dry real quick. probably a ton of barely started shit though
theres a gang of shit left
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i doubt theres even much good stuff left. seems like the well ran dry real quick. probably a ton of barely started shit though
theres a gang of shit left
yep
even some Dre shit we don't have
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As for Death Row being "cursed" I don't think that's the case at all. The real problem is the business sense, or lack thereof, of the people in charge. I think the most ideal situation would be if the new company could work out something with Daz to work for them. Daz knows the catalog pretty well from the time he was there, he may possess some of the missing masters, and apparently him and Dre are cool again so there's a potential for something to be worked out with Dre. He also knows that WA was fucking up the mixing big time, so we could see big improvements there. I'll stop dreamin though ;)
I didn't literally mean that it was "cursed." It was just an observation of the last couple of parties involved dropping a ton of money on the material and losing out in the end, having to sell it at a mid/high seven-figure loss, despite sitting on tons of potential that ended up not getting utilized. From WIDEawake executing things poorly, as you put it (which I agree with), to the previous company just sitting on it and not even releasing a scrap, there's practically no reason why it could've gone that bad. Even the idiots at Amaru Records who constantly butcher Pac material still manage to get the albums to go gold or so.
Daz would be a good candidate, as long as he doesn't remix anything (unless he gets Mike Dean in the mix and treats it like he did the Makaveli & Dillinger project or if he can take it back to whatever mindset he was in during that time). Just like you said, I'm sure he has a ton of masters that may not be in their collection (some of which he sold to Afeni), so he can get paid and get credit while re-promoting himself as an artist (which can generate buzz for whatever DPG project he might be working on in the future). It's not like he's making millions doing something else, like Dre.
i doubt theres even much good stuff left. seems like the well ran dry real quick. probably a ton of barely started shit though
That's impossible. There are a lot of songs that we're aware of and have in mediocre quality that we want to hear. And then there are albums that we know were at some level of completion (Chronic II, West Coast Aftershock, Eargasm, etc.). I doubt that there are no unheard songs that bump, considering how hungry yet talented everyone was at that time.
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they have quite a few Dre songs but none are more than 2 verses according to Lari Levi in 2009
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Chronic 2 isn't in the vaults. Anything done after mid '94 by Dre isn't in the vaults. Helter Skelter's not in there. Next Episode's not in there. Mr. Officer's in there. Some other goodies are in there. For those concerned about Dogg Pound stuff.
DAT Aftershock Ruffs DAT 8/96 Session Tape Aftershock Here Hit This (cassette transfer), Champagne Wishes, What You About, Like That, 10 ta Midnight, Life I Lead, Freestyle Instrumental, Freestyle AV, Swiss Groove:w/freestyle,instrumental Swiss Groove 1&2 instrumental, Country Tides AV, Rock In All Minds PO405250
DAT Westcoast Aftershock 12/27/95 #1 2Pac Untitled (Kurupt&Daz,2Pac and others), Jack Move, Untitled newbeat PO389659
DAT Tha Dogg Pound 4/1/98 safety copy Tha Dogg Pound Don't Stop (Keep Going), Every Single Day, What the People Say PO776604 45 5
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DAT Aftershock P-3686-DAT 2 safety copy 8/1/96 Aftershock Here Hit This, Lifeilead, Mental, 10 Ta Midnight, Like That y'all, What'cha about, That's My PO776603 45 5
Dogg Pound Work DAT West Coast Aftershock 8/10/96 Tha Dogg Pound Don't Stop Keep Goin, Dogg Pound Criminals, Me & My World, Beverly Blvd 7pm (live street sounds) PO778864 45 2
DAT Westcoast Aftershock 12/27/95 #1 2Pac Untitled (Kurupt&Daz,2Pac and others), Jack Move, Untitled newbeat PO389659
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Chronic 2 isn't in the vaults. Anything done after mid '94 by Dre isn't in the vaults. Helter Skelter's not in there. Next Episode's not in there. Mr. Officer's in there. Some other goodies are in there. For those concerned about Dogg Pound stuff.
DAT Aftershock Ruffs DAT 8/96 Session Tape Aftershock Here Hit This (cassette transfer), Champagne Wishes, What You About, Like That, 10 ta Midnight, Life I Lead, Freestyle Instrumental, Freestyle AV, Swiss Groove:w/freestyle,instrumental Swiss Groove 1&2 instrumental, Country Tides AV, Rock In All Minds PO405250
DAT Westcoast Aftershock 12/27/95 #1 2Pac Untitled (Kurupt&Daz,2Pac and others), Jack Move, Untitled newbeat PO389659
DAT Tha Dogg Pound 4/1/98 safety copy Tha Dogg Pound Don't Stop (Keep Going), Every Single Day, What the People Say PO776604 45 5
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DAT Aftershock P-3686-DAT 2 safety copy 8/1/96 Aftershock Here Hit This, Lifeilead, Mental, 10 Ta Midnight, Like That y'all, What'cha about, That's My PO776603 45 5
Dogg Pound Work DAT West Coast Aftershock 8/10/96 Tha Dogg Pound Don't Stop Keep Goin, Dogg Pound Criminals, Me & My World, Beverly Blvd 7pm (live street sounds) PO778864 45 2
DAT Westcoast Aftershock 12/27/95 #1 2Pac Untitled (Kurupt&Daz,2Pac and others), Jack Move, Untitled newbeat PO389659
DID BEN ARNOLD GIVE U THIS LIST B4 HE GAVE U HIV?
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Chronic 2 isn't in the vaults. Anything done after mid '94 by Dre isn't in the vaults. Helter Skelter's not in there. Next Episode's not in there. Mr. Officer's in there. Some other goodies are in there. For those concerned about Dogg Pound stuff.
DAT Aftershock Ruffs DAT 8/96 Session Tape Aftershock Here Hit This (cassette transfer), Champagne Wishes, What You About, Like That, 10 ta Midnight, Life I Lead, Freestyle Instrumental, Freestyle AV, Swiss Groove:w/freestyle,instrumental Swiss Groove 1&2 instrumental, Country Tides AV, Rock In All Minds PO405250
DAT Westcoast Aftershock 12/27/95 #1 2Pac Untitled (Kurupt&Daz,2Pac and others), Jack Move, Untitled newbeat PO389659
DAT Tha Dogg Pound 4/1/98 safety copy Tha Dogg Pound Don't Stop (Keep Going), Every Single Day, What the People Say PO776604 45 5
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DAT Aftershock P-3686-DAT 2 safety copy 8/1/96 Aftershock Here Hit This, Lifeilead, Mental, 10 Ta Midnight, Like That y'all, What'cha about, That's My PO776603 45 5
Dogg Pound Work DAT West Coast Aftershock 8/10/96 Tha Dogg Pound Don't Stop Keep Goin, Dogg Pound Criminals, Me & My World, Beverly Blvd 7pm (live street sounds) PO778864 45 2
DAT Westcoast Aftershock 12/27/95 #1 2Pac Untitled (Kurupt&Daz,2Pac and others), Jack Move, Untitled newbeat PO389659
DID BEN ARNOLD GIVE U THIS LIST B4 HE GAVE U HIV?
The very fact faggot scammers/bootleggers are involved somehow with DR means the releases if any will be half assed
They should let Rhino Records or someone similar get involved with remastering and releasing the vaults.
Original Masyer tape -> professional remaster/mastering -> CD. Not 5th gen cassette shit and fake wav or other type multiple recompress shit with intro/outros cut off and other shit missing etc.
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If that's the case, where did the Next Episode OG shit rip originate from?
On that DAT list, is "Me & My World" a typo for "Me in Your World"? I remember that supposedly being intended for West Coast Aftershock, according to what they were saying onstage at the House of Blues performance.
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If that's the case, where did the Next Episode OG shit rip originate from?
On that DAT list, is "Me & My World" a typo for "Me in Your World"? I remember that supposedly being intended for West Coast Aftershock, according to what they were saying onstage at the House of Blues performance.
Foesum and yes.
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There's probably lots of music over in tha vaults, the question is do u care about Said artist(s) and 4 all of the other shit including those Said artist(s) You care about. How much of it is actually any good? And when i say "good", is the music good and can u actually use it or is it just another half-made beat with a recycled verse on top?
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@OGWillB - You know what I would do if I was in charge of Death Row? I wouldn't bootleg it. Here's my exact plan.
Photography: You hit up George Pryce, Ken Nahoum, The 45 King, Matt McDaniels, Simone, Chi Modu, Kimberly Holt, Joe Cool, and a few others for photography/artwork for the releases. Do it properly, Death Row style.
Mixing: Hire Rick Clifford, Tommy Daughtery, Dave Aron, Carlos Warlick, and Keston Wright
Mastering: Bernie Grundman
Promotion: ???? <---- Still got to think of a good company in business.
I don't believe if bootleggers would involved it would ruin it, it's just the fact that redundant upper management at WIDEawake ruined it.
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@OGWillB - You know what I would do if I was in charge of Death Row? I wouldn't bootleg it. Here's my exact plan.
Photography: You hit up George Pryce, Ken Nahoum, The 45 King, Matt McDaniels, Simone, Chi Modu, Kimberly Holt, Joe Cool, and a few others for photography/artwork for the releases. Do it properly, Death Row style.
Mixing: Hire Rick Clifford, Tommy Daughtery, Dave Aron, Carlos Warlick, and Keston Wright
Mastering: Bernie Grundman
Promotion: ???? <---- Still got to think of a good company in business.
I don't believe if bootleggers would involved it would ruin it, it's just the fact that redundant upper management at WIDEawake ruined it.
That's an interesting post.
Now what about all the people on dubcc you just ripped off for their $$$?
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I haven't actually ripped them off. I'm still sending their stuff out as soon as I get my friend to plugin the PC I sent him it on. I had a fit of rage and smashed my harddrive with my fist in September. So, that kinda set me back.
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WIDEawake didn't do such a bad job on the first two releases, minus John Payne's shitty mixes, the tracks they picked. Lara and Payne both fucked it up. Egos and inner fighting ruined that shit. And John Payne's spending 10 K - 20 K a month.
When I attempted to get up there. I brought them Darren Vegas, RBX, Chris The Glove, Colin Wolfe, Mark Morrison, Hoopla Media (Believe it or not), Jim Gittum, K9, Warlord, and more. Could've brought Danny Boy, Crooked I, Snoop, RC, Daz, Kurupt, and hell even Dre via D.O.C. to the table. They had the money to finance. If I was an adviser to DRR right now, I'd say financially, give Dre his masters for The Chronic and allow him to re-distribute it through Interscope but it's still got to have Death Row Records on the back and they split money on the licensing. In exchange, what the new DRR gets is one album of unreleased Dr. Dre and (if I was Dr. Dre - I'd say, let's put out a Detox boxset - it's now or never for that album - really. One Chronic, One 2001, One Detox CD/DVD, One WIDEawake CD. That's hoping for too much though.) I've heard a good bit of unreleased DRR Dr. Dre. It's not bad. It's cool. It'd be a good start if they promoted right and got Dre to pump it up for the release. That must be in agreement too. Also re-sign artists like Petey Pablo, Lake, etc. Just because they got dropped six years ago doesn't mean you can't run with them now. Hell, 2 Chainz is 42 and his music is still bumping.
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Thing is though, it'd cost money. Not like over $1,000,000 but still that's good money when you're poor. Lol.
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I think for a company like Death Row Records (as old as it is) needs someone like me becuz I know the music becuz it's apart of my life more than yall think. you can't use suits, fratboys, white coco, or "outsiders" to capture it, it just would never live up to it's expectations nor it's price tag (just being honest).
It's their music and they made it and then some but these people have other shit to worry about. It's possible to turn a profit within 3 years ((if WA hasn't already)) but you need somebody like myself on the team to come in and fill that "star rookie" position on the crew.
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RadioTube,
It's not about white or black. Ask Michael Jackson and John Branca. It's about business.
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RadioTube,
It's not about white or black. Ask Michael Jackson and John Branca. It's about business.
you're the 1 who implied that it was negative, i'm just telling it like it is. i'm just keepin it 100, that's what i do with some fucks given
i don't even know you, for all i know your name Arakbafar and you live in St. Paul Minnesota.
apparently you're cool ppls. mi casa su casa early!
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Speaking of Death Row i received this today..
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Speaking of Death Row i received this today..
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damn, that looks nice. how much did that cost?
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Speaking of Death Row i received this today..
(http://i49.tinypic.com/20hx8d2.jpg)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/2pd7a.jpg)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2zrg8xe.jpg)
damn, that looks nice. how much did that cost?
$25 including shipping to UK
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wamp
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:D
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Speaking of Death Row i received this today..
(http://i49.tinypic.com/20hx8d2.jpg)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/2pd7a.jpg)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2zrg8xe.jpg)
damn, that looks nice. how much did that cost?
$25 including shipping to UK
thats not a bad price at all
does it have the bonus track on it? i forget who its by
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I think for a company like Death Row Records (as old as it is) needs someone like me becuz I know the music becuz it's apart of my life more than yall think. you can't use suits, fratboys, white coco, or "outsiders" to capture it, it just would never live up to it's expectations nor it's price tag (just being honest).
Brother, you're not going to get hired by posting on a forum. If your ideas are worth money, you gotta go out and make money with them. You're not going to grab anyone's attention by making little mixes with popular artists and throwing your crummy little cover designs on it. People been doing that since CD burners first came out. This is 2012, going on 2013. If you know the music and you know what's hot, grab artists on your local scene who are still raw and could use the management. Instead posting up your fake tracklists or fake little bootlegs of material owned by major labels, go out and get artists that you actually fuck with who will sign off on letting you legally use their music and make your projects with those. That's the only way people are going to take notice.
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.... I wonder when people are gonna get it?
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wamp
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.... I wonder when people are gonna get it?
You're not that intricate, my dude. You're either the least effective attempt at trying to be a marketing genius or a one-man inside joke. Make up your mind.
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.... I wonder when people are gonna get it?
You're not that intricate, my dude. You're either the least effective attempt at trying to be a marketing genius or a one-man inside joke. Make up your mind.
or over your head like many of the simple things that go on in your life
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It's not over my head though. Your blueprint is too transparent not to get. You're too cocky a person not to school someone if you have the intellectual upper hand so playing it vague indicates that I got you.
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Or that it just proves that you're trying too hard. You're a random screen name on a forum, you have no face pics, you aren't public with what you do for a living, 99.99% of your comments directed towards me are either negative or sarcastic and have been since you've first said something to me. You lose for just taking the approach that the younger generation takes towards Tweets and Facebook Dissing like I really need to address you in particular or treat u like youre some sorta Standard with your 15inch computer monitor
Unless you wanna make small talk or make some money transactions then I have no business bothering with you. Trying to use a scholarly tone to try to talk down to me doesn't make u a tuff guy, it just makes u a bitch and an insecure prick for even thinking I'd even feel some sorta way about that or can't even use that type of swagger in the first place like I dont know its going to end in a more softer and playful tone like u werent wrong for jumping outta line like u shouldnt be called out for Flagrant BitchAssness and Wreckless Hating.
Maybe this is one of those Saturday nights where u "go out with your mates and holla at females and not get the number but still feel like tha shit becuz under normal circumstances youre too chicken to talk to them in the first place" and then u come back on Dubcc that very night and come write to me about it trying to prove that youre mature and youre a Man and how RadioTube! still hasnt reached that level of life becuz u dont have anybody to compete with in real life and this Internet Life suppliments that part of u becuz youre alone and quite sad but got used to it but feel the need to show me different becuz i give fresh breath to your life and that human touch you've missed. So u stay mad
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stop hijacking the thread, leave that for G Spot posters
back to the thread subject, i'd be shocked if that 2pac CD comes out now. sucks to say that but i bet the people buying the label are just buying it for the royalties of released music. but anyone can be better than Wide Asleep.
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stop hijacking these nuts and everybody elses. that's exactly your problem, you're on here way too much always causing some BS. and now youre throwing another temper tantrum becuz you're weak. this place is alright until u come around lookin like E-Sweet Tooth from Twisted Metal. Go start a fight at a bar and end up getting that ass beat and put on worldstar
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stop hijacking these nuts and everybody elses. that's exactly your problem, you're on here way too much always causing some BS. and now youre throwing another temper tantrum becuz you're weak. this place is alright until u come around lookin like E-Sweet Tooth from Twisted Metal. Go start a fight at a bar and end up getting that ass beat and put on worldstar
LMAO okay mr Wendy worst employee of the month
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its been a fact that i dont work at Wendy's and just becuz i used to briefly (2 months short) doesnt say anything about my character and what i do and have done in my life. I lose no points for working a job like that or any regular j-o-b. You lose for still using that joke endlessly 3 years later and still posting on here regularly everyday since then
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what if i told u my hand was on sum Bird's inner thigh right now.
should i be more of a loser for telling u about it publicly in this way or am i more of a loser for telling the whole world thru the internet?
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See what happens when u pull ppls cards. 9 times outta 10 theyre full of shit and they tell ppl theyre more powerful than they really are. We talk about Money but what are u actually trying to sell and what are you actually trying to buy? What?
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its been a fact that i dont work at Wendy's and just becuz i used to briefly (2 months short) doesnt say anything about my character and what i do and have done in my life. I lose no points for working a job like that or any regular j-o-b. You lose for still using that joke endlessly 3 years later and still posting on here regularly everyday since then
actually I went like five months without posting in 2011 so wrong again :D
now go get your shine bucket
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wow, awesome
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If you represent some artists that have music to license, I might have some projects that need songs or instrumentals. If you're really interested in talking business, you can PM me if you have some demo tracks. If not, we can keep having some fun with it. All that other stuff you can save for another conversation though.
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nah bro u just got PMS
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im not ur bro
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im not ur bro
Attention Arthur, someone dropped their Frosty next to table #8 please grab the mop and go clean it up
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im not ur bro
Attention Arthur, someone dropped their Frosty next to table #8 please grab the mop and go clean it up
LMAO
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there's not really a future for death row, besides reissuing their best selling albums
This is true. If we're honest, the only people who were checking for WIDEawake's releases were people like us who are hardcore DR fans and want to hear everything that was recorded on the label in its heyday. The average casual rap fan most likely never even heard of the company, and even if they did, they wouldn't have cared for the CDs that came out.
The new owners of DR, whoever that may be, should focus on doing 20th anniversary editions of their big albums, seeing as in the next few years most of the DR albums will be 20 years old. They should remaster the recordings where necessary and reissue them with a second CD containing leftover material from the album's recording session, remixes and videos where necessary, and perhaps more inside the CD booklet containing information about the album and its impact.
It would have been interesting to see what direction Snoop Dogg would have taken the company...
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Snoop didn't do much with Priority - he put out a bunch of re-releases that featured his name blown up on the cover, almost bigger than the original cover art, and called them Snoop Dogg approved or something. Traffic Entertainment is the gold standard for rap re-releases.
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Speaking of Death Row i received this today..
(http://i49.tinypic.com/20hx8d2.jpg)
(http://i50.tinypic.com/2pd7a.jpg)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2zrg8xe.jpg)
damn, that looks nice. how much did that cost?
$25 including shipping to UK
thats not a bad price at all
does it have the bonus track on it? i forget who its by
OFTB wasnt it? if so then no.
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"Hot One" was only a bonus on the cassette of Murder Was The Case.
There's a Doggystyle Xmas edition too for those of you who didn't know:
http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=861928
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"Hot One" was only a bonus on the cassette of Murder Was The Case.
There's a Doggystyle Xmas edition too for those of you who didn't know:
http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=861928
I have that too..
(http://i48.tinypic.com/29dk55i.jpg)
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WIDEawake didn't do such a bad job on the first two releases, minus John Payne's shitty mixes, the tracks they picked. Lara and Payne both fucked it up. Egos and inner fighting ruined that shit. And John Payne's spending 10 K - 20 K a month.
When I attempted to get up there. I brought them Darren Vegas, RBX, Chris The Glove, Colin Wolfe, Mark Morrison, Hoopla Media (Believe it or not), Jim Gittum, K9, Warlord, and more. Could've brought Danny Boy, Crooked I, Snoop, RC, Daz, Kurupt, and hell even Dre via D.O.C. to the table. They had the money to finance. If I was an adviser to DRR right now, I'd say financially, give Dre his masters for The Chronic and allow him to re-distribute it through Interscope but it's still got to have Death Row Records on the back and they split money on the licensing. In exchange, what the new DRR gets is one album of unreleased Dr. Dre and (if I was Dr. Dre - I'd say, let's put out a Detox boxset - it's now or never for that album - really. One Chronic, One 2001, One Detox CD/DVD, One WIDEawake CD. That's hoping for too much though.) I've heard a good bit of unreleased DRR Dr. Dre. It's not bad. It's cool. It'd be a good start if they promoted right and got Dre to pump it up for the release. That must be in agreement too. Also re-sign artists like Petey Pablo, Lake, etc. Just because they got dropped six years ago doesn't mean you can't run with them now. Hell, 2 Chainz is 42 and his music is still bumping.
interesting that you've heard most of the unreleased dre audio from death row. did you hear mr. officer?
there's not really a future for death row, besides reissuing their best selling albums
This is true. If we're honest, the only people who were checking for WIDEawake's releases were people like us who are hardcore DR fans and want to hear everything that was recorded on the label in its heyday. The average casual rap fan most likely never even heard of the company, and even if they did, they wouldn't have cared for the CDs that came out.
The new owners of DR, whoever that may be, should focus on doing 20th anniversary editions of their big albums, seeing as in the next few years most of the DR albums will be 20 years old. They should remaster the recordings where necessary and reissue them with a second CD containing leftover material from the album's recording session, remixes and videos where necessary, and perhaps more inside the CD booklet containing information about the album and its impact.
It would have been interesting to see what direction Snoop Dogg would have taken the company...
yeah the chronic re-lit was the best selling album from wideawake.
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"Hot One" was only a bonus on the cassette of Murder Was The Case.
There's a Doggystyle Xmas edition too for those of you who didn't know:
http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=861928
I have that too..
(http://i48.tinypic.com/29dk55i.jpg)
That arrangements actually what all current pressings of Doggystyle are based on (13 tracks, no G'z Up Hoes Down)
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such a shame Gz up hoes down is not known by 95% of people who own the Doggystyle album
for real none of my friends who owned the CD in high school or college knew G'z up when i'd play it for them and they'd be like "damn why was this left off?" and i would be like thats not the half, they left off a collbo with Dr. Dre lol
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there's not really a future for death row, besides reissuing their best selling albums
This is true. If we're honest, the only people who were checking for WIDEawake's releases were people like us who are hardcore DR fans and want to hear everything that was recorded on the label in its heyday. The average casual rap fan most likely never even heard of the company, and even if they did, they wouldn't have cared for the CDs that came out.
The new owners of DR, whoever that may be, should focus on doing 20th anniversary editions of their big albums, seeing as in the next few years most of the DR albums will be 20 years old. They should remaster the recordings where necessary and reissue them with a second CD containing leftover material from the album's recording session, remixes and videos where necessary, and perhaps more inside the CD booklet containing information about the album and its impact.
It would have been interesting to see what direction Snoop Dogg would have taken the company...
yeah the chronic re-lit was the best selling album from wideawake.
But that's not saying much though. Yes, it is shameful that a re-release of a nearly 20 year-old album (which has alreadly been re-released in the past) outsells their releases of previously unreleased music, but it's not like they moved a million units of it.
I agree about the other part regarding how their best bet is to re-release stuff and pair it with several bonus songs that otherwise would never have seen the light of day or stand by themselves as its own release. It's easy to do with the bigger names of previous Death Row artists who had already put out material that did well (i.e. Dre, Snoop, Dogg Pound), but it's hard to do with the lesser-known people, unless they're artists who appeared on other compilations... which actually isn't a bad idea either. A re-release of Above the Rim (with more stuff from Rage, Jewell, O.F.T.B., etc. or even another disc with what was left off combined with other unreleased stuff), Murder Was the Case (with more stuff from LBC Crew, Sam Sneed, etc.) and then maybe some of their later soundtracks like Gridlock'd and Gang Related (which should include artists who have a ton of stuff since that's when almost everyone with Death Row was really recording a lot of material). Even a re-release of later stuff could do that.
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such a shame Gz up hoes down is not known by 95% of people who own the Doggystyle album
for real none of my friends who owned the CD in high school or college knew G'z up when i'd play it for them and they'd be like "damn why was this left off?" and i would be like thats not the half, they left off a collbo with Dr. Dre lol
the original pressing had "g'z up hoes down"
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such a shame Gz up hoes down is not known by 95% of people who own the Doggystyle album
for real none of my friends who owned the CD in high school or college knew G'z up when i'd play it for them and they'd be like "damn why was this left off?" and i would be like thats not the half, they left off a collbo with Dr. Dre lol
the original pressing had "g'z up hoes down"
That's what we're talkin bout fam
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Got that too..
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lol at Suke Knight typo, someone was a retard.
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lol at Suke Knight typo, someone was a retard.
someone def got they ass beat for that!