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Drake is the realest - ask Rick Ross
Monday Apr 12 2:56 PM CDT posted by Byron Crawford
"This is a problem?" -- Rick Ross on the fact that many hip-hop videos feature ethnically ambiguous
Who would have thought that hip-hop would eventually reach the point where a former child actor from a corporate spinoff of The Children of Degrassi Street would tout his street cred by citing a cosign from a fake drug dealer who used to be a cop?
The former child actor and the ex-cop I could kinda see, separate from one another. But combined like this, it’s almost too much for the brain to handle - especially on a day in which I finally got to try KFC’s epic Double Down sandwich. I joked on Twitter that I managed to down the entire thing, plus a side of potato wedges and a Diet Pepsi (which I really do drink for the taste) without stroking out or anything, but I may have spoken too soon.
That was before I read the pull quotes from the cover story of the next issue of XXL, with Drake and Nicki Minaj on the cover, presumably leaked to coincide the release of the video for “Over” - which is mad disappointing. The song is so gay, and the video is so drab that I couldn’t bring myself to watch it in its entirety. But I probably spent just as much time flipping through it, waiting for there to be tits - jumping back and forth between different points in the video, straining my one eye that still kinda works, to make sure I didn’t miss anything.
Tha fuck?
There are two girls in the video (or is that just one, in different outfits? I couldn’t be bothered to look at her face), and it looks like they may have been cast to look like Jay-Z and Kanye’s… erm, women, Beyonce and Amber Rose. One of them’s got that short blonde afro, which is always more tolerable than it is genuinely desirable on a woman, regardless of who it is; and one of them’s light skinted but not that light skinted (god forbid she spent an afternoon outdoors), with the world’s most obvious weave, despite the resources at hand. I wonder if this was by design, to associate Drake with Jay-Z and Kanye West, in the minds of people easily swayed by music videos. In 2010.
If he wanted to make a video people actually like, he could have just cast a gang of women with proportionally huge, jiggly cans and had them run up and down stairs for no apparent reason, like he did in the video for “Best I Ever Had,” which had me kinda liking Drake, before he gave me so many reasons not to. Even if Kanye was too busy out in Hawaii crafting what sounds like a Peter Schilling-style unofficial, unsolicited sequel to Illmatic, minus the really good rapping (didn’t Non Phixion already try that a long time ago?), Drake probably could have pulled it off himself. He’s already got a lifetime of experience in film production. I could have assisted him with the casting, if he didn’t have the name of the agency where they found Shakur.
Not only is the video for “Over” completely unfapworthy, but seeing him make so many angry faces, like someone kicked his wheelchair, only serves to highlight how angry this song is, for no apparent reason. Who are these people that he didn’t know last year, and why is he so upset to see them? Is is because there’s too many black people, and that makes him nervous? As a fellow black man of questionable origin, I can certainly relate to this sentiment, but I’m not so sure there needs to be a song about. You get the idea that he needed to come up with a song that was very angry-sounding, the better to present himself to the world as a badass, and that was the best he could come up with, short of pretending to be an actual thug, which might not have gone over as well.
He’s obviously walking a very thin line between trying to rap like someone who might actually know from hardship and not drawing too much attention to the fact that he used to be on the Noggin Network. In that sense, mentioning Rick Ross in a litany of rappers who are known to have actually committed crimes (Young Jeezy, Turk, C-Murder), may have been on purpose. The idea may have been to make himself look that much more like a badass by making the rest of those guys seem less badass, by grouping them in with someone who’s such a phony. Think about it: He seems too sober and intelligent to not be aware that Rick Ross doesn’t belong anywhere on that list, and the TIs wouldn’t have leaked that quote on the same day as this new video, if they didn’t think it was in his best interest.
Drake just better hope that Rick Ross doesn’t look up from his trough of crab meats long enough to realize how Drake sorta kinda played him. Being an ex-cop is one thing, but being the guy who played Wheelchair Jimmy is something else altogether. Rawse might view this as the one battle he could actually win on principle. And you know he’s not too big on white people anyway
http://www.xxlmag.com/online/?p=76086
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Byron Crawford is easily my favourite blogger,dudes fucking hilarious.
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Byron Crawford is easily my favorite blogger,dudes fucking hilarious.
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Obviously, the song is about blowing the fuck up and people being all fucking cozy to you because you're the shit now and are trying to cake up off you. So, I can enjoy the song but I do agree the video is ass.
I also agree with a sentiment expressed in the diatribe but for a majority of the new school, not just Drake I agree that most of the new school don't really have anything to complain about and are suburban kids who stepped into hip-hop - Drake, Kid Cudi, Asher Roth, B.o.B.
I mean, hate on Charles Hamilton, but at least his life is semi interesting. He was homeless and addicted to drugs for a minute ... to my understanding then again I could be wrong and he could be another suburban kid stepping into rap.
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It's funny that 50 essentially has said the same thing a while back. He was interviewed and talked about how Drake is a complete fabrication and they're trying to give you something real (similar to his story) but it isn't. He even talked about the new school and how they're trying to be like A Tribe Called Quest & Common hip-hop but without any message. They ain't saying shit. Of course 50's hating, not telling his opinion that happens to be near the mark of truth.
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so what's the point? drake's faker than ross cause he did a angry sounding/looking song/video that doesn't have enough tits in it? or is it the fact that drake used to be an actor so he don't have the authorization to speak on other topics than bitches and money? smh...these internet haters always find something to be mad about...ALWAYS...
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good read lol..
anyway i dont know why ppl love Drake so much.. i think he`s overrated.
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50 has a point. These new hipster rappers are just watered down conscious rappers for the mainstream. Everybody wants to be like Kanye...
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so what's the point? drake's faker than ross cause he did a angry sounding/looking song/video that doesn't have enough tits in it? or is it the fact that drake used to be an actor so he don't have the authorization to speak on other topics than bitches and money? smh...these internet haters always find something to be mad about...ALWAYS...
While I agree the article is more or less hating, what does Drake have to complain about? The cost of fame? Really?
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Hip hop is in a sad state when "new Rick Ross feat. Ne-Yo" and any random Drake thread gets 20+ replies, and the "New Onyx single" thread gets 0 replies. :(
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i could really care less if drake was on kids tv or whatever aside from the fact that his fake street persona oozes into every pore of his music and his vocals are annoying as hell. this dude is just a travesty to 'street' music and the article was pretty damn funny.
are some of his songs bumpable? yes. are his lyrics witty and well thought out? yes. but it takes more than that for me to be feeling an artist. a lot of my consideration is to do with vocals, but in drake's case, his whole persona is overwhelmingly representative of what is bad about commercial music.
just me 2 cents. rant over :bandit:
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Rick Ross has been & forever will remain an idiot.
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so what's the point? drake's faker than ross cause he did a angry sounding/looking song/video that doesn't have enough tits in it? or is it the fact that drake used to be an actor so he don't have the authorization to speak on other topics than bitches and money? smh...these internet haters always find something to be mad about...ALWAYS...
While I agree the article is more or less hating, what does Drake have to complain about? The cost of fame? Really?
i'm pretty sure that each and every individual has its struggle. imo u don't have to be street or gangsta to complain about somethin... that's humanly, no matter of classification, color or whatsoever...
plus it's not like drake portraying something that he ain't...really, when did he act or pretended to be thug or gangsta? i haven't heard any song by him goin in that direction. this blog entry is pure hateration and i simply can't stand that. i know some of these members on here can't do nothing else but hate, but this is dubcc and i don't really expect nothin else but hate by half these dudes *lol* however this blog is a semi professional xxl blog so professionalism is due, ain't it?
my whole point is: it's coo with me if u ain't likin dude - hell, even i ain't the biggest drake fan either *lol* but stick to tha facts and stop twisting it, specially if u r writtin for xxl.
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There is a personal concept of struggle but then there is the reality that if you're from a safe neighbourhood and a decent economic background the only thing hindering you is you (unless of course you've been abused). Part of his image is that he came from nothing and had to overcome huge difficulties.
I have a general problem with most of the new school because of this.
I still bump their music that I find good.
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There is a personal concept of struggle but then there is the reality that if you're from a safe neighbourhood and a decent economic background the only thing hindering you is you (unless of course you've been abused). Part of his image is that he came from nothing and had to overcome huge difficulties.
I have a general problem with most of the new school because of this.
I still bump their music that I find good.
Ya i remember when i based my opinion on artists by how much street cred they had......in grade 8.
GROW THE FUCK UP
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stred cred?
You still spell like you're in the eighth grade.
This isn't about street credibility. I don't like the streets any more then I like suburban kids. It's about being genuine and most of the new school image is a fraud. I don't feel sympathy for people that could easily have been lawyers or doctors.
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And, I don't feel sympathy for people complaining about the cost of fame. You know cause being rich is so fucking hard. Oh my! He doesn't have anything real to rap about. When he was poor at least he can say he wanted to be successful, now all he can do is say it's far from over.
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stred cred?
You still spell like you're in the eighth grade.
This isn't about street credibility. I don't like the streets any more then I like suburban kids. It's about being genuine and most of the new school image is a fraud. I don't feel sympathy for people that could easily have been lawyers or doctors.
HAHA so what if you arent from the ghetto you aren't aloud to make music? or you haven't gone through shit? you're an idiot.
How are these artists frauds? Asher Roth dropped the dopest mixtape ive heard in awhile and he's from the suburbs and he admits that. How is this shunned upon?
Your ignorance is actually hilarious. How old are you 12?
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Can you not read? I don't care if you're from the ghetto or not. It's about being genuine and if whether or not I can feel the music & the story behind. Some music I know it's all entertainment like an action movie and this don't expect it to be credible, only entertaining. Other music asserts itself to be real and thus I have expectations from it. Your life story matters when it's one of the major things you rap about. I don't like artists that pretend to be something their not whether it's in hip-hop or punk.
Now to address Asher Roth. What has he gone through? What does he rap about? I've bumped his album. I concluded that so far he's made 2 dope songs - As I Em and Y.O.U. Everything else is bullshit material that either concerns ego or fake problems brought upon a stable financial security. If they're not that they're just bad tracks that don't do anything for me.
In general I don't like kids who grew up with a stable background talking about how hard it was. If you explore the human spirit as atmosphere is different than from whining like asher roth does.
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Can you not read? I don't care if you're from the ghetto or not. It's about being genuine and if whether or not I can feel the music & the story behind. Some music I know it's all entertainment like an action movie and this don't expect it to be credible, only entertaining. Other music asserts itself to be real and thus I have expectations from it. Your life story matters when it's one of the major things you rap about. I don't like artists that pretend to be something their not whether it's in hip-hop or punk.
Now to address Asher Roth. What has he gone through? What does he rap about? I've bumped his album. I concluded that so far he's made 2 dope songs - As I Em and Y.O.U. Everything else is bullshit material that either concerns ego or fake problems brought upon a stable financial security. If they're not that they're just bad tracks that don't do anything for me.
In general I don't like kids who grew up with a stable background talking about how hard it was. If you explore the human spirit as atmosphere is different than from whining like asher roth does.
I think everyone has their problems, it doesnt matter where you're from or how much money you're parents have supporting you. Everyone goes through their own shit and are aloud to talk about it on the mic if thats what helps them get through it.
Asher and drake may have been financially stable growing up but that doesnt mean they havent been through anything. How can you really comment and say they havent been through anything when you dont know them?
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Can you not read? I don't care if you're from the ghetto or not. It's about being genuine and if whether or not I can feel the music & the story behind. Some music I know it's all entertainment like an action movie and this don't expect it to be credible, only entertaining. Other music asserts itself to be real and thus I have expectations from it. Your life story matters when it's one of the major things you rap about. I don't like artists that pretend to be something their not whether it's in hip-hop or punk.
Now to address Asher Roth. What has he gone through? What does he rap about? I've bumped his album. I concluded that so far he's made 2 dope songs - As I Em and Y.O.U. Everything else is bullshit material that either concerns ego or fake problems brought upon a stable financial security. If they're not that they're just bad tracks that don't do anything for me.
In general I don't like kids who grew up with a stable background talking about how hard it was. If you explore the human spirit as atmosphere is different than from whining like asher roth does.
I think everyone has their problems, it doesnt matter where you're from or how much money you're parents have supporting you. Everyone goes through their own shit and are aloud to talk about it on the mic if thats what helps them get through it.
Asher and drake may have been financially stable growing up but that doesnt mean they havent been through anything. How can you really comment and say they havent been through anything when you dont know them?
Obviously, we all are emotionally being who go through individual struggles. I'm not saying they don't. I'm just saying I don't care about those who more or less grew up in a similar background as me and are complaining about having to get really fucking rich. That's not real shit to me. I don't connect to that.
Look don't get it twisted, I like their songs that I feel are genuine - Drake's succesful, Asher Roth's Y.O.U. - but the for most part I feel a lot of the new school music is hit or miss.
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TDA is the definition of a stan.You can practically feel the tears hitting the keyboard when he writes a response to someone critcizing drake.Byron Crawford is a hilarious blogger and he actually speaks on a lot of real shit within the humour.And 50 cent hate him or love him is more then often correct in his analysis of artists,thats why he continually gets interviewed everywhere,because hes an intelligent guy and he always speaks some real shit.
My problem with drake is hes just boring,he has nothing interesting to say at all.Theirs not emotion in his music,its all very cookie cutter and predictable.Everytime I listen to his music all I can picture is a bunch of suits sitting around making all of his decisions.Hes a product,hes not real hes just a manufactured product meant to sell.Theirs nothing of value to his music,their never has been and their never will be.
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im suprised your talkin down on your country-men...lol but its true
dont overhype him like everyone has with wayne, akon, tpain, rick ross...and others
TDA is the definition of a stan.You can practically feel the tears hitting the keyboard when he writes a response to someone critcizing drake.Byron Crawford is a hilarious blogger and he actually speaks on a lot of real shit within the humour.And 50 cent hate him or love him is more then often correct in his analysis of artists,thats why he continually gets interviewed everywhere,because hes an intelligent guy and he always speaks some real shit.
My problem with drake is hes just boring,he has nothing interesting to say at all.Theirs not emotion in his music,its all very cookie cutter and predictable.Everytime I listen to his music all I can picture is a bunch of suits sitting around making all of his decisions.Hes a product,hes not real hes just a manufactured product meant to sell.Theirs nothing of value to his music,their never has been and their never will be.
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Hip hop is in a sad state when "new Rick Ross feat. Ne-Yo" and any random Drake thread gets 20+ replies, and the "New Onyx single" thread gets 0 replies. :(
times have changed lol
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rick ross will say any1 is the tha releast!! hes done that plenty of times lol
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I think that ever since Drake blew up (circa Forever release) he kinda lost that ambition and got confused as to what to rap about. Because when releasing So Far Gone he was dealing the with the struggle as an artist but now he seems to have everything, something that artists usually have years into their careers. Ever since the launch of TML promotion couple weeks back, he's been getting very bland; from the safe Over drop, to the boring video, to terrible live performance, to corny answers in his interview. I'll still reserve my judgment until I hear the album but the expectations have definitely dropped.
But lol at saying 50 is intelligent when it comes to interviews. Ever since he got the Vitamin Water deal he sounds like he memorized a couple business expression he got from "business for dummy's"; actual, harsh realities, imperfections, cause and effect, general public.... he makes absolutely no sense, not to mention that he's always bitter about whoever is about to surpass him from Kanye to Jay, Drake, Lil Wayne to T.I..
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Is it just me or does Drake look kind of retarded?
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/blogs/snapcracklepop/aubrey-drake-graham.jpg
Look at that blank expression and those empty eyes
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Hip hop is in a sad state when "new Rick Ross feat. Ne-Yo" and any random Drake thread gets 20+ replies, and the "New Onyx single" thread gets 0 replies. :(
Ofcourse, people love to hate
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drake is too corny for me , ill just let the little girls listen to his pop music
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TDA is the definition of a stan.You can practically feel the tears hitting the keyboard when he writes a response to someone critcizing drake.Byron Crawford is a hilarious blogger and he actually speaks on a lot of real shit within the humour.And 50 cent hate him or love him is more then often correct in his analysis of artists,thats why he continually gets interviewed everywhere,because hes an intelligent guy and he always speaks some real shit.
My problem with drake is hes just boring,he has nothing interesting to say at all.Theirs not emotion in his music,its all very cookie cutter and predictable.Everytime I listen to his music all I can picture is a bunch of suits sitting around making all of his decisions.Hes a product,hes not real hes just a manufactured product meant to sell.Theirs nothing of value to his music,their never has been and their never will be.
lol call me a Stan see if I care you faggot.
To me you are looking like my Stan, always jumping on my nuts whenever the name drake comes up.
You say you hate drake so much, yet you've made 10 times more threads about him then I have.
What's more embarrassing, me appreciating drakes music or you constantly creating threads hating on him?
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drake is just a funny looking mofo. hes just got corny now, i hate him even more since i saw him on that lil wayne and lloyd trak with couple of othr artists
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TDA is the definition of a stan.You can practically feel the tears hitting the keyboard when he writes a response to someone critcizing drake.Byron Crawford is a hilarious blogger and he actually speaks on a lot of real shit within the humour.And 50 cent hate him or love him is more then often correct in his analysis of artists,thats why he continually gets interviewed everywhere,because hes an intelligent guy and he always speaks some real shit.
My problem with drake is hes just boring,he has nothing interesting to say at all.Theirs not emotion in his music,its all very cookie cutter and predictable.Everytime I listen to his music all I can picture is a bunch of suits sitting around making all of his decisions.Hes a product,hes not real hes just a manufactured product meant to sell.Theirs nothing of value to his music,their never has been and their never will be.
lol call me a Stan see if I care you faggot.
To me you are looking like my Stan, always jumping on my nuts whenever the name drake comes up.
You say you hate drake so much, yet you've made 10 times more threads about him then I have.
What's more embarrassing, me appreciating drakes music or you constantly creating threads hating on him?
Link me to these threads Ive created about drake.
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Hip hop is in a sad state when "new Rick Ross feat. Ne-Yo" and any random Drake thread gets 20+ replies, and the "New Onyx single" thread gets 0 replies. :(
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=247420.0
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Hip hop is in a sad state when "new Rick Ross feat. Ne-Yo" and any random Drake thread gets 20+ replies, and the "New Onyx single" thread gets 0 replies. :(
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=247420.0
Only reply you'd get on that topic is tl;dr
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yeah real talk
Hip hop is in a sad state when "new Rick Ross feat. Ne-Yo" and any random Drake thread gets 20+ replies, and the "New Onyx single" thread gets 0 replies. :(
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=247420.0
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50's the realest mahfucka in the commercial game, he needs to son all these cats...
The same thing fucks me off about Wayne, duke was picked up and made a rich rap star when he was what 12? And now he expects us to believe hes a gun toting, crack dealing gang banging blood? Fuck outta here. I dont mind if someones from a suburban background, as long as they stay real, e.g. Kid Cudi, duke makes stoner music, it is what it is, and its dope
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50's the realest mahfucka in the commercial game, he needs to son all these cats...
The same thing fucks me off about Wayne, duke was picked up and made a rich rap star when he was what 12? And now he expects us to believe hes a gun toting, crack dealing gang banging blood? Fuck outta here. I dont mind if someones from a suburban background, as long as they stay real, e.g. Kid Cudi, duke makes stoner music, it is what it is, and its dope
Lil Wayne did get shot, by himself but he still got shot.
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50's the fakest mahfucka in the commercial game, he needs to son all these cats...
he did show all those rappers that with copying a street image you can get real far, is all about marketing
Rick Ross and 50 cent are exactly the same
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50's the realest mahfucka in the commercial game, he needs to son all these cats...
REAL TALK!