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Title: the most over rated producer ever is...
Post by: Sir Petey on January 25, 2008, 11:12:09 AM
...eminem.


dude does his thing on the mic but hes ass on the boards I think his boys are scarred to tell him how bad his shit sucks. every fuckin beat sounds alike...they all sound like a remix to gatman and robbin to me.
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Post by: J. Bryson on January 25, 2008, 11:30:24 AM
i didn't even know he was rated as a producer. lol
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Post by: big mat on January 25, 2008, 11:51:08 AM
that annoying dude from the south all his beats sound the same, what's his name already?
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Post by: Sir Petey on January 25, 2008, 12:31:03 PM
that annoying dude from the south all his beats sound the same, what's his name already?


shit nigga name one...hey man I got that album in your sig, that shit is timeless.
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Post by: Philip1123 on January 25, 2008, 01:04:12 PM
I'd say Swizz Beatz or Lil' Jon.
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Post by: everlast1986 on January 25, 2008, 01:33:53 PM
Swizz Beatz
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Post by: Lunatic on January 25, 2008, 02:10:54 PM
Swizz Beatz
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Post by: hey hey hey hey smoke weed everyday on January 25, 2008, 02:30:59 PM
eminem produced a couple of good ones back in the day.. the beat he did on man vs.machine is dope! moment of clarity is pretty good too.. he was a good producer on devils night too.. but now his beats sucks.
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Post by: NotoriousTDA on January 25, 2008, 02:55:06 PM
that annoying dude from the south all his beats sound the same, what's his name already?


shit nigga name one...hey man I got that album in your sig, that shit is timeless.

is it good? maybe i might check it out
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Post by: Lunatic on January 25, 2008, 02:56:38 PM
i just wanna re-iterate my vote of swizzy lol. his beats are so fuckin bad it's crazy. they're all over the place. sooo many sounds, u can't even enjoy the shit. he really needs to calm down on the overall sound of his beats. wayyyy 2 busy
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Post by: MontrealCity's Most on January 25, 2008, 03:10:24 PM
lil jon or collipark
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Post by: Joseph Bonanno on January 25, 2008, 03:11:28 PM
i just wanna re-iterate my vote of swizzy lol. his beats are so fuckin bad it's crazy. they're all over the place. sooo many sounds, u can't even enjoy the shit. he really needs to calm down on the overall sound of his beats. wayyyy 2 busy

thing about swizz is that his beats sound realllly good if played outside where all the sounds have hella reverb and are going in the air. way hood. i wouldnt put his shit in my ipod though no way, i dont even listen it on the computer.


and yeah eminem is basura when it comes to his beats the past couple years
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Post by: LyRiCaL_G on January 25, 2008, 03:35:17 PM
c'mon dawg, when swizz comes good, its a fuckin banger! imo that is but i think he would be the type of producer who would get alot of mentions when it comes to overrated producers but i think alot of his shit is off the hook....eminem is garbage to me production wise
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Post by: Lunatic on January 25, 2008, 03:37:15 PM
Em is a decent producer, not of his beats do sound the same tho
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Post by: Lil D on January 25, 2008, 03:56:09 PM
swizz beats is pure garbage, his beats are so fucking wack its crazy [also he swagger jacked Dr.Dre's Guilty Concience for Scream on Em']. eminem has some hot beats [Lloyd Banks-Till The End/Jay-Z-Moment Of Clarity/Renegade/50 Cent [GRODT]/The Game-We Aint] but he fell off hard with garbage like [50cent-massacre/The Re-Up]
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Post by: Sir Petey on January 25, 2008, 03:59:45 PM
I agree swizz is one of the most over rated ever

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Post by: LyRiCaL_G on January 25, 2008, 04:00:18 PM
lol swizz beats eats eminem as a producer everyday of the week whether his overrated or not
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Post by: Meho on January 25, 2008, 04:03:15 PM
I'd pick Em over Swizz anyday. They both don't know shit about a bassline and that thump but comparing their basic melody; Swizz got those annoying club bangers with that "ah ah ah ah" sounds, while Em has that dark sound always with some fly violins. But he needs that dude Luis Riesto or whats his name for the co-production.
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Post by: LyRiCaL_G on January 25, 2008, 04:10:01 PM
lol@eminem being a better producer than swizz, sorry that just cracks me up....i guess its all about opinions but thats just hilarious to me, y'all talking about a born and bread proven producer for 8-10 years over someone who "converted" into a producer who has no variety, distinguish dope sound, one dimensional who cannot make a club jam...

its not even comparable in my eyes

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Post by: Dubz on January 25, 2008, 04:13:50 PM
em had a few jams in his time. they all sounded similar, some more or less than others, but lose yourself, moment of clarity (jay), obie trice's whole debut album, parts of 50's debut, and the cross (nas) were all nice. even though he fucked up 2pac's shit in a major way with all the cutting/pasting, augmenting and pitch-changing of vocals, some of the beats on loyal to the game were even nice too. as of late.. eh.. maybe not so much.

lol@eminem being a better producer than swizz, sorry that just cracks me up....i guess its all about opinions but thats just hilarious to me, y'all talking about a born and bread proven producer for 8-10 years over someone who "converted" into a producer who has no variety, distinguish dope sound, one dimensional who cannot make a club jam...

its not even comparable in my eyes



swizz is ok, but a lot of his beats use really digital sounds and sound pretty thin. i guess to each his own, but i can understand how some people dont like his style.
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Post by: LyRiCaL_G on January 25, 2008, 04:16:21 PM
^^^i can totally dig that and how they may feel eminems shit more but to say his a better producer than swizz....i could never agree, swizz got a solid history with cats imo, eminem just got introduced to that shit imo
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Post by: Dubz on January 25, 2008, 04:18:38 PM
word, i feel you
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Post by: Meho on January 25, 2008, 04:27:54 PM
Lol, Em has no variety ? I'm not saying he's versatile or anything but Swizz has zero variety. All his beats sound the same. Everytime I hear a track by him I skip it. His beats are so uncreative and boring. And yes, Em aint much better but at least his beats are somewhat more hip hop. All Swizz Beatz does is those boring club tunes. Only Swizz production I like is Rolling and the stuff with DMX. He gave DMX his best shit.
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Post by: Dubz on January 25, 2008, 04:31:56 PM
^no offense doggie, but when someone comes to you for their big budget mainstream single, you usually give them a club tune. thats just the way it is. the reason you like x's swizz joints is probably because he had beats from swizz that werent meant to be single, hence they were more "hip hop", east coast, grimy, and all that stuff. on that note, though, i dont particularly like swizz's style outside of several dope cuts.
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Post by: OG Hack Wilson on January 25, 2008, 04:35:18 PM
most over rated is P Diddy

most UNDER rated is Stretch from Live Squad
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Post by: LyRiCaL_G on January 25, 2008, 04:38:59 PM
Lol, Em has no variety ? I'm not saying he's versatile or anything but Swizz has zero variety. All his beats sound the same. Everytime I hear a track by him I skip it. His beats are so uncreative and boring. And yes, Em aint much better but at least his beats are somewhat more hip hop. All Swizz Beatz does is those boring club tunes. Only Swizz production I like is Rolling and the stuff with DMX. He gave DMX his best shit.

eminem has zero variety and creativity! y'all telling me eminem is a creative producer?!?! touch it from swizz beats is more innovative a beat than anything eminem has produced for another rapper!...infact has eminem ever created a hiphop joint....swizz made hiphop beats, club banger, he done it all!

his shit with dmx is off the hook, his shit on cassidy first album that put cassidy on the map is off the hook, his shit with separate crews and his remixes! eminems beats aint hiphop, they just boring and have a monotone sound to them...they're horrible beats, i mean he dont some good beats for some people, but what? 1 beat on an album?...swizz produced and made cats, he knows how to make albums, make hits and be creative, put out different shit, eminem cannot even put his name in the same bracket as swizz production wise...

and when someone wants a hit for an album, they will come to swizz easily before eminem....why? because his a true producer! he can make hits, ppl go to neptunes, because they bangin, ppl go to kanye, timbaland, dre, just blaze and so on....they're real producers! not someone who just chilled with dre for a minute and decided he could produce!

no offense to eminem because i recognize dude made nice beats but his not even close to swizz level as a producer
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Post by: LyRiCaL_G on January 25, 2008, 04:41:35 PM
oh and i  aint sayin swizz is amazing or anything but his on another level producing wise to eminem, its his forte, rappin is eminems....or was
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Post by: smegma on January 25, 2008, 04:42:40 PM
To me Swizz Beatz is hit or miss. He can make dope beats (Innocent Man from Cassidy for example) and I don't even wanna start about his wack shit, but I thought his "Ghetto Stories" was a solid album.

oh... and LOL @ whoever said Eminem is a better producer than Swizz Beatz. Get the fuck out of here! :D
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Post by: Meho on January 25, 2008, 04:47:10 PM
Lol, Em has no variety ? I'm not saying he's versatile or anything but Swizz has zero variety. All his beats sound the same. Everytime I hear a track by him I skip it. His beats are so uncreative and boring. And yes, Em aint much better but at least his beats are somewhat more hip hop. All Swizz Beatz does is those boring club tunes. Only Swizz production I like is Rolling and the stuff with DMX. He gave DMX his best shit.

All that stuff about Swizz Beatz making whole albums was in 98. Now it's a different story. Even Cassidy only had or two beats on his new LP (thank God).

Just a couple of dope Em beats for other rappers, niot his stuff, of the top of my head:

50 Cent
Places To Go
Patiently Waiting Feat Eminem
Don’t Push Me Feat Lloyd Banks And Eminem
I’m Supposed To Die Tonight
My Toy Soldier Feat Tony Yayo

Boo Yaa Tribe
911 Feat Eminem And B-Real

DMX
Go To Sleep Feat Eminem And Obie Trice

The Game
We Ain’t Feat Eminem

Jay Z
8 Miles And Runnin' Feat Freeway
Moment Of Clarity
Renegade Feat Eminem

Lloyd Banks
On Fire
Warrior Part II Feat Eminem, 50 Cent And Nate Dogg
Til The End Feat Nate Dogg
Hands Up

Mc Hush
Hush Is Coming Feat Nate Dogg

Nas
The Cross

Notorious B.I.G
It Has Been Said (feat Diddy, Eminem & Obie Trice)

Obie Trice
bunch of tracks

Royce Da5’9
Rock City Feat Eminem

Trick Trick
Welcome To Detroit City Feat Eminem

Tony Yayo
Drama Setter feat Obie Trice & Eminem

Xzibit
Don’t Approach Me Feat Eminem
My Name Feat Eminem And Nate Dogg

Young Buck
Lose My Mind
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Post by: Money on January 25, 2008, 04:47:52 PM
Dr. Dre
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Post by: smegma on January 25, 2008, 04:50:04 PM



^I count one dope beat (We Ain't) and one decent beat (911). The rest all sounds alike or didn't impress me so much I can remember how they sound like.
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Post by: Meho on January 25, 2008, 04:52:12 PM
In the end it all boils down on your personal taste. To me if, let's say, somebody told me I could chose Em or Swizzy to produce a track on Snoop's new LP, I'd say Em in a second. Also because his sound is so depressing people always spit some serious lyrics on the track, while every Swizz Beatz track lately is a club track.
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Post by: smegma on January 25, 2008, 04:55:42 PM
In the end it all boils down on your personal taste.

that's true... and let's be real here... you thought The Massacre from 50 Cent was one of the best albums of 2005 because you loved the beats... i don't know what else to say about your (sometimes) awful taste in hip hop :raisetheroof:
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Post by: Meho on January 25, 2008, 04:58:15 PM
I'm a producer by heart, you know that sucka!  :P

Well, I will always be called crazy for liking the Massacre, I still think it was one of the best cd's of 05. To me Curtis is everything what people are saying bout Massacre.
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Post by: big mat on January 25, 2008, 06:31:24 PM
jazze pha, his shit all sound the same and the back vocals/annoying screaming he does just makes me consider not buying some great albums
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Post by: Mr. O on January 25, 2008, 09:15:26 PM
Timberland.
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Post by: Drop A Gem On Em on January 26, 2008, 01:21:50 AM
Swizz Beatz, he's tooo predictable.
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Post by: Raphael on January 26, 2008, 01:29:30 AM
Dr. Dre
you suck.


my vote goes to timbaland.
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Post by: smegma on January 26, 2008, 08:02:45 AM
Dr. Dre[/size]
you suck.

Well, the last couple of years he did put out quite a few wack beats.
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Post by: OG Hack Wilson on January 26, 2008, 09:55:39 AM
Dr. Dre

LOL maybe if the Chronic and Doggystyle had never come out
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Post by: Invincible on January 26, 2008, 10:32:57 AM
This is my personal opinion so don't get mad but my vote goes to Battlecat.
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Post by: funkkid on January 26, 2008, 10:37:03 AM
jazzie pha
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Post by: Lunatic on January 26, 2008, 10:40:09 AM
This is my personal opinion so don't get mad but my vote goes to Battlecat.
everyone entitled to it. but damn ;)
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Post by: funkkid on January 26, 2008, 10:40:49 AM
This is my personal opinion so don't get mad but my vote goes to Battlecat.
everyone entitled to it. but damn ;)
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Post by: Sikotic™ on January 27, 2008, 01:58:19 AM
i just wanna re-iterate my vote of swizzy lol. his beats are so fuckin bad it's crazy. they're all over the place. sooo many sounds, u can't even enjoy the shit. he really needs to calm down on the overall sound of his beats. wayyyy 2 busy
I cant stand the whistles he puts in his beats. Makes me wanna kill someone.
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Post by: K-9 on January 27, 2008, 09:15:37 AM
I.M.F.O.
Scotch Stork
Pharrel
Timbaland
Swizz beatz
Kanye Pest
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Post by: StevenQBosell on January 27, 2008, 09:16:16 AM
most over rated is P Diddy

most UNDER rated is Stretch from Live Squad

LOL even though I like Puffy, I don't know anybody who'd put them in thier top 10 producers list.

Me included. I haven't really heard people talk about how "dope" Puffy's production has been since maybe 1998....
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Post by: Sikotic™ on January 27, 2008, 02:11:31 PM
jazze pha, his shit all sound the same and the back vocals/annoying screaming he does just makes me consider not buying some great albums
LADIES AND GENTLEMAN!!!