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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on December 01, 2013, 03:37:43 AM
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I was going through youtube to see the new MMLP2 material and checkin out some of his old stuff. I watched the classic "Role Model" video which was my favorite song off the Slim Shady LP back when it came out, and I remembered that Em raps..
"6 mics in the Source/
They borrowed one from LL's arm"
Only big hip-hop headz at the time will realize how fucking dope that line is. The whole Canibus/LL beef was set off by Canibus rapping "LL, give me that mic off your arm" and LL took offense and one of the greatest rap battles in history took flight, which lead to Canibus classic "2nd Round Knockout joint"
Just dope to think how Eminem rapped the same shit and he was so dominant with what he was doing that LL just ignored it like it never happened. Classic Em line that kind of went under the radar but his true fans can appreciate.
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Probably because he wasn't dissing LL, just acknowledging the fact he has a tat of a mic on his arm. Although I believe that line sparked some tension which lead to em's future beef with canibus.
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Well, a few things....
The line in question is a knowing nod to the LL-Canibus battle. It's Em having a sense of humor about it.
The LL-Canibus thing was a little more detailed than just the Canibus line. Canibus had the verse on a song with LL, Redman, Meth, and DMX. L heard it and responded on his verse and told Canibus, who was still young in the game that if he changed the line, nobody would even know what LL was talking about on his. It was Canibus who sparked it further by recording a whole diss record in response to LL doing the line.
With Em, it was quite different. Though if we're talking lines about LL coming from Eminem, I would say that line about "Roscoe beating James Todd, Senior with vacuum cleaner attachments" was far more vicious on a personal level but L has said he always understood and appreciated that Eminem was a fan. With the Canibus thing, he seemed to feel like he was jocking him too much.
There was also a rumor that the issues between Em and Canibus stem from Canibus accusing Eminem of ghost-writing LL's response records when they were feuding. Don't know how true that was is though.
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final answer, truthful answer: becuz nobody cared
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final answer, truthful answer: becuz nobody cared
Says the ignorant rap fan with Juicy J and Three Six Mafia in his sig. This thread was for the real hip-hopheadz who are intelligent enough to understand more complex lyrics
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Probably because he wasn't dissing LL, just acknowledging the fact he has a tat of a mic on his arm. Although I believe that line sparked some tension which lead to em's future beef with canibus.
If you ask me Canibus line wasn't a diss either. But yet, LL jumped all over the opportunity to diss Canibus. He wasn't so eager when it came to Em.
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Well, a few things....
The line in question is a knowing nod to the LL-Canibus battle. It's Em having a sense of humor about it.
The LL-Canibus thing was a little more detailed than just the Canibus line. Canibus had the verse on a song with LL, Redman, Meth, and DMX. L heard it and responded on his verse and told Canibus, who was still young in the game that if he changed the line, nobody would even know what LL was talking about on his. It was Canibus who sparked it further by recording a whole diss record in response to LL doing the line.
With Em, it was quite different. Though if we're talking lines about LL coming from Eminem, I would say that line about "Roscoe beating James Todd, Senior with vacuum cleaner attachments" was far more vicious on a personal level but L has said he always understood and appreciated that Eminem was a fan. With the Canibus thing, he seemed to feel like he was jocking him too much.
There was also a rumor that the issues between Em and Canibus stem from Canibus accusing Eminem of ghost-writing LL's response records when they were feuding. Don't know how true that was is though.
Funny thing is I still remember a little internet interview Eminem did where fans got to ask questions, this was around the time Slim Shady LP first dropped. It was an interesting interview because at the time he was actually beefing with Proof which many people would forget ever happened. I wouldn't be surprised if Proof felt slighted for Em featuring Royce on his album with no appearance from Proof and D12.
In the interview they asked Eminem who his favorite rapper was and his answer: CANIBUS
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final answer, truthful answer: becuz nobody cared
Says the ignorant rap fan with Juicy J and Three Six Mafia in his sig. This thread was for the real hip-hopheadz who are intelligent enough to understand more complex lyrics
lol tha fuck kinda white boy response is that? nobody cared... get over it
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Beef was over Can-I-bus copying LL's mic on arm tattoo.
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lol tha fuck kinda white boy response is that? nobody cared... get over it
Go get your "light-skinned" girl... and leave this thread to the people who do care
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Well, a few things....
The line in question is a knowing nod to the LL-Canibus battle. It's Em having a sense of humor about it.
The LL-Canibus thing was a little more detailed than just the Canibus line. Canibus had the verse on a song with LL, Redman, Meth, and DMX. L heard it and responded on his verse and told Canibus, who was still young in the game that if he changed the line, nobody would even know what LL was talking about on his. It was Canibus who sparked it further by recording a whole diss record in response to LL doing the line.
With Em, it was quite different. Though if we're talking lines about LL coming from Eminem, I would say that line about "Roscoe beating James Todd, Senior with vacuum cleaner attachments" was far more vicious on a personal level but L has said he always understood and appreciated that Eminem was a fan. With the Canibus thing, he seemed to feel like he was jocking him too much.
There was also a rumor that the issues between Em and Canibus stem from Canibus accusing Eminem of ghost-writing LL's response records when they were feuding. Don't know how true that was is though.
Thats LLs story. Canibus always said L told him take the line out n L would redo his verse. Bis agreed took the line out yet when he finally heard the finished version L kept his og verse in dissin him. Thats what caused Bis to respond.
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Reason he aint say shit to Em was because he had Dre n Jimmy Iovine behind him. Canibus had Wyclef behind him. Niggas know who to get into it with n who to avoid in the industry.
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Eminem has made no bones about the fact that LL was the one who inspired him to rap from watching the "I'm Bad" video, and he even claimed that LL's autobio is the only book he has ever read (which would be where he got the vacuum cleaner attachment reference). So I'm sure LL likes being paid that level of respect.
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final answer, truthful answer: becuz nobody cared
Says the ignorant rap fan with Juicy J and Three Six Mafia in his sig. This thread was for the real hip-hopheadz who are intelligent enough to understand more complex lyrics
3 6 Mafia been around since '88
and there isn't much complex about writing about LL's tattoo
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lol tha fuck kinda white boy response is that? nobody cared... get over it
Go get your "light-skinned" girl... and leave this thread to the people who do care
LOL!
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final answer, truthful answer: becuz nobody cared
Says the ignorant rap fan with Juicy J and Three Six Mafia in his sig. This thread was for the real hip-hopheadz who are intelligent enough to understand more complex lyrics
3 6 Mafia been around since '88
and there isn't much complex about writing about LL's tattoo
1991
http://www.youtube.com/v/vg7K_URy9Qk
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paul said he and juicy j were both doing their own tapes in 1988
they competed with DJ Squeeky back then
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final answer, truthful answer: becuz nobody cared
Says the ignorant rap fan with Juicy J and Three Six Mafia in his sig. This thread was for the real hip-hopheadz who are intelligent enough to understand more complex lyrics
Do you actually consider yourself a real hip-hop head, like for real, Infinite?
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i actually like Juicy J and three 6 mafia, Juicy J has blown up and is every where like lil wayne or drake, and yeah he's really rapping about NOTHING....but it's enjoyable . always has been, always will be. I wouldn't discredit someone as a "hip hop head" because they like juicy J/three 6.
music, i have learned, is like a good meal. three corses and a desert.
you can't eat nothing but chicken breast and broccoli all the time (unless you're body building ; but that's a different thread i want to post about later ;) )
but in the same sense , you can't eat birthday cake all the time either.
I consider Juicy J that good piece of home made birthday cake after a good meal. not to be confused with the rest of that garbage ass foodmaxx sheet cake rappers that's on the radio right now.
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Gotta love when people try to prove how Hip Hop they are by bashing another group/artist.
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well it depends
if all you listen to is 2chainz and all that .....i really don't respect that person's opinion on music....alll they're eating is birthday cake over and over again...that's like taking fitness advice from a fat ass.
but if you listen to 2chainz but also have pallet for higher quality rappers and even listen to other respectible genres of music....then i really can't hate on you.
like i said earlier, you have to take everything in balance.
Music is food for the soul.
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That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm not talking about what you listen to. I'm saying when you have that guy who wants to prove he's real by bashing another artist.
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i understood your point.
i still think it depends.
that is lame if you go around bashing people to "proove" how much of a "hip hop head" you are....and i'm talking from a seeking-out, malicious way...that's some pencil dick shit right there
but i mean if you're going to diss somebody i still think that depends. if someone rattles off that THEE top 5 rappers are radio rappers 1-5.....and that's all you listen to is radio rap....then your opinion is really uneducated and you deserve whatever diss comes at you.
however if you're a well rounded person with a bunch of different tastes and you say you like radio rappers 3 and 5 , i think your opinion becomes a little more interesting and valid.
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I'll agree to an extent. My brother in law graduated from High School in June. In his Yearbook they listed the top 10 artists and A.S.A.P. Rocky was number 1. I told him that they have a huge lack of taste.
But then it occurred to me. While I may think Ice Cube is one if the best ever, I don't know how many kids in High School would agree. Taste is subjective. This site is proof. Guys who swear by Daz will talk down on a guy like Juicy J. It boils down to preferences.
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final answer, truthful answer: becuz nobody cared
Says the ignorant rap fan with Juicy J and Three Six Mafia in his sig. This thread was for the real hip-hopheadz who are intelligent enough to understand more complex lyrics
Do you actually consider yourself a real hip-hop head, like for real, Infinite?
yes.. and much more so than you
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That's some funny ass shit.
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brian, you may be a "hip hop specialist" so to speak, when it comes to a small group of rappers (it seems that 2pac and eminem are your favorites?)
but the way you write off 3 6 Mafia and Brotha Lynch Hung without even knowing their music or what city they rep is proof that you are far too ignorant to consider yourself a true hip hop head. and i'm just sticking to those 2 as examples.
I know Juicy J is a sellout ass loser now but he's responsible for some of the dopest music ever.
and despite your friend Sccit telling you forever that Brotha Lynch was dope as hell you said you didn't want to listen to him because he was a "Bay area artist" (Which he is not).
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you have to take everything in balance
Shit just got real.
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I know Juicy J is a sellout ass loser now but he's responsible for some of the dopest music ever.
3-6 Mafia as a whole (really just DJ Paul and Juice) left their whole Underground Rowdy Street personas behind close to 10 years ago. They had a reality show! I wouldn't even say Juice is a sellout, this is the direction the group went in.
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funny how they go from making several albums with songs about worshipping satan to songs with miley cyrus and reality tv shows lol
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i actually like Juicy J and three 6 mafia, Juicy J has blown up and is every where like lil wayne or drake, and yeah he's really rapping about NOTHING....but it's enjoyable . always has been, always will be. I wouldn't discredit someone as a "hip hop head" because they like juicy J/three 6.
music, i have learned, is like a good meal. three corses and a desert.
you can't eat nothing but chicken breast and broccoli all the time (unless you're body building ; but that's a different thread i want to post about later ;) )
but in the same sense , you can't eat birthday cake all the time either.
I consider Juicy J that good piece of home made birthday cake after a good meal. not to be confused with the rest of that garbage ass foodmaxx sheet cake rappers that's on the radio right now.
nicely put
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one of hip hop gayest beefs ll queer j was just looking for some young cat to yam on to try and get relevant