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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Action! on March 19, 2011, 10:05:35 PM
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I hate stating that being such a big fan of 50. I've always admitted his production is fire and that he knows what sound works for but always critiqued him as less than average MC vocally. Some thing has changed. Is this my ears or has he stepped up?
Two examples,
The Perfectionist bars,
Hustle out of necessity, father never corrected me
streets showed me no sympathy, Audemar my accessory, huh
never accurate, I'm aiming at your Acura
heart rate accelerates on other amateurs
All my women photogenic they never depreciate
Pop up in ya city, it’s strictly about the cake
Quarters to half’s on my road to the riches
All real niggas just playing different positions
I’m allergic to failure, heroin paraphernalia
Frank Lucas furs at the fight on my cellular
Ball like Mayweather, Don King at the register
I stack cheddar, it’s etcetera, etcetera
Then his guest feature on Pusha T's I Still Wanna,
Grew up watching momma car repoed
a little nigga starting through the peep hole
how you think I felt knowing daddy wasn't there?
recycling cans caused nobody ever cared
get it how you live always echoed in the streets
when we talking business talking on the phone ceased
Feds listening to conversations through my on-star
piecing puzzles together solving homicides advised
dice game cheddar better bring your stash out
red velour, I'm in the white glass house
half a ticket bitches quick to drop it on the scale
50 a dope, a real nigga sell Yale
every day a nigga die and we can't ask why
show more love, the bitches fucked on the side
Tony Montana tailored made suits in the church
Rolls-Royce court niche, trunk full of work
This duke done become a picture painter. Both verses are ill. Content wise especially reminds me of 50 spitting on Hate It Or Love It. 50 also came correct on that Pusha T track.
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Trick question. He didn't.
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remember cham used to talk shit about buddens before he got all into him. Give him a year and he'll be stanning for maybach music and puttin rozay in his sig
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his raps might be better on paper but dude has horrible vocals.
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his delivery is quite grating...it sounds like hes gargling hot fish grease or some shit.
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remember cham used to talk shit about buddens before he got all into him. Give him a year and he'll be stanning for maybach music and puttin rozay in his sig
Son stays bringing up other rappers. L.
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remember cham used to talk shit about buddens before he got all into him. Give him a year and he'll be stanning for maybach music and puttin rozay in his sig
Son stays bringing up other rappers. L.
you're the king of Ls.
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remember cham used to talk shit about buddens before he got all into him. Give him a year and he'll be stanning for maybach music and puttin rozay in his sig
Son stays bringing up other rappers. L.
you're the king of Ls.
Because you & the other three coolest children on the internet developed personal feelings of dislike to me over the web? Suuuuck it, herb.
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you need to stop getting emotional 8)
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I don't mind Ross on guest features, but after a couple songs in a solo
Album his vocals bore me to death
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Wale, Roccett and Pill probably ghost wrote those bars for Ross.
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Ross can bring some heat. Though his flow can get boring, same with his subject matter. Luckily he has a great ear for beats, they definitely carry him through his albums imo.
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Ross is underrated I'n the outbound
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Ross is underrated I'n the outbound
This.
Action you're right, his lyrics are on point, I enjoy his fat-boy style vocals and adlibs that are sometimes comical, and his beat selection is impeccable.
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Just the two tracks I spoke of, everybody has listened to them?
He sounds dope to me on both of those. There's definitely a lot worse vocally. (It doesn't justify his subpar vocals, if that's what they are.) These two tracks are different to me.,
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The only song I like is Aston Martin Music. Mostly because of Drake's verse, the beat & Drake's hook.
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It was about damn time Action. Although I don't know what you're tendencies towards 50 have anything to do with Ross. I know your smart enough not to get caught up in that.
Speaking of Ross, he just signed Wale. Should be an interesting combo.
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Tho I have respect to thread starter I have to say that Rick Ross in my opinion never crossed that line and made me bump his songs more then once. Dude is average rapper and weak MC. ;D
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I hate stating that being such a big fan of 50
This might be the problem.
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Rick Ross been having bangers since 06!!
I see him slowing down tho
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i read the thread title and thought :stir:
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I've yet to hear a Ross verse I like.
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i like more of ross material then i dont like but i cant really sit through like a whole album of his lately...his voice and delivery is just a lil too overbearing.
i would love to find instrumental versions of his last three albums.
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remember cham used to talk shit about buddens before he got all into him. Give him a year and he'll be stanning for maybach music and puttin rozay in his sig
same thing with drake.
and in the future i see it happening for wiz too.
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I've yet to hear a Ross verse I like.
his verse on devil in a new dress was epic
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remember cham used to talk shit about buddens before he got all into him. Give him a year and he'll be stanning for maybach music and puttin rozay in his sig
same thing with drake.
and in the future i see it happening for wiz too.
Depends on the music they make...clearly.
Unlike some *COUGHCOUGHCOUGH*, I can judge an artist based off the body of work I'm listening too & not just say "I like him, he made this, therefore this is good".
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I've yet to hear a Ross verse I like.
his verse on devil in a new dress was epic
agreed he tore that shit down.
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Action is on point about "Perfectionist", Ross went the fuck in on that joint and I remember posting it here and everybody slept on it, even with "Prod. by Alchemist" in the title... Meek Mill def brought that flame out of him that track, and I agree about "Devil In A New Dress", easily outshined Kanye but then again who doesn't outshine Kanye lyrically
Ross is the man, hate it or love it *cough* 50
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remember cham used to talk shit about buddens before he got all into him. Give him a year and he'll be stanning for maybach music and puttin rozay in his sig
same thing with drake.
and in the future i see it happening for wiz too.
Depends on the music they make...clearly.
Unlike some *COUGHCOUGHCOUGH*, I can judge an artist based off the body of work I'm listening too & not just say "I like him, he made this, therefore this is good".
im not really sure what u mean
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It was about damn time Action. Although I don't know what you're tendencies towards 50 have anything to do with Ross. I know your smart enough not to get caught up in that.
Speaking of Ross, he just signed Wale. Should be an interesting combo.
I hate stating that being such a big fan of 50
This might be the problem.
I must admit that I do have certain tendencies to not like an artist when the image they present rubs me the wrong way. This just doesn't apply to Rick Ross but to other MCs like Asher Roth (I only recently starting like his art, GRIND was the song that grabbed my attention. I still don't like the majority of his debut).
First, I never listened to Rick Ross's music so I didn't care about him. Honestly, I never know who this duke was. Example, Immortal Technique freestyle over the Hustling beat and, at that time, I thought Technique used original produciton. I'm aware the single was huge for Ross but I don't pay much attention to the radio since I acquire an I-Pod. I only started to when the 50 Cent beef occurred. So, it's hard to not get caught up in that debacle when it's the REASON I started paying attention.
When that did happen, he rubbed me the wrong way because the entire "beef" between the two was rather embarrassing for Ross. I do have tendencies to ignore rappers whose life stories seem to be completely full of shit and they don't admit that. Yet, at that time, his music was getting better. His production was heavy but I still was not impressed lyrically or vocally. During the 50 Cent beef he just focused on his music more and took over with BMF, which while not my usual taste, I bumped because it got the club moving and basically took over as the summer single. What drunk mutherfucka wasn't chanting along to that?
When Monster was let loose by Kanye, I always enjoyed Ross's intro. Most people hated it but I thought it was a dope introduction. Then these two tracks I'm specifically talking on this thread, which really shifted my opinion more than anything else.
It's simple truths being highlighted. Is it complex lyrically? No, but it's real shit. Recycling cans cause nobody ever cared. How you think it felt knowing daddy wasn't there?
Real shit. It reminded me of 50 on Hate It Or Love It, Daddy ain't around, probably out committing felonies. My favorite rapper used to sing "ch-check out my melody." I want to live good so, shit! I'll sell dope.
I just like real shit. And, to me, his recent lyrics have been real shit.
Look, I still laugh at Rick Ross. I still find his disses against 50 Cent to be bullshit. I don't think he has any real grounds to have issues with 50...well now he does since 50 done embarrassed him so much. But, with all that said, it was the Kanye features, and his two recent tracks that made me go back and check out his music. I can say I enjoy Deeper than Rap & Teflon Don out of his discography despite them being rather absurdest.
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remember cham used to talk shit about buddens before he got all into him. Give him a year and he'll be stanning for maybach music and puttin rozay in his sig
same thing with drake.
and in the future i see it happening for wiz too.
Depends on the music they make...clearly.
Unlike some *COUGHCOUGHCOUGH*, I can judge an artist based off the body of work I'm listening too & not just say "I like him, he made this, therefore this is good".
im not really sure what u mean
Varying on what song or album I'm hearing, my opinion on an artist can change positively or negatively.
I don't listen to someone once, decide I like or dislike them & then stick with that mindset no matter what they drop.
I think I've made it clear I'm not the biggest fan of Gucci, but there are even songs from him I can fuck with.
I don't believe in Wiz's hype. His album could drop, it could be awesome & I'll be saying it's awesome. I'm not going to go out of my way to make it seem awful because of my current opinion on him.
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I've yet to hear a Ross verse I like.
his verse on devil in a new dress was epic
Epic = off topic? lol
It wasn't bad though.
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His flow on Perfectionist is sick. And that Alchemist beat is bananas. 8)
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that song the transporter is so damn hard.
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that song the transporter is so damn hard.
definitely
I been bumpin' "Pandemonium" as well lately
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Ross has got multis for days and an ear for beats, still aint feeling his flow and delivery though.
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I've found Ross has good songs to eat to.
A huge plate of pasta, shrimp scampi, a bottle of wine, 3 garlic bread sticks, a baked potato, 5-6 slices of prosciutto, and "Every Day I'm Hustling" on repeat= Dinner of the Gods.
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Trick question. He didn't.
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i use to hate on ross but hes always killin shit
that track made niggaz ft drake goess especially if u have a nice ride with a solid system
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remember cham used to talk shit about buddens before he got all into him. Give him a year and he'll be stanning for maybach music and puttin rozay in his sig
same thing with drake.
and in the future i see it happening for wiz too.
the nigga flip flops his opinion more than dre stans switch between loving and hating him. he'll hate a rapper at first who starts getting love, then in a month he's a fan.
plus he's a follower. He'll post first on songs saying its dope, then when everyone comes in and shits on it he'll say it ain't all that.
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remember cham used to talk shit about buddens before he got all into him. Give him a year and he'll be stanning for maybach music and puttin rozay in his sig
same thing with drake.
and in the future i see it happening for wiz too.
he'll hate a rapper at first who starts getting love, then in a month he's a fan.
I mean, if you can't do that & either just love everything or hate everything, you're just narrow-minded.
But lol @ dodging what I said. Troll. :D
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you ain't said shit homie. just commenting on your flip flopping ass. How you gonna be talking shit about someone then be on their dick a month later?
speakin of dodgin
plus he's a follower. He'll post first on songs saying its dope, then when everyone comes in and shits on it he'll say it ain't all that.
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you ain't said shit homie. just commenting on your flip flopping ass. How you gonna be talking shit about someone then be on their dick a month later?
Like when?
& to answer your question...simple. They make a song that I like. Like I said, only someone narrow-minded & flat out stupid can't change their opinion on someone.
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More proof of Ross's influence?
Weezy's "NEW" single is just Ross's I'm Not A Star. Embarrassing for Weezy.
Not fond of the song.
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More proof of Ross's influence?
No disrespect, but what does that mean? Having influence & being good don't necessarily go hand in hand.
Autotune influenced people, that wasn't good lol.
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Ross is just one of those guys I can't take seriously. I really don't like to admit it but he makes some hot songs, I just think this guy is such a clown.
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More proof of Ross's influence?
No disrespect, but what does that mean? Having influence & being good don't necessarily go hand in hand.
Autotune influenced people, that wasn't good lol.
don't hate on tha nigga when you know when his next album drops you'll be first in line
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naah dude is overrated as shit.
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Hes def got some dope shit, but i find it hard to listen to his albums start to finish
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More proof of Ross's influence?
Weezy's "NEW" single is just Ross's I'm Not A Star. Embarrassing for Weezy.
Not fond of the song.
Ross > Weezy as of now, and it's been that way for almost a year
that song isn't bad IMO but when it comes down to it, obviously "I"m Not A Star" >>>
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More proof of Ross's influence?
No disrespect, but what does that mean? Having influence & being good don't necessarily go hand in hand.
Autotune influenced people, that wasn't good lol.
don't hate on tha nigga when you know when his next album drops you'll be first in line
I've never liked a Ross album & unless he switches up his whole style I never will lol.
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More proof of Ross's influence?
No disrespect, but what does that mean? Having influence & being good don't necessarily go hand in hand.
Autotune influenced people, that wasn't good lol.
don't hate on tha nigga when you know when his next album drops you'll be first in line
I've never liked a Ross album & unless he switches up his whole style I never will lol.
that means nothing when you're known for flip flopping your opinion. Hating today, stanning tomorrow
Matter of fact, that should be your motto.....Chamillitary Click - Hater today, stan tomorrow
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^Like I said...you're narrow-minded.
You claimed I was going to do it with Wiz & that was a complete fail lol. Ross will only prove to be a bigger fail.
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^Like I said...you're narrow-minded.
You claimed I was going to do it with Wiz & that was a complete fail lol. Ross will only prove to be a bigger fail.
I didn't say it would be in a week you sensitive new york negro
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^Like I said...you're narrow-minded.
You claimed I was going to do it with Wiz & that was a complete fail lol. Ross will only prove to be a bigger fail.
I didn't say it would be in a week you sensitive new york negro
Yeah, maybe in a couple of months or his next body of work. Like I said (for the hundredth time), if you listen to one thing, dislike somebody & close your mind to any thought of change, that's not something to be proud over lol. It means your a subjective, ignorant lame lol. :loser:
I mean, I fucked with "Black & Yellow" (it's my ringtone). But I didn't think he could put out an album & of course he didn't.
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Rick Ross is a Entertainer .. he will be the better rapper ( in sucess ) in more 3 years .. his albums are in graduate DOPENESSS ..
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Ross has been dropping heat.
i got a cd full of tight tracks he put out lately.
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ROZAY!!!! lmaoooo that adlib kills me everytime.........but yeah, im with you man, i think hes the hottest out right now.......ever since BMF popped off, dudes been on a roll........big ups to him, considering he started out as just a ghostwriter......
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Rick Ross is wack and he represents everything that is wrong with rap music today
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I am a big fan of 50 but Rick Ross is dope... His last 2 albums were very good.
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Rick Ross is wack and he represents everything that is wrong with rap music today
Yup. Everything bout that nigga is bs. His subject matter is limited, lyrics are average, and he keeps puttin out stupid ass songs talkin bout other celebrities. Every song is namedroppin he even has the nerve to namedrop a famous drug dealer as his rap name. He lied about bein a cop for a good year then admitted to it and everybody just acted like that shit was cool. If he lied bout that what else he lyin bout? Funny thing is 90% of the industry accepts this shit like its cool. Nowadays niggas let anything slide. That nigga could put out a album right now called "Im not even a rapper, Im a undercover cop" and mothafuckas would go buy it. Why you think he called the album Deeper than Rap? People just lettin these goofballs like him n Wayne ruin rap and go unpunished. I wouldnt be surprised if the cover art for Carter 4 is a pic of Baby bustin in Weezy face with both of em with red bandanas on throwin up gang signs. Fucked up part is the shit would go 4x platinum.
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people who fawn over the latest Daz or Quik verse shouldn't be criticizing Rick Ross on lyrics
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people who fawn over the latest Daz or Quik verse shouldn't be criticizing Rick Ross on lyrics
Thank you.
Idiots like infinite call rick Ross everything that's wrong with hip hop but then call Daz a childhood hero. Thier is zero difference between Daz and Ross. Thier both fake gangsta rappers. They have the same lyrical ability though I might even give the nod to Ross.
The only difference is that Daz came out when they were growing up
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look at these videos, who's doing it bigger than the bawse? 8)
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If you can remove your personal feelings that hip-hop should be purely autobiography and allow yourself to enjoy it as a form of entertainment as one does a movie, Rick Ross is fantastic. There's all kind of hip-hop and I think it's good for people to recognize that "it's okay to have a fictional story teller." He's got a tremendous flow and has shown to be adequate with the pen, both of which has improved over time
With that said, Rozay is the shit for signing STALLEY. I'm really excited for both Stalley and, possibly, Wale's debut on Maybach Music Group.
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I cant remove myself from seein a rappin cop talk about how hes sellin keys im sorry. If I wanna hear drug rap ill put in an artist who actually did that shit like a TI or Cormega someone who actually knows highs and lows about that shit and isnt conveying the wrong message to the youth. Not some undercover Narc glorifying that shit to young children tryin to set them up for failure cuz thats what that fat bastard is doin. Nigga always talkin bout how he made millions off of cocaine in the video wit nice cars and women he only show you one side of that life and thats not right.