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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: YoungCrookedI on June 17, 2010, 08:09:48 AM
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http://www.dubcnn.com/media/audio/crookedi-underpressure/ or http://usershare.net/v9jxo0tki0v0 or http://planetcob.com/news/under-pressure-freestyle/
http://www.dubcnn.com/swf/mp3playerDub.swf?id=2010/june/crooked_i-under_pressure_freestyle-(dubcnn).mp3&artwork=crookedi-player.jpg&auto=1? quality=?high? pluginspage=?http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer? type=?application/x-shockwave-flash? width=?323? height=?180?
8) 8) 8) 8) happy b-day pac!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
there is a reason why crook is sayin: thank god for detox!!!!
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damn this is a dope freestyle puttin it down 4 pac tha best of all time fuk what abyone else gotta say
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crooked when he heard the track leaked : runs to the studio like crazy screaming "FIRRRRRRRRST"
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crooked when he heard the track leaked : runs to the studio like crazy screaming "FIRRRRRRRRST"
yeah and before that is it henny or cronic???
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:o
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+1
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Nothing new. Crook kill'd it!! God Damn 8) 8)
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crooked when he heard the track leaked : runs to the studio like crazy screaming "FIRRRRRRRRST"
hahaah
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get some better links ::)
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get some better links ::)
try this homie; http://www.zshare.net/audio/77340724ee80035d/
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Hot shit!
Better than the original.
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How did he get the instrumental
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Crooked I murdered both Dre and Jay on the track with his version. Showed him how to rock the beat.
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Actually, Crooked looked hell of lame for jumping on this track. He tells the world to move on from Detox then he is the first to jump on it's cock. I'm not even hating on his flow or his content, just the tactic. Crooked needs to create a hot single that stands for itself and speaks for him instead of resorting to lame publicity tactics like this.
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you know i dont like Dre like that...he is gay and cant produce, but when his shit gets finished and drops, its gonna sell 760 000 first week and when Crooked I shit drops, my great Grand children will be telling me about it in my deathbed/
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Actually, Crooked looked hell of lame for jumping on this track. He tells the world to move on from Detox then he is the first to jump on it's cock. I'm not even hating on his flow or his content, just the tactic. Crooked needs to create a hot single that stands for itself and speaks for him instead of resorting to lame publicity tactics like this.
i agree with what you said about him creating a single that stands for itself yell
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Well first of all, the beat is trash so a waste of a freestyle. But lol @ Crooked saying thank god for detox after telling us to move on.
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Well first of all, the beat is trash so a waste of a freestyle. But lol @ Crooked saying thank god for detox after telling us to move on.
your still not understanding that verse from move on after it was explained to you several times?
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Well first of all, the beat is trash so a waste of a freestyle. But lol @ Crooked saying thank god for detox after telling us to move on.
your still not understanding that verse from move on after it was explained to you several times?
"Back in Cali, niggas blaze and stress
Waiting on Detox to save the West
Even if the shit is dope it ain't giving you niggas hope
Unless your signature's wrote on the check from Interscope, nope
Move on"
now what the fuck is so hard about that?
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Thats was just a hot line. lol nothing more nothin less 8) 8)
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Well first of all, the beat is trash so a waste of a freestyle. But lol @ Crooked saying thank god for detox after telling us to move on.
your still not understanding that verse from move on after it was explained to you several times?
"Back in Cali, niggas blaze and stress
Waiting on Detox to save the West
Even if the shit is dope it ain't giving you niggas hope
Unless your signature's wrote on the check from Interscope, nope
Move on"
now what the fuck is so hard about that?
Thats exaclty the point Im making to you.Whats so hard to understand about it?Hes telling the westcoast to move on from the thought that the album is going to magically save the westcoast and that it isnt helping nayone that isnt directly involved in the album.Hes not saying the album is wack or that people shouldnt stop waiting for the album.Hes saying the westcoast should move on from the thought its going to save the west.Is that so hard to understand?Its all right there in plain english.Im not sure how you cant grasp that.
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Well first of all, the beat is trash so a waste of a freestyle. But lol @ Crooked saying thank god for detox after telling us to move on.
your still not understanding that verse from move on after it was explained to you several times?
"Back in Cali, niggas blaze and stress
Waiting on Detox to save the West
Even if the shit is dope it ain't giving you niggas hope
Unless your signature's wrote on the check from Interscope, nope
Move on"
now what the fuck is so hard about that?
Thats exaclty the point Im making to you.Whats so hard to understand about it?Hes telling the westcoast to move on from the thought that the album is going to magically save the westcoast and that it isnt helping nayone that isnt directly involved in the album.Hes not saying the album is wack or that people shouldnt stop waiting for the album.Hes saying the westcoast should move on from the thought its going to save the west.Is that so hard to understand?Its all right there in plain english.Im not sure how you cant grasp that.
And now he goes and says "Thank God for detox" "This is all I want to hear in the clubs for the next 6 months and that's a goddamn order." Like its the best shit ever to come out the west. Fucking hypocritical when its clear this is what he's been waiting for.
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Well first of all, the beat is trash so a waste of a freestyle. But lol @ Crooked saying thank god for detox after telling us to move on.
your still not understanding that verse from move on after it was explained to you several times?
"Back in Cali, niggas blaze and stress
Waiting on Detox to save the West
Even if the shit is dope it ain't giving you niggas hope
Unless your signature's wrote on the check from Interscope, nope
Move on"
now what the fuck is so hard about that?
Thats exaclty the point Im making to you.Whats so hard to understand about it?Hes telling the westcoast to move on from the thought that the album is going to magically save the westcoast and that it isnt helping nayone that isnt directly involved in the album.Hes not saying the album is wack or that people shouldnt stop waiting for the album.Hes saying the westcoast should move on from the thought its going to save the west.Is that so hard to understand?Its all right there in plain english.Im not sure how you cant grasp that.
And now he goes and says "Thank God for detox" "This is all I want to hear in the clubs for the next 6 months and that's a goddamn order." Like its the best shit ever to come out the west. Fucking hypocritical when its clear this is what he's been waiting for.
Again,how is that hypocritical?Who cares if he says thank god for detox?He wants to hear the music just like everyone else,that still doesnt have anything to do with his verse from move on.I dont agree with his opinion thats its a good song,but thats his to make.
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Crooked is hypocrite for this shit. There's no way around that. You don't tell people to move on from detox and then jump on the first leaked track that's semi-official. Honestly, Crooked is a straight bitch for this. This kind of shit that makes me shake my head. He comes off as a hater for telling people to move on and then a stan for jumping on detox's imaginary cock.
It's the tactic and the fact he's back tracking of it.
I shouldn't be surprised because this is crooked's gimmick. He hasn't been capable of producing an original single that catches people attention so he'll make lame excuses like he doesn't want to sell out but then he'll expose himself by jumping on this.
I don't even have a problem with the content of his material just the tactic.
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And, if you want proof he can't create some dope single material just look at the 52 week build up and then the failed delivery of a hot single. It was a wack track with akon.
It wasn't even the akon feature but the general shittiness of the track.
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Crooked is hypocrite for this shit. There's no way around that. You don't tell people to move on from detox and then jump on the first leaked track that's semi-official. Honestly, Crooked is a straight bitch for this. This kind of shit that makes me shake my head. He comes off as a hater for telling people to move on and then a stan for jumping on detox's imaginary cock.
It's the tactic and the fact he's back tracking of it.
I shouldn't be surprised because this is crooked's gimmick. He hasn't been capable of producing an original single that catches people attention so he'll make lame excuses like he doesn't want to sell out but then he'll expose himself by jumping on this.
I don't even have a problem with the content of his material just the tactic.
Lol,another person who allows a simple verse to go way over his head.hes not back tracking off anything.Ive already explained the verse I would ahve thought someone could have figured it out themselves.But again Ill explain it to you.Crooked said the westocoast should move on from the thought that detox would save the westcoast and that only people directly involved with the album would benefit,not the whole coast.Wether or not the album would be dope or it would sell or wether people should listen to it is not discussed so again how in the fuck is that hyprocritical?Smh at simple lyrics going over peoples heads.So explain how its hyproctical your making your self look idiotic again with a wrong over reaction.
"Back in Cali, niggas blaze and stress
Waiting on Detox to save the West
Even if the shit is dope it ain't giving you niggas hope
Unless your signature's wrote on the check from Interscope, nope
Move on"
So,hes saying people on the westcoast are waiting on detox to save the westcoast.Then he says even if the album is dope it isnt giving any aritists or people hope unless they are directly involved in the album and being paid by it.In short what he is saying is that westcoast artists think detox is going to drop and all of a sudden the westcoast will be on top again.But hes saying this isnt the case,people need to move on from the thought that the album is going to help them out.he is NOT saying move on from the album,he IS saying move on from the thought that the album is going to save the west.
In this freestyle hes saying detox will be dope and that he wants to see it blow up.
So again,I ask you,how do the verses have anything to do with eachother?How is the hypocritical?He isnt talking about the same thing.If you cant see this then I dont know what to tell your small mind.
Then again it seems you and rapsoide are quick to jump on crooked i for anything.Action calling his music generic gangsta rap then in the next thread praising 50 cent.You are the only hyprocrite around here action.
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wack. avarage here is why
1)Some parts he sounds like Joe Budden..specially talking all that psycho shit.."I grew up so fucked up i used to hate love" really? @45 years old, only Joe budden would say that.
2)Two....Namedropping? Leave that to Game.
3)No rhyme complexity...At First reading comments. i thought it was some Eminem or Crooked I old shit..This is weak lyrically.
4)Dre made this song talking about G shit, getting drunk and all..This nigga tried to make dictionary rap out of a club song.
Its like Immortal Technique getting on How We Do or Next Episode Beat trynna kick conspiracy theories knowledge into it.
Slaughterhouse fans still get together every saturday night around a glass of milk,playing monopoly and breaking down who killed the verse better Crooked 45 Year old I or Joe Vicodin Budden or Nerd Ass Joel IOWA Or-Fucking Tease...
fucking gay bro. ::)
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How did he get the instrumental
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:o
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How did he get the instrumental
um.. thats real question?
if so - by looping some parts of the beat i guess
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there's no hook, so it must be very easy to sample the beat. He just looped the empty hook part obviously
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Crook got down. I don't hear anyone else saluting the general on his birthday....
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Crook got down. I don't hear anyone else saluting the general on his birthday....
Amen. 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Actually, Crooked looked hell of lame for jumping on this track. He tells the world to move on from Detox then he is the first to jump on it's cock. I'm not even hating on his flow or his content, just the tactic. Crooked needs to create a hot single that stands for itself and speaks for him instead of resorting to lame publicity tactics like this.
Kind of agree with this. In fact, I fully agree with this. Like said - He tells everyone to move on from Detox yet is the first to jump on and do "another" rap over someone elses beat ::)
Crooked I has a hell of a lot of talent, both as a rapper and a writer, but with this freestyle, and the recent non-support to a full release of original material from him (which fans admired) he continues down the path of "mixtape" rapper. The more and more he raps over others beats, the more it'll be harder for him to get out of it. Boom Boom Clap, and other singular effort attempts is the direction he should be taking to create buzz. He done Hip Hop weekly, and that was 52 of other peoples beats, but don't keep it on that path because it only leads one way.
Fk this track, I don't care how hot this rap is, I already know how hot Crook is as a lyricist, shyt I knew it since his Dogg Pound/Death Row dayz over a decade ago. Keep it going with Slaughterhouse, and keep putting out those "own" songs. I'm sick, and like most- frustrated of hearing a talent like Crooked who has been in the game almost 20 years doing this school boy "amateur" tactics. It's a bit cringing. He's worked with Death Row, Murder Inc, Snoop, and DPG, people who put out regular albums effortlessly, and actually has/did have some top dog connections IE: Jay Z, Sway, and others. He really is an idiot when it comes to business, yet claims to be a BOSS? lol. If he had any brains he'd embrace the Hoodstar release, and allow the slap back release, to then to downplay it to allow for a Snoop collab to display new allegiance (it would work for both, Crook to hot lyrically for Snoop to fk with, and Snoop way bigger than Crook commercially) but again, we hear another freestyle over another beat, and will for many years to come
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Actually, Crooked looked hell of lame for jumping on this track. He tells the world to move on from Detox then he is the first to jump on it's cock. I'm not even hating on his flow or his content, just the tactic. Crooked needs to create a hot single that stands for itself and speaks for him instead of resorting to lame publicity tactics like this.
Kind of agree with this. In fact, I fully agree with this. Like said - He tells everyone to move on from Detox yet is the first to jump on and do "another" rap over someone elses beat ::)
Oh for the love of fucking God! How fuckin difficult it is to understand that Move On verse. He says rappers should stop worrying about Detox because it won't help them if they're just waiting for it to drop & save the west. Unless they're on the album or have written for it. He says even if the album is dope, it's not gonna help you because you're not on it. Now he says he wants Detox to blow & thanks that it's finally dropping as a fan. Not as an artist.
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And, if you want proof he can't create some dope single material just look at the 52 week build up and then the failed delivery of a hot single. It was a wack track with akon.
It wasn't even the akon feature but the general shittiness of the track.
lol
I'm with you on that one. There's so many of those bullshyt tracks that I manage to avoid because I don't keep up with all these wack sounding trash that comes out, despite it creating a little 'minute' buzz from online fans. Block Obama mixtapes was some of them, skippers due to the weak music behind it, or the fact the beats didn't relate to the lyrics. It doesn't have to be a musical master piece for me to listen to, but I can listen to an Immortal Technique mixtape all the way through, but not a Crooked I one, why is that? I know Crook is hot, but his mixtapes don't retain any interest or replay value besides a few tracks. His DR material however...........
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Actually, Crooked looked hell of lame for jumping on this track. He tells the world to move on from Detox then he is the first to jump on it's cock. I'm not even hating on his flow or his content, just the tactic. Crooked needs to create a hot single that stands for itself and speaks for him instead of resorting to lame publicity tactics like this.
Kind of agree with this. In fact, I fully agree with this. Like said - He tells everyone to move on from Detox yet is the first to jump on and do "another" rap over someone elses beat ::)
Oh for the love of fucking God! How fuckin difficult it is to understand that Move On verse. He says rappers should stop worrying about Detox because it won't help them if they're just waiting for it to drop & save the west. Unless they're on the album or have written for it. He says even if the album is dope, it's not gonna help you because you're not on it. Now he says he wants Detox to blow & thanks that it's finally dropping as a fan. Not as an artist.
Thank you lol.
I think that's why Slaughterhouse gets so much hate on here, people can't understand the lyrics; it's too much or something.
Next time people on here support Lil' B or Gucci Mane, I'll understand why; it's nice & simple.
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Yeh but he's saying for people not to wait on Detox to save the West, yet he's using a pre-finished Detox track to try and gain exposure for his own career, and of course to presumably "save" the West. since claiming to be "New West"!!!
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Yeh but he's saying for people not to wait on Detox to save the West, yet he's using a pre-finished Detox track to try and gain exposure for his own career, and of course to presumably "save" the West. since claiming to be "New West"!!!
lol, "gain exposure".
Honestly, how many people you think will ever hear this freestyle?
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umm crooked ALWAYS jacks beats.... are you fucks new or something?
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umm crooked ALWAYS jacks beats.... are you fucks new or something?
As does every other rapper in the industry, lol...
This is just the usual Crooked hate.
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Actually, Crooked looked hell of lame for jumping on this track. He tells the world to move on from Detox then he is the first to jump on it's cock. I'm not even hating on his flow or his content, just the tactic. Crooked needs to create a hot single that stands for itself and speaks for him instead of resorting to lame publicity tactics like this.
Kind of agree with this. In fact, I fully agree with this. Like said - He tells everyone to move on from Detox yet is the first to jump on and do "another" rap over someone elses beat ::)
Oh for the love of fucking God! How fuckin difficult it is to understand that Move On verse. He says rappers should stop worrying about Detox because it won't help them if they're just waiting for it to drop & save the west. Unless they're on the album or have written for it. He says even if the album is dope, it's not gonna help you because you're not on it. Now he says he wants Detox to blow & thanks that it's finally dropping as a fan. Not as an artist.
Thank you lol.
I think that's why Slaughterhouse gets so much hate on here, people can't understand the lyrics; it's too much or something.
Next time people on here support Lil' B or Gucci Mane, I'll understand why; it's nice & simple.
Nothing about Slaughterhouse is complex. They spit clever punchlines that are easy to understand and straight to the point. It's like you and Jaydc are playing your retard card with the lyrics just to defend dude. Fact: first he says Move on, Detox ain't gonna save the west. Now he's saying Thank God Detox is here, play this shit in all the clubs. If you don't find that the least bit hypocritical then somethings wrong with you.
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^J.E. was on point, it's him saying "thank god" as a fan; not as "thank god, the West is saved!".
We all know you hate this beat with a burning passion & always had a thing against Crooked I, so add those two together & I wouldn't expect you to have anything positive to say anyway lol.
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Actually, Crooked looked hell of lame for jumping on this track. He tells the world to move on from Detox then he is the first to jump on it's cock. I'm not even hating on his flow or his content, just the tactic. Crooked needs to create a hot single that stands for itself and speaks for him instead of resorting to lame publicity tactics like this.
Kind of agree with this. In fact, I fully agree with this. Like said - He tells everyone to move on from Detox yet is the first to jump on and do "another" rap over someone elses beat ::)
Oh for the love of fucking God! How fuckin difficult it is to understand that Move On verse. He says rappers should stop worrying about Detox because it won't help them if they're just waiting for it to drop & save the west. Unless they're on the album or have written for it. He says even if the album is dope, it's not gonna help you because you're not on it. Now he says he wants Detox to blow & thanks that it's finally dropping as a fan. Not as an artist.
Thank you lol.
I think that's why Slaughterhouse gets so much hate on here, people can't understand the lyrics; it's too much or something.
Next time people on here support Lil' B or Gucci Mane, I'll understand why; it's nice & simple.
Nothing about Slaughterhouse is complex. They spit clever punchlines that are easy to understand and straight to the point. It's like you and Jaydc are playing your retard card with the lyrics just to defend dude. Fact: first he says Move on, Detox ain't gonna save the west. Now he's saying Thank God Detox is here, play this shit in all the clubs. If you don't find that the least bit hypocritical then somethings wrong with you.
Its pretty evident your acting like a retard and choosing to ignore the lyrics meaning however simple they were.Your reaching far too hard.Just admit you didnt understand the lyrics and move on.He didnt say move on from the album,he said move on from the thought the album will save the west.And now hes celebrating the album from a fans perspective,he isnt saying than god its heard the album is going to save the westcoast.If he said that,then that would be hyproctical,but again,he isnt.Your just choosing to be ignorant.
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^J.E. was on point, it's him saying "thank god" as a fan; not as "thank god, the West is saved!".
We all know you hate this beat with a burning passion & always had a thing against Crooked I, so add those two together & I wouldn't expect you to have anything positive to say anyway lol.
lol, yeah I guess because I don't think he's GOAT like you do I have something against him. If you've followed my posts, you know I've defended and criticized him equally. Two things I dislike are stans and haters and I go after them both. I dare you to come up with a rapper I will never criticize or make fun of for doing something stupid. There isn't one, because no one has a perfect career and I seem to be the only guy here who is a stan of no one. I left that shit behind just like I left high school.
What stans don't seem to get is that I'm a real fan of Crooked I. The reason I critique him is because I WANT him to succeed. I WANT him to drop that classic debut. I want the best for any rapper I like to listen to. The guy can spit his ass off, and I enjoy hearing his freestyles. Unfortunately, his original material usually isn't as good. So when I see something that can be improved upon I'm going to point it out. No matter who it is.
Reason I'm so passionate about it is because I WANT his shit to come out. Dude has been in the game for years and hasn't dropped a single album. I'm fucking pissed off about that. Who the fuck wouldn't be? It annoys me off that he can't get his shit together long enough to put out an album. When I look at at Crooked I, I see a straight spitter with a lot of talent who hasn't lived up to his potential yet. Maybe you are content to listen to freestyles over other people's beats. Maybe that's all you want out of Crooked. Fuck that, I want to hear an original album from him at his best. And I want it to go hard. Until that day I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing.
Yeah, that was a rant but oh well. Was a long time coming. This same thing goes for any other rapper I listen to. Sick of stans thinking I have it out for a rapper just because I'm willing to criticize them. Fyi Jaydc, no, I don't have it out for Nas just because I think his discography is inconsistent as fuck. ;D
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And, if you want proof he can't create some dope single material just look at the 52 week build up and then the failed delivery of a hot single. It was a wack track with akon.
It wasn't even the akon feature but the general shittiness of the track.
lol
I'm with you on that one. There's so many of those bullshyt tracks that I manage to avoid because I don't keep up with all these wack sounding trash that comes out, despite it creating a little 'minute' buzz from online fans. Block Obama mixtapes was some of them, skippers due to the weak music behind it, or the fact the beats didn't relate to the lyrics. It doesn't have to be a musical master piece for me to listen to, but I can listen to an Immortal Technique mixtape all the way through, but not a Crooked I one, why is that? I know Crook is hot, but his mixtapes don't retain any interest or replay value besides a few tracks. His DR material however...........
His deathrow material sucked.Hes ten times the artist now then he was then.
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^J.E. was on point, it's him saying "thank god" as a fan; not as "thank god, the West is saved!".
We all know you hate this beat with a burning passion & always had a thing against Crooked I, so add those two together & I wouldn't expect you to have anything positive to say anyway lol.
lol, yeah I guess because I don't think he's GOAT like you do I have something against him. If you've followed my posts, you know I've defended and criticized him equally. Two things I dislike are stans and haters and I go after them both. I dare you to come up with a rapper I will never criticize or make fun of for doing something stupid. There isn't one, because no one has a perfect career and I seem to be the only guy here who is a stan of no one. I left that shit behind just like I left high school.
What stans don't seem to get is that I'm a real fan of Crooked I. The reason I critique him is because I WANT him to succeed. I WANT him to drop that classic debut. I want the best for any rapper I like to listen to. The guy can spit his ass off, and I enjoy hearing his freestyles. Unfortunately, his original material usually isn't as good. So when I see something that can be improved upon I'm going to point it out. No matter who it is.
Reason I'm so passionate about it is because I WANT his shit to come out. Dude has been in the game for years and hasn't dropped a single album. I'm fucking pissed off about that. Who the fuck wouldn't be? It annoys me off that he can't get his shit together long enough to put out an album. When I look at at Crooked I, I see a straight spitter with a lot of talent who hasn't lived up to his potential yet. Maybe you are content to listen to freestyles over other people's beats. Maybe that's all you want out of Crooked. Fuck that, I want to hear an original album from him at his best. And I want it to go hard. Until that day I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing.
Yeah, that was a rant but oh well. Was a long time coming. This same thing goes for any other rapper I listen to. Sick of stans thinking I have it out for a rapper just because I'm willing to criticize them. Fyi Jaydc, no, I don't have it out for Nas just because I think his discography is inconsistent as fuck. ;D
That's fantastic..
Honestly, respect.
None of that changes what Crooked meant in those lines. :P
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Hopefully his new slaughter house deal with Shady Records will give him a nice boost.
Goal: Slaughterhouse album on Shady/Aftermath Records with in-house Dr. Dre production.
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dudes get mad after hearing a verse yall are women to me man
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Yeh but he's saying for people not to wait on Detox to save the West, yet he's using a pre-finished Detox track to try and gain exposure for his own career, and of course to presumably "save" the West. since claiming to be "New West"!!!
lol, "gain exposure".
Honestly, how many people you think will ever hear this freestyle?
notice he said "try to"
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Yeh but he's saying for people not to wait on Detox to save the West, yet he's using a pre-finished Detox track to try and gain exposure for his own career, and of course to presumably "save" the West. since claiming to be "New West"!!!
lol, "gain exposure".
Honestly, how many people you think will ever hear this freestyle?
notice he said "try to"
lol, he did; but still, Crooked did this for 52 weeks straight & it didn't do anything lol.
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^J.E. was on point, it's him saying "thank god" as a fan; not as "thank god, the West is saved!".
We all know you hate this beat with a burning passion & always had a thing against Crooked I, so add those two together & I wouldn't expect you to have anything positive to say anyway lol.
lol, yeah I guess because I don't think he's GOAT like you do I have something against him. If you've followed my posts, you know I've defended and criticized him equally. Two things I dislike are stans and haters and I go after them both. I dare you to come up with a rapper I will never criticize or make fun of for doing something stupid. There isn't one, because no one has a perfect career and I seem to be the only guy here who is a stan of no one. I left that shit behind just like I left high school.
What stans don't seem to get is that I'm a real fan of Crooked I. The reason I critique him is because I WANT him to succeed. I WANT him to drop that classic debut. I want the best for any rapper I like to listen to. The guy can spit his ass off, and I enjoy hearing his freestyles. Unfortunately, his original material usually isn't as good. So when I see something that can be improved upon I'm going to point it out. No matter who it is.
Reason I'm so passionate about it is because I WANT his shit to come out. Dude has been in the game for years and hasn't dropped a single album. I'm fucking pissed off about that. Who the fuck wouldn't be? It annoys me off that he can't get his shit together long enough to put out an album. When I look at at Crooked I, I see a straight spitter with a lot of talent who hasn't lived up to his potential yet. Maybe you are content to listen to freestyles over other people's beats. Maybe that's all you want out of Crooked. Fuck that, I want to hear an original album from him at his best. And I want it to go hard. Until that day I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing.
Yeah, that was a rant but oh well. Was a long time coming. This same thing goes for any other rapper I listen to. Sick of stans thinking I have it out for a rapper just because I'm willing to criticize them. Fyi Jaydc, no, I don't have it out for Nas just because I think his discography is inconsistent as fuck. ;D
That's fantastic..
Honestly, respect.
None of that changes what Crooked meant in those lines. :P
Directed at you, since you insisted on implying I have something against Crooked I. And you tend to do that frequently.
Back on topic. You are doing what is called selective listening. Yes, he says in the song we should move on from thinking Detox is going to save the west. But to now act all crazy about it now that a song has leaked is clearly hypocritical. Its right there in the song.
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How did he get the instrumental
Thats what I'm wondering.
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And, if you want proof he can't create some dope single material just look at the 52 week build up and then the failed delivery of a hot single. It was a wack track with akon.
It wasn't even the akon feature but the general shittiness of the track.
lol
I'm with you on that one. There's so many of those bullshyt tracks that I manage to avoid because I don't keep up with all these wack sounding trash that comes out, despite it creating a little 'minute' buzz from online fans. Block Obama mixtapes was some of them, skippers due to the weak music behind it, or the fact the beats didn't relate to the lyrics. It doesn't have to be a musical master piece for me to listen to, but I can listen to an Immortal Technique mixtape all the way through, but not a Crooked I one, why is that? I know Crook is hot, but his mixtapes don't retain any interest or replay value besides a few tracks. His DR material however...........
His deathrow material sucked.Hes ten times the artist now then he was then.
I tend to disagree. The majority (as many past and recent polls would indicate) would rather hear his Untouchable album or other Death Row unheard material over BO$$ or anything else he ever done on Treacherous. He also had better artistic development and direction with Tha Row than he does now. He's a well rounded artist today, and is still as talented today as he was then, but certain attributes such as his flow, rawness and delivery were a bit more polished back then, just IMO though. He does show how to put it down on that under pressure beat, and again shows just how talented he is, but he needs better advise and direction. At least on DR he mostly rapped freestyles over original production, and not just the next mans hottest flavor of the month. The HHW thing had concept and that's reasonable, but these random shit outs of mixtape amateur tracks do nothing to solidify his image as a boss, or professional veteran in the rap game that one would expect from someone in it for almost 20 years with the portfolio he has. That's not hate, that's just the way it is, from a genuine Crooked I fan who wishes him the best to succeed in his career.
Slaughterhouse, Hoodstar album, 'original' mixtape work, and million dollar story promo are things he should be focusing on and trying to rebuild a confidence to the fans that he's capable of much more than a Papoose, or a Cyssero that the fans believe he is
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Actually, Crooked looked hell of lame for jumping on this track. He tells the world to move on from Detox then he is the first to jump on it's cock. I'm not even hating on his flow or his content, just the tactic. Crooked needs to create a hot single that stands for itself and speaks for him instead of resorting to lame publicity tactics like this.
Kind of agree with this. In fact, I fully agree with this. Like said - He tells everyone to move on from Detox yet is the first to jump on and do "another" rap over someone elses beat ::)
Oh for the love of fucking God! How fuckin difficult it is to understand that Move On verse. He says rappers should stop worrying about Detox because it won't help them if they're just waiting for it to drop & save the west. Unless they're on the album or have written for it. He says even if the album is dope, it's not gonna help you because you're not on it. Now he says he wants Detox to blow & thanks that it's finally dropping as a fan. Not as an artist.
The move on verse was just not a mcs and rappers, it was directed towards the entire west coast, to any fan of west coast music.
You fail to grasp the content of Move On and thus you fail to see why he's a hypocrite. You don't tell people to move on from something and then be the first to support it. He's acting like Game.
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And, Crooked's material form his Death Row era was cliche gangsta rap and some of his material today is cliche gangsta rap.
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Actually, Crooked looked hell of lame for jumping on this track. He tells the world to move on from Detox then he is the first to jump on it's cock. I'm not even hating on his flow or his content, just the tactic. Crooked needs to create a hot single that stands for itself and speaks for him instead of resorting to lame publicity tactics like this.
Kind of agree with this. In fact, I fully agree with this. Like said - He tells everyone to move on from Detox yet is the first to jump on and do "another" rap over someone elses beat ::)
Oh for the love of fucking God! How fuckin difficult it is to understand that Move On verse. He says rappers should stop worrying about Detox because it won't help them if they're just waiting for it to drop & save the west. Unless they're on the album or have written for it. He says even if the album is dope, it's not gonna help you because you're not on it. Now he says he wants Detox to blow & thanks that it's finally dropping as a fan. Not as an artist.
The move on verse was just not a mcs and rappers, it was directed towards the entire west coast, to any fan of west coast music.
You fail to grasp the content of Move On and thus you fail to see why he's a hypocrite. You don't tell people to move on from something and then be the first to support it. He's acting like Game.
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And, Crooked's material form his Death Row era was cliche gangsta rap and some of his material today is cliche gangsta rap.
Amen. Any remember "I'm a Gangsta" with Yukmouth and Ray J? Talk about one dimensional cliche gangsta rap. His verse of being a boss, cars, having money, bitches etc. Both era's have their fair share of exaggerated and fictional self-character raps. I Love The Ghetto To Death, Lil Youngsters, suffered too long etc. His days over there are over looked a bit in terms of diversity in themes. His song writing has never been rusty. 2010 alone proves that
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At least on DR he mostly rapped freestyles over original production, and not just the next mans hottest flavor of the month. The HHW thing had concept and that's reasonable, but these random shit outs of mixtape amateur tracks do nothing to solidify his image as a boss, or professional veteran in the rap game that one would expect from someone in it for almost 20 years with the portfolio he has. That's not hate, that's just the way it is, from a genuine Crooked I fan who wishes him the best to succeed in his career.
Slaughterhouse, Hoodstar album, 'original' mixtape work, and million dollar story promo are things he should be focusing on and trying to rebuild a confidence to the fans that he's capable of much more than a Papoose, or a Cyssero that the fans believe he is
^^^^^^this, even tho crooked is one of the illest spit'n bar none, just to see him do the same tricc over and over has wore off on me, i want to see him create his own shit where people are trying to jump on his shit and follow him instead of the other way around, hip hop weekly was impressive but like i said when it was going on if he doesn't have an album ready to go after that,it's basically all for not,i respect the slaughterhouse record but i'm still waiting to hear a focused crooked solo project with a great executive producer (doesn't need to be a big name star,just somebody who can get the best outta the equal) yell
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Some of the best material he's ever spat on comes from the likes of LT Hutton, Big Hutch, & Darren Vegas. I wouldn't mind seeing some of those producers on his own debut
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Actually, Crooked looked hell of lame for jumping on this track. He tells the world to move on from Detox then he is the first to jump on it's cock. I'm not even hating on his flow or his content, just the tactic. Crooked needs to create a hot single that stands for itself and speaks for him instead of resorting to lame publicity tactics like this.
Kind of agree with this. In fact, I fully agree with this. Like said - He tells everyone to move on from Detox yet is the first to jump on and do "another" rap over someone elses beat ::)
Oh for the love of fucking God! How fuckin difficult it is to understand that Move On verse. He says rappers should stop worrying about Detox because it won't help them if they're just waiting for it to drop & save the west. Unless they're on the album or have written for it. He says even if the album is dope, it's not gonna help you because you're not on it. Now he says he wants Detox to blow & thanks that it's finally dropping as a fan. Not as an artist.
The move on verse was just not a mcs and rappers, it was directed towards the entire west coast, to any fan of west coast music.
You fail to grasp the content of Move On and thus you fail to see why he's a hypocrite. You don't tell people to move on from something and then be the first to support it. He's acting like Game.
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And, Crooked's material form his Death Row era was cliche gangsta rap and some of his material today is cliche gangsta rap.
Even though its been broken down to you in simple terms you still choose to act ignorant.I guess sometimes people just love to hate even though its been pointed out out to them they are in fact wrong.
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And, if you want proof he can't create some dope single material just look at the 52 week build up and then the failed delivery of a hot single. It was a wack track with akon.
It wasn't even the akon feature but the general shittiness of the track.
lol
I'm with you on that one. There's so many of those bullshyt tracks that I manage to avoid because I don't keep up with all these wack sounding trash that comes out, despite it creating a little 'minute' buzz from online fans. Block Obama mixtapes was some of them, skippers due to the weak music behind it, or the fact the beats didn't relate to the lyrics. It doesn't have to be a musical master piece for me to listen to, but I can listen to an Immortal Technique mixtape all the way through, but not a Crooked I one, why is that? I know Crook is hot, but his mixtapes don't retain any interest or replay value besides a few tracks. His DR material however...........
His deathrow material sucked.Hes ten times the artist now then he was then.
I tend to disagree. The majority (as many past and recent polls would indicate) would rather hear his Untouchable album or other Death Row unheard material over BO$$ or anything else he ever done on Treacherous. He also had better artistic development and direction with Tha Row than he does now. He's a well rounded artist today, and is still as talented today as he was then, but certain attributes such as his flow, rawness and delivery were a bit more polished back then, just IMO though. He does show how to put it down on that under pressure beat, and again shows just how talented he is, but he needs better advise and direction. At least on DR he mostly rapped freestyles over original production, and not just the next mans hottest flavor of the month. The HHW thing had concept and that's reasonable, but these random shit outs of mixtape amateur tracks do nothing to solidify his image as a boss, or professional veteran in the rap game that one would expect from someone in it for almost 20 years with the portfolio he has. That's not hate, that's just the way it is, from a genuine Crooked I fan who wishes him the best to succeed in his career.
Slaughterhouse, Hoodstar album, 'original' mixtape work, and million dollar story promo are things he should be focusing on and trying to rebuild a confidence to the fans that he's capable of much more than a Papoose, or a Cyssero that the fans believe he is
His deathrow material was far from being polished.It was mostly generic music.And if you havent heard young boss vol.2 that was all original music and it shit all over eevrything he recorded on deathrow.I dont even think its close,hes ten times the artist today then when he was on death row.I have no real desire to listen to his deathrow material ever.Nor does any crooked I fan it seems.Polls arent any true reflection of anything,especially on this forum.
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Actually, Crooked looked hell of lame for jumping on this track. He tells the world to move on from Detox then he is the first to jump on it's cock. I'm not even hating on his flow or his content, just the tactic. Crooked needs to create a hot single that stands for itself and speaks for him instead of resorting to lame publicity tactics like this.
Kind of agree with this. In fact, I fully agree with this. Like said - He tells everyone to move on from Detox yet is the first to jump on and do "another" rap over someone elses beat ::)
Oh for the love of fucking God! How fuckin difficult it is to understand that Move On verse. He says rappers should stop worrying about Detox because it won't help them if they're just waiting for it to drop & save the west. Unless they're on the album or have written for it. He says even if the album is dope, it's not gonna help you because you're not on it. Now he says he wants Detox to blow & thanks that it's finally dropping as a fan. Not as an artist.
The move on verse was just not a mcs and rappers, it was directed towards the entire west coast, to any fan of west coast music.
You fail to grasp the content of Move On and thus you fail to see why he's a hypocrite. You don't tell people to move on from something and then be the first to support it. He's acting like Game.
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And, Crooked's material form his Death Row era was cliche gangsta rap and some of his material today is cliche gangsta rap.
Even though its been broken down to you in simple terms you still choose to act ignorant.I guess sometimes people just love to hate even though its been pointed out out to them they are in fact wrong.
You don't even understand the verse yet you think you broke it down. You're just an idiot.
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It was polished. From the delivery right down the production. Some of his more recent work sounds like it's been produced by some bedroom producer on his mothers PC using some fruityloops software. Musically it can't compete
lol @ young boss vol 2 shytting on anything he ever recorded on Death Row. Jack 101, the OG house party & Raw Dawgz shyt on that entire mixtape alone. Boom Boom Clap was on that young boss mixtape if memory serves me right, as well as that all I ever wanted track and those tracks don't display Crooks natural ability of a raw and hungry MC, or his lyrical talent. They're basic commercial attempts with simple structure like a lot on that mixtape with production that don't belong to the likes of Crooked I. Obviously there are those that will fall into the minority who prefer his recent work over the Death Row material, but his Dogg Pound/Death Row collection, early DR right to the point of the SHTTBG session tracks are most desired by the fans - even on "this" forum. They spark the most interest, and discussion. Slap Back - a Death Row era track leaks, and it sparks up the entire rap forum network, and a lot of discussions on rap sites and message boards over the net. A Boss leak is put online, and it gets about 18 maximum responses and is forgotten about within days. SHTTBG EP gathered more interest and discussion over Pig Face Weapon Waist EP as well. It's just one of those things
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Actually, Crooked looked hell of lame for jumping on this track. He tells the world to move on from Detox then he is the first to jump on it's cock. I'm not even hating on his flow or his content, just the tactic. Crooked needs to create a hot single that stands for itself and speaks for him instead of resorting to lame publicity tactics like this.
Kind of agree with this. In fact, I fully agree with this. Like said - He tells everyone to move on from Detox yet is the first to jump on and do "another" rap over someone elses beat ::)
Oh for the love of fucking God! How fuckin difficult it is to understand that Move On verse. He says rappers should stop worrying about Detox because it won't help them if they're just waiting for it to drop & save the west. Unless they're on the album or have written for it. He says even if the album is dope, it's not gonna help you because you're not on it. Now he says he wants Detox to blow & thanks that it's finally dropping as a fan. Not as an artist.
The move on verse was just not a mcs and rappers, it was directed towards the entire west coast, to any fan of west coast music.
You fail to grasp the content of Move On and thus you fail to see why he's a hypocrite. You don't tell people to move on from something and then be the first to support it. He's acting like Game.
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And, Crooked's material form his Death Row era was cliche gangsta rap and some of his material today is cliche gangsta rap.
Even though its been broken down to you in simple terms you still choose to act ignorant.I guess sometimes people just love to hate even though its been pointed out out to them they are in fact wrong.
You don't even understand the verse yet you think you broke it down. You're just an idiot.
ok break it down genius.You know your wrong but you just wont admit it because you went off on some stupid rant and you dont want to look stupid.
Back in Cali, niggas blaze and stress
Waiting on Detox to save the West
Even if the shit is dope it ain't giving you niggas hope
Unless your signature's wrote on the check from Interscope, nope
Move on
Where in those lyrics is him saying people should stop checking for detox?Where action,come on man break it down for us where does he say people shouldnt want to listen to detox.If your so smart I want to you to read those lyrics and tell us where hes saying that.youve quickly turned into one of the worst posters on this forum with your constant ignorance.
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"Even if the shit is dope it ain't giving you niggas hope
Unless your signature's wrote on the check from Interscope, nope."
That right there is like blatant, obvious English.
Unless you're working on the album, it doesn't mean shit for you; so stop acting like it's going to help your career.
It doesn't mean you can't be hyped that it's coming out as a fan of Hip Hop.
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"Even if the shit is dope it ain't giving you niggas hope
Unless your signature's wrote on the check from Interscope, nope."
That right there is like blatant, obvious English.
Unless you're working on the album, it doesn't mean shit for you; so stop acting like it's going to help your career.
It doesn't mean you can't be hyped that it's coming out as a fan of Hip Hop.
Then how does him saying,
"I want to hear only this in the in club for the next 6 months." not make him an hypocrite?
Even if he is only telling all artists to move on from Detox then why he is the first person to hop back on it?
Why can't y'all see the hypocrisy?
I honestly think y'all too far on his tip to see straight.
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Here's how I interpert the entire verse, and not just the bars. Note that the bars are a part of a a larger picture. Essentially, Crooked I is telling the entire West Coast to move on and give him a proper chance. Hence,
And now the best question you have to ask me,
is this a real neckalace?
Where's your beat from Dre? Your feature from Cube?
These things leave people confused.
Detox is specifically highlighted because, from both fans and mcs, it's basically the only thing that has enough power to help the west coast out. He doesn't say MCs, he says niggas. It's directed at everybody.
The entire verse is to us, don't you get that's why he opened with
When fan pictures my interviews ...
and continues with,
Is this your vision? Cool.
That verse is about people moving on from Detox and focusing on other MCs.
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"Even if the shit is dope it ain't giving you niggas hope
Unless your signature's wrote on the check from Interscope, nope."
That right there is like blatant, obvious English.
Unless you're working on the album, it doesn't mean shit for you; so stop acting like it's going to help your career.
It doesn't mean you can't be hyped that it's coming out as a fan of Hip Hop.
Then how does him saying,
"I want to hear only this in the in club for the next 6 months." not make him an hypocrite?
Even if he is only telling all artists to move on from Detox then why he is the first person to hop back on it?
Why can't y'all see the hypocrisy?
I honestly think y'all too far on his tip to see straight.
LOL,maybe its because they have nothing to do with one another?In one hes telling people to move on from the thought its going to help peoples career and in the other hes saying he wants to hear the music all the time?What does that have to do with one another?Explain action how those have anything to with one another.
Where is he saying people shouldnt enjoy the music on move on?
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"Even if the shit is dope it ain't giving you niggas hope
Unless your signature's wrote on the check from Interscope, nope."
That right there is like blatant, obvious English.
Unless you're working on the album, it doesn't mean shit for you; so stop acting like it's going to help your career.
It doesn't mean you can't be hyped that it's coming out as a fan of Hip Hop.
Then how does him saying,
"I want to hear only this in the in club for the next 6 months." not make him an hypocrite?
Even if he is only telling all artists to move on from Detox then why he is the first person to hop back on it?
Why can't y'all see the hypocrisy?
I honestly think y'all too far on his tip to see straight.
LOL,maybe its because they have nothing to do with one another?In one hes telling people to move on from the thought its going to help peoples career and in the other hes saying he wants to hear the music all the time?What does that have to do with one another?Explain action how those have anything to with one another.
Where is he saying people shouldnt enjoy the music on move on?
I had edited my reply before I saw this so I'm a just insert in my edit.
Here's how I "interpret" the entire verse, and not just the bars. Note that the bars are a part of a a larger picture. Essentially, Crooked I is telling the entire West Coast to move on and give him a proper chance. Hence,
And now the best question you have to ask me,
is this a real neckalace?
Where's your beat from Dre? Your feature from Cube?
These things leave people confused.
Detox is specifically highlighted because, from both fans and mcs, it's basically the only thing that has enough power to help the west coast out. He doesn't say MCs, he says niggas. It's directed at everybody.
The entire verse is to us, don't you get that's why he opened with
When fan pictures my interviews ...
and continues with,
Is this your vision? Cool.
That verse is about people moving on from Detox and focusing on other MCs.
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I see it as hypocrisy because, by my intepretation, of the verse you don't tell people to move on from somethign and then promote it. How can you move on when your promoting the object you just told everyone to move on from?
Note, he said WEST COAST MOVE ON. Not. MCS move on, step ya game up, etc.
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It was polished. From the delivery right down the production. Some of his more recent work sounds like it's been produced by some bedroom producer on his mothers PC using some fruityloops software. Musically it can't compete
lol @ young boss vol 2 shytting on anything he ever recorded on Death Row. Jack 101, the OG house party & Raw Dawgz shyt on that entire mixtape alone. Boom Boom Clap was on that young boss mixtape if memory serves me right, as well as that all I ever wanted track and those tracks don't display Crooks natural ability of a raw and hungry MC, or his lyrical talent. They're basic commercial attempts with simple structure like a lot on that mixtape with production that don't belong to the likes of Crooked I. Obviously there are those that will fall into the minority who prefer his recent work over the Death Row material, but his Dogg Pound/Death Row collection, early DR right to the point of the SHTTBG session tracks are most desired by the fans - even on "this" forum. They spark the most interest, and discussion. Slap Back - a Death Row era track leaks, and it sparks up the entire rap forum network, and a lot of discussions on rap sites and message boards over the net. A Boss leak is put online, and it gets about 18 maximum responses and is forgotten about within days. SHTTBG EP gathered more interest and discussion over Pig Face Weapon Waist EP as well. It's just one of those things
Slap back got attention because it was a snoop diss no other reason.I think your one of 3 people that actually think his music was better back then,it clearly isnt.The deathrow era was easily his worst era of music.The only people that prefer that era are people that arent really crooked i fans but rather those group of europeans obsessed with anything deathrow.His music was far from polished on deathrow.It sounded amatuer and boring.Ask the artist himself and he will tell you the same.people care about the deathrow name and the music regardless of wether or not its better.2pacs best music wasnt made on deathrow,but dont tell a deathrow fan that.
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"Even if the shit is dope it ain't giving you niggas hope
Unless your signature's wrote on the check from Interscope, nope."
That right there is like blatant, obvious English.
Unless you're working on the album, it doesn't mean shit for you; so stop acting like it's going to help your career.
It doesn't mean you can't be hyped that it's coming out as a fan of Hip Hop.
Then how does him saying,
"I want to hear only this in the in club for the next 6 months." not make him an hypocrite?
Even if he is only telling all artists to move on from Detox then why he is the first person to hop back on it?
Why can't y'all see the hypocrisy?
I honestly think y'all too far on his tip to see straight.
LOL,maybe its because they have nothing to do with one another?In one hes telling people to move on from the thought its going to help peoples career and in the other hes saying he wants to hear the music all the time?What does that have to do with one another?Explain action how those have anything to with one another.
Where is he saying people shouldnt enjoy the music on move on?
I had edited my reply before I saw this so I'm a just insert in my edit.
Here's how I "interpret" the entire verse, and not just the bars. Note that the bars are a part of a a larger picture. Essentially, Crooked I is telling the entire West Coast to move on and give him a proper chance. Hence,
And now the best question you have to ask me,
is this a real neckalace?
Where's your beat from Dre? Your feature from Cube?
These things leave people confused.
Detox is specifically highlighted because, from both fans and mcs, it's basically the only thing that has enough power to help the west coast out. He doesn't say MCs, he says niggas. It's directed at everybody.
The entire verse is to us, don't you get that's why he opened with
When fan pictures my interviews ...
and continues with,
Is this your vision? Cool.
That verse is about people moving on from Detox and focusing on other MCs.
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I see it as hypocrisy because, by my intepretation, of the verse you don't tell people to move on from somethign and then promote it. How can you move on when your promoting the object you just told everyone to move on from?
Note, he said WEST COAST MOVE ON. Not. MCS move on, step ya game up, etc.
lol,you just spliced up parts of the verse and didnt even make sense.That whole verse isnt about detox,that one set of bars that i quoted is about detox,the rest isnt.
When Fans Picture My Interviews
They Think I'm In A Swimmin' Pool
With Women Who've Been Abused
So They Turn Into Strippers
Makin They Livin' In The Nude
One In The Middle Blowin' My Inner Tube
While The Interviewers Gettin Ridiculed
Is This Your Vision Cool
Let Me Give U A Little Jewel
Any Dude Who Wanna Sit N My Tennis Shoes Is Missin Screwz
Don't Get It Misconstrued
Don't Get Tha Shit Confused
I'm 2 Seconds From Prison Food I'm a Different Dude
Pistol In My Reach Man
Still In Long Beach Man
Hoping If My Grind Don't Help Me Get Out My Speech Can
I Been In The Streets Longer Than Yao Mings Wingspan
U Can Be MTV I'll Be CSpan
I Deal With Politics Bandanas And Hollow Tips
Half U Rappers Follow This
Role Models Can Swallow Dick
Was Stressed Out Over Cashflow
HipHop Used 2 Console My Soul
Now It's A Bunch Of Assholes
Rap About And Dance While I'm Targeting Cops
Spit Sum Shit 4 Oscar Grant Hit Tha Seargent With Shots
Make Him A Ghost Like He Part Of Tha LOX
I Won't Stop Recordin' Till I'm Makin Songs Harder Than Pac's
If It Don't Happen At Least A Nyggah Know He Right There
Every Memory Under My Dodger Hats A Nightmare
As A Kid I Had 2 Steal Breakfast
An Now Tha Best Question U Have 2 Ask Me
Is This A Real Necklace
Wheres Ya Beat From Dre Ya Feature From Cube
These Things Leave People Confused
Cause They Know I Leave Speakers Abused I Eat Tha EQ's
I Eat Thru Tha Beat What's Tha Secret I Think It's Tha Shoes
Out In Cali Nyggahs Blaze An Stress
Waitin' On DeTox 2 Save Tha West
Even If Tha Shit Is Dope
It Ain't Givin U Nyggahs Hope
Unless Your Signatures Wrote On Tha Check From Interscope... NOPE
He opens with the interview line because thats the whole concept of the song.They are doing verses of the answers thety always have to answer to when being interviewed.Frist he addresses the fantasy that most hip hop fans of the artists,then he talks about himself then he talks about detox.The verse isnt one fluid subject.
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1. I'm not saying the entire verse is about Detox.
Evidently, I'm not communicating properly.
The point of the verse is to tell everybody to move on and focus on him. Part of everybody moving on is telling people to get over Detox, it's not the second coming. Another part is telling people to not assume you know anything about him (hence the opening bars). Another part is to move past artificial bullshit like chains. Yes, another part is telling other MCs to move on but that isn't the core message of the track.
Does this make any sense?
I'm not denying him the right to enjoy Detox, it's just hypocritical for him to promote it when he told everybody to move on.
It's fine you don't agree. Jaydc, you take disagreements really personal. If you want to explain the point of the verse (and a few bars), then enlighten me.
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Where did he write move on and focus on him?
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A Boss leak is put online, and it gets about 18 maximum responses and is forgotten about within days. SHTTBG EP gathered more interest and discussion over Pig Face Weapon Waist EP as well. It's just one of those things
I wish Crooked I still put "B.O.S.S." leaks online instead of freestyles over other people's instrumentals. As far as Death Row versus post-Death Row, I'm not sure which era I like most. I like them both. But I bet we're a lot more likely to see more Death Row Crooked I albums than we are Dynasty Records Crooked I albums.
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Where did he write move on and focus on him?
From the first bar
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Im not seeing that at all,I dont know where your getting that lol.
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Fuck this chit chat, Crook sounds dope over this beat, nuff said
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Let's take this line by line, this is getting absurd lol.
"Out In Cali Nyggahs Blaze An Stress" - Rappers out in California, smoke weed & stress because they can't sell shit. We still on the same page?
"Waitin' On DeTox 2 Save Tha West" - These rappers reffered to in the line before/above think that if Detox comes that they will magically help them along with there career; but no, they got something else coming. Let's continue.
"Even If Tha Shit Is Dope" - Even if Detox is dope...
"It Ain't Givin U Nyggahs Hope" - These "niggas" here aren't getting shit from Detox, it doesn't affect their career because they aren't on it or aren't working on it.
"Unless Your Signatures Wrote On Tha Check From Interscope... NOPE" - On the flip side, if you are in fact working on Detox & getting paid to contribute to the album (paid for by Interscope Records), that would help your situation/career.
Summing it up; artists on the West Coast are caught up thinking Dre will come & people will say "The West is alive! Detox dropped! People will listen to my shit because we're back, baby!". When in reality, it's not their album, how the fuck does it help them? How will the releasing of Detox help Jay Rock or Ya Boy if they aren't to be found on his album?
Now at the start of this Freestyle Crooked I says "I want to hear this shit in the club for the next six months" out of being a fan of Dre.
You can say Crooked I is "stanning" Dre & supporting inferior work of his just because it's Dre; I mean, he made it seem like "Oh man, Dre is back & he dropped a classic" & that surely wasn't the case.
But his lines in "Move On" & him supporting this song are two completely different things.
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crooked when he heard the track leaked : runs to the studio like crazy screaming "FIRRRRRRRRST"
Looooooool.
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When Fans Picture My Interviews
They Think I'm In A Swimmin' Pool
With Women Who've Been Abused
So They Turn Into Strippers
Makin They Livin' In The Nude
One In The Middle Blowin' My Inner Tube
While The Interviewers Gettin Ridiculed
Is This Your Vision Cool
Let Me Give U A Little Jewel
This is about ppl thinking Crook is dead-ass rich living care-free doing whatever he wants. Also could refer to ppl stereotyping him from Death Row days.
Any Dude Who Wanna Sit N My Tennis Shoes Is Missin Screwz
Don't Get It Misconstrued
Don't Get Tha Shit Confused
I'm 2 Seconds From Prison Food I'm a Different Dude
Pistol In My Reach Man
Still In Long Beach Man
Hoping If My Grind Don't Help Me Get Out My Speech Can
I Been In The Streets Longer Than Yao Mings Wingspan
U Can Be MTV I'll Be CSpan
I Deal With Politics Bandanas And Hollow Tips
Half U Rappers Follow This
Role Models Can Swallow Dick
Was Stressed Out Over Cashflow
This is about him being worse off than ppl think, and that he basically has 2 options for income, hit the block or make it in rap.
HipHop Used 2 Console My Soul
Now It's A Bunch Of Assholes
Rap About And Dance While I'm Targeting Cops
Spit Sum Shit 4 Oscar Grant Hit Tha Seargent With Shots
Make Him A Ghost Like He Part Of Tha LOX
I Won't Stop Recordin' Till I'm Makin Songs Harder Than Pac's
If It Don't Happen At Least A Nyggah Know He Right There
Every Memory Under My Dodger Hats A Nightmare
As A Kid I Had 2 Steal Breakfast
This is him wanting rap to be about real shit, and how he is working hard to be that kind of artist
An Now Tha Best Question U Have 2 Ask Me
Is This A Real Necklace
Wheres Ya Beat From Dre Ya Feature From Cube
These Things Leave People Confused
Cause They Know I Leave Speakers Abused I Eat Tha EQ's
I Eat Thru Tha Beat What's Tha Secret I Think It's Tha Shoes
This is about ppl interviewing him and focusing on his contacts and affiliations, more than the actual music he makes.
Out In Cali Nyggahs Blaze An Stress
Waitin' On DeTox 2 Save Tha West
Even If Tha Shit Is Dope
It Ain't Givin U Nyggahs Hope
Unless Your Signatures Wrote On Tha Check From Interscope... NOPE
MOVE ON
This is Crook stating that Detox coming out isn't gonna help anyone's career, but the ppl were involved in it directly, and will appear in the CD credits. He is telling these other artists to do their own thing and stop clinging to someone else and their project to get buzz.
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On a side note, I would be pissed at Crook if I were Dre.. I've already listened to this version 5 times, and the OG only 2 times..
Crook has stolen Dre's spins from me.. :laugh:
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On a side note, I would be pissed at Crook if I were Dre.. I've already listened to this version 5 times, and the OG only 2 times..
Crook has stolen Dre's spins from me.. :laugh:
+1 truth
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crooked made this beat approximately ok. dre u suck balls fo real.
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dope
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damn somebody from aftermath needs to reed these comments in here to get crooked over detox...
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Crooked I murdered both Dre and Jay on the track with his version. Showed him how to rock the beat.
he does this for every rapper during the HHW series haha
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It was polished. From the delivery right down the production. Some of his more recent work sounds like it's been produced by some bedroom producer on his mothers PC using some fruityloops software. Musically it can't compete
lol @ young boss vol 2 shytting on anything he ever recorded on Death Row. Jack 101, the OG house party & Raw Dawgz shyt on that entire mixtape alone. Boom Boom Clap was on that young boss mixtape if memory serves me right, as well as that all I ever wanted track and those tracks don't display Crooks natural ability of a raw and hungry MC, or his lyrical talent. They're basic commercial attempts with simple structure like a lot on that mixtape with production that don't belong to the likes of Crooked I. Obviously there are those that will fall into the minority who prefer his recent work over the Death Row material, but his Dogg Pound/Death Row collection, early DR right to the point of the SHTTBG session tracks are most desired by the fans - even on "this" forum. They spark the most interest, and discussion. Slap Back - a Death Row era track leaks, and it sparks up the entire rap forum network, and a lot of discussions on rap sites and message boards over the net. A Boss leak is put online, and it gets about 18 maximum responses and is forgotten about within days. SHTTBG EP gathered more interest and discussion over Pig Face Weapon Waist EP as well. It's just one of those things
Slap back got attention because it was a snoop diss no other reason.I think your one of 3 people that actually think his music was better back then,it clearly isnt.The deathrow era was easily his worst era of music.The only people that prefer that era are people that arent really crooked i fans but rather those group of europeans obsessed with anything deathrow.His music was far from polished on deathrow.It sounded amatuer and boring.Ask the artist himself and he will tell you the same.people care about the deathrow name and the music regardless of wether or not its better.2pacs best music wasnt made on deathrow,but dont tell a deathrow fan that.
& About SHTTBG EP gaining more interest than Pig Face Weapon Waist EP? That doesn't just come from the minortiy of 3/4 fans. It clearly comes from a larger majority. Crooked was more interesting on Death Row, more original, and more anticipated with his music/projects. You can blame the present day industry, or whatever else, but it is what it is. There's no way I'd ever in my life ask an artist what music was "better", because in their eyes - it'll always be what they're doing at that moment in time. Snoop will say Malice in Wonderland is some of the best things he's ever done prior to it's release. It doesn't always produce a well rounded answer. Fans and critics know better in that field! The artists will always have a diluted view of reality and most already know that a lot don't have good memorys of Tha Row
You never rated Don Killuminati 7 Day Theory as 2Pac's best work? I did, I liked pre-DR material very much, and agree with some of the DR comments about it's fans liking anything DR related but it wasn't an opinion based on that. I just liked the darker concept and religious-like theme of the entire album
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Have this on repeat for some time now, damn Crooked really took this on another level.
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^^ agree. I think I am coming back to this again lol.
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Crooked Crashed The Beat Totally.. Fuck A Detox Album.. Supply Crooked Detox Beats & Let Dude Ride..
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Crooked Crashed The Beat Totally.. Fuck A Detox Album.. Supply Crooked Detox Beats & Let Dude Ride..
Real talk but I still want to hear Detox!