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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Lincoln on July 10, 2003, 10:00:00 AM
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posts what you think are the worst things that happened to hip-hop. mine are:
Rakim signing to aftermath
Crooked I signing to Tha Row
50 Cent
Ras Kass getting fucked on several occasions by Priority
Eazy-E dying of AIDs
Big L getting shot
Big Pun dying of a heart attack
Xzibit hooking up w/Dre
Paris having trouble releasing his new album
Snoop Dogg hooking up with the Neptunes
Above The Law going independent & therefore having trouble releasing their new album
Mitchy Slicks Triggeration Station going out of print (I can't find it)
Ruthless Records not re-releasing ATL's Uncle Sam's Curse
add some more thoughts here
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The D.O.C. injured in car crash.
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posts what you think are the worst things that happened to hip-hop. mine are:
50 Cent
WTF is wrong with 50 Cent? Y'all hate on him too much
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WTF is wrong with 50 cent?What is wrong with him is that a child can write his rhymes,it strictly shit lyrics over a ok over a dope beat..lol
Worst thing that happened to hip hop``?
Jermaine Dupri
Ja Rule
50 cent
Nelly
and a bunch of rappers from the dirty south
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Pac & BIG getting shot
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commercialisation and the march of "bling bling" rappers.
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bling bling rappers
tq signing to cash money
pac & big getting shot
shady/aftermath haters
shady/aftermath dickriders
50 cents rhymes
bone crusher
the breaking up of a tribe called quest (even though their reunited)
rappers turned actors
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rappers turned actors
Hell yeah! That's an awful trend. I blame Kid N Play ;D
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rappers turned actors
Hell yeah! That's an awful trend. I blame Kid N Play ;D
lmao...yea its definetely him that started it...some rappers are good actors (pac, ice cube,..even ja rule..) but some are awful (kid n' play, treach, fat joe)
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DOC losing his voice
Suge fuckin' everyone about
Pac & Big shot
Dre going too eastcoast
All the bitches (ja rule,nelly etc) been giving recroding
contracts
Snoop forgetting his westcoast roots
Interscope having too much control over Aftermath
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Scott LaRock got murdered :'(
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when rappers stopped caring about the quality of there music
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when rappers stopped caring about the quality of there music
i agree with that entirely but theres one thing nobody's mentioned that sadly i think we're all forgetting...one of the worst things...jam master jay getting killed
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Post Gangsta rise of "Bling/Greed" rap.
Payola in radio
Mausberg getting shot
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posts what you think are the worst things that happened to hip-hop. mine are:
Eazy-E dying of AIDs
Xzibit hooking up w/Dre
Mitchy Slicks Triggeration Station going out of print (I can't find it)
Eazy dyin of Aids gotta B tha worse, if he wuz alive he woulda had tha game in khekk.
XziBit hookin up wit Dre iz tha Bess thang X koulda done.
That alBum aint outta print. Where u live?
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Pac & BIG getting shot
Big L and Pun.....and Suge Knight
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WTF is wrong with 50 cent?What is wrong with him is that a child can write his rhymes,it strictly shit lyrics over a ok over a dope beat..lol
Not ever rapper is good lyrically....
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Death.
Haters
Groupies
Break up of Deah Row
DPG's break up
The rest of the kliks breakin up
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Radio bein blazed with songs strictly dedicated to hoes and bitches and money and ass shakin.
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Radio bein blazed with songs strictly dedicated to hoes and bitches and money and ass shakin.
I forgot that one... you can add Neptunes (when Pharrel sings)to the list, this skater sings like a girl , he should stick to producin
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The D.O.C. injured in car crash.
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westside connection taking 7 years to release another album...but advertising it 4 years ago
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Kid N Play made a classic movie, House Party! RESPECT THEIR GANGSTA!
What y'all know bout that "Oh La Oh La Ay"!
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commercial rap aint that bad....it is exposed to new fans of rap....which will lead some of them to explore more about the roots of rap...and that will lead them to the great artists in hip hop.
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commercial rap aint that bad....it is exposed to new fans of rap....which will lead some of them to explore more about the roots of rap...and that will lead them to the great artists in hip hop.
i definetely agree w/ that...if i hadnt heard shit like regulators back when it came out i would've never gotten exposed to anything else...its because of regulators and california love that i have gotten into the greater artists (not that pac and warren are 2 of the greats)
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Pac & BIG getting shot
Yes, singlehandly this killed rap in my opinion.
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Most have already been said, but here are some of mine:
-Eazy, Pac and Biggie dying
-D.O.C. losing voice in car accident
-The Neptunes....
-Cube focusing on movies instead of music
-Uneek & Tony C not sticking with Bone together
-The break-up of N.W.A
-Bling bling (OVER flossing
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The Insane Clown Posse
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Pac & BIG getting shot
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payola & politics
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#1: All the violence and all its victims. R.I.P.
Then there's:
-Payola
-Haters, people who refuse to recognize talent even they know it's there.
-Dickriders/Groupies
-Bubblegum-pop rappers (Nelly, Ja...)
-Bling Bling!
-Stupid beef (not all beef, beef is healthy, but some shit is just dumb... Like Suge beefing with all the ex-inmates. What's really the freakin' point in that?)
-Talents who were tight with each other before fallin' out 'cause of stupid beef. (Like Pac & Dre)
-Rappers following the trends too much and not doing what they do best (e.g. Snoop)
-Talents (almost) giving up their careers 'cause they don't get recognized like they deserve to be.
-Label bullshit
-Peeps claiming to be gangsta when they're not, even when they would have enough talent to make it big by being themselves.
Quote from Bad Azz:
it's like all of the sudden
everybody's want a Bentley
everybody got a rap
everybody done been in a gang or sold a little crack
How's that?
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the great rakim started the bling bling in hip hop
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The Insane Clown Posse
Fuck you.
You know I couldn't sit back and not respond to that. ;)
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Gangsta Rap's influence - As much as I love gangsta rap at it's best, I have to say that it influenced too many rappers to become wanna be gangstas and all. Even all the NY raps that we hear nowadays are brewed from gangsta rap.
When it first came out it was dope, and some of it even had a message. Nowadays, all this "Thug rap" shit is annoyin as hell, even tho everybody likes it. Not only does every rapper try to brag about how rough they grew up, how they sold crack, how they'll shoot u, but kids from the suburbs think this is "real hip hop" so when they hear all the Eastcoast "mixtape rappers" they think that is real rap, but when rappers such as those from the underground spit, they are considered boring just because they aren't sayin how many people they'll kill.
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The Insane Clown Posse
Fuck you.
You know I couldn't sit back and not respond to that. ;)
lmao...i figured you would...but i honestly think ICP is destroying hip hop...seriously...how many "I stabbed him" songs do we need? one was too many and theres like 5 of those fuckers! i will admit that song that was directed towards them fucking eminems mom was funny....but i didnt find it a very good diss considering he hates his mom lol...its not like it really hurt him too bad :-\
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2pac's death
biggie's death
dre leaving deathrow
xzibit + dre
snoop + pop
nelly, ja rule,
EMINEM
peace
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Lil' Jon
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The Insane Clown Posse
Fuck you.
You know I couldn't sit back and not respond to that. ;)
lmao...i figured you would...but i honestly think ICP is destroying hip hop...seriously...how many "I stabbed him" songs do we need? one was too many and theres like 5 of those fuckers! i will admit that song that was directed towards them fucking eminems mom was funny....but i didnt find it a very good diss considering he hates his mom lol...its not like it really hurt him too bad :-\
Have you ever heard "Ain't nothin' but a bitch thang"? That's a good diss and it's all true, unlike the story Em tells about "shooting paintballs at them". Check it out when ya get a chance. Really, how exactly does ICP "ruin" hip hop?
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they really just dont bring anything new to the table except songs about stabbing people...and those really are just annoying....they have had a few good songs...i liked about 6 or 7 tracks from the bazaar album(s)...but for the mostpart...i think they should just quit trying to do music
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Actually, the days when rappers started to get their first real money from what they did were the first days of ruining hip hop.... The day when you get your first material benefits from your music is the last day you make music just for the fuck of it.... So hip hop has been ruined more than a decade ago.
Before rappers started to get paid hip hop was gutter music. Now it's a profession like every other typa music. Just figure out that almost every rappers' best album is his first one, and you'll know what I'm sayin'.
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- the death of pac, biggie, eazy and roger. :'(
- suge knight´s business practices >:(
- kurupt/daz beef :(
- only 2 dr. dre solo albums in over 10 years ???
- gay amaru production over pacs unreleased lyrics >:(
- pop rappers who act like gangsters ::)
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In no order....
1. Pac's death (to me, things went for a downward spiral after this)
2. Big's death
3. Em starting to yell in his "raps" and not stick to his tight freestyle flow. I used to fiend for em tracks, now I don't even care.
4. 50 cent getting over rated to the point where he is compared to classics
5. Loss of fresh commercial rap
6. Too many songs telling a girl to "shake their ass". Think of something new. Party songs and "babygirl" songs have gotten too repetitive.
7. Snoop selling out and making a stupid ass TV show.
8. Snoop losing his flow (please release ain't nothin but a g thang 2!)
9. Too much focus on dumb ass hooks rather than verse content
10. Em and Ja beef.... man has this gotten old
11. 50 using all pac lyrics in his hail mary diss
12. Nas being allowed to be on an official pac track
13. Wack producers being allowed to ruin Better Dayz and Until the End of Time. Get Jonny J on all of them!
14. Kurupt over using profanity... man all he talks about is people sucking his dick now
15. Crook's album being delayed for years!
16. DMX losing appeal. Sucks that his first album was the best, he had a chance of being really great.
17. Rappers turned singers (50, DMX, Snoop, Ja). To quote pac, "I spit that thug shit, nigga, muthafuck singin".
18. Pac not getting the respect and credit he deserves (people using his lyrics, etc)
19. Southern rap (excluding luda, scarface, outkast, dayton family)
20. Midwest rap..... don't get me started
Yes I know, I really like Pac. Ok I think that's enough for now. I had to get that off my chest.
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1. When Pac died...
cuz none of this other bull shit probably would have never happened if this didn't take place...
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1. When Pac died...
cuz none of this other bull shit probably would have never happened if this didn't take place...
c'mon man, flamboyant people like pac die anyway, killing or else, i cant imagine pac live to see his grandkids
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I don't know if pac didn't die I don't think he would have
the status he has now as a deadman, but lookin' at it
I think if pac was still here the rap game would be very
different there would be no bling bling shit and big pimpin'
shit there is now and some people who are rap's biggest
stars at the moment wouldn't be if pac were still alive one
that comes to mind is Jay-Z
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agreed...unfortunately i think biggie would be dead either way...if pac hadnt died he woulda killed him...sad how that happens.
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spm goin 2 jail n shit
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2 things i wish that didnt happen that havnt been said yet are:
BG Knocc Out goin 2 jail
K-Dee disappereaing
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spm goin 2 jail n shit
i didnt know he was in jail...and i wouldnt say it took anything away from hip hop...but spm really is dope...
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spm goin 2 jail n shit
why, he deserved it, he molested a 9 year old girl :-X and he had a child by a 13 year old girl
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spm goin 2 jail n shit
why, he deserved it, he molested a 9 year old girl :-X and he had a child by a 13 year old girl
damn...i didnt know that shit...im glad he went to jail...but as i said...he really was dope
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Yep....South Park Mexican a.k.a. Chester da Molester Bitch ass SPM
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One of the worst: MTV discovers hiphop
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I think if pac was still here the rap game would be very
different there would be no bling bling shit and big pimpin'
shit
2pac started that bling bling slang....and some of his songs on Deah Row were about "bitches"
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I think if pac was still here the rap game would be very
different there would be no bling bling shit and big pimpin'
shit
2pac started that bling bling slang....and some of his songs on Deah Row were about "bitches"
yea thats true...but he did positive things with his money a lot...he just enjoyed spending it...didnt matter how "even though i sell rocks...it feels good puttin money in ya mail box"...i think we'd still have the bling bling thing...but it wouldnt be as bad as it is
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they really just dont bring anything new to the table except songs about stabbing people...and those really are just annoying....they have had a few good songs...i liked about 6 or 7 tracks from the bazaar album(s)...but for the mostpart...i think they should just quit trying to do music
People probably get tired of hearing me say it, but defo check out Dark Lotus - Tales from the Lotus Pod, if you can find any songs to download there. Also almost every song on The Wraith: Shangri-La is more serious and has more of a message to it.
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ok well ill give u a chance to change my mind...send me a good track that im actually going to like and then we'll see....
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ok well ill give u a chance to change my mind...send me a good track that im actually going to like and then we'll see....
Try to find "Hell's forecast" to download. If you can't find it, I'll send it to you.
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ill try later...remind me...right now im sendin someone a track
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1.for sure its got to be the deah of Eazy, Tupac, and Biggie (makes me sick that people r still tryin to make money off of them)
2.the fact that its alright to sell out now
3.all this bling bling crap (member when it was about shi#t that was really happining not about what u have(anyone here have a million dollar ring?......didnt think so))
4.finally (i think).... raido stations playing a song soooooo much that u get sick of it.
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ICP SUCKED DICK!! no offense or anything but they really do haha
The Insane Clown Posse
Fuck you.
You know I couldn't sit back and not respond to that. ;)
lmao...i figured you would...but i honestly think ICP is destroying hip hop...seriously...how many "I stabbed him" songs do we need? one was too many and theres like 5 of those fuckers! i will admit that song that was directed towards them fucking eminems mom was funny....but i didnt find it a very good diss considering he hates his mom lol...its not like it really hurt him too bad :-\
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ICP SUCKED DICK!! no offense or anything but they really do haha
lol...thats what eminem says
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Westood speaking in a "gangsta" voice. lol
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2pac Dying
50 Cent Releasing An Album