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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Thirteen on February 04, 2005, 06:22:14 AM
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Raimi and Tapert Talk Spider-Man 3
The duo all-but-confirm Venom is the villain.
February 03, 2005 - Sam Raimi is hard at work on the script for Spider-Man 3 with the help of his brother Ted. The last time I spoke with Raimi, at the press day for The Grudge, he said that, at his current stage in the writing process, he wanted to let Peter Parker's journey determine who the villain would be. Just this week, Raimi has been quoted in interviews across the Web as saying that he has figured out who the villain would be, but couldn't reveal it just yet.
After reading the rumors, I figured who better to ask than the man himself? Earlier today, at the press day for the film Boogeyman, a production of Sam Raimi and Rob Tapert's Ghost House Pictures, both men were on hand to promote the film and, as might be expected, try their best to deflect the impending barrage of Spider-Man 3 villain questions.
As some journalists lacked a bit of subtlety, the Spider-Man 3 villain question came up almost immediately for Raimi: "Actually, I'm not allowed to say about the villains or the heroes or the storylines or themes of the picture yet. I think Sony wants to make their own presentation, and not for probably like a year, when it gets [closer] to the release of the picture. I think they want to keep it quiet and at some point in the future make a proper presentation, probably with an illustration or a mock-up of the character when they cast him, the name of the character… Or her," Raimi laughs, trying to maintain the illusion of who the character might be. (Laughs) "Tricky, that one. I'm actually just not at liberty to say, but I'm sure that they will make that presentation whenever they determine the time."
Noting that Raimi is in good spirits about the whole rumor issue, another journalist suggests that Raimi simply give a little wink if Venom will be the villain.
Raimi laughs and jokingly winks at us. "There's something in my eye." (Laughs)
Tapert fires back with a question of his own: "Can I ask a question back? Why does everybody want Venom in it? I wanted to just know as an outsider, why, because when we walked in today, somebody walked up and said, 'We're so excited Venom's in it,' and then she said that some Internet site ran something today."
Being a room full of Internet geeks, myself included, we preceded to recount to Raimi and Tapert why we thought Venom was such a cool villain and how he would fit perfectly into the film series.
"Yeah, he can shoot webs and stick to walls," Raimi says. "I think he can look like [different people]… Yeah, there's different origins if I can remember them right. I think, I might be getting confused, but I believe that one is a gift in outer space, for some reason he's concerned about keeping his secret identity even there, but they give him a suit, but isn't that an alternate version of it, or am I getting that confused with something else?"
-Marvel Comics
Another journalist recounts the plot of a Venom story involving Jameson's son. "Yes," Raimi agrees. "That's what I'm wondering. I thought he brings back something that makes Spider-Man, or maybe I'm thinking of the animation I saw. Yeah, you know, there's so many versions of it, I'm thinking of an animated story that that happens in."
As Raimi and Tapert's time ran short, the Venom side talk continued as they left the room. Admittedly, neither would officially confirm the rumors, but the joking attitude and surprising amount of information Raimi seemed to have about Venom certainly suggest a strong likelihood. We'll keep you posted for an official word, but for now, you be the judge.
-- Jeff Otto
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Venom..but you can't have him with Carnage ;D
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Venom..but you can't have him with Carnage ;D
Carnage came after venom
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Venom..but you can't have him with Carnage ;D
Carnage came after venom
ment to say you can't have Venom without carnage...but either way it sounded retarded
but Carnage/Venom vs Spiderman would be one long ass movie
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Venom..but you can't have him with Carnage ;D
Carnage came after venom
ment to say you can't have Venom without carnage...but either way it sounded retarded
but Carnage/Venom vs Spiderman would be one long ass movie
If that's what they do, Hollywood will find some way to make the whole idea suck.
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Venom is bad ass. I wanna see this now.
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actually it was Venom and Spiderman vs. Carnage their first go around
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as much as i wanna see this happen, it probably wont happen until atleast spider-man 4. you will need atleast half of the movie, if not more to build up
- the suit coming in from space
- eddie brock working @ the daily bugle
- eddie brock being fired because of peter parker
- spider-man using the black suit
- eddie brock's rage with spider-man
then you have to have the venom & spider-man fight scenes etc.. it would be good if they could introduce all the above shit in spider-man 3.. then in spider-man 4 have venom & introduce carnage.. then spider-man 5 have venom & carnage
etc.. then spider-man has to get rid of the suit.. etc. venom & spider-man need more than 1 movie to do ANY justice. Sam Raimi has said on many occasions that he likes the classic villains, so my guess for the 'visual effects' would be Hydro-Man or Sandman..
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also, forgot to mention.. Sam Raimi has also said that the movies will have their own continuity and might not releate to the comics @ all in some places.. since Jameson's son is the Manwolf in the comics (from memory), there was talk of making him Venom since he would already have been into space, have the rage since Peter stole MJ etc..
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as much as i wanna see this happen, it probably wont happen until atleast spider-man 4. you will need atleast half of the movie, if not more to build up
- the suit coming in from space
- eddie brock working @ the daily bugle
- eddie brock being fired because of peter parker
- spider-man using the black suit
- eddie brock's rage with spider-man
then you have to have the venom & spider-man fight scenes etc.. it would be good if they could introduce all the above shit in spider-man 3.. then in spider-man 4 have venom & introduce carnage.. then spider-man 5 have venom & carnage
etc.. then spider-man has to get rid of the suit.. etc. venom & spider-man need more than 1 movie to do ANY justice. Sam Raimi has said on many occasions that he likes the classic villains, so my guess for the 'visual effects' would be Hydro-Man or Sandman..
you got the cartoon version or some shit..
Eddie brock worked for the Daily Globe, a competitor for the daily bugle....he wrote false articles only because his source was false
Peter revealed the true killer and eddie lost his job....
spiderman was taken by the beyonder to compete in the secret wars where he found this suit
the suit was great but started taking peter's body out at night for battles
peter thought something was up...took it to the leader of the fantstic four where they found out it was a parasite, they then shot it and contained it
peter thought it was gone and donned his old suit but it ended up being the escaped suit disguising itself as the red and blue suit...
spiderman fought it above some church and the sound from the bells made peter and the suit almost die...the suit escaped and then found eddie brock praying in the church....
there's venom's true history
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^ yep, i know that.. but can you really see them doing a 'secret wars' in the spider-man movie? the only other origin that could happen is the one from the cartoon
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like you said in your other post though, they can easily link the simple version into spiderman 3... one thing for sure is we're going to see green goblin 2....maybe hobgoblin if harry decides to swicth the suit a little...and a possible lizard and a possible venom
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i don't wanna see GG2.. i think its too obvious, and i dont think there will be 2 villains in the movie, so GG wouldnt be the 'extremely visual villain' they're talking about
the lizard would be good and that would be my 3rd pick i think, although it wouldnt be too visual either compared to what's already been done etc
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i don't wanna see GG2.. i think its too obvious, and i dont think there will be 2 villains in the movie, so GG wouldnt be the 'extremely visual villain' they're talking about
the lizard would be good and that would be my 3rd pick i think, although it wouldnt be too visual either compared to what's already been done etc
could have some nasty human to lizard transformation screens
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yeah, that's be nice. but i think to appreciate the lizard, venom & carnage it would need to hit R18+. be interesting to see what they do either way
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yeah, that's be nice. but i think to appreciate the lizard, venom & carnage it would need to hit R18+. be interesting to see what they do either way
for ratings sake i wouldn't think they could work in carnage... to flesh out a psychotic mass murderer character while restricted to PG-13 would be nearly impossible
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as much as i wanna see this happen, it probably wont happen until atleast spider-man 4. you will need atleast half of the movie, if not more to build up
- the suit coming in from space
- eddie brock working @ the daily bugle
- eddie brock being fired because of peter parker
- spider-man using the black suit
- eddie brock's rage with spider-man
then you have to have the venom & spider-man fight scenes etc.. it would be good if they could introduce all the above shit in spider-man 3.. then in spider-man 4 have venom & introduce carnage.. then spider-man 5 have venom & carnage
etc.. then spider-man has to get rid of the suit.. etc. venom & spider-man need more than 1 movie to do ANY justice. Sam Raimi has said on many occasions that he likes the classic villains, so my guess for the 'visual effects' would be Hydro-Man or Sandman..
You are completely right bout that but the problem is Raimi said spiderman is gonna finish this year cuz its only a trilogy
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^ Raimi did an interview a few weeks ago saying he's now open to doing more spider-man movies if Marvel come to him with it
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venom was my fav, and that whole space story was the ish
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As much as I would like to see Venom, I think they're going to go with the Green Goblin and the Lizard
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the OG x-men and spiderman need to hook up
but venom would be way cool
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Man...you guys know your spiderman lol...secret wars were the shit
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i collected comics for about 6 years... xmen, spiderman, fantastic four, iron man, hulk, ghost rider, secret wars 1 & 2, what if's, marvel universes, wolverines...
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yeah, ive been into comics for as long as i can remember, i have secret wars 1 in MINT condition, nobody has ever touched/opened that sucker, not that its worth anything, heh. mainly spiderman, avengers, xmen, fantastic four & hulk
im also pretty hyped for the fantastic four movie, thing has been my favourite character since i started readin comics along with the hulk.. but spider-man 3 will be up there if they put venom in it
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tight info guys... can you let me know the story on carnage?
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tight info guys... can you let me know the story on carnage?
while eddie brock was in jail, his cell mate was this guy named cletus kassidy i believe, i'm a little rusty, anyways the pollution of the earths atmosphere mixed with spawns of venoms symbiote and they created a plethora of evil venom clones...carnage being the most popular and the only one i think still alive...the pollution enable the new symbiotes to adapt and shoot stuff...venoms suit can only suit webs....all the rest stays attached...i got carnage's first appearence...i'd just have to look it up to see what issue it is
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wow good lookin, i remember those old cartoons back then...
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any word on a new xmen movie coming out or what?
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any word on a new xmen movie coming out or what?
so far all that's signed on for the new Xmen movie is Rogue, Iceman, Nightcrawler and Cyclops for sure last i checked, they're writing scripts for a Magneto and a Wolverin movie so i would supposed they are still in it....the guy that directed the first two leeft and is now directing the new Superman movie
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i just hope if they do a venom/carnage or just venom movie...shits gotta be dark and grimy!
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venom was my fav, and that whole space story was the ish
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MINE TOO !!!! I bought all the first issues of that back in the day.
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the guy that plays Cyclops is out since he's in the new Superman movie and FOX aren't gonna let the actors do both. The guy who plays Iceman in xmen also got offered a role, but FOX wouldnt let him do it so he's definitley in. so far all thats in is;
wolverine (hugh jackman is also part director & producer)
jean grey/phoenix
nightcrawler
rogue
iceman
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the guy that plays Cyclops is out since he's in the new Superman movie and FOX aren't gonna let the actors do both. The guy who plays Iceman in xmen also got offered a role, but FOX wouldnt let him do it so he's definitley in. so far all thats in is;
wolverine (hugh jackman is also part director & producer)
jean grey/phoenix
nightcrawler
rogue
iceman
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AS far as anyone knows the story will be heavily on the whole Phoenix thing. No word yet if that means that Mr. Sinister will be in the movie also. Although he kicked major ass in the original story.
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they don't even have a script yet, and they're still deciding on what the story will be about .. ofcourse juding by the ending of xmen2 you'd think the phoenix saga, but theyve said many times that the movies wont be fully based on the comics & wont have the same continuity .. for all we know they could turn jean grey into a giant character from sesame street ..
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ive been waitin 4 venom that movie would be badass
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I heard Larry David is going to be in it.