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Title: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 18, 2005, 05:52:55 PM
There you have it. The biggest Laker fan in the world is gunna tell it like it is...It's not that I've lost faith, because I haven't. I love the Lakers with all my heart. But the Lakers are far from a complete team...I'm not bashing their talent, because I truly believe the players possess a gang of talent, but they don't play to full potential. They just look clueless on the court. They seem uncoached...What happened to all the big name candidates to coach the Lakers? Any of those coaches would have fit better than Frank Hamblen. Hamblen is in the wrong position. He is an assistant coach and doesn't have the experience under his belt to coach a big name team such as the Lakers. Odom hasn't progressed, Mihm and Butler have subsided, Atkins has been a positive surprise, but he likes to shoot more than to pass. Some one needs to put this team in perspective. I believe this Laker team can be a great team and championship contenders...Kobe has been playing hurt ever since his return from his 14 game absence. In these types of situations, other players need to step up and they don't. This is what causes the Lakers to collapse and get outplayed. Lamar Odom shouldn't be standing on the top of the key waiting to shoot a low percentage 3-point shot, he needs to cut to the basket with or without the ball and become more aggressive. Chris Mihm shouldn't watch the other players playing while waiting to grab a rebound, he should get position and be ready for anything. Chucky Atkins shouldn't shoot every 3-point shot he gets a look at, he should play the point and run some plays. He's not good at finding players and needs to develop that into his game. Caron Butler has confidence, but not as much talent. It's like the opposite of Lamar Odom. Butler is still a smart player with a quick step who can shoot the ball, but he needs to play how he was playing in the beginning of the season. Jumain Jones and Brian Cook are excellent 3-point threats and should lead the Lakers in 3-pointers attempted, but that's not happening. Luke Walton and Slava Medvadenko were better last year under an accomplished head coach. Brian Grant is playing his worst season yet. I'm losing it just trying to figure out what these players are thinking. If I saw no potential in the Lakers and they were just a whack team with no talent, I wouldn't get angry, but that's not the case...and I'm furious. I'm praying that they wake up and start playing, but almost every day that hope keeps fading away. Nobody in this world can win a championship on their own, and that's no exception for Kobe. Yes, he's amazing. No, he can't win 1-on-5 every game. It might work here and there, but they won't get far this way. Maybe this is all part of a plan for next season, but nobody is notifying the fans. For the longest, there hasn't even been mention of Vlade Divac, who was originally projected to start at center for the Lakers this season. And I already forgot about Devan George. I don't think the Lakers will miss the playoffs, but sadly, it wouldn't surprise me if they did. I would never have imagined myself saying something like that, but there it is. Lakers need to win at least 10 out of their last 18 games. If they don't, better have a plan for next season...
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Post by: eS El Duque on March 18, 2005, 06:12:57 PM
real talk
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Post by: Ðøšïå on March 18, 2005, 06:40:34 PM
wow i dont wanna read all that. im guessing you jsut stated the obvious though.
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Post by: acbaylove on March 18, 2005, 06:48:16 PM
They need a coach and a pivot. Pz.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 18, 2005, 07:03:03 PM
wow i dont wanna read all that. im guessing you jsut stated the obvious though.


It's just an honest opinion from a real Laker fan...I always keep it real when I'm on here and only state my true feelings. People are quick to call me a whackass Laker fan, or say I don't know my shit and just ride dick...But ya'll are quick to forget Lakers ARE my team and I stay behind them 100%...When I feel they aren't performing well, I'll admit it, and that's what I'm doing now...It happened again today, and now they need 10 of 17 to make me feel better...PeACe
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Doggystylin on March 18, 2005, 07:16:36 PM
Watching the Lakers is the most frustrating thing ever and with all of classes i need to study for i wanna take some time off and relax, well watching the lakers is the worst shit ever. Me and my brother were watching the Lakers Pacers game today and my brother was like, its funny, look at them, they look like they never played basketball before and hes right man, the lakers are so out of sync its disturbing.

If they keep playing like this, nope, no playoffs. Denver has a easy schedule ahead of them and the Lakers have one of the hardest schedules infront of them with games against the Sonics, Suns, Spurs, Memphis and the Rockets. Yeah doesn't look good at all, and plus even Minnesota is ahead of the Lakers now, Lakers are in 10th. I saw screw Odom, Butler and George, Lakers need to make some major trades in the off-season.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: OneHittaSpitta on March 18, 2005, 09:06:26 PM
glad to see this post. I think more of a "fan" when they admit their team sucks. Obviously not when they have a successful season. But, i cant stand blind fans who just make excuses everytime their team is just bad. Im a HUGE raider fan....but the last two years, we sucked. We didnt come to play, and even with their talent just didnt play together in anyway. The Lakers have a lot of work to do IMO. Theyve got one really good player, and a bunch of role players. No one else who can REALLY take the pressure off Kobe.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Suffice on March 18, 2005, 09:15:47 PM
NIK you forgot to mention the part that Kobe had one of his worst games in his entire career. Like 10 points and 3 assists or something? That's ridiculous. He really sucked the entire game. I think Lakers really need to think about getting a new coach next season and trading some players for another superstar
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 18, 2005, 11:44:25 PM
Watching the Lakers is the most frustrating thing ever and with all of classes i need to study for i wanna take some time off and relax, well watching the lakers is the worst shit ever. Me and my brother were watching the Lakers Pacers game today and my brother was like, its funny, look at them, they look like they never played basketball before and hes right man, the lakers are so out of sync its disturbing.

If they keep playing like this, nope, no playoffs. Denver has a easy schedule ahead of them and the Lakers have one of the hardest schedules infront of them with games against the Sonics, Suns, Spurs, Memphis and the Rockets. Yeah doesn't look good at all, and plus even Minnesota is ahead of the Lakers now, Lakers are in 10th. I saw screw Odom, Butler and George, Lakers need to make some major trades in the off-season.


It's not about trades man...You don't get it...They have the talent...Kobe, Lamar, and Butler alone should be one of the strongest trios in the NBA...Another thing, Lakers aren't playing defense! Either Hamblen's defensive system is completely whack, or the players just need to step up...With the exception of Kobe, it's rare to see a player putting in 100% effort on the defensive end when watching the Lakers...They're not lacking talent, they're just lacking effort and a coach to put them in perspective...Do the Lakers need to trade for a better player? No, but if the current players continue lagging it, then yes, the Lakers will need a player with heart, some one like Ray Allen or Amare Stoudmire...Players who know what they're doing and are already developed...If it gets to that situation, then I have faith in Jerry Buss to know what to do...I just hope something happens...
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Don Jacob on March 19, 2005, 02:45:19 AM
First of all............NIK now you know where i was coming from


second of all this is the Los Angeles Lakers the most storied franchise in nba history.. yeah boston may have a few more championshipsbut the lakers are the leagues most storied franchise. We'll be like the  yankeez win a grip then suck win a grip then suck for a bit. you got to realize teams like this don't just fade away. This is the beaty of being a fan watching your team come from nothing to glory , that's why we rioted when we won in 2000.


check this out the laker WILL have at least 5 more championships under their belts before i retire and go on social security

the mineapolis lakers use to be bad ass when they had miken then after that era they sucked but then the jerry west era had come
when the west and chamberlin era ended the lakers sucked for a few then bam show time came
when showtime ended the lakers sucked for a few then bam the kobe shaq era
who knows what the next era will but all i know is it's coming
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: acbaylove on March 19, 2005, 03:55:54 AM
Nik we both know this team just needs some steps. First of all they need a credible coach. That thing is too important to joke about it. Look at Denver. Before they hired Karl they were out the Play Offs, having an horrible season. Now they are probably the hottest team in the West, with a 9-1 record in the last 10 games. Second, they need somebody to find the right role/system to get Odom involved (he's a point forward, it's useless to use him as a "normal" PF or as a 3pts shooter), or we should trade him keeping Butler and George and trying to sign a good Center. Third, we need a Center. Divac didnt play this season, Grant is having troubles in the West Coast (and he's old anyway), Medvedenko was rarely being used this year and Cook is just a 3pts shooter. With those 3 steps i think next year Lakers will back as contenders. Maybe they'll not win the ring, but shit, it will be hella better for sure!

The things that makes me optimistic are:
1- Franchise History (everybody wanna coach the Lakers)(but coach K, ok ok..)
2- A lot of tradable players (Divac, Grant, Odom, Butler, Medvedenko, George, Walton..)
3- Bryant probably understood more how to be a leader and not a crying bitch.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: PLANT on March 19, 2005, 07:45:02 AM
I never thought Id see the day Sccit said the "Lakers Suck"

 :o

I can see it now.  Next year around this time he will be giving LeBron the crown and completely off Kobe and the Lakers nuts.













That'll be the day...........
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 19, 2005, 08:52:13 AM
^^It's pieces of shit like you that make the world a piece of shit...
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: The Big Bad Ass on March 19, 2005, 10:42:27 PM
I don't belive that Butler is as good as you think he should be. The man just doesn't quite get it. And Lamar has the tools, and the body to be great, but has really only had one solid season his whole career. The fact that he is injury prone is probably what is keeping him from slashing, which is sad because he can be one of the most unstoppable drivers in the sport. But hey, it could be worse... you could have had your teams 3 best players suspended for a total of 1,000,000 games like my team :).... Thank Christ for uncle Reg lol.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Just Another Sunny day in California on March 19, 2005, 10:51:23 PM
butler is crap, odom is a lil above crap but for the most the lakers trade from them 2 and sending shaq was a total waste, what a bunch of fuckin idiots in the lakers front office.  and for those who thought kobe would be the next jordan....i hope this serves as a reminder that he'll never be like jordan
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: DAYUM on March 19, 2005, 11:28:51 PM
i like the Spurs not the Lakers
i like the Astros not the cardinals or the sox
i like the cowboys not the raiders

hell im just Texas Made
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: PLANT on March 20, 2005, 07:12:24 AM
^^It's pieces of shit like you that make the world a piece of shit...
Im glad you cleared that up for me  :-*




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Post by: AlerG on March 20, 2005, 09:04:24 AM
go pistons go, i don't really have much to say about the lakers, but good points made by nik made this thread a good read, peace.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 20, 2005, 12:29:36 PM
i hope this serves as a reminder that he'll never be like jordan


Jordan wouldn't do shit for the current day Lakers...He did all his shit with Phil Jackson and an awesome supporting cast...Stupid mothafocka.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: eS El Duque on March 20, 2005, 01:14:32 PM
I don't see what you guys see in Butler. I have seen 46 laker games this season, butler ain't much of a force. I must of seen the wrong games.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: PLANT on March 20, 2005, 02:44:11 PM
i hope this serves as a reminder that he'll never be like jordan



Jordan wouldn't do shit for the current day Lakers...He did all his shit with Phil Jackson and an awesome supporting cast...Stupid mothafocka.

I dont see much difference in the supporting cast.  The Bulls never had a true point guard, the never had a great big man and Pippen is on the same level as Odom IMO....The only difference is that Jordan made all those guys better than they actually were, and he pushed them and wouldnt accept losing...Kobe is a great player but hes lacking the part where he makes everyone else better around him....Something that Jordan did, and I see in LeBron aswell.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Doggystylin on March 20, 2005, 03:04:38 PM
i hope this serves as a reminder that he'll never be like jordan



Jordan wouldn't do shit for the current day Lakers...He did all his shit with Phil Jackson and an awesome supporting cast...Stupid mothafocka.

I dont see much difference in the supporting cast.  The Bulls never had a true point guard, the never had a great big man and Pippen is on the same level as Odom IMO....The only difference is that Jordan made all those guys better than they actually were, and he pushed them and wouldnt accept losing...Kobe is a great player but hes lacking the part where he makes everyone else better around him....Something that Jordan did, and I see in LeBron aswell.

are you kidding? lol...

Odom on the same level as Pippen? how many times has Odom been an all-star?
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Post by: ShadyGuru on March 20, 2005, 03:21:33 PM
Lakers should have made kobe and shaq work it out, lettin shaq go to miami was a bad bad move
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: PLANT on March 20, 2005, 03:29:36 PM
i hope this serves as a reminder that he'll never be like jordan



Jordan wouldn't do shit for the current day Lakers...He did all his shit with Phil Jackson and an awesome supporting cast...Stupid mothafocka.

I dont see much difference in the supporting cast.  The Bulls never had a true point guard, the never had a great big man and Pippen is on the same level as Odom IMO....The only difference is that Jordan made all those guys better than they actually were, and he pushed them and wouldnt accept losing...Kobe is a great player but hes lacking the part where he makes everyone else better around him....Something that Jordan did, and I see in LeBron aswell.

are you kidding? lol...

Odom on the same level as Pippen? how many times has Odom been an all-star?
Never been one....Odom is a great player tho.  He was prolly the best player for the US team at the Olympics.  He just doesnt play well with Kobe.  Pippen wasnt the greatest player, but he and Jordan meshed and MJ brought the bes out of Scottie.  Im just trying to say that they are same type/ calibre of player....If Kobe could work better with Lamar and mesh together better, they would have better chances.   Kobe has the guys on his team to get it done, its just not happening.  I know theyre not the same without Shaq, but the Lakers should def be a playoff team.  And if theyre not, then the star player should take the heat for it.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Just Another Sunny day in California on March 20, 2005, 04:16:47 PM
i agree with represent......and as for sayin jordan had a great supporting cast????? please dude shut up, name one other player besides jordan, rodman, and pippen who were all stars on those chicago bulls team?  i'm not going to lie jordan had a GOOD supporting cast but not great like Represent said he made all of them better for example john paxson or steve kerr.  kobe had that when shaq was there but look where he's at now???
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: acbaylove on March 20, 2005, 05:10:09 PM
i hope this serves as a reminder that he'll never be like jordan

Jordan wouldn't do shit for the current day Lakers...He did all his shit with Phil Jackson and an awesome supporting cast...Stupid mothafocka.

I dont see much difference in the supporting cast.  The Bulls never had a true point guard, the never had a great big man and Pippen is on the same level as Odom IMO....The only difference is that Jordan made all those guys better than they actually were, and he pushed them and wouldnt accept losing...Kobe is a great player but hes lacking the part where he makes everyone else better around him....Something that Jordan did, and I see in LeBron aswell.

are you kidding? lol...

Odom on the same level as Pippen? how many times has Odom been an all-star?
Never been one....Odom is a great player tho.  He was prolly the best player for the US team at the Olympics.  He just doesnt play well with Kobe.  Pippen wasnt the greatest player, but he and Jordan meshed and MJ brought the bes out of Scottie.  Im just trying to say that they are same type/ calibre of player....If Kobe could work better with Lamar and mesh together better, they would have better chances.   Kobe has the guys on his team to get it done, its just not happening.  I know theyre not the same without Shaq, but the Lakers should def be a playoff team.  And if theyre not, then the star player should take the heat for it.

I totally disagree. First point: the Bulls. You are missing the point. Bulls won because of DEFENCE (and those Lakers are the 4th worse defensive team in the league), because of the TRIANGLE (it can make Longley a great Center, if he's involved in the system well.. you dont need offensive skills, but just intelligence), and because they had the best rebounder in the league, the best Shooting Guard and the best Small Forward. And the best 6th man (Kukoc). With Harper who was perfect for the triangle (a tall PG great in defence, like Phil wants) and a Center who had an easy job thanx to the triangle (shit even Nesterovic is a great C in a triangle system!!!). So THAT'S the supporting cast!! DEFENCE, ROLE PLAYERS (Kerr, Paxon, Grant, Kukoc..), GREAT PLAYERS, TRIANGLE!!

About those Lakers, they have NO DEFENCE (4th worse defence in the NBA), they dont play TRIANGLE (shit i dont even know what they play!! They just shoot from 3pts or give the ball to Kobe!!!!!!! You can go nowhere playing like that) and they only have an All Star Player (Kobe). That's the difference between them Bulls and todays Lakers.

About Odom, shit, i'm a great fan of him, but to say he's as talented as Pippen is a blasphemy! Pippen is one of the best SF of the last 20 years!!! Odom only has potential, but he still has to express it! And i dont think Kobe is his problem! His problem is that he needs to play as a point forward, starting all the actions and taking more responsabilities, driving inside. But he's just playing as a pure SF, shooting from 3pts or passing the ball too much to Kobe. So much that Lakers coach said this week Odom should stop passing the ball to Kobe and he should start to be more selfish!! Please......... Pippen was on a completely different level! Expecially mentally.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 20, 2005, 07:21:19 PM
i hope this serves as a reminder that he'll never be like jordan



Jordan wouldn't do shit for the current day Lakers...He did all his shit with Phil Jackson and an awesome supporting cast...Stupid mothafocka.

I dont see much difference in the supporting cast.  The Bulls never had a true point guard, the never had a great big man and Pippen is on the same level as Odom IMO....The only difference is that Jordan made all those guys better than they actually were, and he pushed them and wouldnt accept losing...Kobe is a great player but hes lacking the part where he makes everyone else better around him....Something that Jordan did, and I see in LeBron aswell.


No...Phil Jackson had everyone come together as a team, not Jordan, you moron...Same thing Phil did with the Lakers...No matter how good Jordan was, he didn't do it all on his own...Kobe's supporting cast aren't even comparable to Jordan's...Jordan's players knew their role, they had a real coach, they used an excellent defensive system of Phil Jackson's...You fuckin' Kobe haters are dumb as fuck...Keep hatin' though...Ya'll will see...PeACe
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 20, 2005, 07:25:28 PM
i hope this serves as a reminder that he'll never be like jordan

Jordan wouldn't do shit for the current day Lakers...He did all his shit with Phil Jackson and an awesome supporting cast...Stupid mothafocka.

I dont see much difference in the supporting cast.  The Bulls never had a true point guard, the never had a great big man and Pippen is on the same level as Odom IMO....The only difference is that Jordan made all those guys better than they actually were, and he pushed them and wouldnt accept losing...Kobe is a great player but hes lacking the part where he makes everyone else better around him....Something that Jordan did, and I see in LeBron aswell.

are you kidding? lol...

Odom on the same level as Pippen? how many times has Odom been an all-star?
Never been one....Odom is a great player tho.  He was prolly the best player for the US team at the Olympics.  He just doesnt play well with Kobe.  Pippen wasnt the greatest player, but he and Jordan meshed and MJ brought the bes out of Scottie.  Im just trying to say that they are same type/ calibre of player....If Kobe could work better with Lamar and mesh together better, they would have better chances.   Kobe has the guys on his team to get it done, its just not happening.  I know theyre not the same without Shaq, but the Lakers should def be a playoff team.  And if theyre not, then the star player should take the heat for it.

I totally disagree. First point: the Bulls. You are missing the point. Bulls won because of DEFENCE (and those Lakers are the 4th worse defensive team in the league), because of the TRIANGLE (it can make Longley a great Center, if he's involved in the system well.. you dont need offensive skills, but just intelligence), and because they had the best rebounder in the league, the best Shooting Guard and the best Small Forward. And the best 6th man (Kukoc). With Harper who was perfect for the triangle (a tall PG great in defence, like Phil wants) and a Center who had an easy job thanx to the triangle (shit even Nesterovic is a great C in a triangle system!!!). So THAT'S the supporting cast!! DEFENCE, ROLE PLAYERS (Kerr, Paxon, Grant, Kukoc..), GREAT PLAYERS, TRIANGLE!!

About those Lakers, they have NO DEFENCE (4th worse defence in the NBA), they dont play TRIANGLE (shit i dont even know what they play!! They just shoot from 3pts or give the ball to Kobe!!!!!!! You can go nowhere playing like that) and they only have an All Star Player (Kobe). That's the difference between them Bulls and todays Lakers.

About Odom, shit, i'm a great fan of him, but to say he's as talented as Pippen is a blasphemy! Pippen is one of the best SF of the last 20 years!!! Odom only has potential, but he still has to express it! And i dont think Kobe is his problem! His problem is that he needs to play as a point forward, starting all the actions and taking more responsabilities, driving inside. But he's just playing as a pure SF, shooting from 3pts or passing the ball too much to Kobe. So much that Lakers coach said this week Odom should stop passing the ball to Kobe and he should start to be more selfish!! Please......... Pippen was on a completely different level! Expecially mentally.


^Real shit...
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: PLANT on March 20, 2005, 07:42:19 PM
Im not a Kobe hater.  I already said hes a great player. Saying that he isnt as good as Jordan is not hating on someone, is it?  He doesnt make anyone better around him.  Thats all I said.  And for the dude who said Pippen was prolly one of the best SG in the last 20 years....Tell me this, would you be saying that if Scottie had never played with Michael"?  I think not.  Scotties numbers were always better when he played with Jordan. 

Kobe will never win another championship unless he gets another Shaq type player on his team.  Shaq makes everyone better because they can get the ball inside out all game.  Kobe just shoots and shoots and turns the ball over almost more than anyone in the league and doesnt make anyone else better.  He still gets his numbers tho  :-X
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: PLANT on March 20, 2005, 07:48:03 PM
Anywayz,..........we kinda got off topic for abit there...

You're right NIK....The Lakers DO suck.
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Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 20, 2005, 11:11:16 PM
Im not a Kobe hater.  I already said hes a great player. Saying that he isnt as good as Jordan is not hating on someone, is it?  He doesnt make anyone better around him.  Thats all I said.  And for the dude who said Pippen was prolly one of the best SG in the last 20 years....Tell me this, would you be saying that if Scottie had never played with Michael"?  I think not.  Scotties numbers were always better when he played with Jordan. 

Kobe will never win another championship unless he gets another Shaq type player on his team.  Shaq makes everyone better because they can get the ball inside out all game.  Kobe just shoots and shoots and turns the ball over almost more than anyone in the league and doesnt make anyone else better.  He still gets his numbers tho  :-X



How can you expect Kobe, who is currently playing hurt, to make the players better when they don't even have an official coach?...Like I said, Jordan had Phil Jackson, Kobe has Frank Hamblen...You see what I'm saying?
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: 7even on March 21, 2005, 02:05:05 AM
Im feeling  a little bad making this post, but Ive not been around recently and wont be around regulary in a while to come, so I have to make it short what I have to say on basketball:

-Miami have the best stats in the league and are in top shape right before the playoffs.
-Lakers probably won't make the playoffs.
-Shaq is a MVP contender.
-Kobe didnt even have a good "solo" season. You could at least expect him averaging sick numbers when Shaq is gone, but he sure as hell didnt.

So much for the Kobe is God / Shaq sucks talk before the season started.


Also, James just hit 56 ... in his 2nd season... and will lead his team to the playoffs. Overrated, next Olowakandi, anyone?
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: acbaylove on March 21, 2005, 02:42:53 AM
Im not a Kobe hater.  I already said hes a great player. Saying that he isnt as good as Jordan is not hating on someone, is it?  He doesnt make anyone better around him.  Thats all I said.  And for the dude who said Pippen was prolly one of the best SG in the last 20 years....Tell me this, would you be saying that if Scottie had never played with Michael"?  I think not.  Scotties numbers were always better when he played with Jordan. 

Kobe will never win another championship unless he gets another Shaq type player on his team.  Shaq makes everyone better because they can get the ball inside out all game.  Kobe just shoots and shoots and turns the ball over almost more than anyone in the league and doesnt make anyone else better.  He still gets his numbers tho  :-X

Once again you're not getting the point! It's the SYSTEM who made Pippen the 2nd best player in the league!! Not only Jordan. Jordan is no doubt the best SG ever, maybe the best player ever, a real winner, a real leader etc.. but he never won a damn thing without Phil and his system. Just like Kobe. Get it? Shit he retired because Phil went to Los Angeles leaving the Bulls! Cause he knew it: no Phil, no titles.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: acbaylove on March 21, 2005, 02:54:45 AM
Im feeling  a little bad making this post, but Ive not been around recently and wont be around regulary in a while to come, so I have to make it short what I have to say on basketball:

-Miami have the best stats in the league and are in top shape right before the playoffs.

San Antonio has the best stats in the league. But please also consider Miami plays in the easiest conference and division of the NBA. I'm not hating on them, they've built a team to win the league in 1-2 years, so they're doing what they were supposed to do. A great job. But still they play in the East, and still it wont be easy for them to win the ring (Detroit and San Antonio are still better teams, imo).

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-Lakers probably won't make the playoffs.

Right.

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-Shaq is a MVP contender.

No. Wade is.

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-Kobe didnt even have a good "solo" season. You could at least expect him averaging sick numbers when Shaq is gone, but he sure as hell didnt.

That's wrong. Kobe is the Lakers. The fucked up thing is that Lakers in the 4th quarters are keep playing the "pass it to Kobe" offence, and Kobe is shooting with 2 or 3 defenders against him. Shit have you seen last night match vs the Sonics? Other teams are playing like a team, Lakers is playing like a "solo". But it's not only Kobe's fault. I dont even think it's Kobe being selfish! It's just that Atkins, Mihm, Butler, even Odom has no balls to take the team over their shoulders when Kobe has a no-night or when he's doubled. Hamblen says 2 times a week in his press conferences that other players should be more selfish and they should take some responsabilities................. damn!! It has nothing to do with Kobe! It's more like Lakers dont have a system!

Ranks #2 in the NBA in Points Per Game (27.9)
Ranks #2 in the NBA in Minutes Per Game (41.7)
Ranks #2 in the NBA in Triple-doubles (4.0)
Ranks #2 in the NBA in Free Throws Per 48 Minutes (10.17)
Ranks #4 in the NBA in Points Per 48 Minutes (32.0)
Ranks #7 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking (24.41)
Ranks #18 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking Per 48 Minutes (28.07)

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So much for the Kobe is God / Shaq sucks talk before the season started.

Well that was a dumb statement.

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Also, James just hit 56 ... in his 2nd season... and will lead his team to the playoffs. Overrated, next Olowakandi, anyone?

Carmelo Anthony?
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: 7even on March 21, 2005, 04:27:09 AM
Im feeling  a little bad making this post, but Ive not been around recently and wont be around regulary in a while to come, so I have to make it short what I have to say on basketball:

-Miami have the best stats in the league and are in top shape right before the playoffs.

San Antonio has the best stats in the league. But please also consider Miami plays in the easiest conference and division of the NBA. I'm not hating on them, they've built a team to win the league in 1-2 years, so they're doing what they were supposed to do. A great job. But still they play in the East, and still it wont be easy for them to win the ring (Detroit and San Antonio are still better teams, imo).

That is simply wrong. Just wrong. Miami has the better record and is on a winning streak. Fact. Not opinion. Fact. Of course it won't be easy for them to win the ring, noone will it have easy to win the ring. Thing is a couple years ago Lakers DID have it easy to win the ring and now look at them when Shaq is gone and then look at the team Shaq went to.

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-Lakers probably won't make the playoffs.

Right.

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-Shaq is a MVP contender.

No. Wade is.

The dudes who make the decision who gets the Awards favor Shaq over Wade, Im pretty sure on that. You can argue that Wade is the better player and all, but that's not really the point.

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-Kobe didnt even have a good "solo" season. You could at least expect him averaging sick numbers when Shaq is gone, but he sure as hell didnt.

That's wrong. Kobe is the Lakers. The fucked up thing is that Lakers in the 4th quarters are keep playing the "pass it to Kobe" offence, and Kobe is shooting with 2 or 3 defenders against him. Shit have you seen last night match vs the Sonics? Other teams are playing like a team, Lakers is playing like a "solo". But it's not only Kobe's fault. I dont even think it's Kobe being selfish! It's just that Atkins, Mihm, Butler, even Odom has no balls to take the team over their shoulders when Kobe has a no-night or when he's doubled. Hamblen says 2 times a week in his press conferences that other players should be more selfish and they should take some responsabilities................. damn!! It has nothing to do with Kobe! It's more like Lakers dont have a system!

Ranks #2 in the NBA in Points Per Game (27.9)
Ranks #2 in the NBA in Minutes Per Game (41.7)
Ranks #2 in the NBA in Triple-doubles (4.0)
Ranks #2 in the NBA in Free Throws Per 48 Minutes (10.17)
Ranks #4 in the NBA in Points Per 48 Minutes (32.0)
Ranks #7 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking (24.41)
Ranks #18 in the NBA in Efficiency Ranking Per 48 Minutes (28.07)

Don't get me wrong Im not saying Kobe plays like your average SG. All Im saying is that his performances definitely don't drive anyone crazy, which they should because I don't think he will improve much as a player and the times in which you could argue Shaq is "taking" Kobe's points are over.


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Also, James just hit 56 ... in his 2nd season... and will lead his team to the playoffs. Overrated, next Olowakandi, anyone?

Carmelo Anthony?

Well Im not entirely sure what you are implying right now. IF you are trying to claim that you can compare Anthony to James you should never talk to me again. IF you are referring to that "Overrated, next Olowakandi, anyone?" it is of course an exaggeration but yeah it's aight.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: acbaylove on March 21, 2005, 04:51:12 AM
That is simply wrong. Just wrong. Miami has the better record and is on a winning streak. Fact. Not opinion. Fact. Of course it won't be easy for them to win the ring, noone will it have easy to win the ring. Thing is a couple years ago Lakers DID have it easy to win the ring and now look at them when Shaq is gone and then look at the team Shaq went to.

San Antonio lost against Detroit last night. Before that, they were n.1 in the League, that's why i wrote so. Also considering they play in the West. Anyway that's not even the point, they're two great teams, and Detroit is another great team. One of those 3 will win the ring, probably. About the Lakers-Miami thing, what you say is obvious. But let's try to look at it a little bit deeper. I mean Riley built Miami to win the title in 1 max 2 years. He has destroyed salary flexibility, he has traded two young good players, he has added only role players and he only has a good superstar in Wade, other than Shaq. It's a do or die situation. If Miami doesnt win the ring in 1-2 years, they'll probably have to rebuild the team from zero. You know what i mean? They risked. Lakers did a whole different thing. They didnt want to build a team to win the ring. They wanted to build a young team to win the ring in 3-4 years. They have Kobe, a superstar, plus Odom, Butler, Mihm, even George, Walton.. 5 good young players. Their plot was to reach the play-offs this year (ok, it's a failure, i give you that) and to add flexibility in their roster, building a young team, to try to get a superstar in 2 years. Hopefully Yao or Amare. You can argue that they did the worse thing, trying to rebuild a team who was still capable to win 1-2 more rings.. and i can give you that! But it was been Buss' decision. You know what i mean? They chosed to rebuild the team. So all the Lakers fans should understand it and should wait 2-3 more seasons for their team to be a good team. Right now they're still developing as a team and they still need to make some trades (ex. Divac, George, etc..). Do you agree? Then obviously NO SHAQ NO TITLE.

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The dudes who make the decision who gets the Awards favor Shaq over Wade, Im pretty sure on that. You can argue that Wade is the better player and all, but that's not really the point.

Yeah, but Shaq is having the worse stats of his career, that's what i mean. In the wackest coast (for Centers).

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Don't get me wrong Im not saying Kobe plays like your average SG. All Im saying is that his performances definitely don't drive anyone crazy, which they should because I don't think he will improve much as a player and the times in which you could argue Shaq is "taking" Kobe's points are over.

It's Kobe who didnt understand that. Having Shaq in your team is nothing but a great thing for the team and for everybody else in the team. Kobe did a mistake thinking Shaq was stopping his development as a player. I agree with you here.

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Well Im not entirely sure what you are implying right now. IF you are trying to claim that you can compare Anthony to James you should never talk to me again. IF you are referring to that "Overrated, next Olowakandi, anyone?" it is of course an exaggeration but yeah it's aight.

The second thing.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: 7even on March 21, 2005, 05:02:21 AM
That is simply wrong. Just wrong. Miami has the better record and is on a winning streak. Fact. Not opinion. Fact. Of course it won't be easy for them to win the ring, noone will it have easy to win the ring. Thing is a couple years ago Lakers DID have it easy to win the ring and now look at them when Shaq is gone and then look at the team Shaq went to.

San Antonio lost against Detroit last night. Before that, they were n.1 in the League, that's why i wrote so. Also considering they play in the West. Anyway that's not even the point, they're two great teams, and Detroit is another great team. One of those 3 will win the ring, probably. About the Lakers-Miami thing, what you say is obvious. But let's try to look at it a little bit deeper. I mean Riley built Miami to win the title in 1 max 2 years. He has destroyed salary flexibility, he has traded two young good players, he has added only role players and he only has a good superstar in Wade, other than Shaq. It's a do or die situation. If Miami doesnt win the ring in 1-2 years, they'll probably have to rebuild the team from zero. You know what i mean? They risked. Lakers did a whole different thing. They didnt want to build a team to win the ring. They wanted to build a young team to win the ring in 3-4 years. They have Kobe, a superstar, plus Odom, Butler, Mihm, even George, Walton.. 5 good young players. Their plot was to reach the play-offs this year (ok, it's a failure, i give you that) and to add flexibility in their roster, building a young team, to try to get a superstar in 2 years. Hopefully Yao or Amare. You can argue that they did the worse thing, trying to rebuild a team who was still capable to win 1-2 more rings.. and i can give you that! But it was been Buss' decision. You know what i mean? They chosed to rebuild the team. So all the Lakers fans should understand it and should wait 2-3 more seasons for their team to be a good team. Right now they're still developing as a team and they still need to make some trades (ex. Divac, George, etc..). Do you agree? Then obviously NO SHAQ NO TITLE.

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The dudes who make the decision who gets the Awards favor Shaq over Wade, Im pretty sure on that. You can argue that Wade is the better player and all, but that's not really the point.

Yeah, but Shaq is having the worse stats of his career, that's what i mean. In the wackest coast (for Centers).

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Don't get me wrong Im not saying Kobe plays like your average SG. All Im saying is that his performances definitely don't drive anyone crazy, which they should because I don't think he will improve much as a player and the times in which you could argue Shaq is "taking" Kobe's points are over.

It's Kobe who didnt understand that. Having Shaq in your team is nothing but a great thing for the team and for everybody else in the team. Kobe did a mistake thinking Shaq was stopping his development as a player. I agree with you here.

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Well Im not entirely sure what you are implying right now. IF you are trying to claim that you can compare Anthony to James you should never talk to me again. IF you are referring to that "Overrated, next Olowakandi, anyone?" it is of course an exaggeration but yeah it's aight.

The second thing.


I agree with everything. But I have to add that you are dreaming if you think they will get Amaré or Yao. Both are happy with their teams and their teams are happy with them. Plus Lakers have no cap room.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: acbaylove on March 21, 2005, 06:04:29 AM
Lakers will have cap room in 2007 but yes, i think it's a dream too. :-\
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: 'EclipZe on March 21, 2005, 07:03:05 AM
real talk
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 21, 2005, 11:40:02 AM
Im feeling  a little bad making this post, but Ive not been around recently and wont be around regulary in a while to come, so I have to make it short what I have to say on basketball:

-Miami have the best stats in the league and are in top shape right before the playoffs.
-Lakers probably won't make the playoffs.
-Shaq is a MVP contender.
-Kobe didnt even have a good "solo" season. You could at least expect him averaging sick numbers when Shaq is gone, but he sure as hell didnt.

So much for the Kobe is God / Shaq sucks talk before the season started.


Also, James just hit 56 ... in his 2nd season... and will lead his team to the playoffs. Overrated, next Olowakandi, anyone?


Again, people aren't getting the point...Shaq isn't even the best player on his team...Kobe might not have had his best season ever, but what do you mean he didn't even have a good solo season? Kobe has been doing his part, as I've already stated, it's the other players who ain't progressing...LeBron hit 56 and Toronto still beat them...LMAO...Do us all a favor and stay doing what you're doing so WCC doesn't have to read your bullshit ass posts...
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 21, 2005, 11:50:41 AM

Kobe did a mistake thinking Shaq was stopping his development as a player. I agree with you here.




I don't think Kobe ever said something like that...Kobe claimed it would be an honor to play with Shaq on his team for the rest of his career last year after they lost the title.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 21, 2005, 11:52:23 AM
Lakers will have cap room in 2007 but yes, i think it's a dream too. :-\



I don't think it's a dream...Lakers are a sought after team...Every big name player turned free agent will look into the Lakers when they get their cap room...
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: acbaylove on March 21, 2005, 12:08:00 PM
Kobe did a mistake thinking Shaq was stopping his development as a player. I agree with you here.
I don't think Kobe ever said something like that...Kobe claimed it would be an honor to play with Shaq on his team for the rest of his career last year after they lost the title.

He said it. He said it about Phil, and he said it about Shaq. But it's over now, i think he understood the mistake and i hope he'll accept Phil coming back to L.A. next year (that's what i hope).
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: acbaylove on March 21, 2005, 12:08:44 PM
Lakers will have cap room in 2007 but yes, i think it's a dream too. :-\

I don't think it's a dream...Lakers are a sought after team...Every big name player turned free agent will look into the Lakers when they get their cap room...

In 2007, yeah! I dont know. That's the OG plot of Buss. We will see.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 21, 2005, 12:13:32 PM
Kobe did a mistake thinking Shaq was stopping his development as a player. I agree with you here.
I don't think Kobe ever said something like that...Kobe claimed it would be an honor to play with Shaq on his team for the rest of his career last year after they lost the title.

He said it. He said it about Phil, and he said it about Shaq. But it's over now, i think he understood the mistake and i hope he'll accept Phil coming back to L.A. next year (that's what i hope).


Show me where he said that (not implied that)...
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: 7even on March 21, 2005, 01:01:00 PM
Im feeling  a little bad making this post, but Ive not been around recently and wont be around regulary in a while to come, so I have to make it short what I have to say on basketball:

-Miami have the best stats in the league and are in top shape right before the playoffs.
-Lakers probably won't make the playoffs.
-Shaq is a MVP contender.
-Kobe didnt even have a good "solo" season. You could at least expect him averaging sick numbers when Shaq is gone, but he sure as hell didnt.

So much for the Kobe is God / Shaq sucks talk before the season started.


Also, James just hit 56 ... in his 2nd season... and will lead his team to the playoffs. Overrated, next Olowakandi, anyone?


Again, people aren't getting the point...Shaq isn't even the best player on his team...Kobe might not have had his best season ever, but what do you mean he didn't even have a good solo season? Kobe has been doing his part, as I've already stated, it's the other players who ain't progressing...LeBron hit 56 and Toronto still beat them...LMAO...Do us all a favor and stay doing what you're doing so WCC doesn't have to read your bullshit ass posts...

Blame the other Laker players all you want, the fact that he is not playing (one of) his best season(s) ever is enough to call it a flop after all that "Kobe will average 40 ppg when Shaq is gone" talk. Don't get all nasty over me saying how it is, it hurts my feelings and I don't want that.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: acbaylove on March 21, 2005, 02:00:32 PM
Kobe did a mistake thinking Shaq was stopping his development as a player. I agree with you here.
I don't think Kobe ever said something like that...Kobe claimed it would be an honor to play with Shaq on his team for the rest of his career last year after they lost the title.

He said it. He said it about Phil, and he said it about Shaq. But it's over now, i think he understood the mistake and i hope he'll accept Phil coming back to L.A. next year (that's what i hope).

Show me where he said that (not implied that)...

Well he criticized triangle a lot of times (Tex Winter confirmed it too), saying triangle wasnt the best system for him. Maybe he didnt call out Phil directly, but shit.. that's enought for me! He wanted to get ridd of the triangle, it's a known fact. About Shaq,well he said it when he first started to beef with him, saying Shaq shot too much and that he should start all the actions, not Shaq (from the post). Again, he probably didnt call out Shaq directly, but it's the same meaning to me. I think now Kobe is a different guy. I mean i think and i hope he understood that it was been a mistake to criticize the best coach in the NBA and the best C in the NBA. He started to play with Shaq in L.A., he didnt know how frustrating can be to play without Shaq. Now he knows it.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 21, 2005, 02:03:21 PM
Im feeling  a little bad making this post, but Ive not been around recently and wont be around regulary in a while to come, so I have to make it short what I have to say on basketball:

-Miami have the best stats in the league and are in top shape right before the playoffs.
-Lakers probably won't make the playoffs.
-Shaq is a MVP contender.
-Kobe didnt even have a good "solo" season. You could at least expect him averaging sick numbers when Shaq is gone, but he sure as hell didnt.

So much for the Kobe is God / Shaq sucks talk before the season started.


Also, James just hit 56 ... in his 2nd season... and will lead his team to the playoffs. Overrated, next Olowakandi, anyone?


Again, people aren't getting the point...Shaq isn't even the best player on his team...Kobe might not have had his best season ever, but what do you mean he didn't even have a good solo season? Kobe has been doing his part, as I've already stated, it's the other players who ain't progressing...LeBron hit 56 and Toronto still beat them...LMAO...Do us all a favor and stay doing what you're doing so WCC doesn't have to read your bullshit ass posts...

Blame the other Laker players all you want, the fact that he is not playing (one of) his best season(s) ever is enough to call it a flop after all that "Kobe will average 40 ppg when Shaq is gone" talk. Don't get all nasty over me saying how it is, it hurts my feelings and I don't want that.


Sorry I hurt your little feelings... :'(


Nobody said Kobe would average 40 points...First of all, he's been playing hurt with barely any help...Not many players can average 28 points, 6 assists, and 6 rebounds doing that...Now wait 'til he leads a team that knows what they're doing...Then you can talk.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 21, 2005, 02:07:49 PM
Kobe did a mistake thinking Shaq was stopping his development as a player. I agree with you here.
I don't think Kobe ever said something like that...Kobe claimed it would be an honor to play with Shaq on his team for the rest of his career last year after they lost the title.

He said it. He said it about Phil, and he said it about Shaq. But it's over now, i think he understood the mistake and i hope he'll accept Phil coming back to L.A. next year (that's what i hope).

Show me where he said that (not implied that)...

Well he criticized triangle a lot of times (Tex Winter confirmed it too), saying triangle wasnt the best system for him. Maybe he didnt call out Phil directly, but shit.. that's enought for me! He wanted to get ridd of the triangle, it's a known fact. About Shaq,well he said it when he first started to beef with him, saying Shaq shot too much and that he should start all the actions, not Shaq (from the post). Again, he probably didnt call out Shaq directly, but it's the same meaning to me. I think now Kobe is a different guy. I mean i think and i hope he understood that it was been a mistake to criticize the best coach in the NBA and the best C in the NBA. He started to play with Shaq in L.A., he didnt know how frustrating can be to play without Shaq. Now he knows it.


So what if he said the triangle wasn't best for him?...He's still never claimed that Shaq stopped his development as a player...There was a time period when Shaq was out of shape and was playing less aggressive...That's when Kobe said Shaq needed to step up, but that's about it...
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: acbaylove on March 21, 2005, 02:55:09 PM
Yeah, it was when Shaq didnt fix a problem to his foot well. Anyway it's over now, let's talk about the future not the past.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: KING VerbalAssaulta on March 21, 2005, 04:58:24 PM
HAHA...what did i tell everyone(especially those laker fans) right after the shaq trade...everything is true..kobe isnt a great player, lakers a re 500 team fighting for the playoffs..actually i thought they would put up a better fight...thank god we'll never hear another kobe jordan comparison again...we all know now kobe rode shaq and shaq was what won thos titles
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 21, 2005, 11:13:24 PM
HAHA...what did i tell everyone(especially those laker fans) right after the shaq trade...everything is true..kobe isnt a great player, lakers a re 500 team fighting for the playoffs..actually i thought they would put up a better fight...thank god we'll never hear another kobe jordan comparison again...we all know now kobe rode shaq and shaq was what won thos titles


Once again, Jordan was never placed in Kobe's situation...PeACe
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: bui21 on March 22, 2005, 10:59:59 AM
they do suck i dont even think they are gonna make the playoffs
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: KING VerbalAssaulta on March 22, 2005, 07:37:56 PM
HAHA...what did i tell everyone(especially those laker fans) right after the shaq trade...everything is true..kobe isnt a great player, lakers a re 500 team fighting for the playoffs..actually i thought they would put up a better fight...thank god we'll never hear another kobe jordan comparison again...we all know now kobe rode shaq and shaq was what won thos titles


Once again, Jordan was never placed in Kobe's situation...PeACe

exactly...jordan was never blessed with playing with the greatest center ever...he didnt need anyone to be 'the man' on his team...cause he was the man...kobe just isnt that type of player
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: doubletrouble™ on March 23, 2005, 05:47:05 AM
I hope they don't make it to tha playoff simply coz they had so many bandwagon fans tha past years, now they are losing and playing terrible i don't see anyone talking about them like once ago in my hood.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 23, 2005, 11:06:07 AM
HAHA...what did i tell everyone(especially those laker fans) right after the shaq trade...everything is true..kobe isnt a great player, lakers a re 500 team fighting for the playoffs..actually i thought they would put up a better fight...thank god we'll never hear another kobe jordan comparison again...we all know now kobe rode shaq and shaq was what won thos titles


Once again, Jordan was never placed in Kobe's situation...PeACe

exactly...jordan was never blessed with playing with the greatest center ever...he didnt need anyone to be 'the man' on his team...cause he was the man...kobe just isnt that type of player



Jordan wasn't blessed with the greatest center ever, but he was blessed with the greatest coach, along with one of the greatest forwards, playing in the greatest system ever...Does Kobe have any of those currently? I didn't think so...
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 23, 2005, 11:07:01 AM
I hope they don't make it to tha playoff simply coz they had so many bandwagon fans tha past years, now they are losing and playing terrible i don't see anyone talking about them like once ago in my hood.



Obviously, the talk of the town isn't gunna be the Lakers when they aren't even in the playoffs... ::)
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: doubletrouble™ on March 23, 2005, 11:16:55 AM
You don't understand moron , what i'm saying even though your team ain't winning that doesn't mean you can't talk about them. when tha Lakers were winning and me and my niggaz on tha block they talked about them, so what if they're losin' ?
 I'm a Clippers fan and everytime a basketball convo comes up i mention how they are playin' and how certtain players are doin' . why can't they do that?

fuckin' Jackass' on this forum reading shit and ain't understanding what people be saying..........
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 23, 2005, 11:28:46 AM
You don't understand moron , what i'm saying even though your team ain't winning that doesn't mean you can't talk about them. when tha Lakers were winning and me and my niggaz on tha block they talked about them, so what if they're losin' ?
 I'm a Clippers fan and everytime a basketball convo comes up i mention how they are playin' and how certtain players are doin' . why can't they do that?

fuckin' Jackass' on this forum reading shit and ain't understanding what people be saying..........




Don't ever label another person a moron with that kind of grammar...My point is that people don't enjoy talking about teams losing...People prefer to discuss teams that are winning and currently doing good...That doesn't make anyone less of a fan, it's just not fun to talk about your team when they're losing...I, however, am a true fan and I remain supportive of my team through thick and thin...You're just an idiot who wouldn't know a basketball if a Spalding hit you in your face...Do you think the Hakws are the talk of the town in Atlanta? Or do you truly believe that people are going crazy over the Hornets in New Orleans?...Shut the fuck up and stop posting, because you sound like a fucking retard...
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: doubletrouble™ on March 23, 2005, 11:49:55 AM
this ain't English class i must applaud you for your attempt at insulting me i refuse to read what you typed............
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: doubletrouble™ on March 23, 2005, 12:04:50 PM
I've changed my mind about not reading what you had to say and now i'm so happy i read it. I actually play Basketball i'm not tha nigga who just watch sports all my life and never play them  ::)
 When i say i play Basketball i don't mean just in my hood i actually play for a team and tha season is scheduled to open in a few days, alot of you people who say shit never participate in anything andf one more thing i'm actually on a Football team also that's plays in tha Premier Division..........

Garden Hotspurs F.C
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: hisairness on March 23, 2005, 01:55:08 PM
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Jordan wasn't blessed with the greatest center ever, but he was blessed with the greatest coach, along with one of the greatest forwards, playing in the greatest system ever...Does Kobe have any of those currently? I didn't think so...
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Right, right...funny how Kobe ran off the "greatest coach" because he didn't like the way that he did things.  Funny how "one of the greatest forwards" wasn't half of what he was with Jordan after Jordan left.  Anybody remember Scottie with the Rockets and Blazers?  All you guys are constantly saying Odom could be an all-star and he could be great and he could be...Jordan elevated Pippen to all-star status.  Kobe should be able to elevate someone of similar talent but he can't.

Did you guys watch the Lakers play the Jazz last night?  Look at Kobe's stats...he shot the whole night.  A great player wouldn't allow his team to go on four, five, and six game losing streaks.  Kobe's not great.  He just rode Shaq's coattails.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: 7even on March 24, 2005, 08:09:16 PM
Lakers are out, definitely, after losing to Denver who are currently 8th in the western conference.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Suffice on March 24, 2005, 08:10:47 PM
damn, are you watchin the game? They're getting FUCKED in the ass. 5:42 left, lakers down by 20.... it's sad. 103-83
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Javier on March 24, 2005, 08:16:12 PM
Pippen was past his prime once the Bulls era ended.  Pippen did carry the Bulls during the years Jordan left though.  Also with the Blazers he was just one win away from taking that team to the Finals.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: doubletrouble™ on March 24, 2005, 08:58:45 PM
Pippen was past his prime once the Bulls era ended.  Pippen did carry the Bulls during the years Jordan left though.  Also with the Blazers he was just one win away from taking that team to the Finals.


Pippen took tha Bulls to tha Eastern Conference Finals where tha Bulls lost in 7 games when Jordan left that IMO is something big
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: js83 on March 25, 2005, 01:42:34 AM
the way the lakers are playing this year, they dont even deserve the 8th spot...they need to trade alot of muthafuckers on the roster in the off-season...
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: acbaylove on March 25, 2005, 03:08:48 AM
It's even pointless to talk about this season for the Lakers. It's totally wasted. There are 0% chances they'll make the Play Offs, no matter the fact they lost vs Denver. Only good things that makes me feel good:

- Divac never played this season, and having another year of contract, it's very easy to trade him or to keep him to have cap space in 2007.
- George never played this season, and having another year of contract, it's very easy to trade him or to keep him to have cap space in 2007.
- Caron Butler, Chris Mihm and Chucky Atkins are 3 good backup players.
- We will have a coach next season.
- Kobe will be Lakers guest at the lottery draft, and he'll learn some humility.

Other than that, Lakers is Lakers, no matter what. So fuck all you haters! :P
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: ecrazy on March 25, 2005, 03:36:22 AM
Something Tells ME ThE CLIPPERS ARE GONNA SHOCK PEOPLE AND MAKE THE PLAYOFFS!!!

CLIPPERS!!!! IM TELLING YOU

Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Da WCC Hopar! on March 27, 2005, 01:12:01 AM
i agree wit u man sounds like u can coach the team better urself
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Perfection on March 29, 2005, 01:20:20 PM
This is what happens when you let Kobe make the decisions as to who's the coach and which players stay or go.

Turns out Kobe needs Shaq, but Shaq doesn't need Kobe.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 29, 2005, 05:26:26 PM
This is what happens when you let Kobe make the decisions as to who's the coach and which players stay or go.

Turns out Kobe needs Shaq, but Shaq doesn't need Kobe.


People are so fuckin stupid that it amazes me...Shaq doesn't need Kobe? Maybe he doesn't, but he definitely needs another superstar on his team... ::)
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: 7even on March 29, 2005, 05:37:13 PM
^^^right there you said it: Kobe is just another Superstar, which it has quite some in the NBA. He's a good player, not someone who could ever see Jordan. End of story.

Lakers and Kobe fucked up, Shaq and Miami are the winners. There's no other way to put it homie. Don't make me bring up old posts  you made claiming Im a dumbass for doubting the Lakers to make the playoffs and for considering the possibility that the Clippers might have the better record at the end of the day when the first thing turned out totally true and the second thing.. might very well happen.


Btw: Everyone that EVER claimed Shaq is holding Kobe's stats/performances/shine down, was entirely wrong. I just want everybody to acknowledge that.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: doubletrouble™ on March 29, 2005, 09:18:37 PM
People are so fuckin stupid that it amazes me...Shaq doesn't need Kobe? Maybe he doesn't, but he definitely needs another superstar on his team... ::)

Dwayne Wade is a superstar, what are you talking about........ ???


Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 29, 2005, 10:49:16 PM
People are so fuckin stupid that it amazes me...Shaq doesn't need Kobe? Maybe he doesn't, but he definitely needs another superstar on his team... ::)

Dwayne Wade is a superstar, what are you talking about........ ???




Point proven...Kobe doesn't have a Dwayne Wade on his team, and if you're comparing him to Michael Jordan, he doesn't have a Scottie Pippen...PeACe
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: acbaylove on March 30, 2005, 06:05:14 AM
Turns out Kobe needs Shaq, but Shaq doesn't need Kobe.

Facts: Miami doesnt even need the best Shaq to be where he is now. Shaq is averaging the worse stats of his entire career playing in the wackeste Conference and Division of the NBA, and he aint having an MVP season like he promised. It wasnt necessary. He's holding his energy for the Play Offs, probably. That proves that Miami is a very good team overall, with a great superstar in Wade and with a lot of role players who accepted Shaq as the leader of the team. So Shaq alone cant do shit. Shaq is having great help from the whole team including Wade, who's my MVP of the season. So Shaq needs Wade + all the role players.

Shaq moved from the West to the East (a lot easier for a C) and he pratically replaced Kobe with Wade. It's the same team Lakers was 2 years ago (2 superstars + role players) in a wackest conference. Lakers replaced Shaq with Mihm and Medvedenko. C'mon..
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: acbaylove on March 30, 2005, 06:06:49 AM
Btw: Everyone that EVER claimed Shaq is holding Kobe's stats/performances/shine down, was entirely wrong. I just want everybody to acknowledge that.

I agree with you on this. Shaq, if he's motivated, can get everyone involved included another superstar. But his relationship with Kobe ruined everything.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: acbaylove on March 30, 2005, 06:09:14 AM
Coach: HAMBLEN - P.JACKSON

C - Longley - Mihm
PF - Rodman - Odom
SF - Pippen - Butler
SG - Jordan - Kobe
PG - Harper - Atkins

6 - Kukoc - Medvedenko
7 - Kerr - T.Brown

etc..

C'mon now!!!
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 30, 2005, 02:37:56 PM
Coach: HAMBLEN - P.JACKSON

C - Longley - Mihm
PF - Rodman - Odom
SF - Pippen - Butler
SG - Jordan - Kobe
PG - Harper - Atkins

6 - Kukoc - Medvedenko
7 - Kerr - T.Brown

etc..

C'mon now!!!


Atkins is more like a BJ Armstrong...Odom should be a lot more like a Pippen to Kobe's Jordan than Butler...Kukoc is more like a Jumain Jones than a Medvadenko...I dunno...Phil Jackson can make something out of the current Lakers...PeACe
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: acbaylove on March 30, 2005, 04:37:04 PM
No doubt. But this roster aint enought anyway. Lakers needs big trades and at least another star.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: specityo on March 30, 2005, 06:34:14 PM
They ain't going to the playoffs. Oh well.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Perfection on March 31, 2005, 12:22:08 PM
People are so fuckin stupid that it amazes me...Shaq doesn't need Kobe? Maybe he doesn't, but he definitely needs another superstar on his team... ::)

Dwayne Wade is a superstar, what are you talking about........ ???




Point proven...Kobe doesn't have a Dwayne Wade on his team, and if you're comparing him to Michael Jordan, he doesn't have a Scottie Pippen...PeACe

Kobe doesn't have a Dwayne Wade on his team becuase he didn't want that knid of player on his team. Kobe doesn't want anyone on his team who might take the spotlight away fom him.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: doubletrouble™ on March 31, 2005, 01:03:15 PM
Kobe doesn't have a Dwayne Wade on his team becuase he didn't want that knid of player on his team. Kobe doesn't want anyone on his team who might take the spotlight away fom him.

^^^^^Real Talk
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: acbaylove on March 31, 2005, 01:19:06 PM
Kobe doesn't have a Dwayne Wade on his team becuase he didn't want that knid of player on his team. Kobe doesn't want anyone on his team who might take the spotlight away fom him.

Sad, but it's the true. :-\
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Doggystylin on March 31, 2005, 03:09:26 PM
hey lakers beat the knicks, lol
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 31, 2005, 03:13:43 PM
Kobe doesn't have a Dwayne Wade on his team becuase he didn't want that knid of player on his team. Kobe doesn't want anyone on his team who might take the spotlight away fom him.

Sad, but it's the true. :-\


I don't think that's true at all...If Lakers woulda traded Shaq for Nowitzki, I'm sure Kobe styill woulda' re-signed with the Lakers...I hate dumbasses like ya'll who take Kobe's will out of context...
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: R-Tistic on March 31, 2005, 04:49:06 PM
I am one of the biggest Laker fans u'll ever meet, and whenever people come to me talkin shit, I take em to my house and just point at the walls...I got hundreds of pictures and shirts of all the championships we have, and I'm like "yeah we suck this year...but I bet we got more rings than your favorite team"
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: acbaylove on April 01, 2005, 01:38:03 AM
Kobe doesn't have a Dwayne Wade on his team becuase he didn't want that knid of player on his team. Kobe doesn't want anyone on his team who might take the spotlight away fom him.

Sad, but it's the true. :-\


I don't think that's true at all...If Lakers woulda traded Shaq for Nowitzki, I'm sure Kobe styill woulda' re-signed with the Lakers...I hate dumbasses like ya'll who take Kobe's will out of context...

Man the point is that Lakers already had Shaq, the most dominant player in the league.
Kobe had to enjoy it and thank God he had a chance to play and win with him 3 titles, almost 4.
But he started to have problems with Phil Jackson and Shaq.
I aint saying Kobe is the one responsable for the distruption of the team, cause it's Buss.
But Kobe didnt understand that without Phil and Shaq = no title.
You cant simply replace Shaq with Dirk and win the title.
It's Shaq who let you win the title, man! Big Fella Shaq! Plus Kobe.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: doubletrouble™ on April 01, 2005, 04:26:41 AM
Another loss this time to Minnesota................ :)
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: OneHittaSpitta on April 01, 2005, 11:05:06 AM
lol if anybody still compares Kobe to Jordan after this season....theyre a fuckin retard lol. Kobe is good, but not nearly as good as him...or any of his fans thought he was. I still remember the rumors during the off-season that Kobe could be come a Spur...thank god that didnt happen, i would hate to miss the playoffs.  ;D
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 02, 2005, 12:26:46 AM
Kobe doesn't have a Dwayne Wade on his team becuase he didn't want that knid of player on his team. Kobe doesn't want anyone on his team who might take the spotlight away fom him.

Sad, but it's the true. :-\


I don't think that's true at all...If Lakers woulda traded Shaq for Nowitzki, I'm sure Kobe styill woulda' re-signed with the Lakers...I hate dumbasses like ya'll who take Kobe's will out of context...

Man the point is that Lakers already had Shaq, the most dominant player in the league.
Kobe had to enjoy it and thank God he had a chance to play and win with him 3 titles, almost 4.
But he started to have problems with Phil Jackson and Shaq.
I aint saying Kobe is the one responsable for the distruption of the team, cause it's Buss.
But Kobe didnt understand that without Phil and Shaq = no title.
You cant simply replace Shaq with Dirk and win the title.
It's Shaq who let you win the title, man! Big Fella Shaq! Plus Kobe.



I truely don't believe Kobe said he didn't want to play with Shaq...The media just makes you believe that, man...PeACe
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 02, 2005, 12:28:53 AM
lol if anybody still compares Kobe to Jordan after this season....theyre a fuckin retard lol. Kobe is good, but not nearly as good as him...or any of his fans thought he was. I still remember the rumors during the off-season that Kobe could be come a Spur...thank god that didnt happen, i would hate to miss the playoffs.  ;D



Jordan never was a winner without having other winners to rely on (Phil Jackson, Scottie Pippen)...Unfortunately, Kobe don't have that this season, you moron...Get that through your thick ass skull, man...PeACe
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: OneHittaSpitta on April 02, 2005, 12:53:03 PM
lol if anybody still compares Kobe to Jordan after this season....theyre a fuckin retard lol. Kobe is good, but not nearly as good as him...or any of his fans thought he was. I still remember the rumors during the off-season that Kobe could be come a Spur...thank god that didnt happen, i would hate to miss the playoffs.  ;D



Jordan never was a winner without having other winners to rely on (Phil Jackson, Scottie Pippen)...Unfortunately, Kobe don't have that this season, you moron...Get that through your thick ass skull, man...PeACe

lol the local media (radio) has been bashing him so bad. Him, and the whole Laker organization. For making the wrong moves with the Shaq situation, and from how Kobe has basically shown himself to be a selfish little baby, who wants the spotlight more then he wants to win. He would gladly take the spotlight...and lose, then have to share the spotlight....and win. Who's the one with the "thick ass skull"? The whole world sees Kobe for what he is, but you and a few other Laker fans that wont admit it. Why would you even defend this little homo so bad anyways? lol. You think he gives a shit about u? If he met u he probably wouldnt even take the time to spit on you. So you should probably just move on, and find another love interest NIK....one that will love you back lol
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: hisairness on April 02, 2005, 12:58:21 PM
lol if anybody still compares Kobe to Jordan after this season....theyre a fuckin retard lol. Kobe is good, but not nearly as good as him...or any of his fans thought he was. I still remember the rumors during the off-season that Kobe could be come a Spur...thank god that didnt happen, i would hate to miss the playoffs.  ;D



Jordan never was a winner without having other winners to rely on (Phil Jackson, Scottie Pippen)...Unfortunately, Kobe don't have that this season, you moron...Get that through your thick ass skull, man...PeACe

lol the local media (radio) has been bashing him so bad. Him, and the whole Laker organization. For making the wrong moves with the Shaq situation, and from how Kobe has basically shown himself to be a selfish little baby, who wants the spotlight more then he wants to win. He would gladly take the spotlight...and lose, then have to share the spotlight....and win. Who's the one with the "thick ass skull"? The whole world sees Kobe for what he is, but you and a few other Laker fans that wont admit it. Why would you even defend this little homo so bad anyways? lol. You think he gives a shit about u? If he met u he probably wouldnt even take the time to spit on you. So you should probably just move on, and find another love interest NIK....one that will love you back lol

LMAO.  Well said, well said.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 02, 2005, 04:05:17 PM
lol if anybody still compares Kobe to Jordan after this season....theyre a fuckin retard lol. Kobe is good, but not nearly as good as him...or any of his fans thought he was. I still remember the rumors during the off-season that Kobe could be come a Spur...thank god that didnt happen, i would hate to miss the playoffs.  ;D



Jordan never was a winner without having other winners to rely on (Phil Jackson, Scottie Pippen)...Unfortunately, Kobe don't have that this season, you moron...Get that through your thick ass skull, man...PeACe

lol the local media (radio) has been bashing him so bad. Him, and the whole Laker organization. For making the wrong moves with the Shaq situation, and from how Kobe has basically shown himself to be a selfish little baby, who wants the spotlight more then he wants to win. He would gladly take the spotlight...and lose, then have to share the spotlight....and win. Who's the one with the "thick ass skull"? The whole world sees Kobe for what he is, but you and a few other Laker fans that wont admit it. Why would you even defend this little homo so bad anyways? lol. You think he gives a shit about u? If he met u he probably wouldnt even take the time to spit on you. So you should probably just move on, and find another love interest NIK....one that will love you back lol


You're a fucking idiot...You truly believe Kobe enjoys losing and isn't in it for winning? Kobe has incredible worth ethics, anyone who's known him knows that...He's worked his ass off to get to where he is and he's always been a winner and doesn't accept losing...Kobe would give me just as much respect as Duncan would give you, so take that shit elsewhere man...PeACe
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Fuck You, Pay Me on April 02, 2005, 04:31:02 PM
kobe has the chocolate face
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: OneHittaSpitta on April 02, 2005, 06:51:19 PM
lol if anybody still compares Kobe to Jordan after this season....theyre a fuckin retard lol. Kobe is good, but not nearly as good as him...or any of his fans thought he was. I still remember the rumors during the off-season that Kobe could be come a Spur...thank god that didnt happen, i would hate to miss the playoffs.  ;D



Jordan never was a winner without having other winners to rely on (Phil Jackson, Scottie Pippen)...Unfortunately, Kobe don't have that this season, you moron...Get that through your thick ass skull, man...PeACe

lol the local media (radio) has been bashing him so bad. Him, and the whole Laker organization. For making the wrong moves with the Shaq situation, and from how Kobe has basically shown himself to be a selfish little baby, who wants the spotlight more then he wants to win. He would gladly take the spotlight...and lose, then have to share the spotlight....and win. Who's the one with the "thick ass skull"? The whole world sees Kobe for what he is, but you and a few other Laker fans that wont admit it. Why would you even defend this little homo so bad anyways? lol. You think he gives a shit about u? If he met u he probably wouldnt even take the time to spit on you. So you should probably just move on, and find another love interest NIK....one that will love you back lol


You're a fucking idiot...You truly believe Kobe enjoys losing and isn't in it for winning? Kobe has incredible worth ethics, anyone who's known him knows that...He's worked his ass off to get to where he is and he's always been a winner and doesn't accept losing...Kobe would give me just as much respect as Duncan would give you, so take that shit elsewhere man...PeACe

lol First off, Duncan COULD be and asshole...who knows. But Kobe IS an asshole...everyone knows. Second, im a Spurs fan yeah...but im not jocking Duncan like you ride Kobe man. Duncans never even my favorite player in the league lol. I didnt say he ENJOYS losing, but you know as well as anyone that Kobe did not want to play with Shaq. Do you honestly think Kobe believed the team would be BETTER without Shaq? lol. So there u go...he wanted the spotlight...not the victories. Shaq probably didnt want to play with Kobe either...but Shaq is contending for a title this year, Kobe will be watching the playoffs at home.
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 02, 2005, 07:03:06 PM
Kobe didn't like Shaq, that doesn't mean he didn't enjoy winning with Shaq...You know those happy championship moments of Kobe and Shaq together, that came along 3 times in a row...Shaq demanded the trade, Kobe didn't say shit, the media mighta' tried to make it seem like that, but there's no proof...PeACe
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: OneHittaSpitta on April 02, 2005, 08:47:50 PM
You know those happy championship moments of Kobe and Shaq together

yeah, but Shaq said the sex wasnt good anymore...lol
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 04, 2005, 01:38:17 AM
You know those happy championship moments of Kobe and Shaq together

yeah, but Shaq said the sex wasnt good anymore...lol



Naah, Kobe's Italian...Tony Parker's the French one... :-X
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: OneHittaSpitta on April 04, 2005, 02:24:23 AM
You know those happy championship moments of Kobe and Shaq together

yeah, but Shaq said the sex wasnt good anymore...lol



Naah, Kobe's Italian...Tony Parker's the French one... :-X

lol Italian....French....whateva...its all tha same to me. lol
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: acbaylove on April 04, 2005, 02:50:59 PM
Not really. ;D
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Chad on April 05, 2005, 09:38:15 AM
yes they do
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: 411 on April 06, 2005, 05:56:45 PM
NO PLAYOFFS FOR THE LAKERS
 ;D ;D ;D


Damn!....Lakers do suck now and probaly will for a few years.....anyone see the game of my home team (Phoenix) vs. the Lakers last night......Suns were just havin fun with them......
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 06, 2005, 10:34:44 PM
Suns ain't getting nowhere...I bet you anything the Lakers win another championship before the Suns do...
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: 411 on April 07, 2005, 08:57:16 AM
Suns ain't getting nowhere...I bet you anything the Lakers win another championship before the Suns do...

You Kidding? SUNS Win it this year!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 20, 2005, 10:56:58 PM
Suns ain't getting nowhere...I bet you anything the Lakers win another championship before the Suns do...

You Kidding? SUNS Win it this year!!!!!!!!!!


 :-X
Title: Re: LAKERS SUCK
Post by: TeeRaySix9Teen on June 20, 2005, 11:08:54 PM
Suns ain't getting nowhere...I bet you anything the Lakers win another championship before the Suns do...

You Kidding? SUNS Win it this year!!!!!!!!!!


 :-X

lol this was the Suns golden opportunity and they still werent good enough. When will anyone learn? You dont win a championship without defense!!!!