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Title: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: mellowmanisback on March 03, 2005, 12:29:14 PM
I can only imagine the amount of rumours and posts this topic has produced - I'm sorry for doin another one, but I thought you might want some perspective on the situation.  Just as we were moving away from 50's album and really focusing on Busta's new joint this happens.  I don't really know 50 or Game outside the studio and working environment so I'm not gonna pretend like I know what's really going on between them.   I am not surprised that Game and 50 split from each other.  I think we all knew the situation was coming to a head and I know Dre, Em and Jimmy were hoping for a peaceful solution and for Game to move off G-Unit as quietly as possible.  However, 50 obviously didn't want a peaceful and quiet solution.  It is real unfortunate that it happenned this way, but it did and it has to be handled INTERNALLY from here on out, not over the radio station.  I don't really know what 50 was thinking.  50 talks about loyalty but to me one of the most unloyal things one can do is to air out FAMILY BUSINESS in public.  50 put Dre and Em in an unfair and difficult situation.  This could have been handled in a positive way.  Obviously 50 and Game's relationship had deteriorated to a point beyond repair.  But it should have been settled as a family.  Game could have been moved off G-Unit through internal discussions and monetary settlements could have been handled fairly.  I will not take sides either way.  I don't think anyone should take sides and please don't believe all the rumours and media reports.  The media is jumping all over this and relying on false information to generate headlines and interest.  Please refrain from making judgements too soon, cause you don't really know anything besides what you heard 50 say on the radio and that game is off g-unit. Besides that eveything else is rumours and innuendo.
What has been Dre's reaction to all of this?  I won't speak for him but I know this has hurt him quite a bit, especially 50's way of handling the situation.  I know Dre was getting more and more frustrated but was hoping things could be worked out internally and they could keep a strong business and music relationship.  With 50 airing out his frustration with Dre  on the radio it only made things worse.  If 50 had a problem with Dre he should have talked to Dre about it in private.  I know 50 has a lot of respect for Dre and vice versa, thats why I don't understand his approach.  I know 50 was hoping Dre would produce a lot of The Massacre, but because 50 was so stubborn in releasing the album early in the year and sticking to his (50's) schedule Dre could only spend a small time on the album.  Dre was focusing on Game's debut album whle 50 was prepping the massacre.  Even when 50 was out here Dre had to focus on getting game ready. If 50 would have been able to wait until Game's album was mixed I think you would have heard a lot more Dre tracks on The Massacre. 50 tried to smother Game's release and only allow it 3 weeks to sell before releasing his album.  Thankfully Jimmy and Dre got it pushed backed to March. 
I really hope and pray that 50 finds some peace and gets his ego in check.  The 50 I met when he was here for a week to work on GRODT is much different than the 50 I saw when he was out here to work on the Massacre and Game's album.  The 50 I first met was humble, hungry, at ease and really fun and positive to work with.  Dre had a great time working with him.  Last year though 50 was a lot different.  I don't think he is real happy.  The dude is surrounded by bodyguards and a Army of personal secret service men at all times.  It can't be fun needing protection every waking minute of the day.  Deep down I think 50 is a good person, but right now he is confused and doesn't really listen to anyone, even his musical family. And he didn't think about the possible reprecussions of his words before he opened his mouth on the radio a few days ago.  I do know that as soon as they could the big three got a hold of 50 and told him to shut up for once, cancel his appearances and come handle the situation privately with them.  Dre and Em are really stuck in a tough situation and have been trying to put their minds together and figure out a positive solution to the problem.
What happens from here?  I hope (and think) there is a positive solution out there for this problem.  I don't think 50 and Game will have a relationship, but past that too much is upon the air to speculate or predict how it will turn out. All I ask is that people stop putting rumours out -  let this situation be handled as a family.  Let Dre, Em, 50 and Game have a chance to get together and try to work things out privately.  Hopefully 50 heeds his gag order and puts his ego and frustration aside and listens to Dre and Em and handles things the right way.  The only way this situation can be worked out is through face to face discussions with everyone working together like men and seeing if relationships can be repaired and solutions can be found.  50 (and Game too) have to learn that when it comes to family problems you can't put it out there in the media and disrespect family in public.  That's a cowards way to handle things.  Real men talk things out in private.  I might sound like I'm mad at 50.  I'm disappointed more than anything. I like the old 50 Cent and hope and pray he can make changes for the better.  I don't want to see him or Game dead because of some bullshit.  I don't want to see 50 go down this path.  Dre always stresses that you can always turn any negative into a positive.  Hopefully we can take this negative situation, learn and grow from it and turn this situation into a positive one. 
I hope everyone takes care.  PEACE.
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: Woodrow on March 03, 2005, 12:30:05 PM
Thanks for the post!
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: Larrabee on March 03, 2005, 12:36:12 PM
Much respect Mellow, thank u.
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: Đřšďĺ on March 03, 2005, 12:36:51 PM
thx for posting as always
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: E. J. Rizo on March 03, 2005, 12:38:17 PM
props for the post you are right....and the only person that fucked up was 50 in this whole situation....sounds like a lil kid starving for attention....thats just my opinion from all the audio i have heard and thats about it......but yeah this type of shit should have been handled in house....but once again props for the post...
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on March 03, 2005, 12:42:09 PM
Great post,even tho we dont know 50 personally I think everyone had enough time to notice that 50 recently has been acting all strange,& somewhat mad & confused.Im sure he's releasing false information on Game to pull down Game's sales & increase his own.Its sad cause like you said this couldlve been handled between the 2 like a man to man situation.Instead he made it public & has even got G-Unit to diss Game.It looks like money ruined them all.
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: Denial! Is Actively Joinin The Revolution on March 03, 2005, 12:43:21 PM
thanx mellow and no need to apoligise for postin info on this shit. Your posts r like dre beats every1 checks them out straight away!!!
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: STILLDRE IS THE GODFATHER on March 03, 2005, 12:45:47 PM
man i love your posts
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: ABN on March 03, 2005, 12:51:35 PM
It looks like money ruined them all.
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: eS El Duque on March 03, 2005, 01:00:32 PM
thanks for the info!
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: Lil Jay on March 03, 2005, 01:01:27 PM
Thanks for the post. 50 is so selfish its crazy.
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: Matrix Heart on March 03, 2005, 01:42:08 PM
Whatever you say  :banana_llama:
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on March 03, 2005, 01:42:55 PM
Good lookin' on the post mellow, as always, it was very informative!
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on March 03, 2005, 01:44:32 PM
Yall remember after the 50 Cent interview was put up everyone was sayin how the dude was humble & all that???LMAO
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on March 03, 2005, 01:46:22 PM
Looks like alot of people are feeling the same way about this situation. There is a poll on AOL.com called "Who do you side with in the 50 Cent-Game feud?" and it's 52% on Game's side and 48% on 50's. Crazy, how much of a following Game gained in the last year... I still trip off that.

Here is the link for those who wanna vote:

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/special2/article.adp?id=20050302014309990003
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: ABN on March 03, 2005, 01:48:43 PM
rapbasement got a similar poll and last time i checked 281 peeps sided with 50 and 281 sided with Game.
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on March 03, 2005, 01:55:15 PM
^I just voted on The Game & they both are on 300 votes
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: Matrix Heart on March 03, 2005, 01:58:18 PM
<-301

Voted for 50
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: bui21 on March 03, 2005, 02:22:21 PM
hahaah i think game can tkae 50
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: -CaliKid- on March 03, 2005, 02:22:36 PM
Thanks for the post!
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: music is like magic on March 03, 2005, 02:26:52 PM
thaks for the post i voted for game fuck 50 snitch. if anybody anit sucking his dick they unloyal.  buck going to jail, yayo and olivia flop like dead fish w/o em and dre and banks always has sucked.
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: Mr. Humonculous on March 03, 2005, 02:37:52 PM
game dissed stat quo in 200 bars and also dissed Eminem for producing for 2pac and now all the game groupies are mad at 50 because he dissed Game
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: ABN on March 03, 2005, 02:42:20 PM
game dissed stat quo in 200 bars and also dissed Eminem for producing for 2pac and now all the game groupies are mad at 50 because he dissed Game
he dissed Eminem just coz he said that people shouldn´t fuck up Pac´s legacy? he didn´t say that Eminem fucked up his legacy he said that a lot of people were fucking up his legacy and aint that the truth? and Stat Quo jumped on a Game song without permission and you think "i´m tha man Stat Quo know" qualifies as a diss?
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: music is like magic on March 03, 2005, 02:44:19 PM
he never dissed eminem. have you not heard the fucking song on documentry with eminem we ain't. "im crazy why the fuck you think im riding with shady" "shady one of the greatest like biggie and pac was" "now they call em a racist" <---all actual quotes from game my nig
and on the new green lanter 5 star general stat quo and game got a track together and they have done a track called "bottome line" so what you talking about. quote the words he said. ill pick up the lyrics right now and post them for you
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: ABN on March 03, 2005, 02:50:08 PM
stat quo and game got a track together and they have done a track called "bottome line" 
that´s the song that pissed Game off since it was his song and Stat took of some of Game´s vocals and put his own on there and put it out on his mixtape.
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: i B 2 QUIK 2 c on March 03, 2005, 02:50:47 PM
wow... thanks for the insight  8)
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: music is like magic on March 03, 2005, 02:51:26 PM
The Game talking]
What the fuck is all this noise?
He from Cali he can't rap
He ain't better than this nigga
That's my favorite artist
Fuck y'all hear the breakdown

[Verse 1: The Game]
No detox I'm comfortable dog
Like the solo Reeboks right up under me dog
And it feel like I done it before
Sit in the throne pollutin the airwaves like a hummer exhaust
Don't let Makavelli fool you homey thuggin it costs
Pour out a little liquor for the loved ones that we lost
You ain't gotta wait for the album I don't fuck with The Source
But I turn up my Eazy-E and let it bump in the Porsche
I mean turn up my B.I.G. and let it bump in the Porsche
Tell 'em to roll red carpet when he come in New York
Hip-hop police on me think they runnin New York
Till I lace my and1 show 'em how to run in New York
They tryin to take me downtown put me under the court
Cuz Joe Buddens told 'em I carry a gun New York
And homey that's strictly fact he got ripped on wax
So he snitched just to get me back
No matter what you say dog your shit be whack
You better watch what you say it might get you clapped
Here's a little advice homey switch your raps
Cuz that shit on your last album ain't get you plat's
What nigga you need a gun? I'll get you that
P-89 nigga let Dre stitch you back
??? Industry niggaz I'll admit to that
But I don't even want your chain I'll let the Crips do that
12 bars for that bitch he won't live through that
Even a nigga with a ten-year bid knew that
Put a gun in his mouth yeah, yeah do that
He a pussy (sniff, sniff) his own kid knew that
I'm +Ready To Die+ B.I.G knew that
He ain't eatin look at his white tee you could see his ribs through that
You cocksucker let your ears do that
Or ride later do me ooh wee now back to rap
2 Lincoln continentals sittin back to back
Leavin Jersey City naw nigga Hackensack
Where's that somewhere where the crackers at
Real far from where the roaches and rats is at
Come to Compton I'll show you where the racquet's at
Down the street from the staples centers where they hack-a-shack
Give the advance money back I am not have to rap
Break Harry-O out tell him crack is back
That's nine five a bird take half of that
Import it, export it in cracker jacks
When you get to the projects ask for Black
You know what you started with give him half of that
He gon give you 50 g's in a plastic sack
And i'mma gives you 3500 cash for that
Gotta keep your mouth closed or i'mma blast the Mack
They won't believe you the whole world know that bastard rap
Once you outta the throne you can't have it back
Retirement home and ain't nothing after that
Except you layin in a casket black
Suit on you can't go to heaven with timberland boots on
No subliminals I ain't talkin to you Shawn
I'm talkin to that heartless mouse with no jewels on
Who the fuck put you on
Faggot ass nigga let men toss his salad like croutons
I fuck with Fab get my DJ Clue on
Sit inside Hot 97 with no tools on
And it don't matter is it's Sway or KaySlay
Angie Martinez I'll take 'em back to k-day
They act like they forgot about Dre-day
I don't rap for Free that's why they fired AJ
It's me leaking through your stereo
Envy me is a emcee prepare for your burial
I kill niggaz without lettin the Desert blow
Razor tongue and I'm far from Haitian son
All black like the range rover wheels
niggaz whisper around The Game like The Game won't kill
Let me show you the stars take you back to the car
Rewind time march 3, 1994
I was only in my teen's deuce-deuce in my Levi's
When Nas hit the scene I was still rockin knee-highs
Runnin with my brother phase he was seventeen
Two guns in the upper waist so we hit the block
Saw niggaz from a rival gang bumpin Dre
Ran up on the '64 and that's all she wrote
We runnin through the alley like Bishop chasin ? Ass
First murder and I did that without a mask
Fast-forward see Game gettin out a Jag
Two peeps shoot on he still got his rag
Gangbangin forever he still got his swag
Let me catch you in Los Angeles without a pass
Everybody in New York know that you a fag
Come out the closet show the world how to use a pad
Speakin death on my red bandana
Naw he couldn't have said that so I raised my antennas
Look at my Nextel got a call from Santana
That nigga a pussy we just saw him in Atlanta
So I hopped on the first thing smokin to Atlanta
Pulled up at 112 ran up on that black phantom
Security hopped out no Joe in here
Just Outkast gettin ready for a show in here
So I uncocked the .44 hopped in the cherry 'lo-lo
Chrome grill with the G-Unit logo
We watched Hov go now the world waitin for my solo
I'm the man Stat Quo know
I ain't gotta explain even Bo know
Have of these rap niggaz is faker than rolls gold
Get hit in the face with the back of the .44
And pissed on tryin to play The Game with a broke nose
My bitch harder than you yeah Vita loco
I haven't sold one record got rap in a chokehold
I'm Dre certified like the leader of the band
Run up you sure to die I'll leave you where you stand
Smurf-ette runnin around New York like he the man
But he peed in his pants
When he saw us at Summer Jam
Lucky I wasn't there I had to bury my man
Or I would've terrorized New York like the Son Of Sam
What you mean terrorize New York?
I mean expose these pussy ass niggaz like I'm Too Short
Somebody tell Domination I'll leave 'em in parts
leg in Jersey, arm in Brooklyn, head buried in Central Park
He can't walk through New York no more like john Storch
Gotta call cuz i'mma break his ankles like Hot-Sauce
Ask niggaz from your hood I'm thorough like 5 boroughs
Sit on any stoop ? In the thermo
Wait till Alpo come home
Like AZ from Harlem Dre gon pay me regardless
Cuz he know Jay-Z departed
And these other rap labels know don't feed they artists
Talkin blueprint shit you got three garages
Gettin money off Roc like little E and carter
Showin off your little chain like these is flawless
Send him 50 cent a day I can see he starvin
I got R&B bitches givin me ménage's
Deep massages I could hear Eazy talkin
Tellin me to have a seat in Tamika's office
Buy Ruthless and get Lil' E involved in
Promote without that magazine in Boston
Take a couple mil make Beans a offer
Give him money we don't see that often
But it was all a dream like I seen Memph Bleek in Marcy
I ain't say you won't see Bleek in Marcy
I said my said he won't see Bleek in Marcy
I'm from Compton where niggaz used to bleed for barklies
Drive lo-lo's and we ain't need keys to start 'em
Just a little information for your summer vacation
Bring your chain cuz every nigga in L.A. waitin
Mad cuz Detroit beat the shit out the Lakers
And they'll kill you cuz Joe can't find Gary Payton
Meanwhile the throne vacant and Da Band ain't makin it
Shyne got a new deal, Def Jam gotta pay us
Ray Roy Jones got knocked out shortly after they weighed him in
niggaz got beef with G-Unit but ain't sayin shit
Quiet as a church on Tuesdays
Niggaz say they hate my music but my alerts only two ways
Nigga I'm a hazard like Michael Jackson in khakis
Touch kids but I do that with a semi-automatic
With or without traffic I pull my shit out and blast it
I'm blind to the masses like Stevie wonder without glasses
I'm a savage spit murder like a .38 Magnum
16 bars of baggum let the hook toe tag 'em
Murder any MC throw 'em in that white wagon
Let him die and come back look at 'em he white flaggin
Spreadin rumors like when I see Game I might jack 'em
I'm tellin the world he reach for my chain I might clap 'em
Cuz niggaz shot me in 2001
Took one in the heart cuz I was too proud to run
The clip was empty when the police found my gun
So I don't bring that gangbangin shit around my son
Nigga 50 took 9 he know how it feel
And I found out Buck got shot up in CaShville
And Sha Money told me Lloyd Banks got hit
And Yayo just came home G-G-G-Unit
Backstage at a D-12 concert
A fan asked me how it feel to be walkin in Snoop's converse
Niggaz show me love when they see me in the streets
But they frown when I don't wanna hear none of they beats
Nigga this shit crazy
Em said some shit when was 16 now they tryin to warn Slim Shady
I forgive him I got problems of my own
How you think the streets gon' act know that Suge home
These niggaz is birds I can see the feathers on 'em
If Doc give me the word I put this Berretta on him
When the beef is on my piece is on
Them white sheets is on 'em Doc breathin on 'em
And I got an extra clip in my Reeboks
Cuz I'm in and out my socks every time I see cops
Game got the streets locked call 9-1-1
Get the whole fuckin LAPD shot
Niggaz snitchin to the street cops
Get your nephews and your niece shot
With my heat cocked in the beach stop
Nigga witta attitude like a heard Dr. Dre doin Detox
Niggaz fightin for the throne that ain't shit
Tryin to measure the fallin legends but the shoe won't fit
Niggaz might think I'm ridin dick
Cuz I let the cemetery puttin creases in my G-Unit's
Tryin to talk Jesus Christ into lettin me dig 'em up
So they could stand side by side again and live it up
This might be the last time you hear me biggin 'em up
With suicidal thoughts bangin me and my bitch in the truck
My conscience tellin me if I put the clip in the buck
It might be loud enough to wake B.I.G and them up
What if that was P. Diddy sittin in the truck
And 2Pac was in jail the day you called to hit him up
I wouldn't be outside 40/40 bumpin 'Jigga What'
Wouldn't be sign to Dr. Dre I wonder is its luck
They got me on MTV with Banks, Fifth, and Buck
I ain't tryin to be L.A.'s king he carry a pimp cup

[The Game talking]
Snoop Dogg got the crown nigga
What the fuck y'all mad at me for
I ain't sold one fuckin record
I'm just tryin to use these 200 bars to feed my family nigga
I ain't no threat
I can't rap I'm from Compton remember
You gotta be out your motherfuckin mind
Ask KaySlay, ask Clue, ask Whoo Kid, ask Funk Flex
I'll murder anyone of you motherfuckin
G-G-G-G-Unit
Ah!
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: music is like magic on March 03, 2005, 02:57:31 PM
i got my homeboy game representing compton california  g-unit shady aftermath. those are the first words stat quo says. game says six tre impala fucka maybach.and if it was on a green lantern album or mixtape, he works for eminem so he would have to get the clearance from em. and em work for dre right? i am listening to the song right now. "from atlanta to compton we two of the best yeahh" are the last word of the song that is real talk
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: ABN on March 03, 2005, 03:02:33 PM
i got my homeboy game representing compton california  g-unit shady aftermath. those are the first words stat quo says. game says six tre impala fucka maybach.and if it was on a green lantern album or mixtape, he works for eminem so he would have to get the clearance from em. and em work for dre right? i am listening to the song right now. "from atlanta to compton we two of the best yeahh" are the last word of the song that is real talk
yea that´s what Stat says but Game doesn´t make 1 reference to bein on the song with Stat and Game posted that shit about Stat jumpin on the song without permission a long fuckin time ago. and it´s not an official record so no one of them had to get this cleared.
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: music is like magic on March 03, 2005, 03:04:21 PM
actually it is http://www.aftermathmusic.com/ammindex.html there are yiou ahppy damn the shit i do. and i think you need to re listen to the song does he have to prop stat quo to be on the song?
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: mauzip on March 03, 2005, 03:11:42 PM
I say: Fire 50
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: ABN on March 03, 2005, 03:13:27 PM
I say: Fire 50
lmao at the thought of Dre and Em sitting 50 down and tellin him Apprentice style "you´re fired!"
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: Đřšďĺ on March 03, 2005, 03:18:44 PM
I say: Fire 50
lmao at the thought of Dre and Em sitting 50 down and tellin him Apprentice style "you´re fired!"

lol.
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: mauzip on March 03, 2005, 03:22:30 PM
if i was someone's boss and that person would talk shit about me in public, i'd fire him right away

50 cent talked shit about dr. dre and about game. enough reason to fire him :-\ he's replacable
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: 'DsR' on March 03, 2005, 03:56:42 PM
Thanks for the post!
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: WeSTSidE_Don on March 03, 2005, 03:58:23 PM
thanks alot for the post man appreciate this
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: acbaylove on March 03, 2005, 04:03:59 PM
Much respect Mellow, thank u.
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: AFTERMATHMATIC on March 03, 2005, 07:35:43 PM
50 cent has been acting quite wack lately, i repsect his music, but everything is getting to his head. You don't downplay an artist from the same label like that, especially when they are fresh off releasing their debut album. Crazy ass shiet. Thanks mel.
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: _That_Cracka_J on March 03, 2005, 07:53:22 PM
Thanks for the info...

It's not good to air out your dirty laundry....I can imagine Dre's disappointment.
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: Ruthless on March 04, 2005, 09:01:47 AM
Thanks for your thoughts mellowman. It's always nice to read your posts, as it seem slike you chose your every word carefully. Props.
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: Okka on March 04, 2005, 09:46:26 AM
Thanks for the info....
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: GangstaBoogy on March 04, 2005, 09:54:19 AM
50 Cent is walkin in 2Pac's shoes right now. Loud mouthed, beefin with everybody, I hope he see where that leads...
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: Christoffer_ on March 04, 2005, 10:18:17 AM
Well, either way Mellowman, the record company that you work for is probably makin tons of cash of this little media stunt. I don`t believe a single thing about it. Don`t you guys think it`s a little odd that this happens the week before 50 cent releases his new album?
The industry is shady people, don`t believe this BS. It`s just a marketing scheme to get attention around the new 50 cent record. Shit, record company`s will do ANYTHING to make money theese days, it`s fake as fuck!
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: ABN on March 04, 2005, 10:25:58 AM
Well, either way Mellowman, the record company that you work for is probably makin tons of cash of this little media stunt. I don`t believe a single thing about it. Don`t you guys think it`s a little odd that this happens the week before 50 cent releases his new album?
The industry is shady people, don`t believe this BS. It`s just a marketing scheme to get attention around the new 50 cent record. Shit, record company`s will do ANYTHING to make money theese days, it`s fake as fuck!
yea and when peeps are doing pr stunts they usually shoot eachother ::)
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: Christoffer_ on March 04, 2005, 10:34:30 AM
get out of your imaginary bubble, kid
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: Lil Jay on March 04, 2005, 11:27:35 AM
get out of your imaginary bubble, kid

look in the mirror and say that again
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: Makaveli R.I.P. on March 04, 2005, 11:38:13 AM
thanks as always for the info
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: RZARECTA on March 04, 2005, 11:42:25 AM
damn yr good mellow
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: JERZ DEVIL on March 04, 2005, 01:44:41 PM
Mel Man's post are really insightful...the other post with the info on Dre's secret vault was straight fire. But I'm going to be honest..this post starts by telling us not to take sides...then goes into a complete biased RIPPING of 50. On one hand you don't know what 50 was thinking for airing out Family Biz in public...but then YOu air out 50 in public..and that's real talk. A lot of the stuff Game was spitting was easily as crazy as 50...in fact I think in most polls it's around 50% in saying that 50 was justified in his actions on Flex. You keep hyping up 50's ego when BOTH of those cat's have an EGO the size of a small state. If all of this stuff was REALLY supposed to be behind the scenes THEN this post wouldn't exist (even though we benefit from the insight you give us) The 50 negative criticism comes through LOUD and CLEAR(and comes off IMO a little hypocritical)  As much as you hate on 50's "schedule" etc....it's making 50  look like a genius when he makes Billboard history with 3 singles in the top 100. That would have NEVER happpened if you guys kept delaying his record. I think Massacre is a Good album...but it's a dissapointment that you guys couldn't work with your other TOP artist to get more DRE records on it...it's sad that after you sell 11 mil..you have to leak your own singles to get support for your album..sad
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: mellowmanisback on March 04, 2005, 04:21:01 PM
hey everyone.  I just wanted to stop by and add a few new comments.  I just checked out 50's mtv appearance in the lounge and I am pleased with 50 listened to Dre and Em and is keeping mum on the game situation.  Like I said yesterday morning there have been initial conversations with 50 and he was told that he could absolutely not comment on the situation and to his credit he hasn't.  Hopefully everyone can get together face to face soon and talk the situation through and try to find a way to move things forward in a positive direction.  Christoffer brings up a good point that Interscope, Gunit and Shady/Aftermath will be making a lot of money off of 50's album and that controversy sells records. And I doubt whether Jimmy is crying too much about all the controversy as the record comes out.  However I promise you that the 50/game beef is not being set up by Dre or Em.  I equally promise you that a rift between Dre and 50 and possibly Em is not something being set up to sell records.  This "media stunt" may be 50's marketing strategy to sell more records but it certaintly wasn't Dre's or Em's.  Stuff like this can destroy everything we have worked so hard to build.
Although I certainly respect JERZ DEVIL's opinion I don't agree with him.  One thing he brought up is that I didn't bring up Game in the post.  I am not taking sides with Game.  I don't know what happenned with Game and 50.  My main point was that regardless of what happenned with game and 50 (or whose fault it was) the situation should have been handled as a family in private.  We were all disappointed with 50's way of handling the situation. If the roles were reversed we all would be just as dissapointed with Game. Game has also done and said some things that dissapointed Dre and Dre has talked to him about it. If you worked with Dre you would know how important the term family is to him. You do not take family business out in the public forum like 50 did.  You just can't do that.     
As to my RIPPING of 50 I don't think I ripped him at all.  I deeply care about 50 and just want to see him have a good life, healthy and happy -  I don't want 50 to end up alone and battling the world by himself.  I don't want to see 50 dead.  I don't want to see 50 and Dre's relationship crumble either.  As far as me airing out 50 in public I don't agree with that either.  There are a lot of things that i have witnessed regarding 50 that I will never tell you about.   I haven't once told you about a private discussion I've had with someone in the family.  But maybe I'm on the wrong, I have been many times before.
As far as us "guys" pushing 50's album back you'll have to talk to Interscope and 50 about that.  In a perfect world Game's album could have come out in late 2004, 50 could have come out in mid 2005 and Em's album could have come out in November 2005.  However those 3 albums were released within 5 months of each other.  Plus we want to get Busta out and Eve, Detox, Stat out as soon as possible too.  Em wants to get his projects out and 50 wants to get his out (which he did - he got first priority from Interscope to release G unit, Banks and Buck all in a years period).  Dre's patient and a perfectionist, 50's a fast and efficient worker and impatient and Interscope wants Em in release an album every two years.  Mix those things together and its impossible to put 10 Dre tracks on each album.  Em got 8 cause he was rushed to get the album out.  We actually put in more time with 50 than Em. It's just that 50 had a lot of other tracks to choose from where as Em needed tracks to meet Interscope's release date for encore.  The only Encore tracks I feel we put enough time into was Never Enough, Encore and Mosh.  The others were way too rushed.  The 2 tracks that made the cut for 50's album had a lot of time put into them and I think it shows as far as quality goes.  If we would have had a few more months for The Massacre I'm sure we would have got more time with 50 and been able to finish up other tracks we had worked on.  It's just that with Dre finishing up mixing The Documentary in late Dec and 50 wanting to get his album out in Feb, it was impossible to get together again and have time to put in the work neccessary to get more Dre tracks on 50's album.  This is no way a criticism of 50.  I too think the massacre is a pretty good album and will sell a lot of records.  Its just unfair, in my opinion, to criticize Dre for only having 2 tracks on the album.  50 wanted to get his album out and didn't want to wait on Dre.  I have no problem with that. 50 works extremely hard and has a lot of things on his plate.  I just totally disagree with criticizing Dre for not paying enough attention to 50.  So with much respect to you and your opinion JERZ DEVIL hopefully this helps you and everyone else get a little more background of the situation.  Its time for me to shut up for a while. To close I think once dre, em and 50 sit down and talk a positive solution will come out of it.  By the time 50's prepping his 3rd album Dre will be done with Detox and hopefully him and 50 can get together for more than a few weeks and pound out 8 to 10 tracks.  Peace.
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: wilz on March 04, 2005, 04:52:36 PM
got to say props for the posts.

Also i thot that some people missed the point and message in the first post. mainly the poster Music is like Magic. it was suggested that no one takes sides or passes judjement on this thread and MLM and others took sides and heavily dissed the other
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: JERZ DEVIL on March 04, 2005, 05:57:42 PM
Mel i got to admit..your post are priceless... As for my response to your last post; I only called it like i saw it. You even mentioned how you could be perceived as being "mad at 50". But with that said...what you just told us was CRYSTAL CLEAR as to how challenging it is to get enough records out for the amount of artists you all take on.  Why then was this not communicated to 50, who sounded just as logical with his grievances of the lack of support? It's clear that you guys can only take on so much and put out quality product up to your standards! Believe it or not..that was groundbreaking news on Em's album being rushed...we all speculated it..but for someone of your insight to verbalize it makes complete sense now. A lot of people still wonder what would have happened if that 'Mosh' record would have been released a month prior. But a few more records from your crew were definately needed for Encore and that's just real talk. The only way to move on positively is to do a joint press conference showing unity with Dre/Em and all the camps involved...Because when you have SOHH reporting that Game has a diss record coming out with Jada and others..it really puts a dark shadow on what it sounds like you are trying to accomplish. With Game doing #'s and50  (I can't even speculate on Massacre #'s after I witnessing that craziness in the stores yesterday) It's just a testement to the great work that you all put in...but in the end it all leads to 'DETOX'..pls don't rush it..a record with all AFTERMATH artists and special guest appearances....DRE's swan song...we might witness something historical that may never be topped...but from the sounds of your post and what is evident in the public view..if Dre doesn't reel his extended 'family' in we could be witnessing a tragedy...Keep those posts coming..we all appreciate them
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: music is like magic on March 04, 2005, 07:48:18 PM
i sure the fuck hope that dre dont give 50 cent shit and continue to work with game.  that is my real opinion. the only unloyal motherfucker is 50 . tell me what beef 50 cent get in for game and then the other way around. or anybody form g-unit shit exasctly even eminem and dre.
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: doubletrouble™ on March 04, 2005, 11:02:19 PM
I don't think he is real happy.  The dude is surrounded by bodyguards and a Army of personal secret service men at all times.  It can't be fun needing protection every waking minute of the day.


LOL........this is why he talks all this tough talk ths niggaz is loaded wiit security  :laugh:
Title: Re: the 50/game situation (sorry for yet another post)
Post by: T-Dogg on March 04, 2005, 11:38:08 PM
Shit... this whole situation is real fucked up. When I'm on leave from the army I wanna come to DubCNN and read the happy-kind of news, like how some new up & coming cat got his deal and is bringing some heat, or how some favourite of mine is pounding out new hot material. Thos is just the kind of shit I don't wanna read about.

Hope they can resolve this shit in-house from now on, and hopefully they can keep that house together. It would be too bad if things like this would escalate and Aftermath would end up being another Death Row - a powerhouse full of talent with a grip over the rap game, only to crumble into pieces and end up unrepairable.

Fuck this, they all need to sit down and get their heads straightened out and continue to produce dope music.