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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Chamillitary Click on January 19, 2015, 07:37:30 AM
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Line in Vegas opened at Seahawks -2.5 & overnight went to a pick 'em.
Gonna have to go against the public if the trend continues lol.
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PATRIOTS GOT THIS
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PATRIOTS GOT THIS
WHERE'S YOUR LOVE FOR THE WEST CUZ
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I'm going to be the biggest Hawks fan on the planet these next two weeks. I hope its a 52-0 Beat down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unless Brady gets injured, then I hope Garopolo and the boys win in a route.
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PATRIOTS GOT THIS
WHERE'S YOUR LOVE FOR THE WEST CUZ
U RIGHT, IM CHANGIN MY PREDICTION
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I'm going to be the biggest Hawks fan on the planet these next two weeks. I hope its a 52-0 Beat down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unless Brady gets injured, then I hope Garopolo and the boys win in a route.
In all honesty, if Brady wins, will you contemplate suicide?
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Cham, what is your obsession with suicide lately? :eh:
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Cham, what is your obsession with suicide lately? :eh:
As I get older, I realize how truly miserable half the people on this website are.
Just trying to lead them in the right direction for those extra three feet they need to go.
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Cham, what is your obsession with suicide lately? :eh:
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Don't do it Cham, the world needs you
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Don't do it Cham, the world needs you
lmaoo
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Go Pats.
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I'm going to be the biggest Hawks fan on the planet these next two weeks. I hope its a 52-0 Beat down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unless Brady gets injured, then I hope Garopolo and the boys win in a route.
In all honesty, if Brady wins, will you contemplate suicide?
If I can make it through three Aikman rings, I can it through 4 Brady rings. And my problem isn't with Brady, its with his stupid fans.
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#DEFLATEGATE
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seahawks
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Brady lying through his dick in that press conference lol.
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what he say?
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He had absolutely no idea. Didn't notice the difference.
But tried to make it seem like the ball boy took it upon himself to deflate the balls...despite Brady saying he likes the football a particular weight.
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and didnt belichik try to pin it on brady?
the fuckery is strong on this one
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They probably have the closest player/coach relationship in history. I couldn't see that.
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Bill Belechick is an absolute mad man when it comes to attention to detail. The guy is incredibly shrewd and one of the more intelligent minds in sports. The Patriots are the most buttoned down organization in football, everyone falls in line because that's what Belechick wants. The guy make sure he knows every detail about every setting, opponent, etc. There is no way in hell he idn't know that was going on. Meanwhile, the league was willing to suspend Marshawn last week for wearing gold cleats but they're not gonna do shit here to affect the Superbowl.
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they're not gonna do shit here to affect the Superbowl.
They're absolutely not gonna fuck with the Super Bowl in the slightest. The NFL cares more about branding itself to outsiders and new markets than the actual game of football. Maybe they'll strip draft picks next season, but they won't do anything to degrade the attraction of their big event.
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I hope Brady throws at least 1 pick 6 in this game and the Seahawk that scores it grabs a prop, a ball pump, and runs it over to Brady after the play. "Here, you might need this". It'll be the best 15 yards any player could ever get penalized for.
I could care less about this game now. Its already tainted, and the details behind all the way the Patriots cheated over the years will be coming out in our life time. The 2000s Pats will end up looking worse than the 1919 Whitesox. Let them have a 4th ring for all I care. The second this league gets a new Commish, after the final straw in the dirtbad life of Goodell is drawn, that commish will be the Mountain Landis of Football. HE'll do whatever he can to clean up the rotten image of the NFL.
Spygate will come back with more and more details about how Goodel covered it up, just like he tried to cover this up. Jesus is Alive!
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He's the greatest QB of all-time if he wins.
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They probably have the closest player/coach relationship in history. I couldn't see that.
From what I hear from people that have covered the team around there, the relationship off the field actually isn't close at all. Not that they don't work great together as far as football, but the idea that they have this father/son relationship is actually pretty far from the truth. Maybe was like that at one point but not anymore.
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brady lying his ass off :laugh:
he's getting ripped apart today
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He's the greatest QB of all-time if he wins.
No way. History will never put him above Montana because of all the asterisks connected to the Patriots and how it benefited Brady.
I've accepted long ago that Brady will almost certainly be remembered better than Manning and ranked. But thats just the stupidity of people. Jeter will go down ranked higher on the all time great list than Ken Griffey Jr. Big fucking deal. Perception means nothing to me.
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He's the greatest QB of all-time if he wins.
he'll never be viewed as better than Joe Montana. Hell, he's not even Bart Starr level of greatness yet.
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He wins, it's all Brady.
You act like this is his last hoorah. Nigga's got like 4 seasons of contention.
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He wins, it's all Brady.
You act like this is his last hoorah. Nigga's got like 4 seasons of contention.
4 in 8 years with no accusation of cheating will never be trumped by a guy with so many allegations. Brady could 4peat starting this season and people will still ask, ok how did they cheat to win these last 4.
And if that 2nd frequency rumour ever ended up being true then Brady would be more looked down upon by sportwriters than Pete Rose and Barry Bonds combined.
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now we know why the Patriots never fumble the ball at home :laugh:
cham is a pats fan his opinion is invalid
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belichick just released a statement basically blamin the whole thing on science
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belichick just released a statement basically blamin the whole thing on science
lmao!! the 1 undeflated ball + Colts balls must be magic then
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belichick just released a statement basically blamin the whole thing on science
lmao!! the 1 undeflated ball + Colts balls must be magic then
Fuck and it turns out him and Brady are lieing and knew all along then they will get fried for this. I'm sure Bill was already told by Goodel that it'll be over and done with soon. If Roger won't let Bill hang for the tapes, she sure won't for the balls. The only problem that may arise is if a frustrated and fed up congress gets involved and send in the FBI to interrogate.
https://www.youtube.com/v/kAxo4pCITRM
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the problem is that no one will be able to prove shit
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the problem is that no one will be able to prove shit
Jay Glazier says the NFL has a suspect on the patriots staff and video proof of him doing this
problem is, this guy is gonna be the fall guy and pretend it was all on him ::)
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I'm in Greece for a wedding. So I'll be watching the game in a 24 hour gambling store in Athens. They have one every few blocks. I just 50 EUROS on the Seahawks to win by over 30 points. Dont expect to win but the payput is $4000 us dollars. GO HAWKS!!!!
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I'm in Greece for a wedding. So I'll be watching the game in a 24 hour gambling store in Athens. They have one every few blocks. I just 50 EUROS on the Seahawks to win by over 30 points. Dont expect to win but the payput is $4000 us dollars. GO HAWKS!!!!
crazy spread
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Time for Russell Wilson to bury Tom Brady and piss on his grave.
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I'm in Greece for a wedding. So I'll be watching the game in a 24 hour gambling store in Athens. They have one every few blocks. I just 50 EUROS on the Seahawks to win by over 30 points. Dont expect to win but the payput is $4000 us dollars. GO HAWKS!!!!
crazy spread
in Greece they have multiple spreads for both teams, and just raise the odds. NE to win by 30 is 75 to 1. It ranges from win by 1, 1.8 to 1 to win y 4to 14 to 31. I picked the highest I could just for kicks.
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I'm in Greece for a wedding. So I'll be watching the game in a 24 hour gambling store in Athens. They have one every few blocks. I just 50 EUROS on the Seahawks to win by over 30 points. Dont expect to win but the payput is $4000 us dollars. GO HAWKS!!!!
crazy spread
in Greece they have multiple spreads for both teams, and just raise the odds. NE to win by 30 is 75 to 1. It ranges from win by 1, 1.8 to 1 to win y 4to 14 to 31. I picked the highest I could just for kicks.
a euro who loves NFL football? how? lol
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I'm in Greece for a wedding. So I'll be watching the game in a 24 hour gambling store in Athens. They have one every few blocks. I just 50 EUROS on the Seahawks to win by over 30 points. Dont expect to win but the payput is $4000 us dollars. GO HAWKS!!!!
crazy spread
in Greece they have multiple spreads for both teams, and just raise the odds. NE to win by 30 is 75 to 1. It ranges from win by 1, 1.8 to 1 to win y 4to 14 to 31. I picked the highest I could just for kicks.
a euro who loves NFL football? how? lol
Greek by descent, and I only visited Greece for the first time last year. Born and raised in Toronto Ontario and had a lot of family in Buffalo; childhood Bills fan. In Greece the NFL and American Football are not known by anyone really. I'm the only one in this gambling store that gives a shit and only 1 of 12 TVs is showing the game. Just here for a wedding that was last night.
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here we shgo
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I'm not seeing the same ferocity by the Seahawks D as last year. A few stupid alignments and a lot of not so hard hits. I wish they played like this last year. Lets see if they step it up in the 2nd half.
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your bet had a realistic chance if Seattle woulda scored at the end of the third .. still possible
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Seahawks lose on dumbass play call .. Russell Wilson fuckin up .. Seattle got mad and started a lil brawl wit the patriots,
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For all my conspiracy theory BS I never really believe it. But those last two Seattle plays make me wonder if this league is fixed. Why on earth do you call a pass play, and why on earth do you jump off side on an almost certain safety and a chance to get the ball back.
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just wanted to check in so nobody thinks i killed myself off this outcome
worst call in sports history. my love for the NFL deflated about 50% today.
i'm about to declare to NBA and MLB my two favorite sports :'(
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i'm about to declare to NBA and MLB my two favorite sports :'(
i declared the NBA as my favorite sport 6 years ago after i realized how the NFL was declining.
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just wanted to check in so nobody thinks i killed myself off this outcome
worst call in sports history. my love for the NFL deflated about 50% today.
i'm about to declare to NBA and MLB my two favorite sports :'(
what makes even less sense was on the first Pats play after the int. The NFL and media are all reporting it like the game ended at the zeroes on that pick, but on the half yard line the Pats were in victory forrmation when Bennet jumped the line, after a center head nod no less. Anyway. If Brady takes a knee its a safety. That would have left Seattle with almost 20 seconds a timeout and down by 2. There was no reason to be so aggresive on defense there.
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^They weren't going to knee a safety. They were going to push Tom forward twice. But the Seahawks showed their classlessness.
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^They weren't going to knee a safety. They were going to push Tom forward twice. But the Seahawks showed their classlessness.
I said if it was a knee. I dont know if the plan was safety, bit it may have been. The formation looked weak, meaning no one behind Brady to help push or catch a possible fumble. The jump was stupid because Brady would have taken the snap in the endzone and a safety was very likely
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#1 all-time.
Damn, we just watched MJ.
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#1 all-time.
Damn, we just watched MJ.
Michael Jackson was an icon. The king of choreographed entertainment. Brady is a close second. With Britney Spears a 3rd./
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lol
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https://twitter.com/JimTrotter_NFL/status/562091211503063040
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Easily the most painful loss I've ever sat through. Obviously nothing like losing the Sonics, but it doesn't get much worse than that.
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Easily the most painful loss I've ever sat through. Obviously nothing like losing the Sonics, but it doesn't get much worse than that.
In ALL SERIOUSNESS. The fix was in. Carroll and Quinn went out of their way to align the defense in a way that would allow New England to move the ball. And that last play was a plain and simple set up. I don't know if Wilson was in on it. He wouldn't have to be per se. It wasn't as bad as Earl Morall being in on the fix in SB 3. You just need to practice that play a lot and make sure Russell is coached to go for the throw regardless.
As to why Carroll and Bevel would call that play. I'm torn between the straight firward fix, or the lets make it obvious fix; like when Roberto Duran walked out of the ring against Leonard. ts ridiculous to hear sports commentaters spin it now. They make it seem like Duran was so ill prepared for Leonard and so frustrated at his technique that he just quit out of the fact that he knew he was done. Yet, when it happened it was clear to most credible boxing newsletters that Duran was just walking out of a dive he was told to take and made it obvious to the crowd that a fix was in.
These things really do happen in sports, yet people only believe the ones that were caught, tried and convicted. Its like thinking that the only athletes on steroids are the ones that have been caught, and the rest weren't.
Just don't beat yourself up over something that was predetermined.
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So you think it's flat out scripted, yet talk about Peyton Manning like he's carving up defenses on his own?
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So you think it's flat out scripted, yet talk about Peyton Manning like he's carving up defenses on his own?
I've heralded Peyton's ball placement, something you cant script. Its like scripting a Shawn Michaels match and subbing Hogan in for Shawn. The match changes.
Peyton's wins and losses could very well be part of the show though. If someone told me Grossman was in on the fix I'd have no problem accepting that.
I'm not a hypocrite. I'll never try to have my cake and eat it too.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm all in on Vegas making their nut. But there's no way players & coaches are in on that & it's not scripted.
Like in the NBA, if there is an Over/Under that Vegas wans to go under, the referees will call the call the game a specific way to reduce scoring if they can; no doubt in my mind about that. Or you'll see some shady ass shit when the spread of a game is 7.5 & the dog is down 12 with a minute to go.
But there's no way in the world some guy is telling a James Harden, "hey bud, you need to chill out tonight, miss some shots, we need the game under 204" or "you need to lose".
Me & my friends did use to joke though that LeBron was in on it & got a cut from Vegas when the money was overwhelmingly on him & he rolled over lmao.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm all in on Vegas making their nut. But there's no way players & coaches are in on that & it's not scripted.
Like in the NBA, if there is an Over/Under that Vegas wans to go under, the referees will call the call the game a specific way to reduce scoring if they can; no doubt in my mind about that. Or you'll see some shady ass shit when the spread of a game is 7.5 & the dog is down 12 with a minute to go.
But there's no way in the world some guy is telling a James Harden, "hey bud, you need to chill out tonight, miss some shots, we need the game under 204" or "you need to lose".
Me & my friends did use to joke though that LeBron was in on it & got a cut from Vegas when the money was overwhelmingly on him & he rolled over lmao.
PLAYERS CAN JUST AS EASILY BE IN ON A FIX...IT'S NOT SOMETHING NEW
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No way would the league trust a kid to keep a secret that would destroy trillion dollar industries.
Players in the NBA can't get fouled without overreacting.
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No way would the league trust a kid to keep a secret that would destroy trillion dollar industries.
Players in the NBA can't get fouled without overreacting.
IT DOESNT NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE THE LEAGUE IMPOSING THESE FIXES...DONT U KNOW HOW THESE THINGS WORK?
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Don't get me wrong, I'm all in on Vegas making their nut. But there's no way players & coaches are in on that & it's not scripted.
Like in the NBA, if there is an Over/Under that Vegas wans to go under, the referees will call the call the game a specific way to reduce scoring if they can; no doubt in my mind about that. Or you'll see some shady ass shit when the spread of a game is 7.5 & the dog is down 12 with a minute to go.
But there's no way in the world some guy is telling a James Harden, "hey bud, you need to chill out tonight, miss some shots, we need the game under 204" or "you need to lose".
Me & my friends did use to joke though that LeBron was in on it & got a cut from Vegas when the money was overwhelmingly on him & he rolled over lmao.
Do I whole heartedly believe that this last game was a fix? No. But it really looked like one to me.
Do I think a fix means a full out scripted game? No. I think it would be way too hard to keep that stuff hush hush, especially in the modern cell phone camera world. A coach telling his players we are throwing the game, or the league telling players as they enter the league that it isn't real but keep you mouth shut, seems way too impossible to go with out a lot of people coming forward.
Secrets like that can only be known by a few. The only players that may be few enough that have a shot at holding on to this kind of secret are the QBs, but even then I'm not outright saying they are all in on it.
And its a lot harder to do it these days because of two major factors; the size of the current media which I mentioned, and the salaries of the players. Telling a QB in the 60s to throw a game can be done with a very little money and completely change his life. If Earl Morral gets paid in the thousands and you offer him 2 mil, he goes from having to think about how he is going to provide for his family after football, to never having to think about it. Where as today most starting QBs never have to think about it regardless.
The other way is threats, but you'd think that would have come out somewhere over the years too.
But the league, the Refs, and the coaches can easily all be in on it. Most HCs and OCs, DCs want a life long job and need to remain in the graces of the owners. And the owners are a tight knit group of dirty crooks at the very top of a very evil food chain.
I don't know the reason why they would fix a game this day and age. It could be as simple as all the owners and interested parties betting one way against the public and taking it to the bank. It could be as complicated as social engineering.
I do believe for a fact that the league changes its rules to help the pocket passing QB for the sole reason that the pocket passing QB is the the last great white athlete in American sports. And it seems odd to me that the last two black scrambling QBs to end Superbowls ended them by being given pass plays, when they could have ran it in themselves. Do I think for sure that the league fixed it to let the people think the young athletic black guy isn't smart enough to play QB? No, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Tom Brady is the guy the NFL wants to herald the most, much more than Peyton because Brady can be sold to a large crowd that isn't a huge fan of Football. Peyton has a much more hunky dory image.
So if the league was fixed and I was running it and wanted to make Brady the biggest name in the biz, I would allow the Hawks to juice up and kill the Broncos only have a steroid tested injured Hawks get beat the next year. But all that would have meant the onside kick was a fix in the Green Bay game. I'm not sure it was.
Who, knows. But I do think Carroll threw game with that call. I'm just not 100% certain of it, like I am of Liston taking the dive against Ali.
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The only conspiracy I believe about the play call is that Carroll wanted to make Russell the hero by throwing the game winning pass. Because he's an average QB with arguably the greatest supporting cast a guy can have & they want to make him out to be some top 10 QB.
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The only conspiracy I believe about the play call is that Carroll wanted to make Russell the hero by throwing the game winning pass. Because he's an average QB with arguably the greatest supporting cast a guy can have & they want to make him out to be some top 10 QB.
Thats actually the one I can't believe in because of the calibre of the playcall. It was designed to fail. Wilson was lucky it got through the d-line. You can throw up the middle in the endzone from the one but you have to take the safety out of the play first and lob it over the line. Any dart pass is playing with fire.
If he wanted to make Russel a star they could have ran Lynch from the spot he was in back to the other side to draw at least one corner and DE to the right and Russel may have ran it up the gut himself like a wildcat play, or if Lockette was wide open just dart it to him if Ninkovich is out of the way chasing Lynch. And if no one chases Lynch then its an easy lob pass to him for the win.
its not that it was such a bad play in hindsight. Its that it was such a bad play in the moment. The second I saw Russel drop back I started laughing. I'm not that smart. Everyone on the field should have known the secnd they heard the call.
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LOL.... ;D ;D. When did my ficca Shall-dawg become so funny, lol@it bein a fix
Easily the most painful loss I've ever sat through. Obviously nothing like losing the Sonics, but it doesn't get much worse than that.
In ALL SERIOUSNESS. The fix was in. Carroll and Quinn went out of their way to align the defense in a way that would allow New England to move the ball. And that last play was a plain and simple set up. I don't know if Wilson was in on it. He wouldn't have to be per se. It wasn't as bad as Earl Morall being in on the fix in SB 3. You just need to practice that play a lot and make sure Russell is coached to go for the throw regardless.
As to why Carroll and Bevel would call that play. I'm torn between the straight firward fix, or the lets make it obvious fix; like when Roberto Duran walked out of the ring against Leonard. ts ridiculous to hear sports commentaters spin it now. They make it seem like Duran was so ill prepared for Leonard and so frustrated at his technique that he just quit out of the fact that he knew he was done. Yet, when it happened it was clear to most credible boxing newsletters that Duran was just walking out of a dive he was told to take and made it obvious to the crowd that a fix was in.
These things really do happen in sports, yet people only believe the ones that were caught, tried and convicted. Its like thinking that the only athletes on steroids are the ones that have been caught, and the rest weren't.
Just don't beat yourself up over something that was predetermined.
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LOL.... ;D ;D. When did my ficca Shall-dawg become so funny, lol@it bein a fix
Easily the most painful loss I've ever sat through. Obviously nothing like losing the Sonics, but it doesn't get much worse than that.
In ALL SERIOUSNESS. The fix was in. Carroll and Quinn went out of their way to align the defense in a way that would allow New England to move the ball. And that last play was a plain and simple set up. I don't know if Wilson was in on it. He wouldn't have to be per se. It wasn't as bad as Earl Morall being in on the fix in SB 3. You just need to practice that play a lot and make sure Russell is coached to go for the throw regardless.
As to why Carroll and Bevel would call that play. I'm torn between the straight firward fix, or the lets make it obvious fix; like when Roberto Duran walked out of the ring against Leonard. ts ridiculous to hear sports commentaters spin it now. They make it seem like Duran was so ill prepared for Leonard and so frustrated at his technique that he just quit out of the fact that he knew he was done. Yet, when it happened it was clear to most credible boxing newsletters that Duran was just walking out of a dive he was told to take and made it obvious to the crowd that a fix was in.
These things really do happen in sports, yet people only believe the ones that were caught, tried and convicted. Its like thinking that the only athletes on steroids are the ones that have been caught, and the rest weren't.
Just don't beat yourself up over something that was predetermined.
I've been calling sporting events fixed for years. Look at any of my posts in World Cup threads. I even called the tuck rule game and the SB that year fixed, and this was when I was still rooting for Brady.
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#1 all-time.
Damn, we just watched MJ.
Michael Jackson was an icon. The king of choreographed entertainment. Brady is a close second. With Britney Spears a 3rd./
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