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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Sccit on June 24, 2016, 01:38:00 PM
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Daz out on Instagram posting his royalty numbers he gets every 90 days .. Shits impressive, to say the least..Posted up only 1 of 4 groups he gets paid from, here's a couple screen shots
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dazdillinger: "WHEN ALL EYEZ ON ME MOVIE COME OUT AWWWW CUZ zzzzzzzzzzzz THIS IS WHAT PUBLISHING ROYALTIES ADD UP 2EVERY 90 DAYZ THIS IS JUS BMG PUB NOT INCLUDING UNIVERSAL PUB OR WARNER PUB OR SONY PUB WHICH I HAVE DEALS WITH ALL 4 of THEM FOR THE SAME SONGs SO ITS INTERNATIONAL & DOMESTIC PLUS BMI ASACP SOUNDEXCHANGE PLUS ALBUM DIGITAL SALES & CD SALE & SHOWS NOW THATS INDEPENDENCE FUC THE MAJOR NOW"
And this jus a small portion .. Musicians, get your paperwork right.
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nice
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Damn
Thanks sccit
That's something I asked for a long time
Could someone explain me a little how royalties really work??
Radio plays?
CD?
Streaming?
??????
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Is Sccit getting this money???? hell no selling his fuckin weak album under the bridge where he´s living.
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Is Sccit getting this money???? hell no selling his fuckin weak album under the bridge where he´s living.
Are u fucking bitches like the 1 in ur sig?
No..
But I am
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Is Sccit getting this money???? hell no selling his fuckin weak album under the bridge where he´s living.
Are u fucking bitches like the 1 in ur sig?
No..
But I am
YES, why you asking?? wanna give me your dirty ass hoes??? i don´t take them but you can send me those 2 songs...pm me ;D
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Is that FERHAT?
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Is that FERHAT?
Yes
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Is that FERHAT?
Yes
Yes sir!!!!!!!! all jokes aside can i get a link?
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I'm assuming Daz did production on G'z and Hustlaz or did her write some of Snoops raps? :laugh:
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When Daz was on Drink Champs, he did talk about how he got his paperwork right. But I'm impressed he's still pulling in this kind of money from 20-25 year old songs.
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Something can't be entirely right here. Are we to believe that Daz makes $20,000+ every 90 days on these old songs? That just seems impossible. Maybe this is what it adds up to after a longer period? Or maybe these are exceptionally high figures, which is why he's posting them?
Do the Outlawz get royalties like this from Pac songs? I'd be inclined to guess that they don't, since they always seem kinda broke and needy.
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Something can't be entirely right here. Are we to believe that Daz makes $20,000+ every 90 days on these old songs? That just seems impossible. Maybe this is what it adds up to after a longer period? Or maybe these are exceptionally high figures, which is why he's posting them?
Do the Outlawz get royalties like this from Pac songs? I'd be inclined to guess that they don't, since they always seem kinda broke and needy.
Daz's money is going to be better. Remember that he has production credits, and the royalties for those tend to be more profitable.
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The question is, does this include Soopafly's cut? In anther interview he mentioned owning his publishing too. Either way, I find it hard to believe Daz is really getting this much paper every 90 days?
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Consider how much play pac music still get, I don't doubt it
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he spends all this on crack
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he spends all this on crack
lol, classic
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he spends all this on crack
Agent
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It's amazing to think that a dude who supposedly sees ca. $200,000 every 90 days in royalties still hasn't paid back the fans of his who he "ganked" back in the day.
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i don't believe it but i'm sure he's making money
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Something can't be entirely right here. Are we to believe that Daz makes $20,000+ every 90 days on these old songs? That just seems impossible. Maybe this is what it adds up to after a longer period? Or maybe these are exceptionally high figures, which is why he's posting them?
Do the Outlawz get royalties like this from Pac songs? I'd be inclined to guess that they don't, since they always seem kinda broke and needy.
Seems a little disproportionate to me too but maybe it's owed to that judgement from DR he got a while back that hasn't been paid to him. Maybe they gave him greater publishing proceeds to accelerate the payout to him. DR was basically insolvent when he won that approx 25mm dollar payout from them whenever that was,
If I had to guess, I'd say that Daz was awarded some if not all of Suge's publishing on some songs
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None of it makes any sense to me. Cause if Daz is making this kind of bread from these songs then other people involved also got to be making this kind of money off the songs, then the label is supposedly making all these profits, etc. then it all comes back to---who is footing the bill for all this?
The radio play thing makes the least sense to me of all. I mean people aren't even really buying albums anymore, but songs are still being spun at the same rate. So it would be impossible for labels to still be paying these artists when money isn't coming in from record sales.
Where is this money coming from? The only revenue streams I can think of for labels are album sales, and then the rare chance a song gets used in a movie or commercial and they profit off that.
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Something can't be entirely right here. Are we to believe that Daz makes $20,000+ every 90 days on these old songs? That just seems impossible. Maybe this is what it adds up to after a longer period? Or maybe these are exceptionally high figures, which is why he's posting them?
Do the Outlawz get royalties like this from Pac songs? I'd be inclined to guess that they don't, since they always seem kinda broke and needy.
daz always been about his bread..thats one u can always say about him..he did not let anybody fuck him over when it comes to his money...mustard jackin beats..daz suing...gta usin his production..daz suing..he sued suge
pac nor the outlaws prolly dont get anything..pac didnt start gettin his money until death row exchanged hands n he was long gone..before..pac didnt see shit..except what suge allowed him to see..
do u really thing the outlaws had it better than pac..nah
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None of it makes any sense to me. Cause if Daz is making this kind of bread from these songs then other people involved also got to be making this kind of money off the songs, then the label is supposedly making all these profits, etc. then it all comes back to---who is footing the bill for all this?
The radio play thing makes the least sense to me of all. I mean people aren't even really buying albums anymore, but songs are still being spun at the same rate. So it would be impossible for labels to still be paying these artists when money isn't coming in from record sales.
Where is this money coming from? The only revenue streams I can think of for labels are album sales, and then the rare chance a song gets used in a movie or commercial and they profit off that.
Streaming music is now also a revenue... think Apple Music, Spotify, etc.
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None of it makes any sense to me. Cause if Daz is making this kind of bread from these songs then other people involved also got to be making this kind of money off the songs, then the label is supposedly making all these profits, etc. then it all comes back to---who is footing the bill for all this?
The radio play thing makes the least sense to me of all. I mean people aren't even really buying albums anymore, but songs are still being spun at the same rate. So it would be impossible for labels to still be paying these artists when money isn't coming in from record sales.
Where is this money coming from? The only revenue streams I can think of for labels are album sales, and then the rare chance a song gets used in a movie or commercial and they profit off that.
it makes alot of sense...streams are givin artist a new lane to get paid n go gold or platinum..
daz may be an asshole..but the dude..paid attention and learn game from quik n dre...2 of west coast finest..who were fucked over by labels multiple times..
then u had snoop n pac who was gettin fucked over by death row..daz has always been surrounded by niggas who he could learn from..daz resume is impressive.. jermaine dupri, mike dean, dj quik, dr dre,..not to many assholes can say they learned from those ppl
money is out there to be still made...new fans are born everyday...u got niggas still stuck in the 90s on here...n constantly bringin up old shit...n u got youngsters tryin 2 see wha the fuss is about when u got new school cats needin the support..but the larry holmes niggas stuck in a time zone..
so instead of the ygs buyin the albums..they simply stream it...
Streaming music is now also a revenue... think Apple Music, Spotify, etc.
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Fuck the hatin' ass fucks on here Daz, get that ca$h!
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None of it makes any sense to me. Cause if Daz is making this kind of bread from these songs then other people involved also got to be making this kind of money off the songs, then the label is supposedly making all these profits, etc. then it all comes back to---who is footing the bill for all this?
The radio play thing makes the least sense to me of all. I mean people aren't even really buying albums anymore, but songs are still being spun at the same rate. So it would be impossible for labels to still be paying these artists when money isn't coming in from record sales.
Where is this money coming from? The only revenue streams I can think of for labels are album sales, and then the rare chance a song gets used in a movie or commercial and they profit off that.
I'm not going to pretend I know all the details,. but I believe this is money that comes from the publishing company, not the record label. There's no middle man in there.
I believe you are correct about the movies line of thinking, though--that's why What Would You Do? is so high on there. It was featured in Straight Outta Compton and apparently Entourage the Movie recently. I would imagine that is a major reason it was so high, because it's probably not a huge catalog song on its own like the Snoop and Dre material.
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^^^^ and gta
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Fuck the hatin' ass fucks on here Daz, get that ca$h!
4sho nigga!
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The numbers seems legit. The more dubious claim is the "every 90 days" part. I believe most publishing companies pay out twice a year, not every 90 days, but that could have changed over the last decades (I read about this stuff back in the 90's). The largest part of publishing income comes from radio play and this can be very substantial. If you write a classic that gets strong recurrent airplay, you can live off of it for the rest of your life. Streaming pays very little, but it is increasing.
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I'd also guess that Youtube profits are included in here. Rappers must be making a lot of money on Youtube. If your video has a commercial before it, and your video gets millions of views, you must be seeing money. So Daz is probably caking off kids in Europe watching the 2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted video over and over again.
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A lot of this is just conjecture. I mean how many of you have actually heard an artist say they are makin bread off YouTube or off of streams?
Pac's whole All Eyez On Me album, possibly the greatest album of all time, the whole thing has for the longest been available on YouTube without commercial and without interruption.
As far as streaming goes I don't have even one friend or haven't talked to any person who actually pays for that shit on a regular basis. I mean I bought Dre's Compton album, but that was kind of a rare thing. I mean it's not like you meet people talking about which songs and albums they stream (buy) from Spotify or apple or whatever.....the way we would in the 90's. In the 90's you'd come upon strangers and discuss what albums you had what they had.
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not really sure how all this works, but looking at Ambitionz Az A Ridah, for example, publishing is split 5 ways: Pac, Interscope, Warner, Suge, and Daz.
that's a lot of cake for 1/5 of the royalties for a 90 day period.
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A lot of this is just conjecture. I mean how many of you have actually heard an artist say they are makin bread off YouTube or off of streams?
Pac's whole All Eyez On Me album, possibly the greatest album of all time, the whole thing has for the longest been available on YouTube without commercial and without interruption.
As far as streaming goes I don't have even one friend or haven't talked to any person who actually pays for that shit on a regular basis. I mean I bought Dre's Compton album, but that was kind of a rare thing. I mean it's not like you meet people talking about which songs and albums they stream (buy) from Spotify or apple or whatever.....the way we would in the 90's. In the 90's you'd come upon strangers and discuss what albums you had what they had.
The money is there though. The free stuff -- whether YouTube or Spotify -- generates money from the advertisements. And when you pay for the premium stuff -- whether YouTube or Spotify -- the money is still coming in, even without the advertisements. It's not a ton of money, usually something like a certain fraction of a cent per play, but when it's free and/or streaming, if it gets played enough times, it starts making some good money, really at no investment or risk of the artist.
Just look at Psy -- Gangnam Style made him something between $5-10 million just that first year. And it's not like he's doing world tours for one song (though there are obviously videos of him doing it in concert, but usually in Korea), so a lot of it off of those insane amounts of YouTube views.
Sure, you can find a hundred different YouTube uploads of something like Ambitionz az a Ridah, but you can't claim the advertisement money off of it unless it's your content/material. So they can get money off of videos that other people uploaded, if it's theirs.
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My understanding is Youtube has software to identify if the music you upload belongs to someone else, and assigns royalties accordingly. So if I upload a Daz song under my account, the owners still get their royalties, no matter how scant they are. I'm sure stuff slips through the cracks but probably not with the big hits.
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Glad Daz posted this because this is what it's going to take to change the game. They really got yall thinking that music doesn't generate money. lol