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Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle (1993)
(http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drg900/g905/g90550gf0qv.jpg) (http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2ZJ31Q0MGSBT43MPXIGHQKXSR9)
When this CD was released in 1993, Snoop was already a household name thanks to his infamous "Deep Cover" debut and ofcourse his staring role on Dr. Dre's seminal classic The Chronic. So this "debut" isn't like a typical debut from a solo artist like Illmatic or Whut? Thee Album were we got our first real taste of what they had to offer the hip-hop world. Snoop had already done that a year earlier. Going into the album he was argurably the biggest star in hip-hop, with legions of fans anxiously awaiting new material, and they were the ones who snapped up the album, making it the first debut album to enter the Billboard charts at number one. It wasn't like they were buying an unknown quantity. They knew that the album would essentially be the de facto sequel to The Chronic, providing another round of P-Funk-inspired grooves and languid gangsta and ganja tales, just like Dre's album. A wise decision was made here by Snoop and Dre, "if it ain't broke don't fix it." The spartan liner notes say "Produced By: Dr. Dre" and that's it. Thankfully the music on this album is hard, yet smooth at times, and overall it really flows together nicely. With a censored version of this album, a radio DJ could hardly go wrong by just selecting any track at random and pressing "play". The hits are well known and still bump to this day: "Who Am I", "Gin & Juice", and "Doggy Dogg World" among them. The non-crossover tracks deserve just as much recognition though, such as the pimped out cut "Tha Shiznit" (http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0NDZ5F9DD16XS2MXLJXMUAJARZ). Built on a trademark heavy Dre bassline, this track has the mother of all flute samples. It wouldn't be near as gangsta though without the S-N-double-O-P, whose laconic flow puts you right in the mix as he talks king pimp shit:
I lay back in the cut retain myself
Think about the shit, and I'm thinkin wealth
How can I makes my grip
And how should I make that nigga straight slip
Set trip, gotta get him for his grip
as i dip around the corner, now I'm on a-nother
mission, wishin, upon a star
Snoop Doggy Dogg with the caviar
In the back of the limo no demo, this is the real
Breakin niggaz down like Evander Holyfield, chill
to the next Episode
I make money, and I really don't love hoes
Tell ya the truth, I swoop in the Coupe
I used to sell loot, I used to shoot hoops
But now I, make, hits, every single day
With, that nigga, the diggy Dr. Dre
So lay back in the cut, motherfucker 'fore you get shot
It's 1-8-7 on a motherfuckin cop
Not surprisingly, a rapper this smooth is the ideal choice to do a cover version of the MC Ricky D (Slick Rick) and Doug E. Fresh classic "La-Di-Da-Di." At the time rappers doing cover versions of hits by other MC's was very rare at the time. Whatever sensation a Slick Rick cover song made though, it was nothing compared to the firestorm over "Murder Was the Case" given the fact Snoop really was on trial for murder when a remix of the song blew up on the soundtrack of the same name. Personally I think the original version has the darker, more ominous beat that captures the mood Snoop intended for this song's lyrics perfectly. Those who know this song already know how this story turns out, but suffice it to say if you don't that Snoop learns you never win when you make deals with the devil. Perhaps that's why they chose to follow this song with the all-star Death Row song "Serial Killa" where Kurupt, Daz and RBX all rip another sick Dr. Dre beat to pieces. With so many good songs on this album it's almost hard to pick ones to talk about.
There are two keys to its success, one belonging to Dre, the other to Snoop. Dre realized that it wasn't time to push the limits of G-funk, and instead decided to deepen it musically, creating easy-rolling productions that have more layers than they appear. They're laid-back funky, continuing to resonate after many listens, but their greatest strength is that they never overshadow the laconic drawl of Snoop, who confirms that he's one of hip-hop's greatest vocal stylists with this record. If Doggystyle doesn't surprise or offer anything that wasn't already on The Chronic, it nevertheless is the best showcase for Snoop's prodigious talents, not just because he's given the room to run wild, but because he knows what to do with that freedom and Dre presents it all with imagination and a narrative thrust. If it doesn't have the shock of the new, the way that The Chronic did, so be it: Over the years, the pervasive influence of that record and its countless ripoffs has dulled its innovations, so it doesn't have the shock of the new either.
50. Dr. Dre – 2001 (1999) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=73625.0)
49. Outkast – Southernplayalisticaddicmuzik (1994) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=73777.0)
48. Jay-Z – Reasonable Doubt (1996) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=74040.0)
47. Kool G Rap & DJ Polo – Wanted: Dead Or Alive (1990) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=74218.0)
46. Redman – Whut? Thee Album (1992) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=74531.0)
45. De La Soul - De La Soul Is Dead (1991) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=74834.0)
44. Fugees – The Score (1996) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=75061.0)
43. The D.O.C. – No One Can Do It Better (1989) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=75381.0)
42. Common Sense - Resurrection (1994) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=75589.0)
41. Makaveli - The Don Kiluminati: The 7 Day Theory (1996) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=75939.0)
40. Public Enemy – Fear Of A Black Planet (1990) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=76104.0)
39. Ice Cube – Death Certificate (1992) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=76728.0)
38. Gza/Genius - Liquid Swords (1995) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=77194.0)
37. N.W.A – Efil4zaggin (1991) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=77354.0)
36. Main Source – Breaking Atoms (1991) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=77548.0)
35. Geto Boys – Grip It! On That Other Level (1989) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=78193.0)
34. Brand Nubian – One For All (1990) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=78454.0)
33. Scarface – The Diary (1994) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=78896.0)
32. Kool G Rap & DJ Polo – Road To The Riches (1989) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=78973.0)
31. Beastie Boys – Licensed To Ill (1986) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=78994.0)
30. Ultramagnetic MC's – Critical Beatdown (1988) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=79307.0)
29. LL Cool J – Radio (1985) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=79487.0)
28. 2Pac – All Eyez On Me (1996) (http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dre700/e771/e771847607k.jpg)
27. Mobb Deep – The Infamous… (1995) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=80115.0)
26. Eric B. & Rakim – Follow The Leader (1988) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=80302.0)
25. Big Daddy Kane – It’s A Big Daddy (1989) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=80735.0)
24. Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth – Mecca And The Soul Brother (1992) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=80831.0)
23. Black Moon – Enta Da Stage (1993) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=80894.0)
22. Outkast – Aquemini (1998) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=81163.0)
21. A Tribe Called Quest – People’s Instinctive Travels And The Paths Of Rhythm (1990) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=81368.0)
20. Run-D.M.C. – Run-D.M.C. (1984) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=81525.0)
19. Boogie Down Productions – By All Means Necessary (1988) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=81656.0)
18. Raekwon – Only Built 4 Cuban Linx… (1995) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=81932.0)
17. De La Soul – 3 Feet High And Rising (1989) (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=82271.0)
16. Snoop Doggy Dogg – Doggystyle (1993)
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You know people are going to bitch about this,right???lol
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great album...serious...this could be top 10..but i ain't complaining..
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Nobody shjould complain until the list is complete.
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I'm not complaining, as this list has made for a great read. However, this album is up there in my top five of all time.
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No doubt. Mine too.
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Complaining is always welcome. Reading the responses with everyone agreeing all the time would be boring.
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classic in my top 5 hopefully snoop can one day go back to this style
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great album...serious...this could be top 10..but i ain't complaining..
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great album...serious...this could be top 10..but i ain't complaining..
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15 albums better than this, no chance...... in the top 4 albums off all time in my opinion, i dont think their are harldy any albums better than this, no chance, the deleivery, lyrics, beats, joints,rhythms....naaaaaaaaa nigga, u aint fuckin with this album
peace!
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Despite the fact that this is probably my favorite album of all-time, I can understand why Knuckles would place this at 16. This list is covering damn near all the classics. Much props.
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awesome album, and for now, i think its the perfect place for it.. i dont think it should be top 10...
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lyrics
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nevertheless, it could be top 10 for me too, but still, whereas I think Chronic has to be top 10 (cause of its great influence and its plain dopeness combined), this one might as well be no. 16...it´s amazing G-Funk, but you can indeed find 15 albums that classify as ´greater´...just take EPMD, Rakim & Eric B, BDP, Nas & RUN-DMC´s most important albums and you´ve already got a good point not making it top 5. Props again, however.
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amazing album, should be nr 1 IMO, but let him finish the list
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Well, I was already expecting this around #41, remember ;)
I'll definately agree with where this is placed on the list. The album isn't more than it is. Just great music, laid back, excellent rapping by Snoop & the guests, top notch production by Dre... But yet, don't make it more than it actually was. Content wise, Snoop didn't really bring that much news to the table (apart from Murder Was The Case maybe). Then again, that's not really what to expect from him. Great album, we all know that. Just... There's more great albums out there, competing for a spot way up in this list.
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lyrics
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nevertheless, it could be top 10 for me too, but still, whereas I think Chronic has to be top 10 (cause of its great influence and its plain dopeness combined), this one might as well be no. 16...it´s amazing G-Funk, but you can indeed find 15 albums that classify as ´greater´...just take EPMD, Rakim & Eric B, BDP, Nas & RUN-DMC´s most important albums and you´ve already got a good point not making it top 5. Props again, however.
yes i said lyrics, and wut? it aint gotta be on some rakim or nas shit to be amazing lyrically, lyrics are what it is....not everyone drops lines like nas but they still amazing.......
and nah i dont see many albums better than this, and i think white ppl dont like snoop or appreciate his music as much as black ppl cuz his shits to laid out with funk and rhythm, white ppl prefer rigid shit or they consider something with alot of deep lyrics which sounds wack on a beat real dope over something sick....but thats just my opinion and it has been for time on snoop, it wont change.
never the less, this album is without a doubt top 5 album........in my opinion.......appreacite the post knuckles....just droppin my thoughts........
youo'll find much mo ppl think its atleast a top 10 album than anything less than that.......and for me personally,its one of my best 4 albums ever made....
everything about it was right, this is the reason why snoop has been runnin the coast till now still.......niggaz still live off the hope he can drop something 60% of what this is.......and it'l still be near classic atleast if its 60% as good as this
peace
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Jesus, i don't even know what album is better than Doggystyle. i know The Chronic is comin up, but in my book it's not quite as good as Doggystyle.. Doggy is probably my #1 or #2 album ever
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The Chronic album may have been more of a "Groundbreaking" release but I think overall "Doggystyle" is a better album. The more I think about it the more I really think this album should be top 5, at least in the top 10.
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I'm not complaining, as this list has made for a great read. However, this album is up there in my top five of all time.
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This is my number two album(No1 goin to Brotha Lynch "Season...").
I can wait to se the rest
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I can wait to se the rest
yup
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pity snoop didnt write all the lyrics on this masterpiece...
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Easily in my top 5 all time.....quite possibly even at the #2 spot (behind 7 Day Theory of course).
also, along with All Eyez On Me and E.1999 Eternal (another album which shoulda made the list), my most played album of all time.
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wow this should be A LOT higher
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this position is about right. although i do listen to this album a lot more than others in the top 15, i still think the top 15 are still greater hip hop albums in the general sense.
the last remaining 15 in no order. this is what i think is going to be.
1. criminal minded - bdp
2. paid in full - eric b and rakim
3. great adventures of slick rick - slick rick
4. midnight marauders -atcq
5. low end theory - atcq
6. it takes a nation of millions to hold us back - PE
7. illmatic - nas
8. amerikkkaz most wanted - ice cube
9. straight outta compton - nwa
10. the chronic - dre
11. pauls boutique - beastie boys
12. ready to die - biggie
13. wu tang clan - 36 chambers
14. gangstarr - daily operation
15. raising hell - run dmc
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^^^Those are the remaining albums?? Heh.....cant say I agree. In fact, only about 3 or 4 of them would be in my top 15, but to each his own I guess. I respect the impact those albums had but many of them are too dated for my taste.
Also, I find it blasphemous that Me Against The World didnt make the top 50 all time. Are you kidding me?? We're talking about one of the greatest works from one of the greatest (if not THE greatest) hip hop artists of all time. E.1999 Eternal shoulda been on there too.
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the only shit i dont really bump on that list is probably run dmc, the sound is definitely kind dated.. everything else i like a lot. and pauls boutique i got to be in the mood for. but its still a dope album regardless.
i dunno about bone thugs e1999 eternal.. i mean it was a good album .. but i dont thijnk it holds weight to any of the 50 albums that are going to be listed..i dont know bone thugs just isnt my taste at all for some reason.
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I'm calling Paid In Full as the number 1 album right now..
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Doesnt midnight marauders have the best intermissions or "skits" on an album?! That Tour Guide gives that album an extra push...it just feels like ur actually going on a hip hop ride. Anybody else agree?
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the only shit i dont really bump on that list is probably run dmc, the sound is definitely kind dated.. everything else i like a lot. and pauls boutique i got to be in the mood for. but its still a dope album regardless.
i dunno about bone thugs e1999 eternal.. i mean it was a good album .. but i dont thijnk it holds weight to any of the 50 albums that are going to be listed..i dont know bone thugs just isnt my taste at all for some reason.
Yea, but there is no denying the impact that album had. That was the album that basically put the midwest on the map. Long before Eminem or Nelly were household names, Bone was selling 6 million. They practically brought a whole new sound to the table with that album, and countless cats bit off it. That, and every song on there is a jewel (including one of the biggest rap hits of all time, Tha Crossroads). Should definatly be on the list. I know Bone is an acquired taste but there isnt 50 albums better than this, there just isnt.
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this position is about right. although i do listen to this album a lot more than others in the top 15, i still think the top 15 are still greater hip hop albums in the general sense.
the last remaining 15 in no order. this is what i think is going to be.
1. criminal minded - bdp
2. paid in full - eric b and rakim
3. great adventures of slick rick - slick rick
4. midnight marauders -atcq
5. low end theory - atcq
6. it takes a nation of millions to hold us back - PE
7. illmatic - nas
8. amerikkkaz most wanted - ice cube
9. straight outta compton - nwa
10. the chronic - dre
11. pauls boutique - beastie boys
12. ready to die - biggie
13. wu tang clan - 36 chambers
14. gangstarr - daily operation
15. raising hell - run dmc
7 Day Theory should be in there somewhere...
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this position is about right. although i do listen to this album a lot more than others in the top 15, i still think the top 15 are still greater hip hop albums in the general sense.
the last remaining 15 in no order. this is what i think is going to be.
1. criminal minded - bdp
2. paid in full - eric b and rakim
3. great adventures of slick rick - slick rick
4. midnight marauders -atcq
5. low end theory - atcq
6. it takes a nation of millions to hold us back - PE
7. illmatic - nas
8. amerikkkaz most wanted - ice cube
9. straight outta compton - nwa
10. the chronic - dre
11. pauls boutique - beastie boys
12. ready to die - biggie
13. wu tang clan - 36 chambers
14. gangstarr - daily operation
15. raising hell - run dmc
7 Day Theory should be in there somewhere...
co-sign
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this position is about right. although i do listen to this album a lot more than others in the top 15, i still think the top 15 are still greater hip hop albums in the general sense.
the last remaining 15 in no order. this is what i think is going to be.
1. criminal minded - bdp
2. paid in full - eric b and rakim
3. great adventures of slick rick - slick rick
4. midnight marauders -atcq
5. low end theory - atcq
6. it takes a nation of millions to hold us back - PE
7. illmatic - nas
8. amerikkkaz most wanted - ice cube
9. straight outta compton - nwa
10. the chronic - dre
11. pauls boutique - beastie boys
12. ready to die - biggie
13. wu tang clan - 36 chambers
14. gangstarr - daily operation
15. raising hell - run dmc
ill bet my life on the fact that it aint in that order, but those are the albums left.
btw, Im REALLY suprized, but i shouldnt be, to me, this album is total dopeness, but just music wise not as good as chronic, and its def not up there with it on impact wise, and its uncomparable to illmatic, i mean that by the fact that, illmatic will always be a top 3 album, i think doggystyle does not belong in the top 10. also albums like 36 chambers and ready to die, i place hgiher also, very easily.
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I can't really say why others albums are ahead of this without giving away what's ahead. When this list is over I'll put some honorable mentions and makes some responses regarding some albums in the sticky thread.
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^ your really enjoying the building of this suspence, eh?
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I have full confidence in C2K ordering the top15 a bit better than that one, Justin ;) But damn well those are all albums that really deserve to make the top 15. I just don't think Doggy Style has any business up in there, in between those albums. We'll see what C2K makes off the rest of the list.
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^ your really enjoying the building of this suspence, eh?
yes, he is
Honorably mention ATLiens, the only album I´ll be mad at you for not mentioning >:( >:( >:( >:(
peace
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I'm expecting everyone to be on the edge of thier seats, logging on every hour to see if the next one is up, losing sleep... I know the suspense is killing you all
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lol
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I'm expecting everyone to be on the edge of thier seats, logging on every hour to see if the next one is up, losing sleep... I know the suspense is killing you all
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lmao
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I have full confidence in C2K ordering the top15 a bit better than that one, Justin ;) But damn well those are all albums that really deserve to make the top 15. I just don't think Doggy Style has any business up in there, in between those albums. We'll see what C2K makes off the rest of the list.
This album is the album that made rap commercial, this is the album that made rap popular around the world and this was the first rap album that debuted at the nr 1 spot on the billboard list. So if this album hasn't made an impact on the hip hop world then I don't know an album that have
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the last remaining 15 in no order. this is what i think is going to be.
ill bet my life on the fact that it aint in that order, but those are the albums left.
I have full confidence in C2K ordering the top15 a bit better than that one, Justin ;)
i didnt list those in order. i said these are going to be the top 15, not in any order. i cant decide what order theyre going to be in, but i know those 15 cds will be in the top 15, give me one album leeway, and the rest of the 14 will for sure definitely be in there.
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This album is the album that made rap commercial, this is the album that made rap popular around the world
(http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc400/c467/c46732593pq.jpg)
^^^Three years before Doggystyle. And Doggystyle wasn't much more popular than The Chronic, that sold a huge 4 million copies compared to Snoop's 5.
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Doesnt midnight marauders have the best intermissions or "skits" on an album?! That Tour Guide gives that album an extra push...it just feels like ur actually going on a hip hop ride. Anybody else agree?
Co-sign and
^ your really enjoying the building of this suspence, eh?
yes, he is
Honorably mention ATLiens, the only album I´ll be mad at you for not mentioning >:( >:( >:( >:(
peace
Co-Sign
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this is my #1 album of all time. man I can't believe dj quik - rhythm-a-lism didn't make the list, that album is nearly flawless imo.
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this is my #1 album of all time. man I can't believe dj quik - rhythm-a-lism didn't make the list, that album is nearly flawless imo.
I'm sorry to say this, but in my opinion Rhythm-al-ism shouldn't even belong anywhere near the top 200. Just my opinion tho.
I have full confidence in C2K ordering the top15 a bit better than that one, Justin ;)
i didnt list those in order. i said these are going to be the top 15, not in any order. i cant decide what order theyre going to be in, but i know those 15 cds will be in the top 15, give me one album leeway, and the rest of the 14 will for sure definitely be in there.
Allright, well, I was already giving you that. I'll be surprised if C2K lists A Tribe Called Quest twice in the top 15 though, no matter how great those albums are. That's gonna make them look bigger than they actually were. Add up the "one album leeway" and I'll put my money on the albums you listed.
I have full confidence in C2K ordering the top15 a bit better than that one, Justin ;) But damn well those are all albums that really deserve to make the top 15. I just don't think Doggy Style has any business up in there, in between those albums. We'll see what C2K makes off the rest of the list.
This album is the album that made rap commercial, this is the album that made rap popular around the world and this was the first rap album that debuted at the nr 1 spot on the billboard list. So if this album hasn't made an impact on the hip hop world then I don't know an album that have
Well, I wasn't really denying the impact this album had... It was simply huge. Then again, I don't think rap becoming commercial was something that happened in one album - it was more of a process. You can't really give any rapper total credit for bringing rap to the pop charts. But quality wise... Doggy Style is mainly feel good music, most of the times a bit shallow. Nothing wrong with that, but content wise it can't fuck with the #15 already.
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I'm not complaining, as this list has made for a great read. However, this album is up there in my top five of all time.
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this is my #1 album of all time. man I can't believe dj quik - rhythm-a-lism didn't make the list, that album is nearly flawless imo.
it´s not just about flaws, it´s about influence, impact, importance, significance etc. too. In terms of that, there´s no way Rythm-Al-ism deserves to pop up in a hiphop top 50, and no other Quik album really does. If I made "Kill´s fav 50 hiphop albums ever", "Season Of Da Siccness" would be top 10 or at least 20. But I would never even think about thinking about including it in a list like this one if I made one
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this is my #1 album of all time. man I can't believe dj quik - rhythm-a-lism didn't make the list, that album is nearly flawless imo.
I'm sorry to say this, but in my opinion Rhythm-al-ism shouldn't even belong anywhere near the top 200. Just my opinion tho.
I have full confidence in C2K ordering the top15 a bit better than that one, Justin ;)
i didnt list those in order. i said these are going to be the top 15, not in any order. i cant decide what order theyre going to be in, but i know those 15 cds will be in the top 15, give me one album leeway, and the rest of the 14 will for sure definitely be in there.
Allright, well, I was already giving you that. I'll be surprised if C2K lists A Tribe Called Quest twice in the top 15 though, no matter how great those albums are. That's gonna make them look bigger than they actually were. Add up the "one album leeway" and I'll put my money on the albums you listed.
I have full confidence in C2K ordering the top15 a bit better than that one, Justin ;) But damn well those are all albums that really deserve to make the top 15. I just don't think Doggy Style has any business up in there, in between those albums. We'll see what C2K makes off the rest of the list.
This album is the album that made rap commercial, this is the album that made rap popular around the world and this was the first rap album that debuted at the nr 1 spot on the billboard list. So if this album hasn't made an impact on the hip hop world then I don't know an album that have
Well, I wasn't really denying the impact this album had... It was simply huge. Then again, I don't think rap becoming commercial was something that happened in one album - it was more of a process. You can't really give any rapper total credit for bringing rap to the pop charts. But quality wise... Doggy Style is mainly feel good music, most of the times a bit shallow. Nothing wrong with that, but content wise it can't fuck with the #15 already.
im wont be surpized casue it will be top 10, and deserves it