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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Black Excellence on March 28, 2013, 03:02:48 PM
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yeah man this album is slept on as far as critical acclaim fuck what you heard !!!! this is an album where i listened to it from top to bottom when it first dropped without skippin' a track even today it sounds great.
this concept album had it all from the high quality production and concept to the sharp as ginsu intricate lyricism t.i. displayed throughout the record. one thing that also stood out to me was timbaland's then protege danja's 3 outstanding concoctions: ''hurt'', ''tell 'em i said that'', and ''respect this hustle'' some of my favorite joints off the album. all the skits were on point and even the features was dope i still remember coppin' and readin' a don diva mag right after king dropped and the writer spoke on t.i.'s recording process as he just started to work on t.i. vs. tip (t.i. pacing back and forth and goin' in the booth knockin' out songs no pen or pad effortlessly). imo everthing about this album was flawless.... 8)
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For the love of God, lock this thread or move it to Tha G-Spot.
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For the love of God, lock this thread or move it to Tha G-Spot.
you don't feel lke that about tupac threads. this is my thread if you don't like it stay the fuck out !!!!!
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There's a difference though. This isn't considered a "good album" in the eyes of the majority, let alone a classic.
Deeming this a classics lowers the standards of the word "classic" to the point 90% of the albums ever released would have to be "classic".
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There's a difference though. This isn't considered a "good album" in the eyes of the majority, let alone a classic.
Deeming this a classics lowers the standards of the word "classic" to the point 90% of the albums ever released would have to be "classic".
this is a great album and a classic. i really don't care what the next cat think that's how i feel about the record you think think em's first three records shit on most post 2000 releases that's your opinion i coulda went ham on you for that i didn't so respect mine.
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it's no Illmatic
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All three of Eminems first albums are WIDELY considered as great, even classic in most circles. Find me someone who thinks those albums are "solid" and I'll find a thousand people who think this T.I. album is "solid at best".
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All three of Eminems first albums are WIDELY considered as great, even classic in most circles. Find me someone who thinks those albums are "solid" and I'll find a thousand people who think this T.I. album is "solid at best".
i don't know a lot of people who considered eminem's sslp a classic including myself. half of it was off an old ep and a couple of tracks dre & co added to the mix to give it some punch.
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All three of Eminems first albums are WIDELY considered as great, even classic in most circles. Find me someone who thinks those albums are "solid" and I'll find a thousand people who think this T.I. album is "solid at best".
i don't know a lot of people who considered eminem's sslp a classic including myself. half of it was off an old ep and a couple of tracks dre & co added to the mix to give it some punch.
actually the only songs from SSEP were Just the 2 of us, Just don't give a fuck and if i had and the first 2 got remixed
SSLP is a classic and it's even in Crooked I's top 5 albums of all time
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All three of Eminems first albums are WIDELY considered as great, even classic in most circles. Find me someone who thinks those albums are "solid" and I'll find a thousand people who think this T.I. album is "solid at best".
i don't know a lot of people who considered eminem's sslp a classic including myself. half of it was off an old ep and a couple of tracks dre & co added to the mix to give it some punch.
actually the only songs from SSEP were Just the 2 of us, Just don't give a fuck and if i had and the first 2 got remixed
SSLP is a classic and it's even in Crooked I's top 5 albums of all time
crooked has no album of his own so his opinion holds no weight and if he wasn't signed to shady i doubt he would make that statement.
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All three of Eminems first albums are WIDELY considered as great, even classic in most circles. Find me someone who thinks those albums are "solid" and I'll find a thousand people who think this T.I. album is "solid at best".
i don't know a lot of people who considered eminem's sslp a classic including myself. half of it was off an old ep and a couple of tracks dre & co added to the mix to give it some punch.
actually the only songs from SSEP were Just the 2 of us, Just don't give a fuck and if i had and the first 2 got remixed
SSLP is a classic and it's even in Crooked I's top 5 albums of all time
crooked has no album of his own so his opinion holds no weight and if he wasn't signed to shady i doubt he would make that statement.
he made it before being signed to shady actually
but that doesn't change the fact SSLP has no bad songs on it and is a lyrical masterpiece. no offense but TI just isn't that lyrical my friend. look how he got outshined by everyone on the hard white remix.
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All three of Eminems first albums are WIDELY considered as great, even classic in most circles. Find me someone who thinks those albums are "solid" and I'll find a thousand people who think this T.I. album is "solid at best".
i don't know a lot of people who considered eminem's sslp a classic including myself. half of it was off an old ep and a couple of tracks dre & co added to the mix to give it some punch.
actually the only songs from SSEP were Just the 2 of us, Just don't give a fuck and if i had and the first 2 got remixed
SSLP is a classic and it's even in Crooked I's top 5 albums of all time
All hail the almighty authority of Crooked I!
If it is in his top 5 then it must be a classic!
failias of the year
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All three of Eminems first albums are WIDELY considered as great, even classic in most circles. Find me someone who thinks those albums are "solid" and I'll find a thousand people who think this T.I. album is "solid at best".
i don't know a lot of people who considered eminem's sslp a classic including myself. half of it was off an old ep and a couple of tracks dre & co added to the mix to give it some punch.
actually the only songs from SSEP were Just the 2 of us, Just don't give a fuck and if i had and the first 2 got remixed
SSLP is a classic and it's even in Crooked I's top 5 albums of all time
crooked has no album of his own so his opinion holds no weight and if he wasn't signed to shady i doubt he would make that statement.
he made it before being signed to shady actually
but that doesn't change the fact SSLP has no bad songs on it and is a lyrical masterpiece. no offense but TI just isn't that lyrical my friend. look how he got outshined by everyone on the hard white remix.
t.i. is an incredible lyricist and he bodied that remix. if you consider sslp that it's your choice i can't knock that but t.i. got lyrics you can't tell me different.
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A lot of people consider that though. You have guys like Rakim and Redman speaking out and claiming Em's greatness. T.I. has B.o.B. showing him the utmost respect because he gave him a shot.
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All three of Eminems first albums are WIDELY considered as great, even classic in most circles. Find me someone who thinks those albums are "solid" and I'll find a thousand people who think this T.I. album is "solid at best".
i don't know a lot of people who considered eminem's sslp a classic including myself. half of it was off an old ep and a couple of tracks dre & co added to the mix to give it some punch.
actually the only songs from SSEP were Just the 2 of us, Just don't give a fuck and if i had and the first 2 got remixed
SSLP is a classic and it's even in Crooked I's top 5 albums of all time
crooked has no album of his own so his opinion holds no weight and if he wasn't signed to shady i doubt he would make that statement.
he made it before being signed to shady actually
but that doesn't change the fact SSLP has no bad songs on it and is a lyrical masterpiece. no offense but TI just isn't that lyrical my friend. look how he got outshined by everyone on the hard white remix.
t.i. is an incredible lyricist and he bodied that remix. if you consider sslp that it's your choice i can't knock that but t.i. got lyrics you can't tell me different.
everyone had a great verse on hard white remix but the ones that stood out to me the most were Crook, Buddens and Yela. and Ortiz's flow was incredible too.
such a shame that Hard White remix didn't make the album
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All three of Eminems first albums are WIDELY considered as great, even classic in most circles. Find me someone who thinks those albums are "solid" and I'll find a thousand people who think this T.I. album is "solid at best".
i don't know a lot of people who considered eminem's sslp a classic including myself. half of it was off an old ep and a couple of tracks dre & co added to the mix to give it some punch.
actually the only songs from SSEP were Just the 2 of us, Just don't give a fuck and if i had and the first 2 got remixed
SSLP is a classic and it's even in Crooked I's top 5 albums of all time
All hail the almighty authority of Crooked I!
If it is in his top 5 then it must be a classic!
failias of the year
defensive much?
very
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A lot of people consider that though. You have guys like Rakim and Redman speaking out and claiming Em's greatness. T.I. has B.o.B. showing him the utmost respect because he gave him a shot.
nah b.o.b. speakin' the real some could ask eminem how he feel about t.i. as an artist and he would say the same.
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All three of Eminems first albums are WIDELY considered as great, even classic in most circles. Find me someone who thinks those albums are "solid" and I'll find a thousand people who think this T.I. album is "solid at best".
i don't know a lot of people who considered eminem's sslp a classic including myself. half of it was off an old ep and a couple of tracks dre & co added to the mix to give it some punch.
actually the only songs from SSEP were Just the 2 of us, Just don't give a fuck and if i had and the first 2 got remixed
SSLP is a classic and it's even in Crooked I's top 5 albums of all time
crooked has no album of his own so his opinion holds no weight and if he wasn't signed to shady i doubt he would make that statement.
he made it before being signed to shady actually
but that doesn't change the fact SSLP has no bad songs on it and is a lyrical masterpiece. no offense but TI just isn't that lyrical my friend. look how he got outshined by everyone on the hard white remix.
t.i. is an incredible lyricist and he bodied that remix. if you consider sslp that it's your choice i can't knock that but t.i. got lyrics you can't tell me different.
everyone had a great verse on hard white remix but the ones that stood out to me the most were Crook, Buddens and Yela. and Ortiz's flow was incredible too.
such a shame that Hard White remix didn't make the album
royce did his thing on there too. 8)
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All three of Eminems first albums are WIDELY considered as great, even classic in most circles. Find me someone who thinks those albums are "solid" and I'll find a thousand people who think this T.I. album is "solid at best".
i don't know a lot of people who considered eminem's sslp a classic including myself. half of it was off an old ep and a couple of tracks dre & co added to the mix to give it some punch.
actually the only songs from SSEP were Just the 2 of us, Just don't give a fuck and if i had and the first 2 got remixed
SSLP is a classic and it's even in Crooked I's top 5 albums of all time
crooked has no album of his own so his opinion holds no weight and if he wasn't signed to shady i doubt he would make that statement.
Therefore your opinion holds no weight. Glad we settled this.
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All three of Eminems first albums are WIDELY considered as great, even classic in most circles. Find me someone who thinks those albums are "solid" and I'll find a thousand people who think this T.I. album is "solid at best".
i don't know a lot of people who considered eminem's sslp a classic including myself. half of it was off an old ep and a couple of tracks dre & co added to the mix to give it some punch.
actually the only songs from SSEP were Just the 2 of us, Just don't give a fuck and if i had and the first 2 got remixed
SSLP is a classic and it's even in Crooked I's top 5 albums of all time
All hail the almighty authority of Crooked I!
If it is in his top 5 then it must be a classic!
failias of the year
defensive much?
very
predictable and boring you can also add to your list of personal traits
ok
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Hard to believe its been 5 yrs since this released. Definitely underrated tho. Fuck what the majority thinks. That majority is the same dickheads who listen to Ross, Waka, Chief Keef, 2chainz & Gucci n claim Weezy as GOAT.
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A lot of people consider that though. You have guys like Rakim and Redman speaking out and claiming Em's greatness. T.I. has B.o.B. showing him the utmost respect because he gave him a shot.
nah b.o.b. speakin' the real some could ask eminem how he feel about t.i. as an artist and he would say the same.
I'll take Rakims opinion over B.o.B.'s lol.
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All three of Eminems first albums are WIDELY considered as great, even classic in most circles. Find me someone who thinks those albums are "solid" and I'll find a thousand people who think this T.I. album is "solid at best".
i don't know a lot of people who considered eminem's sslp a classic including myself. half of it was off an old ep and a couple of tracks dre & co added to the mix to give it some punch.
actually the only songs from SSEP were Just the 2 of us, Just don't give a fuck and if i had and the first 2 got remixed
SSLP is a classic and it's even in Crooked I's top 5 albums of all time
crooked has no album of his own so his opinion holds no weight and if he wasn't signed to shady i doubt he would make that statement.
Therefore your opinion holds no weight. Glad we settled this.
crooked's a rapper not me idiot. don't you got some kkk meetings to attend ?
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All three of Eminems first albums are WIDELY considered as great, even classic in most circles. Find me someone who thinks those albums are "solid" and I'll find a thousand people who think this T.I. album is "solid at best".
i don't know a lot of people who considered eminem's sslp a classic including myself. half of it was off an old ep and a couple of tracks dre & co added to the mix to give it some punch.
actually the only songs from SSEP were Just the 2 of us, Just don't give a fuck and if i had and the first 2 got remixed
SSLP is a classic and it's even in Crooked I's top 5 albums of all time
crooked has no album of his own so his opinion holds no weight and if he wasn't signed to shady i doubt he would make that statement.
Therefore your opinion holds no weight. Glad we settled this.
crooked's a rapper not me idiot. don't you got some kkk meetings to attend ?
You remind me of the dude at the end of that 50 cent song, sticking up for Jeffery all the damn time.
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All three of Eminems first albums are WIDELY considered as great, even classic in most circles. Find me someone who thinks those albums are "solid" and I'll find a thousand people who think this T.I. album is "solid at best".
i don't know a lot of people who considered eminem's sslp a classic including myself. half of it was off an old ep and a couple of tracks dre & co added to the mix to give it some punch.
actually the only songs from SSEP were Just the 2 of us, Just don't give a fuck and if i had and the first 2 got remixed
SSLP is a classic and it's even in Crooked I's top 5 albums of all time
crooked has no album of his own so his opinion holds no weight and if he wasn't signed to shady i doubt he would make that statement.
Therefore your opinion holds no weight. Glad we settled this.
crooked's a rapper not me idiot. don't you got some kkk meetings to attend ?
You remind me of the dude at the end of that 50 cent song, sticking up for Jeffery all the damn time.
you remind me of that white boy remy from higher learning.
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Hard to believe its been 5 yrs since this released. Definitely underrated tho. Fuck what the majority thinks. That majority is the same dickheads who listen to Ross, Waka, Chief Keef, 2chainz & Gucci n claim Weezy as GOAT.
8)
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Good album. Better than it was consider at the time of it's release, but far from a classic. Although I really think about 10 rap albums are classic, so I'm tougher than most I guess. Some folks use the title lightly.
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Good album. Better than it was consider at the time of it's release, but far from a classic. Although I really think about 10 rap albums are classic, so I'm tougher than most I guess. Some folks use the title lightly.
Probably true
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Good album. Better than it was consider at the time of it's release, but far from a classic. Although I really think about 10 rap albums are classic, so I'm tougher than most I guess. Some folks use the title lightly.
props. some might not consider it a classic(i do) but it is a cohesive album that can be played even today.
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Good album. Better than it was consider at the time of it's release, but far from a classic. Although I really think about 10 rap albums are classic, so I'm tougher than most I guess. Some folks use the title lightly.
props. some might not consider it a classic(i do) but it is a cohesive album that can be played even today.
Yeah I've been listening to alot of TI lately, and I have to say that the Whats up Whats haapnin is one of the 5 best diss songs because of the style he uses. He's not going hard per say like No Vaseline, but just overall making Shawty Lo look like a fool and way beneath TI. Very cool track.
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Good album. Better than it was consider at the time of it's release, but far from a classic. Although I really think about 10 rap albums are classic, so I'm tougher than most I guess. Some folks use the title lightly.
props. some might not consider it a classic(i do) but it is a cohesive album that can be played even today.
Yeah I've been listening to alot of TI lately, and I have to say that the Whats up Whats haapnin is one of the 5 best diss songs because of the style he uses. He's not going hard per say like No Vaseline, but just overall making Shawty Lo look like a fool and way beneath TI. Very cool track.
yeah he dismissed shawty lo wit that one it's one of my favorite joints as well. 8)
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yo Classic
what are TI's best lyrical songs? ima brush up on my TI
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yo Classic
what are TI's best lyrical songs? ima brush up on my TI
i'mma give you a few from some of his albums: 'doin' my job', 'respect this hustle', 'dope man', 'addresses', 'good life', 'king back', 'i'm illy', 'you ain't missin' nothin', 'no more talk', 'i can't quit', wildside just to name a few. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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yo Classic
what are TI's best lyrical songs? ima brush up on my TI
i'mma give you a few from some of his albums: 'doin' my job', 'respect this hustle', 'dope man', 'addresses', 'good life', 'king back', 'i'm illy', 'you ain't missin' nothin', 'no more talk', 'i can't quit', wildside just to name a few. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
and 'my type' 8)
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my life feat. daz. 8)
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For the love of God, lock this thread or move it to Tha G-Spot.
I Think this is okay topic.
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For the love of God, lock this thread or move it to Tha G-Spot.
I Think this is okay topic.
salute. 8)
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Disgrace to Hip Hop.
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Disgrace to Hip Hop.
LOL joe budden is a disgrace to hip hop. word to wu tang and love and hip hop.
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Disgrace to Hip Hop.
LOL joe budden is a disgrace to hip hop. word to wu tang and love and hip hop.
joe buddens is a dope lyricist
not neccesarily a dope song maker but dope lyricist
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Disgrace to Hip Hop.
LOL joe budden is a disgrace to hip hop. word to wu tang and love and hip hop.
Cham needs to stick to posting bout Justin Timberlake
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Disgrace to Hip Hop.
LOL joe budden is a disgrace to hip hop. word to wu tang and love and hip hop.
joe buddens is a dope lyricist
not neccesarily a dope song maker but dope lyricist
it's funny because awhile back cham called tip a sellout but joe dropped an album recently that was a sellout album. joe was dope 03-08 after that punch rae's boy delivered joey he hasn't been the same.
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Disgrace to Hip Hop.
LOL joe budden is a disgrace to hip hop. word to wu tang and love and hip hop.
Cham needs to stick to posting bout Justin Timberlake
LOL
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it's no Illmatic
just like 'i am' isn't 'king'.
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Disgrace to Hip Hop.
LOL joe budden is a disgrace to hip hop. word to wu tang and love and hip hop.
joe buddens is a dope lyricist
not neccesarily a dope song maker but dope lyricist
it's funny because awhile back cham called tip a sellout but joe dropped an album recently that was a sellout album. joe was dope 03-08 after that punch rae's boy delivered joey he hasn't been the same.
i actually think Joe murdered his verses on the second SH album for the most part
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Disgrace to Hip Hop.
LOL joe budden is a disgrace to hip hop. word to wu tang and love and hip hop.
joe buddens is a dope lyricist
not neccesarily a dope song maker but dope lyricist
it's funny because awhile back cham called tip a sellout but joe dropped an album recently that was a sellout album. joe was dope 03-08 after that punch rae's boy delivered joey he hasn't been the same.
And I can say overall generally disappointed with "No Love Lost". I'm not a fan boy and won't call it a classic because he's my favorite artist. In a sense, parts of the album were a sellout. I didn't mention Budden though, you did because you're catching feelings that this album is about 32,000 miles from "really great", let alone classic.
And Hack, no need to defend Budden. Son is running into his defense mechanism because he can't defend T.I. so he's changing up the subject. Obviously Budden has made some sick verses and songs since. Even career wise, Joe's top five songs are lyrically better than any arrangement of songs T.I. has ever made lol.
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Disgrace to Hip Hop.
LOL joe budden is a disgrace to hip hop. word to wu tang and love and hip hop.
joe buddens is a dope lyricist
not neccesarily a dope song maker but dope lyricist
it's funny because awhile back cham called tip a sellout but joe dropped an album recently that was a sellout album. joe was dope 03-08 after that punch rae's boy delivered joey he hasn't been the same.
And I can say overall generally disappointed with "No Love Lost". I'm not a fan boy and won't call it a classic because he's my favorite artist. In a sense, parts of the album were a sellout. I didn't mention Budden though, you did because you're catching feelings that this album is about 32,000 miles from "really great", let alone classic.
And Hack, no need to defend Budden. Son is running into his defense mechanism because he can't defend T.I. so he's changing up the subject. Obviously Budden has made some sick verses and songs since. Even career wise, Joe's top five songs are lyrically better than any arrangement of songs T.I. has ever made lol.
LOL i'm not callin' it a classic because he's my favorite artist. if an album has great lyrics, production, concepts, and is cohesive i'd say it's a classic. the album is a classic whether you like it or not there is nothin' to defend the proof is in the pudding and you cannot compare joe to a t.i. at all joe budden don't even got at least six solo albums and he's been in the game since 2001 and had to join a group to try to boost his career.
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when did buddens start rapping??
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when did buddens start rapping??
don't know but he's been in the game since 2001.
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What do studio albums mean in this case? Mood Muzik 2, 3 and 4 were produced, manufactured and sold the same as any other album. The only difference is they weren't pushed by a label. This argument is coming from the guy who said "people are brainwashed into liking artists cosigned by big names" yet uses the argument of T.I. having more albums pushed by a big name company.
And just using those three Mood Muzik's, I can put together a 15 song complication that is in another stratosphere of lyricism than any 15 T.I. songs from any album.
One minute you want to talk about skill and when the conversation gets a little too intense for a proper Clifford defense you jump to sales and popularity.
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What do studio albums mean in this case? Mood Muzik 2, 3 and 4 were produced, manufactured and sold the same as any other album. The only difference is they weren't pushed by a label. This argument is coming from the guy who said "people are brainwashed into liking artists cosigned by big names" yet uses the argument of T.I. having more albums pushed by a big name company.
And just using those three Mood Muzik's, I can put together a 15 song complication that is in another stratosphere of lyricism than any 15 T.I. songs from any album.
One minute you want to talk about skill and when the conversation gets a little too intense for a proper Clifford defense you jump to sales and popularity.
no not even sales but bodies of work. t.i. has 8 albums and been in the game 12 years joe budden been in the game 12 years and got 5 albums(if you call them that) i can put 15 unreleased t.i. songs that are light years ahead of anything you can conjure of joey's. y'all think just cause t.i. got radio joints that he don't have joints wit substance that is one of the biggest misconceptions i've ever heard and there is no joe budden album better than any t.i. album i promise. trouble man: heavy is the head shits on joe's latest album comparing joe budden to t.i. is like comparing papoose to jay z or tupac.
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and just to let you know mood muzik 2 is the best thing joey has ever put together and he hasn't topped it since and he never will.
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back to the topic at hand it's big shit poppin' and lil shit stoppin' ya dig !!!!! t.i. vs tip is the shit i'm gonna give that album a full playback tomorrow just cause. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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LOLOL. It's not even worth the argument anymore if that's how you view it. Just go listen to "All Of Me", "Stuck In The Moment" and "Better Me" and then let me know if you burn your T.I. albums for being so mislead for so long.
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LOLOL. It's not even worth the argument anymore if that's how you view it. Just go listen to "All Of Me", "Stuck In The Moment" and "Better Me" and then let me know if you burn your T.I. albums for being so mislead for so long.
nah i ain't been mislead t.i. is the truth. those joints other than all of me isn't even no where near joey's best mood muzik 2 is where the jewels are.
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The majority of Act II was pretty weak. Which seriously dents its chances of being a classic. Definitely not a classic in my eyes. Act I was pretty good. But Act III left the album with a strong ending. I'd give the album a 3/5. It's definitely not up to par with Trap Muzik or Urban Legend. Or even King for that matter. I had Urban Legend on repeat when I first got it.
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The majority of Act II was pretty weak. Which seriously dents its chances of being a classic. Definitely not a classic in my eyes. Act I was pretty good. But Act III left the album with a strong ending. I'd give the album a 3/5. It's definitely not up to par with Trap Muzik or Urban Legend. Or even King for that matter. I had Urban Legend on repeat when I first got it.
that's cool for me act II was as strong as I and III and is trap muzik and urban legend to the tenth power. a lot of you sleep on this album still but it's ok.
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i came in the game slow they act like they ain't know
that i wasn't gon' leave until i got what i came fo.
i still can't complain though as long as i aim bro
i came a long way but shawty ain't nuthin' changed though.
i still let the tool go don't get it confused bro
run up on me wrong now what you think i'mma do bro.
send you to your maker then go to jamaica - 'my swag' 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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I am so lost??? Why are people comparing Joe Budden and T.I.? This is such a weird topic.
First off, T.I. is a nice rapper, and from 2006-2009 he was easily the best southern rapper. He was the King of the South and that was his thing. Joe Budden is an eastcoast rapper with a lot of skill and has spent the last 12 years trying to come up. I mean, I don't know who's better, I own at least 3 of each of their albums, but I never once thought to compare the two.
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Joe Budden only came up because I was the one who broke the news to this guy that this album is in another galaxy to the word "classic".
First off, T.I. is a nice rapper, and from 2006-2009 he was easily the best southern rapper. He was the King of the South and that was his thing.
Not really saying much when all that time had to show was Shorty Lo, D4L, Lil Jon, Soulja Boy, Young Joc and Dem Franchize Boyz lol.
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Joe Budden only came up because I was the one who broke the news to this guy that this album is in another galaxy to the word "classic".
First off, T.I. is a nice rapper, and from 2006-2009 he was easily the best southern rapper. He was the King of the South and that was his thing.
Not really saying much when all that time had to show was Shorty Lo, D4L, Lil Jon, Soulja Boy, Young Joc and Dem Franchize Boyz lol.
True, but in reality isn't that all T.I. needed to be. All T.I. needed to happen was Outkast to break up (done), Ludacris to fall off (done), Scarface to basically retire (more or less), and Young Buck to fail (done); then T.I. would have the crown of the South all to himself. What more do you want from him? Personally, I like T.I. Never thought he was top 25 of all time, maybe top 50, and that's a maybe. But for his era and his region, he killed it. He dominated a weak south, but that's like the Heat or the Spurs winning an NBA title during a locked out shorten season. At the end of the day, you are still champion like anyone else.
And why bring up Budden? LOL? It's so random, it almost is like you are Budden himself. Dude, are you Joe Budden?
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Joe Budden only came up because I was the one who broke the news to this guy that this album is in another galaxy to the word "classic".
Not really saying much when all that time had to show was Shorty Lo, D4L, Lil Jon, Soulja Boy, Young Joc and Dem Franchize Boyz lol.
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Joe Budden only came up because I was the one who broke the news to this guy that this album is in another galaxy to the word "classic".
First off, T.I. is a nice rapper, and from 2006-2009 he was easily the best southern rapper. He was the King of the South and that was his thing.
Not really saying much when all that time had to show was Shorty Lo, D4L, Lil Jon, Soulja Boy, Young Joc and Dem Franchize Boyz lol.
True, but in reality isn't that all T.I. needed to be. All T.I. needed to happen was Outkast to break up (done), Ludacris to fall off (done), Scarface to basically retire (more or less), and Young Buck to fail (done); then T.I. would have the crown of the South all to himself. What more do you want from him? Personally, I like T.I. Never thought he was top 25 of all time, maybe top 50, and that's a maybe. But for his era and his region, he killed it. He dominated a weak south, but that's like the Heat or the Spurs winning an NBA title during a locked out shorten season. At the end of the day, you are still champion like anyone else.
And why bring up Budden? LOL? It's so random, it almost is like you are Budden himself. Dude, are you Joe Budden?
Pretty much. T.I. probably still is the best rapper in the South.
And yes, I am.
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best southern rapper is bun b
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best southern rapper is bun b
bun is dope and a legend but not the best in fact i'd put scarface over him.
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From 2006 to now, is T.I. Bun B, 'Face, they all are better I'm the all time rankings. But in today's time, it's T.I.
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in my sometimes humble yet beyond moderate opinion t.i. is definitely a top 5 emcee for me based on skill, consistency, impact, and longevity. in my next t.i. thread (if i don't reflect on the king, urban legend, or the upcomin' he who wears the crown records first) i will reveal why i hold the skills of bankhead's finest so high in regard compared to a lot of emcees. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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in my sometimes humble yet beyond moderate opinion t.i. is definitely a top 5 emcee for me based on skill, consistency, impact, and longevity. in my next t.i. thread (if i don't reflect on the king, urban legend, or the upcomin' he who wears the crown records first) i will reveal why i hold the skills of bankhead's finest so high in regard compared to a lot of emcees. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
good for you.
yeah man i'm currently debating if i wanna do the thread now or wait a couple months but either way it will be another very hot topic as usual wit my threads. 8)
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Haven't listened to this one in a while, don't remember being overly impressed by it but there were a few nice songs. I was a much bigger fan of "Paper Trail".
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Son just said T.I. is top 5 all-time.
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Son just said T.I. is top 5 all-time.
i sure did and i stand by what i said.
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I can't defend that. Top 5???
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I can't defend that. Top 5???
when i say top 5-10 i'm goin' off impact, longevity, consistency, etc. don't get me wrong i love the rakims, kool g raps, ice cubes, etc. but none of their latest projects even come close to their earlier works. i even think black thought belong in the top 5.
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But T.I. Can't compare to their early work at any point of his career. I mean best from 2006-2010, I agree. T.I. dominated the game. But all time, I can't put him top 20 right now.
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But T.I. Can't compare to their early work at any point of his career. I mean best from 2006-2010, I agree. T.I. dominated the game. But all time, I can't put him top 20 right now.
but none of their latest albums can compare to any of his albums. as far as all time, he's definitely within the top 10 and the trouble man album solidifies it imo. at 8 albums in and 12 years in the game he's on the elite level of a jay z, nas, or emimem at this point y'all boy kendrick even said it.
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But T.I. Can't compare to their early work at any point of his career. I mean best from 2006-2010, I agree. T.I. dominated the game. But all time, I can't put him top 20 right now.
check out his rendition of 'once upon in the projects' off fuck a mixtape.
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LOLOL. We're talking to a guy who thinks this clown has nothing but classics.
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LOLOL. We're talking to a guy who thinks this clown has nothing but classics.
he has some that's arguable. if he was a protege of em or dre you wouldn't feel this way but, since he built his name off his own he's a clown ? wow.
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80% of his song have the same lame content.
His best songs are his singles. Like I'll straight up rob a nigga to "What You Know", but it ain't a classic rap song.
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80% of his song have the same lame content.
His best songs are his singles. Like I'll straight up rob a nigga to "What You Know", but it ain't a classic rap song.
'what you know' is a classic hip hop song you can still throw that song on today and it will have the same impact as it did when it came out in '06. truth be told his best songs aren't his singles though they serve their purpose. you say 80% of his songs have the same content so did pac so did biggie and so many others. what i like about him the most is that he caters to his fanbase and don't alienate like say snoop dogg, he makes what his fans want to hear from him. eminem can rhyme about killin' kim a million times but t.i.'s content is lame huh ?
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another thing about t.i.'s content: if i'm gonna listen to emcees talk about that life i'd rather hear it from niggas that had first hand experience in it or that can talk about it from a narrarator's perspective. t.i. has always put his life on his records and i can appreciate that from him and any other artist that keep it 100.
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another thing about t.i.'s content: if i'm gonna listen to emcees talk about that life i'd rather hear it from niggas that had first hand experience in it or that can talk about it from a narrarator's perspective. t.i. has always put his life on his records and i can appreciate that from him and any other artist that keep it 100.
I know this might be hard for you to believe but I have never heard a T.I song in my life...
Perhaps I should...?
not hard to believe a lot of these cats probably never heard a t.i. album. if you choose to lend a ear i suggest you listen to an album instead of a single or two so you can form your own opinion though.
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another thing about t.i.'s content: if i'm gonna listen to emcees talk about that life i'd rather hear it from niggas that had first hand experience in it or that can talk about it from a narrarator's perspective. t.i. has always put his life on his records and i can appreciate that from him and any other artist that keep it 100.
I know this might be hard for you to believe but I have never heard a T.I song in my life...
Perhaps I should...?
not hard to believe a lot of these cats probably never heard a t.i. album. if you choose to lend a ear i suggest you listen to an album instead of a single or two so you can form your own opinion though.
what album would you suggest?
one with some proper substance.
the latest and greatest. trouble man: heavy is the head.
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thanks will check it out and let you know if i like it.
no doubt. 8)
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Eminem has like five songs directly about Kim. T.I. has a hundred songs about "bustin up you suckas quick".
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Eminem has like five songs directly about Kim. T.I. has a hundred songs about "bustin up you suckas quick".
LOL that's what his audience wanna hear. me myself i could enjoy a violence free album from t.i. like paper trail or no mercy but i like the gun talk and shit on his records too.