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Download (http://rapidshare.com/files/109277125/00-nas-be_a_nigger_too.mp3)
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job is not gonna like that :-\
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Damn, Nas sounds hungry! Great track, apparantley this is a street single and an official single will be out soon.
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Nas Amps Up Controversy Over Forthcoming LP With Racial-Epithet-Spewing New Track
His "flow is as tight as Tootie's braces" — that's Tootie from the old sitcom "The Facts of Life" — and he's more militant than J.J.'s little brother Michael on "Good Times." Nas has finally released material from his forthcoming album, Nigger. The song, which is as provocative as the Queens MC has promised, is called "Be A Nigger Too"; Nas mentioned the song in an interview with MTV News back in November.
The hook is borrowed from the old Dr. Pepper commercials with the lyrics "I'm a Pepper, he's a Pepper, she's a Pepper, we're a pepper/ Wouldn't you like to be a Pepper too?" — with Nas' substituting N-word for "Pepper."
Later in the song, he continues: "To all my 'kike' niggers, 'spic' niggers, 'guinea' niggers, 'chink' niggers/ That's right, y'all my niggers, too."
The song's verses are lyrically combative ("Nas is bred for the plan/ To hold a Grand Dragon's head in my hand") while still dropping references to events old and new, like the October slaying of African Reggae artist Lucky Dube.
"Not mad 'cause Eminem said 'nigger,' " Nas raps. " 'Cause he's my nigger, wigger, cracker friend/ We all black within/ We all African/ Some Africans don't like us, no way/ A killing happened in Johannesburg yesterday."
"Be A Nigger Too" — co-produced by Salaam Remi and Big Jack — is the first record to come out from the Nigger recording sessions, but it is a street leak; the official first single is expected soon. News about the album's title unleashed a flurry of controversy last fall.
At press time, the album's often-postponed release date was loosely slated for July 1.
A few days ago, Nas performed at Syracuse University in New York State, where he also unveiled some new rhymes as well, calling himself "the rap Led Zeppelin."
www.mtv.com
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job is not gonna like that :-\
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props gonna check it out soon
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Nas ripped it, but I don't feel the instrumental too much :(.
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Download (http://rapidshare.com/files/109277125/00-nas-be_a_nigger_too.mp3)
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propz
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fuckin sick 8) 8) 8)
nas ripped the shit outta this beat
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Yeah the production could be better, sounds repetitive. Nas needs to stop fucking with Salaam Remi, ever since Street Desciple all the beats he did for Nas were pretty boring.
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props!
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I'm lacking skills for the games Rapidshare likes you to play before downloading something. "Enter the code using all letters with a (http://rapidshare.com/img/cat.png). WTF? I failed twice before finally getting it right! lmao.
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eye like nas and all but this song is fucken stupid!! and also why the fuck would u guys wasted a rapidshare linke when u can just youtube that shit. how everybody going to be a nigger when they call us nigger.. shit dont make sense
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I don't know if it was intentional, but I thought the song was funny.
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can someone zshare this for me plz?
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http://www.zshare.net/audio/1090623345a3a8e5/
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http://www.zshare.net/audio/1090623345a3a8e5/
props... 8) 8) 8)
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I'm lacking skills for the games Rapidshare likes you to play before downloading something. "Enter the code using all letters with a (http://rapidshare.com/img/cat.png). WTF? I failed twice before finally getting it right! lmao.
dont feel bad, i had to do it four fucking times. smh. if they gonna have those types of things, is it so hard to just put up regular letters as the security string? fucking assholes. lol
here it is on zshare: http://www.zshare.net/audio/10907489869150e8/
i thought it was a dope track..gonna be interesting to see what radio does with it..if this is the single.
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http://www.zshare.net/audio/1090623345a3a8e5/
beat me to it lol
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props wykid and trent! LMAO fuck that rapidshare shit with the cat, what assholes..that's why i requested it in zshare in da 1st place :laugh:
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feelin this trackkk. 8)
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rapidshare problem solution: pay 4 premium account 8)
zshare is wack yo
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rapidshare problem solution: pay 4 premium account 8)
zshare is wack yo
do u work for rapidshare? how is zshare wack?
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Ahahahah he actually sampled the Dr Pepper song.
CLASSIC.
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haha that hook got me to laugh, shiiit, lmao....nas flow is on point though for real, been a minute since i heard him flow like this.......beat is a little repetitive but i like the joint, nas is too sick
pz
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This is fucking great, and I ain't even a Nas fan. This is pretty nice. I can't wait for the CD.
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hahah eye just laugh at all these responses. if this board is truly all white people (which eye dont even believe because if its all europens how come eye dont see nothing in any european languages). that Nas should be ashamed of himself. it aint like we dont got enough of ya walkin around tryin to be cool by sayin "nigga". now Nas coming out with this bullshit with weak rhymes on top of that. eye am sorry but this whole "nigger" album shit is all for the dough and publicity congratz Nas you just sold your soul to the devil to make these pale face crackers happy and give them something to laugh at us about.
fuckin bullshit
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I think this pretty good. Beat is a bit annoying. Nobody wants Salaam Remi/Nas collaborations, they want DJ Premier/Nas joints. Them two are a great combination. Nas better do a whole album produced by Primo in the future because Primo has said he would be up for it.
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I'm a nigger, he's a nigger, she's nigger, we some niggers /
wouldn't you like to be a nigger too /
They like to strangle niggers, blame a nigger, shootin' niggers, hangin' niggers /
still you wanna be a nigger too...
I find it interesting with what NaS is doing with this, when you listen to the chorus, it really isn't controversial or even a surpirsing/shocking song to listen to. We hear the word 'nigger' so much already in rap music. It ain't no thing to hear that word thrown around in a rap song, thats what NaS is demonstrating with the chorus.
NaS is trying to milk the word for all it's worth, BUT, thats nothing that rappers have not done before, the difference is NaS will do it with more intelligence and insight than your average rapper and do it with substance, his shit make you think, Lil jon's shit just makes you think 'yeah imma bust a cap in dem niggas if they tries to swerve on me and mines yall busta ass niggaz:
http://www.youtube.com/v/1kc4EwD5hoA&hl=en
Black rappers have been throwing that word around constantly like it ain't no thing, in a brotherly manner, for sure, but more often its used in an angry manner, catering to our most base emotions and feelings to sell records.....Like INSPECTAH DECK said on 'You can't Stop me now':
I'm a victim of the very song I sing
In a way NaS is actually setting rules with this word, with this word in rap music by taking it and using it up, i'm not saying there won't be anymore use of word in rap music, that naive, i don't even think it really matters if artists use the word but alot of the time in rap its just: nigga, nigga, nigga, thats all the song is about, its stupid, theres no art to it. Nas is setting the boundary with the word, kinda saying OK if you are going to use that word do it with some artistic merit and substance, do it with intelligence, don't just be a Lil Jon 'Minstrel Show' nigger.
turn the radios up
you are now allowed to listen to the radio
the real niggers are back on the radio...
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why we fight each other in public in front of these fascists they love it
I'm a nigger, he's a nigger, she's nigger, we some niggers /
wouldn't you like to be a nigger too /
They like to strangle niggers, blame a nigger, shootin' niggers, hangin' niggers /
still you wanna be a nigger too...
...you all fake bloods like movie make-up
I find it interesting with what NaS is doing with this, when you listen to the chorus, it really isn't controversial or even a surpirsing/shocking song to listen to. We hear the word 'nigger' so much already in rap music. It ain't no thing to hear that word thrown around in a rap song, thats what NaS is demonstrating with the chorus.
NaS is trying to milk the word for all it's worth, BUT, thats nothing that rappers have not done before, the difference is NaS will do it with more intelligence and insight than your average rapper and do it with substance, his shit make you think, Lil jon's shit just makes you think 'yeah imma bust a cap in dem niggas if they tries to swerve on me and mines yall nigga:
http://www.youtube.com/v/1kc4EwD5hoA&hl=en
Black rappers have been throwing that word around constantly like it ain't no thing, in a brotherly manner, for sure, but more often its used in an angry manner, catering to our most base emotions and feelings to sell records.....Like INSPECTAH DECK said on 'You can't Stop me now':
I'm a victim of the very song I sing
In a way NaS is actually setting rules with this word, with this word in rap music by taking it and using it up, i'm not saying there won't be anymore use of word in rap music, that naive, i don't even think it really matters if artists use the word but alot of the time in rap its just: nigga, nigga, nigga, thats all the song is about, its stupid, theres no art to it. Nas is setting the boundary with the word, kinda saying OK if you are going to use that word do it with some artistic merit and substance, do it with intelligence, don't just be a Lil 'Minstrel Show' Jon nigger.
turn the radios up you are now allowed to listen to the radio the real niggers are back on the radio
So you honestly believe if the rest of the album is on par with this type of song. The rest of the rappers will think and say "Gee, I'm using the word n!gga too much, I'ma tone it down".
I think every rapper has their quota of the word and nothing is gonna change their rate of using it. Nas isn't accomplishing anything here except from beating us over the head with something we already know and turning it into something way more annoying.
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In a way NaS is actually setting rules with this word, with this word in rap music by taking it and using it up, i'm not saying there won't be anymore use of word in rap music, that naive, i don't even think it really matters if artists use the word but alot of the time in rap its just: nigga, nigga, nigga, thats all the song is about, its stupid, theres no art to it. Nas is setting the boundary with the word, kinda saying OK if you are going to use that word do it with some artistic merit and substance, do it with intelligence, don't just be a Lil 'Minstrel Show' Jon nigger.
turn the radios up you are now allowed to listen to the radio the real niggers are back on the radio
So you honestly believe if the rest of the album is on par with this type of song. The rest of the rappers will think and say "Gee, I'm using the word n!gga too much, I'ma tone it down".
I think every rapper has their quota of the word and nothing is gonna change their rate of using it. Nas isn't accomplishing anything here except from beating us over the head with something we already know and turning it into something way more annoying.
Read the shit before you post deadshit.
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In a way NaS is actually setting rules with this word, with this word in rap music by taking it and using it up, i'm not saying there won't be anymore use of word in rap music, that naive, i don't even think it really matters if artists use the word but alot of the time in rap its just: nigga, nigga, nigga, thats all the song is about, its stupid, theres no art to it. Nas is setting the boundary with the word, kinda saying OK if you are going to use that word do it with some artistic merit and substance, do it with intelligence, don't just be a Lil 'Minstrel Show' Jon nigger.
turn the radios up you are now allowed to listen to the radio the real niggers are back on the radio
So you honestly believe if the rest of the album is on par with this type of song. The rest of the rappers will think and say "Gee, I'm using the word n!gga too much, I'ma tone it down".
I think every rapper has their quota of the word and nothing is gonna change their rate of using it. Nas isn't accomplishing anything here except from beating us over the head with something we already know and turning it into something way more annoying.
Read the shit before you post deadshit.
Yes, but the majority of ur post is saying otherwise..
So do you think it's gonna change or not?
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In a way NaS is actually setting rules with this word, with this word in rap music by taking it and using it up, i'm not saying there won't be anymore use of word in rap music, that naive, i don't even think it really matters if artists use the word but alot of the time in rap its just: nigga, nigga, nigga, thats all the song is about, its stupid, theres no art to it. Nas is setting the boundary with the word, kinda saying OK if you are going to use that word do it with some artistic merit and substance, do it with intelligence, don't just be a Lil 'Minstrel Show' Jon nigger.
turn the radios up you are now allowed to listen to the radio the real niggers are back on the radio
So you honestly believe if the rest of the album is on par with this type of song. The rest of the rappers will think and say "Gee, I'm using the word n!gga too much, I'ma tone it down".
I think every rapper has their quota of the word and nothing is gonna change their rate of using it. Nas isn't accomplishing anything here except from beating us over the head with something we already know and turning it into something way more annoying.
Read the shit before you post deadshit.
Yes, but the majority of ur post is saying otherwise..
So do you think it's gonna change or not?
I seriously doubt Nas is hoping for anybody to stop using the word with this song. I think damn near everybody is missing the entire point of the song.
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In a way NaS is actually setting rules with this word, with this word in rap music by taking it and using it up, i'm not saying there won't be anymore use of word in rap music, that naive, i don't even think it really matters if artists use the word but alot of the time in rap its just: nigga, nigga, nigga, thats all the song is about, its stupid, theres no art to it. Nas is setting the boundary with the word, kinda saying OK if you are going to use that word do it with some artistic merit and substance, do it with intelligence, don't just be a Lil 'Minstrel Show' Jon nigger.
turn the radios up you are now allowed to listen to the radio the real niggers are back on the radio
So you honestly believe if the rest of the album is on par with this type of song. The rest of the rappers will think and say "Gee, I'm using the word n!gga too much, I'ma tone it down".
I think every rapper has their quota of the word and nothing is gonna change their rate of using it. Nas isn't accomplishing anything here except from beating us over the head with something we already know and turning it into something way more annoying.
Read the shit before you post deadshit.
Yes, but the majority of ur post is saying otherwise..
So do you think it's gonna change or not?
I seriously doubt Nas is hoping for anybody to stop using the word with this song. I think damn near everybody is missing the entire point of the song.
What is the point of the song then?
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In a way NaS is actually setting rules with this word, with this word in rap music by taking it and using it up, i'm not saying there won't be anymore use of word in rap music, that naive, i don't even think it really matters if artists use the word but alot of the time in rap its just: nigga, nigga, nigga, thats all the song is about, its stupid, theres no art to it. Nas is setting the boundary with the word, kinda saying OK if you are going to use that word do it with some artistic merit and substance, do it with intelligence, don't just be a Lil 'Minstrel Show' Jon nigger.
turn the radios up you are now allowed to listen to the radio the real niggers are back on the radio
So you honestly believe if the rest of the album is on par with this type of song. The rest of the rappers will think and say "Gee, I'm using the word n!gga too much, I'ma tone it down".
I think every rapper has their quota of the word and nothing is gonna change their rate of using it. Nas isn't accomplishing anything here except from beating us over the head with something we already know and turning it into something way more annoying.
Read the shit before you post deadshit.
Yes, but the majority of ur post is saying otherwise..
So do you think it's gonna change or not?
I seriously doubt Nas is hoping for anybody to stop using the word with this song. I think damn near everybody is missing the entire point of the song.
What is the point of the song then?
see my post in the other thread on this topic.
edit: for you lazy fucks... http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=177952.0
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with sum much criticism over the hook, am i the only one who remembers NWA doing this same exact thing on the 'efi4lzaggin' album over 15 years ago? hardly a new concept
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with sum much criticism over the hook, am i the only one who remembers NWA doing this same exact thing on the 'efi4lzaggin' album over 15 years ago? hardly a new concept
And that was whack too, whats ur point?
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Song is ight, propz. I want "What It Is" to be his first official single, that songs sounds fuckin sick, hopefully it drops soon!!!
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So do you think it's gonna change or not?
Seriously, my posts are not that hard to follow or comprehend. You can't expect a yes or no/good or bad/black or white answer to such a complex social issue, because there isn't one.
Nas is not guaranteed to change shit. But the point is not to change shit, because you can't expect rappers or anybody to do your thinking for you. The point is to get people to start using their brains and to stimulate debate within people's own minds. Thats Hip-Hop.
As I said thats the difference I see between Nas and the horrendous writhing mass of whack rappers, whack rappers will simply make a song based off the word 'nigger', about killing niggaz or how niggaz be gettin they paper ( in conjunction with 'bling' or 'swag', etc) to appeal to the most base of human emotions and thoughts, whereas you got cats like Nas who will say 'OK. if its all about the N-word then lets do the N-word' and do something hard hitting, thought provoking with it, thats what NaS is like...(and a minority of other respectable artists, Wu-Tang, Wu-Tang, Killa Priest... ). I guess what Job is getting at is that he is probably sick of the 'N-word' being such a big thing in general, which I find understandable, even if Nas means it to be thought provoking.
before black im first human
-Wyclef Jean
PEACE.
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ayo props on that man
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hahah eye just laugh at all these responses. if this board is truly all white people (which eye dont even believe because if its all europens how come eye dont see nothing in any european languages).
Why, Job, this board's based in the UK and the average member of this board is American. The people on this board have some things in common; most importantly a background that in some way involves hip-hop, and the English language as a common denominator. There have been some threads in different languages before, but you wouldn't want people to behave that maladjusted all the time, would you? What's the point of having discussions in French on an English board? It only keeps certain others away, who otherwise might have had something to contribute to the thread.
Now back to the subject:
that Nas should be ashamed of himself. it aint like we dont got enough of ya walkin around tryin to be cool by sayin "nigga". now Nas coming out with this bullshit with weak rhymes on top of that. eye am sorry but this whole "nigger" album shit is all for the dough and publicity congratz Nas you just sold your soul to the devil to make these pale face crackers happy and give them something to laugh at us about.
fuckin bullshit
Do you honestly think this song promotes the use of the word "nigga" by whites, nevermind by anyone at all? It's obvious that Nas is doing these things mainly for publicity, especially since he doesn't ever back his statements up by building a whole album around it (with the exception of Street's Disciple, which wasn't surrounded by a controversial issue). Regardless of his puppet-like behavior, Nas does make his statements, and although everyone already knew the message, he transforms it so that it does leave an impact. Regardless of the song's musical level, I do think the cynical approach of self-mockery that Nas used here serves its purpose.
[...] We hear the word 'nigger' so much already in rap music. It ain't no thing to hear that word thrown around in a rap song, thats what NaS is demonstrating with the chorus.
NaS is trying to milk the word for all it's worth, BUT, thats nothing that rappers have not done before, the difference is NaS will do it with more intelligence and insight than your average rapper and do it with substance, his shit make you think [...]
In a way NaS is actually setting rules with this word, with this word in rap music by taking it and using it up, i'm not saying there won't be anymore use of word in rap music, that naive, i don't even think it really matters if artists use the word but alot of the time in rap its just: nigga, nigga, nigga, thats all the song is about, its stupid, theres no art to it. Nas is setting the boundary with the word, kinda saying OK if you are going to use that word do it with some artistic merit and substance, do it with intelligence, don't just be a Lil Jon 'Minstrel Show' nigger.
It has to start somewhere. You can't deny Nas is an artist with a pretty large audience, and the things he says through his interviews and, most importantly, his music do give shape to the sphere of ideas. People notice it, they pay attention to it, they consider it, and then comes the process of recycling the music through listening to it over and over again... In a way, rap music is a great tool for propagandistic purposes. One song may not seem relevant all by itself, but it can contribute greatly to what people think and how they feel about certain issues.
Besides, I think Nas is doing a good job when it comes to making people aware of what they do, how they do it and why they do it. If a black guy calls his friends niggas - why the hell would you use a racially charged word to address your friends? Regardless of whether you mean it in a positive way - it doesn't change the word. If you want to get rid of the negativity surrounding the words nigger and nigga, better not use the word at all instead of reminding people of it all the time.
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So do you think it's gonna change or not?
Seriously, my posts are not that hard to follow or comprehend. You can't expect a yes or no/good or bad/black or white answer to such a complex social issue, because there isn't one.
Nas is not guaranteed to change shit. But the point is not to change shit, because you can't expect rappers or anybody to do your thinking for you. The point is to get people to start using their brains and to stimulate debate within people's own minds. Thats Hip-Hop.
As I said thats the difference I see between Nas and the horrendous writhing mass of whack rappers, whack rappers will simply make a song based off the word 'nigger', about killing niggaz or how niggaz be gettin they paper ( in conjunction with 'bling' or 'swag', etc) to appeal to the most base of human emotions and thoughts, whereas you got cats like Nas who will say 'OK. if its all about the N-word then lets do the N-word' and do something hard hitting, thought provoking with it, thats what NaS is like...(and a minority of other respectable artists). I guess what Job is getting at is that he is probably sick of the 'N-word' being such a big thing in general, which I find understandable, even if Nas means it to be thought provoking.
before black im first human
-Wyclef Jean
PEACE.
Okay, but I'm trying to say it's not gonna provoke thoughts. I listen to this track.. Oh Nas wants to use the word n*gger as an example.. that hasnt been done? It has. Numerous rappers speak on it. I don't see why how Nas can do a whole song about it and ppl are so fuckin hyped about it?
And the bling/killing rap you talk about from whack wrappers.. Half of this song is just that. "uzi on my nightstand" "ill put u in the casket" "my clique still real QB gangstas" "faster cars than nasa" Same fuckin shit.
Maybe if you were tremendously smoked out u would stop and think about this track as something fresh. But to me it's just going overboard on a topic we are already very aware of..
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Besides, I think Nas is doing a good job when it comes to making people aware of what they do, how they do it and why they do it. If a black guy calls his friends niggas - why the hell would you use a racially charged word to address your friends? Regardless of whether you mean it in a positive way - it doesn't change the word. If you want to get rid of the negativity surrounding the words nigger and nigga, better not use the word at all instead of reminding people of it all the time.
Exactly, if Nas is doing anything here it's promoting the use of the word by dropping it so many times. Dudes already know wtf they doing when they holler that shit. You either don't think anything negative of it already, or u have a higher respect and don't use it. This song isn't gonna make anyone stop using it. It's an A/B choice u have to live with.
I see Nas' intent with this, but he totally went about it the wrong way. He should have wrote a song describing how the word is affecting people, not just beating us over the heads with it thinking we will get sick of it..
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And the bling/killing rap you talk about from whack wrappers.. Half of this song is just that. "uzi on my nightstand" "ill put u in the casket" "my clique still real QB gangstas" "faster cars than nasa" Same fuckin shit.
That's precisely my problem with the music that Nas has been putting out. He claims to make a point on one hand, yet he drifts away from his message and even tends towards the opposite direction, in the very same song. It's the reason why the album Hip-Hop Is Dead was a rather hypocrit piece of music.
Besides, I think Nas is doing a good job when it comes to making people aware of what they do, how they do it and why they do it. If a black guy calls his friends niggas - why the hell would you use a racially charged word to address your friends? Regardless of whether you mean it in a positive way - it doesn't change the word. If you want to get rid of the negativity surrounding the words nigger and nigga, better not use the word at all instead of reminding people of it all the time.
Exactly, if Nas is doing anything here it's promoting the use of the word by dropping it so many times. Dudes already know wtf they doing when they holler that shit. You either don't think anything negative of it already, or u have a higher respect and don't use it. This song isn't gonna make anyone stop using it. It's an A/B choice u have to live with.
I see Nas' intent with this, but he totally went about it the wrong way. He should have wrote a song describing how the word is affecting people, not just beating us over the heads with it thinking we will get sick of it..
That's not what I meant. :D I actually think the approach Nas takes makes people more aware of why and how they do these things. Like Overfiend said, Nas doesn't just throw the word nigga around; he's giving some meaning to it and actually saying something through using the word. It should contribute to peoples awareness, even if that contribution is only limited in size.
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So do you think it's gonna change or not?
Seriously, my posts are not that hard to follow or comprehend. You can't expect a yes or no/good or bad/black or white answer to such a complex social issue, because there isn't one.
Nas is not guaranteed to change shit. But the point is not to change shit, because you can't expect rappers or anybody to do your thinking for you. The point is to get people to start using their brains and to stimulate debate within people's own minds. Thats Hip-Hop.
As I said thats the difference I see between Nas and the horrendous writhing mass of whack rappers, whack rappers will simply make a song based off the word 'nigger', about killing niggaz or how niggaz be gettin they paper ( in conjunction with 'bling' or 'swag', etc) to appeal to the most base of human emotions and thoughts, whereas you got cats like Nas who will say 'OK. if its all about the N-word then lets do the N-word' and do something hard hitting, thought provoking with it, thats what NaS is like...(and a minority of other respectable artists). I guess what Job is getting at is that he is probably sick of the 'N-word' being such a big thing in general, which I find understandable, even if Nas means it to be thought provoking.
before black im first human
-Wyclef Jean
PEACE.
Okay, but I'm trying to say it's not gonna provoke thoughts. I listen to this track.. Oh Nas wants to use the word n*gger as an example.. that hasnt been done? It has. Numerous rappers speak on it. I don't see why how Nas can do a whole song about it and ppl are so fuckin hyped about it?
And the bling/killing rap you talk about from whack wrappers.. Half of this song is just that. "uzi on my nightstand" "ill put u in the casket" "my clique still real QB gangstas" "faster cars than nasa" Same fuckin shit.
Maybe if you were tremendously smoked out u would stop and think about this track as something fresh. But to me it's just going overboard on a topic we are already very aware of..
A) If the track dosn't provoke thoughts or thinking then that is your own problem, not anybody elses. I for one find the track more interesting and thought provoking than alot of the tripe I stumble across on the radio or tv. Thats how i like my music, whether there are lyrics or not. The subject matter is actually nothing unique, its nothing alot of underground rappers have not touched on before, however NaS is high profile so he gets more attention.
B) Thats NaS, he is not a sterotypical character by comparison and why should he be, would you like hip-hop to be compartmentalized into the conscious rappers on one side and the thug rappers on the other, life and human beings are not that simple so why should, hip-hop, an artform also be?
C) Again, thats just your personal opion whether the song is to be deemed fresh is subjective. Instrumentally, I'm not blown away by it, its good to hear Nas spit and I like how the song has substance. You probably are sick of having the 'N-word' used so much, yeah its a concept thats been played the fuck out, but still, im looking forward to see whether the album is going to be good and i think it will have to be, intellectually and musically, to warrant soo much attention whoring by NaS.
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[...] We hear the word 'nigger' so much already in rap music. It ain't no thing to hear that word thrown around in a rap song, thats what NaS is demonstrating with the chorus.
NaS is trying to milk the word for all it's worth, BUT, thats nothing that rappers have not done before, the difference is NaS will do it with more intelligence and insight than your average rapper and do it with substance, his shit make you think [...]
In a way NaS is actually setting rules with this word, with this word in rap music by taking it and using it up, i'm not saying there won't be anymore use of word in rap music, that naive, i don't even think it really matters if artists use the word but alot of the time in rap its just: nigga, nigga, nigga, thats all the song is about, its stupid, theres no art to it. Nas is setting the boundary with the word, kinda saying OK if you are going to use that word do it with some artistic merit and substance, do it with intelligence, don't just be a Lil Jon 'Minstrel Show' nigger.
It has to start somewhere. You can't deny Nas is an artist with a pretty large audience, and the things he says through his interviews and, most importantly, his music do give shape to the sphere of ideas. People notice it, they pay attention to it, they consider it, and then comes the process of recycling the music through listening to it over and over again... In a way, rap music is a great tool for propagandistic purposes. One song may not seem relevant all by itself, but it can contribute greatly to what people think and how they feel about certain issues.
Besides, I think Nas is doing a good job when it comes to making people aware of what they do, how they do it and why they do it. If a black guy calls his friends niggas - why the hell would you use a racially charged word to address your friends? Regardless of whether you mean it in a positive way - it doesn't change the word. If you want to get rid of the negativity surrounding the words nigger and nigga, better not use the word at all instead of reminding people of it all the time.
Rap music/pop music IS a great subliminal brainwashing tool. Psychologists have found (peep the BBC documentary How Art Made The World) that when people are made to think about death it produces a response where they will allign and protect themselves. They are ancient tools of manipulation and control, it ain't no mystery to archaeologists and historians. The concept of HELL, salvation and Christ nailed to a cross evolved out of this (peep pre-Roman Etruscian art). The Aztecs controlled and maintained an empire based on this. Cloverfield and I Am Legend were fucking brainwashing operations, for two hours people sitting in a dark room infront of a massive screen being shown images of death.
So, word hip-hop and pop is a tool and performers sell a lifestyle and a frame of mind.
There is that side of culture and hip-hop.
Then there is another side in which I consider alot of hip-hop artists , in that, although they touch on the base things like debauchery, death and material wealth, but they do not confine themselves to that. Thats the difference between art and an advertisment commercial.
"I showed you tales of shootouts...and the cosmos"
-Killah Priest, 'Uprising', The Offering.
PEACE.
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Damn Nas ripped this shit...
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Right right. Respect. Props to everyone who took part in that conversation with me. I guess the song did it's job cuz it got us talking....