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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: OG Jaydc on November 09, 2011, 11:00:34 PM
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WTF? I didn't even think dude had a buzz like that
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It's becuz he's white. Stop acting so surprised a suburban white boy sold some records. Talk about something relevant. In real life you're not stating something that wasn't already bound to happen. U know how white people and gimmicks are Jay. U kno like everybody else knows that dude doesn't actually have any real credibility,he's a talentless corporate pawn. He's cut from tha same cloth as Asher Roth, bubba sparxxx, riff raff, fire cracker, and Bizarre
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I knew his buzz was real. Honestly though, I thought he'd do even more. 175K is solid though.
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WTF? I didn't even think dude had a buzz like that
That makes you a dumb ass bitch.
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I knew his buzz was real. Honestly though, I thought he'd do even more. 175K is solid though.
he's independent tho, what did u expect? those numbers r fuckin' huge for bein indie...
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I knew his buzz was real. Honestly though, I thought he'd do even more. 175K is solid though.
he's independent tho, what did u expect? those numbers r fuckin' huge for bein indie...
yea, massive indie numbers..
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He didn't have a single on the radio. That's fucking impressive.
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He didn't have a single on the radio. That's fucking impressive.
that's not "fuckin" impressive. he didn't have to buy out radio, why do that when you can buy out the internet and reach more people in more ways than u want to.
it's just like i thought, he was tellin it on SuckaFree. he's a gimmick that happens to know how to stay on beat and can tell the letters in chords.
he brought his way into tha game. who's he battlin'? who's head he smack? I'm not sayin he gotta be violent but his heart pumps kool-aid. there's still snot hangin' outta his nose. what does Mac Miller contribute to Hip Hop that already isn't here besides him being a great potential cash cow. dude can't buy greatness tho even if Complex got it fucked up on who's King.
http://www.youtube.com//v/iCtXKcb4Q2M
i'm stereotypin with tha Pac and that's what it is (-_-)
i woulda understood if it was a collective gathering from the elite and the streets and they woulda said Diddy or Jay or Snoop but Eminem tho... ::) his first three albums are about a punk coke head doing crazy shit and speaking like he's high. i'm not saying Em doesn't deserve his own award in Hip Hop but "King", not buyin it. And now they got this Snack Miller guy, only time will tell how they dickride this chump
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He didn't have a single on the radio. That's fucking impressive.
that's not "fuckin" impressive. he didn't have to buy out radio, why do that when you can buy out the internet and reach more people in more ways than u want to.
it's just like i thought, he was tellin it on SuckaFree. he's a gimmick that happens to know how to stay on beat and can tell the letters in chords.
he brought his way into tha game. who's he battlin'? who's head he smack? I'm not sayin he gotta be violent but his heart pumps kool-aid. there's still snot hangin' outta his nose. what does Mac Miller contribute to Hip Hop that already isn't here besides him being a great potential cash cow. dude can't buy greatness tho even if Complex got it fucked up on who's King.
http://www.youtube.com//v/iCtXKcb4Q2M
i'm stereotypin with tha Pac and that's what it is (-_-)
i woulda understood if it was a collective gathering from the elite and the streets and they woulda said Diddy or Jay or Snoop but Eminem tho... ::) his first three albums are about a punk coke head doing crazy shit and speaking like he's high. i'm not saying Em doesn't deserve his own award in Hip Hop but "King", not buyin it. And now they got this Snack Miller guy, only time will tell how they dickride this chump
what is your beef with white people in the rap game?
yes most of them suck and are corny as fuck, but can you at least applaud the ones that don't try to act black?
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Radiotube is a moron. Sam Adams isn't a big name. I honestly can't even name you other White rappers outside of that. To play the race card is just pure bitterness.
But LMFAO @ him saying "what does he bring to the rap game"? Nigga, what do any of your favorite artists bring to music, let alone the genre? Asshurt, nigga.
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Cham crying all over my big black dick becuz i'm talking about his heroes. Still sippin on a hot pissy dick huh. If I could piss in your face I'd hold your chin and make u count how many circles in my stream I can make and then have u suck all tha rest out. Imagine how good that piss is gonna taste when you're burping it up and u take that 1st big swallow of piss marinated spit in your mouth. You're gonna love it
i guess nobody remembers the threads i made last year about white rappers and how they should evolve but i guess short term memory is common amung potheads, coke fiends, pill poppers, and needle nosers. Snap Wigger isn't crackin just like Cham (or whoever that is)'s sex life.
imagine how fat this fuck must be sittin at a computer all day tha way he do. i wouldn't doubt if there's a poster of Joe Budden on his wall with a 12 Inch Light Brown Cock sticking outta his zipper.
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Lol @ Arthur being upset because Mac miller outsells gucci and waka.
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I knew his buzz was real. Honestly though, I thought he'd do even more. 175K is solid though.
SOLID?? dude is 100% INDEPENDENT! This is revolutionary. Not a fan of his music but congratulations to Mac Miller for being the first artist to have the balls NOT to sign, remain independent and WIN!!
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People on this forum are way too concerned with record sale numbers. Just listen to the music.
Or in mac Miller's case, don't...
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People on this forum are way too concerned with record sale numbers. Just listen to the music.
Or in mac Miller's case, don't...
hahahah class
i dunno why the fuck people are saying well done, wack artists from all genres sell records
WELL DONE BRITNEY ON YOUR NEW ALBUMS RECORD SALES!!! and dont say its cool cause hes independent. pit bull and lil jon went PLAT on an independent
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People on this forum are way too concerned with record sale numbers. Just listen to the music.
Or in mac Miller's case, don't...
hahahah class
i dunno why the fuck people are saying well done, wack artists from all genres sell records
WELL DONE BRITNEY ON YOUR NEW ALBUMS RECORD SALES!!! and dont say its cool cause hes independent. pit bull and lil jon went PLAT on an independent
No no, i'm saying well done because he beat the system, he did not sign!
he did what drake and wiz khalifa didn't have the balls to do.
i very much respect him for that.
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People on this forum are way too concerned with record sale numbers. Just listen to the music.
Or in mac Miller's case, don't...
hahahah class
i dunno why the fuck people are saying well done, wack artists from all genres sell records
WELL DONE BRITNEY ON YOUR NEW ALBUMS RECORD SALES!!! and dont say its cool cause hes independent. pit bull and lil jon went PLAT on an independent
No no, i'm saying well done because he beat the system, he did not sign!
he did what drake and wiz khalifa didn't have the balls to do.
i very much respect him for that.
wiz khalifa is signed to the same label as mac miller! lol
they just did a joint deal with atlantic for the album AFTER he built his mixtape buzz
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And you think it was that label or Atlantic that got wiz all over the radio? Don't look stupid getting caught up in hating
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As far as lil Jon and pitbull are concerned, Tvt wasn't some small independent label. They were the largest independent label in the world, they might as well have been a major with the kind of pull they had. They released multi platinum albums. They could push any artist they wanted into the mainstream, the comparison isn't the same.
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People on this forum are way too concerned with record sale numbers. Just listen to the music.
Or in mac Miller's case, don't...
hahahah class
i dunno why the fuck people are saying well done, wack artists from all genres sell records
WELL DONE BRITNEY ON YOUR NEW ALBUMS RECORD SALES!!! and dont say its cool cause hes independent. pit bull and lil jon went PLAT on an independent
No no, i'm saying well done because he beat the system, he did not sign!
he did what drake and wiz khalifa didn't have the balls to do.
i very much respect him for that.
wiz khalifa is signed to the same label as mac miller! lol
they just did a joint deal with atlantic for the album AFTER he built his mixtape buzz
Wiz released Rolling Papers with Rostrum/Atlantic.
That's the major label right there.
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People on this forum are way too concerned with record sale numbers. Just listen to the music.
Or in mac Miller's case, don't...
People that pretend record sales don't matter are the same ones that never buy music.
Sales matter and they matter to fans. If an artist they love flops on a major their likely to get shelved and that fan won't ever get to hear a new album. If an artist releases an album independently and it flops badly they won't be able to afford to continue their career.
Sometimes mediocre sales help an artist music wise. That first major album gucci album was loaded with major label forced collabos like usher and keyshia Cole. You think gucci fans wanted to hear that? Lol. His album didn't sell well so his next album none of those type of features were there.
Joe budden is the artist I love today because his major album didn't go platinum.
Quality music is great but if the sales suck it won't matter.
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I'm callin it now, J is his groupie. how many excuses are u gonna pull outta your ass this month in this thread tryna get people to like u again
He admitted he was a gimmick on cable tv just this past Sunday, let's not start puttin all rappers under the same umbrella. i gotta keep it 1000, his whiteness got me fucked up. There's whites with some skills but not Mac Miller.
I wanna see waitin' on 1 of u crazy azz whiteboyz 2 shed blood. I can't be havin Yelawolf crackin niggaz over the heads with bottles on tha close up in HD singin' black man tunes... He gonna have to stitch 1 of them other honkeyz up 1st before dude get all comfortable like that.
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Lol, I don't even like Mac miller.
It's just obvious your salty as fuck about this and getting really emotional. You mad?
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next time u fuck with me i'ma send u a picture of my dick with a yellow "RadioTube!" post-it on it.
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Radiotube is such a bitter, nigga.
lmao @ "hero". I said in his album's thread he has the same sound on every song & I wasn't even really messin' with the album & CERTAINLY didn't buy it.
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Cham crying all over my big black dick becuz i'm talking about his heroes. Still sippin on a hot pissy dick huh. If I could piss in your face I'd hold your chin and make u count how many circles in my stream I can make and then have u suck all tha rest out. Imagine how good that piss is gonna taste when you're burping it up and u take that 1st big swallow of piss marinated spit in your mouth. You're gonna love it
i guess nobody remembers the threads i made last year about white rappers and how they should evolve but i guess short term memory is common amung potheads, coke fiends, pill poppers, and needle nosers. Snap Wigger isn't crackin just like Cham (or whoever that is)'s sex life.
imagine how fat this fuck must be sittin at a computer all day tha way he do. i wouldn't doubt if there's a poster of Joe Budden on his wall with a 12 Inch Light Brown Cock sticking outta his zipper.
:laugh:
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People on this forum are way too concerned with record sale numbers. Just listen to the music.
Or in mac Miller's case, don't...
People that pretend record sales don't matter are the same ones that never buy music.
Sales matter and they matter to fans. If an artist they love flops on a major their likely to get shelved and that fan won't ever get to hear a new album. If an artist releases an album independently and it flops badly they won't be able to afford to continue their career.
Sometimes mediocre sales help an artist music wise. That first major album gucci album was loaded with major label forced collabos like usher and keyshia Cole. You think gucci fans wanted to hear that? Lol. His album didn't sell well so his next album none of those type of features were there.
Joe budden is the artist I love today because his major album didn't go platinum.
Quality music is great but if the sales suck it won't matter.
If that's the case how does Daz keep making albums?
Joe Budden may not have gone platinum on a major, but its his best-selling album. I doubt he switched direction and dropped all those mixtapes because he thought it would sell more. If anything he was saying fuck the industry, I'm gonna stop trying to go platinum.
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Daz has been part of several multi platinum albums and has an established fan base. So I'm not sure what your point was with Daz.
If budden had gone platinum he wouldn't be the artist he is. He'd still be churning out formulaic club songs( even though he still made the future and touch n go lol) and forced into collabos, like most other major label rappers.His music became much better when he got dropped.
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Daz has been part of several multi platinum albums and has an established fan base. So I'm not sure what your point was with Daz.
You said rappers who flop stop making records. Daz hasn't sold for years but keeps churning out albums.
If budden had gone platinum he wouldn't be the artist he is. He'd still be churning out formulaic club songs( even though he still made the future and touch n go lol) and forced into collabos, like most other major label rappers.His music became much better when he got dropped.
So in other word, sales don't matter.
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lol @ daz becoming the focal point of a wack miller thread.
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Daz doesn't flop. He makes all his own beats and has very little costs. He puts out albums because he makes money. But if someone on a major label does his numbers that's a flop and their going to be in debt and never heard from again.
You obviously missed the point. If budden had sold he would be a different artist. Therefore the sales or lack there of mattered. How's that go over your head?I was merely giving an example of where someone not selling had a positive impact on them.But that's extremely rare.
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hm and asher roth should start a group together.
WWA
wiggers with aspirations
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Daz doesn't flop. He makes all his own beats and has very little costs. He puts out albums because he makes money. But if someone on a major label does his numbers that's a flop and their going to be in debt and never heard from again.
You obviously missed the point. If budden had sold he would be a different artist. Therefore the sales or lack there of mattered. How's that go over your head?I was merely giving an example of where someone not selling had a positive impact on them.But that's extremely rare.
Daz had one successful album as part of a group. The rest of his releases haven't sold shit. His solo on Death Row was a failure. His independent albums haven't sold shit. Where is this money he is making coming from? You're right in that his albums have very little costs. And the point is that if Daz can put albums out, so can every other indie artist. I'm pretty sure most of these indie rappers have 9-5s like the rest of us. But yet they still put out music.
Fact: most of the music coming out doesn't sell. Compare the number of albums that are dropped to the number of albums that show up on the billboard. That pretty much kills your whole theory.
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Daz had tha doggpound album, was part of many other successful deathrow albums. Future doggpound albums like Dillinger and gotti sold well. His death row album went gold. Not to mention all his production credits. You can try to limit daz's success all you like but he was huge in his day.He still sells off his name alone. Other indie artist don't have a name recognition like Daz does.
Again I think your so caught up in trying to make a point against me your throwing out half baked thoughts. Who cares how many albums cone out? How many of them have more then one album? That's my point.Once that album does nothing they can't afford to keep going.
I really can't believe someone is trying to claim sales don't matter. It's called the music business for a reason.
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People on this forum are way too concerned with record sale numbers. Just listen to the music.
Or in mac Miller's case, don't...
hahahah class
i dunno why the fuck people are saying well done, wack artists from all genres sell records
WELL DONE BRITNEY ON YOUR NEW ALBUMS RECORD SALES!!! and dont say its cool cause hes independent. pit bull and lil jon went PLAT on an independent
No no, i'm saying well done because he beat the system, he did not sign!
he did what drake and wiz khalifa didn't have the balls to do.
i very much respect him for that.
wiz khalifa is signed to the same label as mac miller! lol
they just did a joint deal with atlantic for the album AFTER he built his mixtape buzz
Wiz released Rolling Papers with Rostrum/Atlantic.
That's the major label right there.
yeah exactly what i said, i DO know atlantic is a major lol. jeez people will say anything to fit their argument, you are just repeating what i said.
wiz built his own buzz, atlantic took over and helped rostrum distribute the album. you cant deny that, sure it may have helped sales but youre undermining what he did. i dont even LIKE wiz at all, but lets not pretend it was all due to being on a major. kush and og was HUGE, even tho i dont like it, it was hard to ignore and this was BEFORE atlantic.
so lets not pretend corny ass mac miller is somehow amazing just because atlantic didnt do a deal with him. all it means is white people (mostly college kids) like lame and corny rap and will pay money for it regardless of the label. it doesnt cost a lot of money to market an artist over the internet anymore, and young people barely listen to radio compared to what they used to so being on major doesnt mean what it used to. the few people here who actually understand how the industry works will agree with this
you see southern rappers taking over the mixtape game and getting that show money with NO label. i dont see folks being impressed with that. white kids under the age of 18 are the largest demographic of record buyers, what is so impressive about capturing the suburban teen market? cause you KNOW all the other folks that bought it are just college kids too
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thanks Face, u basically just said what i said and wat everybody already knows (u hit it on tha nail too).
but this is a JayDC thread, it's a buncha wigger-shit-fuckery. never expect to learn anything or have a normal conversation with this pussy
watch them start praising Snack Booger now that he's sold a couple records. i don't wanna be an Ass but it's like if you're white how do u not sell records; independent or major. i hope they don't start tryna put whiteboys in the hood tho or start takin credit for shit they didn't do. But that's not gonna happen. Alchemist, Drake, and Eminem and a few others are exceptions. They put out undeniable music and they take the 'race' factor out of Hip Hop becuz it's good music. Gimmicks like this guy are just cash cows (seafood in this case).
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I don't think you guys understand how ignorant you both sound. You niggas don't even know who bought the album. Until you show me album demographics, you really can't be acting like you're spitting facts. Although, you're both the same bitter nigga who is mad because you listen to awful Hip Hop that sells worse. :laugh:
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Daz had tha doggpound album, was part of many other successful deathrow albums. Future doggpound albums like Dillinger and gotti sold well. His death row album went gold. Not to mention all his production credits. You can try to limit daz's success all you like but he was huge in his day.He still sells off his name alone. Other indie artist don't have a name recognition like Daz does.
Again I think your so caught up in trying to make a point against me your throwing out half baked thoughts. Who cares how many albums cone out? How many of them have more then one album? That's my point.Once that album does nothing they can't afford to keep going.
I really can't believe someone is trying to claim sales don't matter. It's called the music business for a reason.
What did Dillinger and Gotti sell? How do you know his solo went gold? It doesn't show up in the riaa database and from what I read it sold 80k first week. That's a flop and probably why it was his last major release.
I'll say again. "Most of the music coming out doesn't sell. Compare the number of albums that are dropped to the number of albums that show up on the billboard. That pretty much kills your whole theory." And that's not new rappers putting out one album and quitting the game after failure. These are established indie rappers who have never sold shit, but keep putting out music. Mika 9 just dropped an album. J-Live just dropped an album. Roc Marciano dropped his debut last year that people loved, but I'm sure it sold nothing. But here he is this year still putting out music. Blu? Dude has dropped like 3 projects this year. I could keep naming names but what's the point? There's a thousand artists out there still putting out music that have never had sales.
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dont daz own like a plant where cs can be mass pressed and and cased up and shit?
i read this in xxl many years ago...daz be saying all kinds of dumb shit but daz is masking cash...hes independant and does everything in house if he sells 20000 albums and gets back 4 dollars at least on each hes doing allright considering he does this a couple times a year.
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I don't think you guys understand how ignorant you both sound. You niggas don't even know who bought the album. Until you show me album demographics, you really can't be acting like you're spitting facts. Although, you're both the same bitter nigga who is mad because you listen to awful Hip Hop that sells worse. :laugh:
ok chammy you tell me who buys records. its well documented its mostly white teens that buy records. mac miller also captured the college kid market.
you really think anyone over the age of 25 is fucking with this music???
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dont daz own like a plant where cs can be mass pressed and and cased up and shit?
i read this in xxl many years ago...daz be saying all kinds of dumb shit but daz is masking cash...hes independant and does everything in house if he sells 20000 albums and gets back 4 dollars at least on each hes doing allright considering he does this a couple times a year.
There's no way he's selling 20,000 copies. He can't even get that many youtube views for his songs.
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I'm giving you clear concise examples of sales nattering and so far you've said nothing to kill the " theory". And it's not a theory it's a fact.
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Waka flocka and gucci are gimmicks. Rick Ross is a gimmick. I don't see you having problems with them. So why you mad? Just because their white? Your just a sheltered racist blogging from your mommas house Arthur.
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No major features mostly indy majority produced by one producer man I respect this craccer for that, Drake should have done this.
Now about the album, the shit is craccer'd out and wacc. Mac ain't bad flow wise but his overall material is trash on this album. His sales is from mostly lames and devils,but if he happy with the album mo power to em, but this flow shit is a got damn gimmicc now. Twista is turning over in his grave and he's yet to be deceased. Yell
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I'm giving you clear concise examples of sales nattering and so far you've said nothing to kill the " theory". And it's not a theory it's a fact.
I didn't see any examples....but I gave you like 5 rappers who don't sell but still have careers putting out music. That's 5 examples of rappers who haven't been affected by lack of album sales. There's hundreds more. What more do you want? Real life examples are the best proof there is.
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Joe budden didn't sell he was dropped. Young dro didn't sell he hasn't released an album since. Obie trices second album didnt sell he was dropped and hasn't released new music since. G units sales fell and 50 lost his label deal. Jim jones major label album flopped, he was dropped. Wales first album flopped he was dropped. Lil Wayne exploded in sales and now he brought drake and minaj into the game. Drake sells so he brings the weeknd into the game. If drake flopped he would have been dropped and you'd never hear from the weeknd. Chamillionaires second album flopped he hasn't done shit since.
How many more examples do you want?
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Lol, I don't know how I missed it but you just said in your own words "That's a flop and probably why it was his last major major release" pertaining to Daz.
So in your words you just admitted sales matter by saying Daz didn't get another major album because it flopped. If sales don't matter like you claim then why would he be dropped if he flopped
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P.s. Daz released another major album on so so def.
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Box, Do Right And Kill Everything's album is practically produced by 1 Producer. A white producer with MS at that (Blind Fury's brother).
40>>>Boi1da
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I don't think you guys understand how ignorant you both sound. You niggas don't even know who bought the album. Until you show me album demographics, you really can't be acting like you're spitting facts. Although, you're both the same bitter nigga who is mad because you listen to awful Hip Hop that sells worse. :laugh:
ok chammy you tell me who buys records. its well documented its mostly white teens that buy records. mac miller also captured the college kid market.
you really think anyone over the age of 25 is fucking with this music???
I'm not going to say who buys records because I'm not going to talk out of my ass. To say Black people don't buy Hip Hop albums is just a slap in the face to the genre. The people who made it don't buy it. & what does age matter? you weren't talking age. Are you implying every single person under the age of 25 is a White college student?
Look, you're an old bitter nigga from the South, you know nothing about the current generation. As someone who is living in this generation, Mac Miller has a more White fan base, that's a given, but plenty of Black people fuck with him. Just like plenty of Black people fuck with Eminem. Hopsin is a huge Eminem fan & you hear it through his music. For you & your friend or alias or whatever Radiotube is to you, to say that Black people don't buy music made by White rappers is insane.
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black people buying mac miller records lmao
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thats whiter than carlton banks
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Box, Do Right And Kill Everything's album is practically produced by 1 Producer. A white producer with MS at that (Blind Fury's brother).
40>>>Boi1da
Again, I respect jew softy for that, his album has a great mood, but like mac I ain't braille the material, who is Drake gonna get killed without them snitching on him without fear of getbacc?
My reason for speaking on Drake tho is because he took that uni/cmb deal when he could have stayed indy and caked. Instead Mac has done it and his album success is gonna change how some do business. I prop him for that yell
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People on this forum are way too concerned with record sale numbers. Just listen to the music.
Or in mac Miller's case, don't...
People that pretend record sales don't matter are the same ones that never buy music.
Sales matter and they matter to fans. If an artist they love flops on a major their likely to get shelved and that fan won't ever get to hear a new album. If an artist releases an album independently and it flops badly they won't be able to afford to continue their career.
Sometimes mediocre sales help an artist music wise. That first major album gucci album was loaded with major label forced collabos like usher and keyshia Cole. You think gucci fans wanted to hear that? Lol. His album didn't sell well so his next album none of those type of features were there.
Joe budden is the artist I love today because his major album didn't go platinum.
Quality music is great but if the sales suck it won't matter.
I've read a lot of bullshit and nonsense on this forum, but this comment you've just made is some of the worst. Not to mention how grossly incorrect and uninformed it is.
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Then enlighten me oh wise one
I'm very curious as to what I said is grossly misinformed or incorrect.
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i wouldnt say selling poorly is a good thing for any rapper but sometimes leaks can spur album sales if the reviews is good.
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I'm very curious as to what I said is grossly misinformed or incorrect.
That's probably the most absurd thing on this forum. When people say you're not right, but don't explain why.
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Then enlighten me oh wise one
I'm very curious as to what I said is grossly misinformed or incorrect.
People that pretend record sales don't matter are the same ones that never buy music.
>>Rubbish. Record sales mean fuck all to me and I buy records, cds and vinyl almost on a weekly basis.
Sales matter and they matter to fans. If an artist they love flops on a major their likely to get shelved and that fan won't ever get to hear a new album. If an artist releases an album independently and it flops badly they won't be able to afford to continue their career.
>>At no point have I ever cared about how much an artist I revere sells. I buy my album, I listen to it, I enjoy it. Thats my input in the financial section of things. Why is it my concern what another man earns?
As for the second part, that cannot be proved to be correct because there are so many examples for AND against. Its impossible to quantify so its a silly comment. To use one random example, Lil' B's debut full album sold about 1000 copies and was expected to sell ten times that minimum. He has one of the biggest followings in rap right now and it won't affect his career. This doesn't PROVE you wrong, though, its just one side of the coin. One album flop means nothing to an artist who will continue to create great music and enjoy it. The only type of artists that flops, whether it be on a major or independant, and doesn't continue in their rap career or attempt to bounce back is an artist that I should care about anyway. That shows a complete lack of passion and drive for their craft.
Sometimes mediocre sales help an artist music wise. That first major album gucci album was loaded with major label forced collabos like usher and keyshia Cole. You think gucci fans wanted to hear that? Lol. His album didn't sell well so his next album none of those type of features were there.
I don't think Gucci Mane's fans are the type of guys and girls who have opinions ANYONE should give two fucks about. Neither you nor I. I honestly wouldn't have thought he has the type of fan who considers himself too much of a purist to listen to a track listening to Keyshia Cole though. But this point isn't really that relevant.
Joe budden is the artist I love today because his major album didn't go platinum.
Joe Budden can suck my hairy swingers for being the dull cunt he is today.
Quality music is great but if the sales suck it won't matter.
THE MOST RIDICULOUS STATEMENT ON THIS FORUM TODAY. You have just stated that if someone releases a great album, but it doesn't do good numbers, then its NOT a great album. Utterly fucking ridiculous. There are so many hip-hop classics over the past 20 years that didn't sell great numbers but because of how good they are they are revered by many. An album is defined by its content, not by its ability to be sold. The music BUSINESS and music itself are two entirely different things, and if that really needs explaining to anyone on this forum then I don't really know whether its worthwhile even continuing the conversation/debate.
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I'm very curious as to what I said is grossly misinformed or incorrect.
That's probably the most absurd thing on this forum. When people say you're not right, but don't explain why.
Don't jump the gun. I have replied.
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I never said anything about the album not being great just because it didn't sell. I was saying that album will be forgotten and lost in the pile.Shit look how many albums spice 2 is in love with that will be forgotten in three months because the sales sucked. Meanwhile Carter IV was mediocre but will be remembered because it moved units.
And just because YOU don't care doesn't mean others don't. Because many do care about sales.
I almost spit my drink out about lil b. An artist with huge followings don't move 1000 units, so just stop that nonsense right now. Lil b was a novelty act and since his album flopped nobody has been talking about him. His novelty has worn off and people are already forgetting about him. If his album had moved big units he would be all over the place. But it flopped and you'll never hear shit from him again.
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wow white people on here say nigga freely behind they computers..i mean come on let it go.shits sad.
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his album success is gonna change how some do business. I prop him for that yell
Yell at yourself nigga! Wtf are you talking about nigga? Niggas have been going independent since the grassroots days. He's faithfully on SuckerFree and on the Internet and music outlets just like everybody else is. I just think you're on his nuts lol.
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Arthur why you so mad son? Rick Ross is a known gimmick and you love him, so why you so salty?
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We're not talking about Gucci, Waka, or Ross are we, we're talking about Mac Miller. Gucci bodied a nigga becuz of this and is in and out every other 6 months. Waka caught a bullet for it, got shot at few times after that and and ended up losin' a homie. And Ross is the new Biggie, he just doesn't freestyle his raps and his crew turnt out to be a little better.
I'm still not convinced. Mac Miller just came in like a hired clown for a child's birthday party, did a few shows and collected some money from a fan base that was fiending for an artist like him.
Don't lie tho, if he got with some RnB dudes it would be New Kids On The Block all over again.
and Cham I'm not interested in your false accusations. You're throwing a temper tantrum becuz I'm talking about some new rapper that u like, grow up cracker. You act just like a big kid. You probably over there right now with shit in your draws becuz u ain't showered in 3 days.
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Lmao @ Ross being the next biggie. Stop it slime. Biggies worst songs are better then Ross best songs. Not to mention biggie was a real street cat and Ross was a fuckin CO playing up a gimmick.
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he said slime lol
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and Cham I'm not interested in your false accusations. You're throwing a temper tantrum becuz I'm talking about some new rapper that u like, grow up cracker. You act just like a big kid. You probably over there right now with shit in your draws becuz u ain't showered in 3 days.
Tight ass nigga. We all see through you, blackie.
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Ok whitey.
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Ok whitey.
It's true, man. You're still falling on that "You're a Mac Miller fan". This album that sold isn't good. He sounds repetitive all the time & uses the same flow to the point his music is boring. Yet you're still tryna use that. You're a failure.
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We're not talking about Gucci, Waka, or Ross are we, we're talking about Mac Miller. Gucci bodied a nigga becuz of this and is in and out every other 6 months. Waka caught a bullet for it, got shot at few times after that and and ended up losin' a homie. And Ross is the new Biggie, he just doesn't freestyle his raps and his crew turnt out to be a little better.
I'm still not convinced. Mac Miller just came in like a hired clown for a child's birthday party, did a few shows and collected some money from a fan base that was fiending for an artist like him.
Don't lie tho, if he got with some RnB dudes it would be New Kids On The Block all over again.
and Cham I'm not interested in your false accusations. You're throwing a temper tantrum becuz I'm talking about some new rapper that u like, grow up cracker. You act just like a big kid. You probably over there right now with shit in your draws becuz u ain't showered in 3 days.
How is Ross the next Biggie, cause they're both fat? Biggie isn't even one of my favorites but what does he even have to do with Ross?
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macs new album sucks. im mad yo.
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We're not talking about Gucci, Waka, or Ross are we, we're talking about Mac Miller. Gucci bodied a nigga becuz of this and is in and out every other 6 months. Waka caught a bullet for it, got shot at few times after that and and ended up losin' a homie. And Ross is the new Biggie, he just doesn't freestyle his raps and his crew turnt out to be a little better.
I'm still not convinced. Mac Miller just came in like a hired clown for a child's birthday party, did a few shows and collected some money from a fan base that was fiending for an artist like him.
Don't lie tho, if he got with some RnB dudes it would be New Kids On The Block all over again.
and Cham I'm not interested in your false accusations. You're throwing a temper tantrum becuz I'm talking about some new rapper that u like, grow up cracker. You act just like a big kid. You probably over there right now with shit in your draws becuz u ain't showered in 3 days.
How is Ross the next Biggie, cause they're both fat? Biggie isn't even one of my favorites but what does he even have to do with Ross?
The man said Gucci has better music than Illmatic. The man shouldn't legally allowed to discuss music.
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Lmao they couldn't pay me enough to hang around a forum actin like this muthafucka all day smh. Shit like that makes a muthafucka lazy and crazy (in that order). Like young, I stopped payin attention to that shit years ago but thanks for the spotlight.
Mac Miller was Carl Bank's best friend on "the fresh prince". They just ain't tell y'all dat.
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Lmao they couldn't pay me enough to hang around a forum actin like this muthafucka all day smh. Shit like that makes a muthafucka lazy and crazy (in that order). Like young, I stopped payin attention to that shit years ago but thanks for the spotlight.
Mac Miller was Carl Bank's best friend on "the fresh prince". They just ain't tell y'all dat.
i already made that joke a few posts back. get soething original nigga
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I never said anything about the album not being great just because it didn't sell. I was saying that album will be forgotten and lost in the pile.
Not by the people who listen to it. Kool G Rap and Masta Ace have never sold, yet they are still brought up as legends by anyone knowledgeable about hip hop. How much did Disposable Arts sell? How much did Live and Let Die sell? Will the average person know their name? No, but within the scope of hip hop they are more important than some one hit wonder.
The real question is why do you care if Joe Budden sells a million records or not? Will someone else not knowing who he is affect your enjoyment of his music?
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I'd prefer if he blew up and made the same music. It doesn't change my enjoyment but as a fan I wish him bigger success. Shit you can't be my friend in real life and not know who crooked I is. I've turned at least twenty people into crooked I fans around me by just playing his music.
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^I honestly got over 50 people to become Joey fans. Go to his shows. They all recognize him as elite. It's pretty ill, can't lie.
I can admit half of them came after the Shady signing lol, but the other half was just off his music prior. 8)