West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on September 27, 2007, 02:11:19 PM
-
www.dubcnn.com
(http://www.dubcnm.com/artistimages/bishop04.jpg)(http://www.dubcnm.com/artistimages/drdre_01.jpg)(http://www.dubcnm.com/images/dj_warrior.jpg)
You read right! DJ Warrior and the Cali Untouchable DJ's are back at it again, bringing us two exclusive Bishop Lamont tracks, one produced by Dr. Dre, the other by Focus! The anticipation is building for Bishop's solo debut on Aftermath "The Reformation", and this is only gonna make it bigger.
The first track is called "No Stoppin' Carson", a snippet of it was on Bishop's MySpace a few months ago. Check it out below:
Bishop Lamont - No Stoppin' Carson (Prod. by Dr. Dre) (http://www.dubcnm.com/audio/2007/september/bishop_lamont-no_stoppin_carson_prod_by_dr_dre-(dubcnn).mp3)
The second track is a more laid back, soulful joint called "American Dreams", which finds Bishop talking about America's politics and racial prejudice, as usual with his humorous twist. Listen below:
Bishop Lamont - American Dreams (Prod. by Focus) (http://www.dubcnm.com/audio/2007/september/bishop_lamont-american_dreams_prod_by_focus-(dubcnn).mp3)
In related news, DJ Warrior, DJ Jam and DJ Rectangle recently did a feature on AllHipHop.com. To read the interview with these West Coast Dj's, click here (http://allhiphop.com/blogs/djsproducers/archive/2007/09/24/18637830.aspx). DJ Warrior has also running his succesful Cali Untouchable Radio on Sirius Sattelite Radio, so make sure to tune in to catch the latest West Coast heat! The show is also syndicated overseas now. Shouts out to Diocese, Aftermath, TakeOff Prod, LNS and everybody supporting!
-
Damn, how come hes leaking these joints, guess they wont make the cut.
American Dream is great, dope subject matter, could be on N*gger Noize. Focus produced it though, from Bishop's motuh himself.
-
props Nima! shit is hella tight. 8)
-
Damn, how come hes leaking these joints, guess they wont make the cut, altough he said American Dream will be on it 100% in that Rebel interview.
American Dream is great, dope subject matter, could be on N*gger Noize. Focus produced it though, from Bishop's motuh himself.
Hmm, that's how DJ Warrior sent them to me.
-
both are fucking bangers! can't wait for cdq
-
Well, I just spoke to DJ Warrior and looks like it was a mistake, "American Dreams" is indeed produced by Focus.
-
Its known that DJ's make shit up. Heres the quote from the interview:
Ah man that's a good question, dawg; there's so many. The last song on the album is a record called "INSPIRED" which is produced by Lord Finesse. It's got my boy Bokie, Mark Ant and my sister-in-law Cy on it. It's really ill, man just going back through my life. It's the closer kind of like what "The Message" was on "Chronic 2001". It's a really innovative and "no holds barred" record that looks into my life.
Another favorite is one called "AFRICA" with my boy Sul Nana produced by Bink. I've never done any record like that one. There's a record produced by Focus called "FEEL ON IT" which is crazy. My cousin Turie is on the hook and it's a crazy club banger that's ill at the same time. Focus did another record for me called "AMERICAN DREAM" which goes deeper into some of the things we were talking about in "Nigger Noize" as far as racism and what the American dream really is. What it touches upon is that instead of living the American dream that we live for, we need to just live our lives.
There's a lot, man and I really don't want to reveal too much. Of course with records you never know if it'll make the final cut. But for sure "INSPIRED" and "AFRICA" will be on there. I don't want to say it's on there and doesn't end up on it, ha-ha. Oh! There's a record called "You Ain't Fresh" and it's produced by King Karnov. Diverse is on the hook and my boy DJ Gemini did the scratches. The song just looks at artists in rap and how they think they're fresh but they're not. Just some dumb shit, man… ha-ha. See Diverse used to rap and he was feeling real bossy one night after one too many beers, ha-ha.
-
This Nicca Focus is Dope... Both tracks are Ill. Bishop's dope of course. (and yes I still use "dope")
-
I'm willing to bet DJ Warrioir knew who produced it all along. :P We all know these fools just say shit is produced by Dre to get people's attnetion.
-
Actually it wasn't Warrior who explicitely told me, it said produced by Dr. Dre in the email September 7th sent out. It's all good though, this is cleared up now!
-
Hell, It sounds like dre...
-
damn both tracks are great 8)
if these 2 got cut, can't wait to see what the album looks like :o but if they end up on the album i'll be satisfied 2
-
I can't see American Dreams being cut.
-
dam, i was just yerning for some new Bishop. Can't believe of everything these 2 tracks leaked. 8) Hope these arn't replaced by 2 crappy joints on the album
-
damn both tracks are great 8)
if these 2 got cut, can't wait to see what the album looks like :o but if they end up on the album i'll be satisfied 2
-
American Dreams is excellent. That's the kind of shit I like to hear from Bishop.
No Stoppin' Carson is okay. Dre needs to step his game up.
-
Damn, both are sick. Focus is everywhere at the moment.
Let us know when cdq is available.
-
american dreams is sick nice beat but no stoppin carson was a little dissapointing dres beat is ok pretty sick but is missing something and bishops flow is a little weak on it but im feelin the track by focus
-
american dreams is sick nice beat but no stoppin carson was a little dissapointing dres beat is ok pretty sick but is missing something and bishops flow is a little weak on it but im feelin the track by focus
-
Nima you should ask DJ Warrior when the if the Pope Mobile is dropping. I suppose these tracks are gonna be on there?
-
both dope tracks
American Dream is awesome, Focus has been dropping some heat lately
No Stoppin Carson doesnt have the same impact cause we've heard it before
-
American Dreams is excellent. That's the kind of shit I like to hear from Bishop.
No Stoppin' Carson is okay. Dre needs to step his game up.
-
BISHOP IS IN THE STUDIO WITH DR. DRE TODAY... ;D
-
american dreams is sick nice beat but no stoppin carson was a little dissapointing dres beat is ok pretty sick but is missing something and bishops flow is a little weak on it but im feelin the track by focus
yeah that american dreams track sounds nice. no stopping carson is not at all bad either, but it has an annoying loop.
-
no stoppin carson is one of the sickest beats done by dre in a while.....i dunno wtf you fools are smokin
american dreams is a dope track, who says westcoast rappers cant get conscious????
-
American Dream is fire 8), No Stopping Carson is aight
-
dope shit. the beat is fuckin off the chain, bishop kill this shit 4 real. 8) 8)
-
How can y'all hate on Dre's beat when Focus' is just as boring.
smh
-
I'm willing to bet DJ Warrioir knew who produced it all along. :P We all know these fools just say shit is produced by Dre to get people's attnetion.
I downloaded the songs off of September 7th's page & he posted a bulletin re-correcting his mistake for not crediting Focus for the track, he says he produces music also & would never intensionally miscredit somebody's work for extra promotion off of Dr. Dre's name...
-
Woah these songs are hot!!
No stoppin carson - been waiting for the full version for ages, bishops dope and the beats nice, decent tune
American Dreams - God Damnnnnnnn!! This tune is sick as fuck!! Bishop completely murders this beat, i love the hook,
focus is dope as usual
-
Nothing mind blowing, but both songs are more than decent :)
-
Both tracks are fire.8)
Bishop doin it big!
-
Both tracks are off the chain. 8)
No stoppin' Bishop!
-
No stoppin is pretty average; Beat is boring and the subject matter is unoriginal. American Dreams is fire though!
-
Nice! 2 dope new tracks 2 bump! Been waitin 4 full no stoppin carson 4 a while now!
-
No Stopping Carson is a good beat until you discover it's just actually a snippet of a beat looped (again). The other track is much better both lyrically and beatwise, Focus is showing Dre up.
-
BISHOP IS IN THE STUDIO WITH DR. DRE TODAY... ;D
I saw you say the same thing about Dre and Bishop working on a single in this youtube vid: http://youtube.com/watch?v=jL03umat03s
Can you be more specific ? Like a single for who ? Detox or Reformation...
-
Both tracks are fucking dope. Canīt wait on "The Reformation". I got the feeling itīs gonna be really big
-
damn!!!! this A.D. dope as fuck.. i dont like this dre beat:S,
-
Both kinda average.
-
Both tracks are fucking dope. Canīt wait on "The Reformation". I got the feeling itīs gonna be really big
-
damn, why all the hate on dre lately, both tracks is hot but focus fell off hard
-
There's a NO DJ version of "American Dreams" on Bishop's myspace. Somebody rip it.
-
BISHOP IS IN THE STUDIO WITH DR. DRE TODAY... ;D
I saw you say the same thing about Dre and Bishop working on a single in this youtube vid: http://youtube.com/watch?v=jL03umat03s
Can you be more specific ? Like a single for who ? Detox or Reformation...
From Reformation I guess .. Dre often works on the single when the album is near completed .. and I guess Bishop is closer to being finished than Detox
-
damn, why all the hate on dre lately, both tracks is hot but focus fell off hard
I was wondering the same thing... 'cause when the snippet came out everyone here was talking about how "dope" it was. I guess because the snippet has been out for a while and AD is brand new?
-
Americian Dreams No DJ
http://www.mediafire.com/?91f9q1tw1rf
-
Americian Dreams No DJ
http://www.mediafire.com/?91f9q1tw1rf
Props man. Dope song
-
This is my first time hearing Bishop... I gotta say I'm not feeling him. Kinda generic, imo.
Props, though.
-
American Dream is dope!
-
o shit!!! this "american dream" track i great. can't wait for the album.
but i have a question. i found something like this on the internet
Recorded Producers
Bishop Lamont has aleady recorded with the following...
* Kon Artis
* Focus
* Scott Storch
* Dr. Dre
* Jake One
[edit] Expected Producers
* DJ Quik
* DJ Premier
* Battlecat
* Pete Rock
* Kanye West
* Just Blaze
* Swizz Beatz
* Neo Da Matrix
* Tre Hardson
* Damizza
* Madlib
* DJ Clark Kent
* The Neptunes
* Lord Finesse
* Nottz
* Warren G
* Hi-Tek
* The RZA
* Jonathan Rotem
* Eminem
how is he going to put all of them producers on one cd?:) if he wants to do that he'll be recording double album.
-
damn, why all the hate on dre lately, both tracks is hot but focus fell off hard
I was wondering the same thing... 'cause when the snippet came out everyone here was talking about how "dope" it was. I guess because the snippet has been out for a while and AD is brand new?
No Stopping Carson isn't a bad song, my problem with it is Dre. The snippet that leaked was great but It's disappointing that if you've heard the snippet you've heard the completed beat basically because the full track is just another loop.
Hopefully what's happening here is that Dre is creating these snippets of beats and the ones he likes the best he's building on (keeping them for Detox and The Reformation) and the others he's just looping and selling to other artists. Nearly all these recent Dre tracks sound incomplete, they're like the foundations of what could have been a great beat. The beats are like skeletons, they need fleshed out and brought to life.
-
to be honest, dre is finished for me. he isn't doing anything that i can say is great. it's better for him to give all the production on detox to hi-tek, khalil and others. this beat for bishop is not wack but how many times is he going to do tracks the same way? looping the piano does not make a beat great.
you can't say that something is good, becouse it's dre.
-
Americian Dreams No DJ
http://www.mediafire.com/?91f9q1tw1rf
Thanks.
-
Even if "No Stoppin' Carson" isn't as good as "Amercian Dreams" both tracks are dope and I can't wait for "The Reformation" to drop. Shit's gon' be great!
-
there ain't no stopping stopping stopping 8)
-
you can't say that something is good, becouse it's dre.
That statement is in conflict with a lot of people's opinions on dubcc...
-
Two dope tracks!
Can anyone hook up "No Stoppin'" with no DJ?
Peace 8)
-
you can't say that something is good, becouse it's dre.
That statement is in conflict with a lot of people's opinions on dubcc...
thanks for the info, gonna remember :)
of course i'm still waitin' for the reformation. can't wait to hear the full version of that shit. maybe after the release he'll be recording mixtapes, not to get rid of the tracks he did with the other producers.
-
damn, why all the hate on dre lately, both tracks is hot but focus fell off hard
I was wondering the same thing... 'cause when the snippet came out everyone here was talking about how "dope" it was. I guess because the snippet has been out for a while and AD is brand new?
No Stopping Carson isn't a bad song, my problem with it is Dre. The snippet that leaked was great but It's disappointing that if you've heard the snippet you've heard the completed beat basically because the full track is just another loop.
Hopefully what's happening here is that Dre is creating these snippets of beats and the ones he likes the best he's building on (keeping them for Detox and The Reformation) and the others he's just looping and selling to other artists. Nearly all these recent Dre tracks sound incomplete, they're like the foundations of what could have been a great beat. The beats are like skeletons, they need fleshed out and brought to life.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't "American Dream" pretty much a loop as well? Come to think of it, isn't 90% of Hip Hop beats a loop with a slight change up every 8 bars? Look at some of Dre's tracks on "2001". Still DRE for example, was pretty much a loop with small additions or change up every such and such time. Yes, "2001" had more complex things going on in the music in comparison to what he gives other artists but that's because it's HIS album.
What gets me is that it seems every single beat that Dre releases is supposed to be some amazing "Chronic" style shit and if it's just "dope" o "good" people start saying he fell off. I could almost bet that if Dre produced "American Dream" and Focus produced "Carson" that most people would still say the same thing about Dre. People go for the underdog because it's diferrent. That's exactly why Dre will never fully satasfy the fans when "DETOX" drops. The expectations of fans today can and will NEVER be reaced.... no matter how great it may be.
-
i dunno i dont think some of dre's recent stuff has been sounding like the dre we know. for me i like outta control remix and imagine out of all his recent produtions, dope beats that still have that dre bounce and connect on lots of levels. more stuff like that please....
-
I listened to "get u some" of busta's album at the studio I work at. All I can say is wow.
*Nobody mixes better than Dre touch.
*No album sounds bigger and warmer than dre touch.
*No album bangs harder than dre's touch.
-
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't "American Dream" pretty much a loop as well? Come to think of it, isn't 90% of Hip Hop beats a loop with a slight change up every 8 bars? Look at some of Dre's tracks on "2001". Still DRE for example, was pretty much a loop with small additions or change up every such and such time. Yes, "2001" had more complex things going on in the music in comparison to what he gives other artists but that's because it's HIS album.
What gets me is that it seems every single beat that Dre releases is supposed to be some amazing "Chronic" style shit and if it's just "dope" o "good" people start saying he fell off. I could almost bet that if Dre produced "American Dream" and Focus produced "Carson" that most people would still say the same thing about Dre. People go for the underdog because it's diferrent. That's exactly why Dre will never fully satasfy the fans when "DETOX" drops. The expectations of fans today can and will NEVER be reaced.... no matter how great it may be.
yeah i guess you have a point there. i can't speak for the others, but for me in general, a loop in a song doesn't have to make it a bad song. i mean, with NO stopping carson the voice in the backround actually did ruin it for me.
but deep cover has loops as well, and i can imagine that some ppl think that the song becomes very repititive after a while, but somehow i don't find the loops on deep cover annoying ( so i guess it's just a matter of taste).
i do like american dreams a bit more than no stopping carson, not because of the beat ( can become very annoying after a while imo), but bishop's flow is a lot better than his flow on most tracks ( i don't know why; but he often raps so slow/laid back, and somehow it doesn't work out for him. i mean, he's not snoop dogg or 50 cent. he should flow like he did on the track from the true crime soundtrack. that's bishop at his best).
-
Americian Dreams No DJ
http://www.mediafire.com/?91f9q1tw1rf
Thanks.
+1 Bones01
-
damn, why all the hate on dre lately, both tracks is hot but focus fell off hard
I was wondering the same thing... 'cause when the snippet came out everyone here was talking about how "dope" it was. I guess because the snippet has been out for a while and AD is brand new?
No Stopping Carson isn't a bad song, my problem with it is Dre. The snippet that leaked was great but It's disappointing that if you've heard the snippet you've heard the completed beat basically because the full track is just another loop.
Hopefully what's happening here is that Dre is creating these snippets of beats and the ones he likes the best he's building on (keeping them for Detox and The Reformation) and the others he's just looping and selling to other artists. Nearly all these recent Dre tracks sound incomplete, they're like the foundations of what could have been a great beat. The beats are like skeletons, they need fleshed out and brought to life.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't "American Dream" pretty much a loop as well? Come to think of it, isn't 90% of Hip Hop beats a loop with a slight change up every 8 bars? Look at some of Dre's tracks on "2001". Still DRE for example, was pretty much a loop with small additions or change up every such and such time. Yes, "2001" had more complex things going on in the music in comparison to what he gives other artists but that's because it's HIS album.
What gets me is that it seems every single beat that Dre releases is supposed to be some amazing "Chronic" style shit and if it's just "dope" o "good" people start saying he fell off. I could almost bet that if Dre produced "American Dream" and Focus produced "Carson" that most people would still say the same thing about Dre. People go for the underdog because it's diferrent. That's exactly why Dre will never fully satasfy the fans when "DETOX" drops. The expectations of fans today can and will NEVER be reaced.... no matter how great it may be.
thing is Dre releases a few beats a year and takes FOREVER to release his projects ... so of course I think we have the right to bitch when his beats are average from his standards .. I ain't gonna wait 9 fucking years just to have a "very good" album ... Dre can't expect his fans to be some "yes men" if Detox isn't as much groundbreaking as the Chronic and 2001 .... it's actually Dre so perfectionnism and Interscope pushbacks policy for EVERY FUCKIN RELEASE which increase people expectations ... at the end of the day , if he thinks 9 years were needed to make another groundbreaking album , I'm good with it but it better not have average music on it ... same with Bishop, I ain't waiting his album for 3 years to hear some average No Stoppin Carson type of beat ... that's why I was dissapointed by the Dre work on Busta album ... 3 years for good but not amazing stuff (outside Get you some) .....
-
There's a NO DJ version of "No Stoppin Carson" on Bishop's myspace, someone rip it.
http://www.myspace.com/bishoplamont
-
^^No DJ http://www.zshare.net/audio/41647199c66095/
-
Mad props Nima, you always got the exclusives man!
I'm sorry but this shit does absolutely nothing for me. The vast majority of Dre's beats are so fucking redundant and so fucking boring these days I honestly don't understand how anyone gets hyped about them.
And Bishop Lamont brings nothing to the table. He's average as hell.
-
^^No DJ http://www.zshare.net/audio/41647199c66095/
somebody re-up it please!
-
i wish people were as critical bout dre's beats as they are about quiks .. coz if u think dre fell off with his recent stuff then wat the hell happened to quik .. his recent shit has been juss as bad if not worse .. that fixxers shit is hot garbage
-
I don't understand what Dre's doing with these beats. In the past, he'd save that "AAAAHHHH" in the background for just the chorus or something and switch it up a little bit, layer stuff in and out, almost like a rock song. Like the "MURDAAHHHH" in the chorus of Murder Was The Case. I'm just so surprised that as complicated as his stuff used to be that he's happy now with what's no more than a freestyle beat. Hell, when he made "The Shiznit" with Snoop, that was basically a freestyle beat and it's much more sophisticated than this beat.
Dre used to do cool shit like drop the bass out in a track and make him or Snoop or whoever rap over just drums for a few bars or something just to amplify the clarity of their voice a little bit.... and I don't know why he doesn't scratch anymore.
But whatever, I guess he knows one hell of alot more about what he's doing than we do. This sounds like 5 seconds of a Dre beat that somebody jacked and made into a song on Cakewalk or something.