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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Jome on September 01, 2003, 10:58:47 PM
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XXL asked him about Pac and people saying he sounded similar to Pac...
" I wasn't really a big fan. I was always a big fan of me...I don't knock what the nigga said, I just don't want to hear what the nigga had to say...I'm not the next Pac. Never was. I'm the first X...I'm not running around talking about gangbanging. That shit is ignorant to me, man...What the fuck you gonna die over a color for? The color was here before you was born nigga and that color gonna be here after you're dead. Color nothing. The black color. That's the color I'm dying for. I got more sense than that."
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Where the Pac groupies @.. ?
I agree with X.. 8)
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maybe i didnt read it right, but how did he diss him? all he said was that he didnt listen to him. i dont like Pac, never did, but there's a big difference in saying FUCK 2PAC and sayin you didnt listen to him .. that gangbanging shit he is talkin about sounds like it was just in general, not @ Pac
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True... though 'Pac never claimed a color. He claimed a coast though, so whatever. I like both rappers, DMX is the only one I think more personal than 'Pac.
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the only thing ignorant, mr. simons, is that 2pac didn't rap about dying for set. LMAO that's got to be one of the most ignorant things i've heard in a while. anyone who knows about 2pac knows the line "i don't give a fuck if you're blood or cuzz". fuck what dmx said, 2pac died for the struggle, not some set, he was never a gangbanger, the things he rapped about was woman (both sensitively and deragatively), politics, the streets, and EMOTION.
damn, the only thing that dmx said that made sense was that he didn't listen to 2pac.....lol it's OBVIOUS earl.
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True... though 'Pac never claimed a color. He claimed a coast though, so whatever. I like both rappers, DMX is the only one I think more personal than 'Pac.
he didn't die for the westcoast, he loved new york ALOT too. he repped the west that hard becuase of the screwed up industry politics going on at that time.....the west coast was putting out superior material at the time and the east was shunning it, if pac was alive today he'd be pulling an ice cube and working with east coast artist
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on a brighter note, i guess X is still on that crack
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'Pac never claimed a color.
True, he never claimed anything explicitly, but if you sign to Death Row, roll with Suge Knight in a very high-profile manner and reference M.O.B on several tracks on your album, you're giving off a certain image.
What X said still misses the point though - he's basing his comment on Pac's attitude for the year (if that) he spent rolling with Suge, conveniently ignoring works like 2Pacalypse Now, Strictly 4 My NIGGAZ and Me Against The World.
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XXL asked him about Pac and people saying he sounded similar to Pac...
" I wasn't really a big fan. I was always a big fan of me...I don't knock what the nigga said, I just don't want to hear what the nigga had to say...I'm not the next Pac. Never was. I'm the first X...I'm not running around talking about gangbanging. That shit is ignorant to me, man...What the fuck you gonna die over a color for? The color was here before you was born nigga and that color gonna be here after you're dead. Color nothing. The black color. That's the color I'm dying for. I got more sense than that."
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Where the Pac groupies @.. ?
I agree with X.. 8)
i don't really like pac either but...what X said is pretty ignorant...but who cares...i like X more than pac and one little question wont fuk that up 8)
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Noticed how DMX is the only rapper that said he didn't like 'Pac? :P
Really, everyone's been on 'Pac's dick, I think X tells people what he really thinks.
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DMX is better than Pac
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'Pac never claimed a color.
True, he never claimed anything explicitly, but if you sign to Death Row, roll with Suge Knight in a very high-profile manner and reference M.O.B on several tracks on your album, you're giving off a certain image.
What X said still misses the point though - he's basing his comment on Pac's attitude for the year (if that) he spent rolling with Suge, conveniently ignoring works like 2Pacalypse Now, Strictly 4 My NIGGAZ and Me Against The World.
True on both statements
I just want to add, over at streetgangs.com in there forums u can see real gang bangers post, they were around when Pac was killed. While fan boys for years keep claiming it was something to do with Rap, it wasnt. Suge & those crooked cops were involved in Biggies, but that was more in revenge for what Puffy's home boy did in 1995 (killing one of Suges best child hood friends).
Basically Tupac was never a gangsta until 1996. He never really mentioned on albums (mainly coz it was towards the end of his life that he started red raggin) but yes, he began being influenced by Suge, hangin with Mob Piru's & towards the end he was representing that set hard (only coz he was Suges best friend).
One guy who was in the same set as Baby Lane aka Orlando Anderson talked to Orlando & knows what happened. Its pretty much Baby Lane was the type that didnt give a fuck. Anyway those crips rushed one of the Mob Piru's a few weeks before & stole his chain (as you all know his name is Tray).
Pac tried to be a hero & show he was down for Suges set so as soon as Tray told him Lane was there, Pac ran up & all those guys beat down on Lane. Lane wasnt gonna let Pac rush him like he did in vegas & get away with it. Orlando was the guy who rode on Pac (Pac wasnt the only victim of Baby Lanes).
This followed in Suges Mob Piru's & Crooked Cops shooting up crips from the same set as Lane in the weeks that followed Pac's death. They had all the weapons while they made sure they dried out Lane's hood out of weapons
So in short, Pac did lose his life over a colour, well, a colour & a death row chain, a chain of a company who owed him heaps of money & was planning to leave. X is right about that
But the fact is, Pac was a great song writer, he was more than a gangsta rapper, he wrote about topics & issues that were real. It was only like from Thug Life onwards he seemed to try & act harder & harder, as in talking about being a Ridah
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X is talkin BS lol... he should be proud that ppl compare him wit Pac.
also Pac never claimed red... "no matter if you blood or cuz, I just got love for thugs" + "I see bloods and crips runnin up the hill, thinkin of a better wayyy"
It doesnt suprise me that X is claimin he didnt knock what Pac said, since it's ridicolous to say such things if you listen to Pac...
Also, it's stupid to "die for the black color", lmao, what a moron, the black color was there fore he was born and will be there after he dies, just to argument in his own bright words.
Besides Pac only did GangstaStyle on AEOM, but the fact X is ignorin Pacs better LP's was already mentioned.
Where the X groupies @?
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Noticed how DMX is the only rapper that said he didn't like 'Pac? :P
Really, everyone's been on 'Pac's dick, I think X tells people what he really thinks.
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^^ain't no X groupies on here.. unlike the Pac fans the X fans don't act like he's god and untouchable
all he said is he ain't feelin gangbangin shit and the only color he's representing is the one of his whole race and not gangs who be killing each other.. it's his oppinion
and he's staying honest, not ridin dick just cuz somebody's dead.. he ain't gonna just start dissing cuz that's dissrespectfull considering Pac can't defend himself but when he's asked about it he's staying honest and that's the way everybody should do it
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Man...DMX didn't diss Pac, what type of title for a thread is this?
Also...not all Pac fans are Pac groupies. There are still some cats out there (like me) that actually love his music (& movies, etc) so that does not mean we're groupies...period.
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Noticed how DMX is the only rapper that said he didn't like 'Pac? :P
Really, everyone's been on 'Pac's dick, I think X tells people what he really thinks.
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also Pac never claimed red... "no matter if you blood or cuz, I just got love for thugs" + "I see bloods and crips runnin up the hill, thinkin of a better wayyy"
Yes on his albums he didnt, but towards the end of his life, he was hangin with Mob Piru's coz of Suge & was basically a member, well he tried to be, which is why he tried to be down for one of Suge's homies by goin at Baby Lane, unfortunately Baby Lane wasnt one to fuck with. Coz of that we lost a great person at heart & an extremely talented entertainer. RIP
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2pacs dead and still on a level.....................
dmx might be sick, but his still wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy below dat level, nuff said, 2pac G.O.A.T...............now dmx???..........lol i like the cats muzik but pleeez,
and yeah 2pac spit real shit, cats can deny but he only spoke of truth, niggaz know
peace
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Man...DMX didn't diss Pac, what type of title for a thread is this?
Also...not all Pac fans are Pac groupies. There are still some cats out there (like me) that actually love his music (& movies, etc) so that does not mean we're groupies...period.
That's why I put (disses).. it's kind of a diss, but not directly as a person.
DMX speaks his mind, and he's right.. except that Pac wasn't a blood or crip.
But he could might as well have been one with the lifestyle he lived..
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2pac died for the struggle.
I can't really coment on this, but I can surely say pac was light years superior to X as a rapper....so Earl should just shut the hell up ::).
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also Pac never claimed red... "no matter if you blood or cuz, I just got love for thugs" + "I see bloods and crips runnin up the hill, thinkin of a better wayyy"
Yes on his albums he didnt, but towards the end of his life, he was hangin with Mob Piru's coz of Suge & was basically a member, well he tried to be, which is why he tried to be down for one of Suge's homies by goin at Baby Lane, unfortunately Baby Lane wasnt one to fuck with. Coz of that we lost a great person at heart & an extremely talented entertainer. RIP
i thought you hated pac engies? change of heart ?
also wasn't pac also riding with crips too such as daz and shit, cuz i remember watching rap city like in 98' or so and they were talking about pac and kurupt was on saying something about how him pac and daz (tray deee? i think) were tight pac gave him the name young gotti ect.
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also Pac never claimed red... "no matter if you blood or cuz, I just got love for thugs" + "I see bloods and crips runnin up the hill, thinkin of a better wayyy"
Yes on his albums he didnt, but towards the end of his life, he was hangin with Mob Piru's coz of Suge & was basically a member, well he tried to be, which is why he tried to be down for one of Suge's homies by goin at Baby Lane, unfortunately Baby Lane wasnt one to fuck with. Coz of that we lost a great person at heart & an extremely talented entertainer. RIP
i thought you hated pac engies? change of heart ?
also wasn't pac also riding with crips too such as daz and shit, cuz i remember watching rap city like in 98' or so and they were talking about pac and kurupt was on saying something about how him pac and daz (tray deee? i think) were tight pac gave him the name young gotti ect.
When did i EVER say i hated PAC? I may have said he isnt the GOAT people claim he is, but he was one of the best. & as far as a person, i never thought bad of him. I now however feel that Pac was a great intelligent young man, who as he got further in the rap game, created an image of a guy named 2Pac who was a thug & later gang related, thru both music, hangin with MOB's like Suge & movie roles
& I'm guessing this is Jake Dogg, the guy who claimed to own Doggystyle with the next episode, & despite how user friendly technology is today, still claims he cant rip it. The guy who told me a different story on how he got the cd from the one he claimed to years later
Yeah Pac & Daz were fairly tight, but go ask the gangbangers who Pac spent his last days with. I'm talking about guys who are from the streets, i dont know myself i live in australia, you live in bakersfield go ask the people like BGCasper at Streetgangs.com who were in the southside crip set that Orlando Anderson claimed, a guy who knew what happened to Pac from day 1, a guy who say g's from his set get shot up in the days following Pac's shooting by crooked cops that worked for Suge.
& if Pac wasnt trying to be down with the MOB Piru's why when he ran up on Orlando Anderson did he say "You southside nigga?" & punch him before Lane even had a chance to acknowledge what pac had asked. He was trying to show he was down to ride for the Mob Piru's, for Tray who got his chain stolen by Southside crips.
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also Pac never claimed red... "no matter if you blood or cuz, I just got love for thugs" + "I see bloods and crips runnin up the hill, thinkin of a better wayyy"
Yes on his albums he didnt, but towards the end of his life, he was hangin with Mob Piru's coz of Suge & was basically a member, well he tried to be, which is why he tried to be down for one of Suge's homies by goin at Baby Lane, unfortunately Baby Lane wasnt one to fuck with. Coz of that we lost a great person at heart & an extremely talented entertainer. RIP
i thought you hated pac engies? change of heart ?
also wasn't pac also riding with crips too such as daz and shit, cuz i remember watching rap city like in 98' or so and they were talking about pac and kurupt was on saying something about how him pac and daz (tray deee? i think) were tight pac gave him the name young gotti ect.
When did i EVER say i hated PAC? I may have said he isnt the GOAT people claim he is, but he was one of the best. & as far as a person, i never thought bad of him. I now however feel that Pac was a great intelligent young man, who as he got further in the rap game, created an image of a guy named 2Pac who was a thug & later gang related, thru both music, hangin with MOB's like Suge & movie roles
& I'm guessing this is Jake Dogg, the guy who claimed to own Doggystyle with the next episode, & despite how user friendly technology is today, still claims he cant rip it. The guy who told me a different story on how he got the cd from the one he claimed to years later
i dunno man when i use to talk to you on AIM you bashed him good....suprised me how well you talked of him now.
and yes i have that cd...no i couldn't rip it, i was computer ignorant 3 years ago, i could now but where's the fun in that ;)
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also Pac never claimed red... "no matter if you blood or cuz, I just got love for thugs" + "I see bloods and crips runnin up the hill, thinkin of a better wayyy"
Yes on his albums he didnt, but towards the end of his life, he was hangin with Mob Piru's coz of Suge & was basically a member, well he tried to be, which is why he tried to be down for one of Suge's homies by goin at Baby Lane, unfortunately Baby Lane wasnt one to fuck with. Coz of that we lost a great person at heart & an extremely talented entertainer. RIP
i thought you hated pac engies? change of heart ?
also wasn't pac also riding with crips too such as daz and shit, cuz i remember watching rap city like in 98' or so and they were talking about pac and kurupt was on saying something about how him pac and daz (tray deee? i think) were tight pac gave him the name young gotti ect.
When did i EVER say i hated PAC? I may have said he isnt the GOAT people claim he is, but he was one of the best. & as far as a person, i never thought bad of him. I now however feel that Pac was a great intelligent young man, who as he got further in the rap game, created an image of a guy named 2Pac who was a thug & later gang related, thru both music, hangin with MOB's like Suge & movie roles
& I'm guessing this is Jake Dogg, the guy who claimed to own Doggystyle with the next episode, & despite how user friendly technology is today, still claims he cant rip it. The guy who told me a different story on how he got the cd from the one he claimed to years later
i dunno man when i use to talk to you on AIM you bashed him good....suprised me how well you talked of him now.
and yes i have that cd...no i couldn't rip it, i was computer ignorant 3 years ago, i could now but where's the fun in that ;)
Why, when you still lie now, would anyone should believe you! I never said those things about Pac. Why lie your 18 grow up & do something better with ure life rather than sit on the internet & lie. I mean dont you have a life or anything, or arent you part of Los Boricuas
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squash the beef
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Noticed how DMX is the only rapper that said he didn't like 'Pac? :P
Really, everyone's been on 'Pac's dick, I think X tells people what he really thinks.
exactly!
DMX has more lyrical skill IMO
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squash the beef
Hey man i dont give a fuck about Jacob, i didnt even know he posted here anymore after he called Overseer a Moby Lookalike like a year back. He decided to run his mouth not me i dont care man i check this board when i got nothing to, which may be 1-3 times a day, but thats got rarer over the past year or so
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2Pac is the closest thing to the GOAT but there are some good arguments out there, HOWEVER there is no comparison between DMX and Pac, Pac was realer with his topics and came across more emotional, why is pac more popular???? DMX is cool too, i have always listened to him but he still needs to catch up with Pac in many ways
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2Pac is the closest thing to the GOAT but there are some good arguments out there, HOWEVER there is no comparison between DMX and Pac, Pac was realer with his topics and came across more emotional, why is pac more popular???? DMX is cool too, i have always listened to him but he still needs to catch up with Pac in many ways
I agree with that
In fact i think DMX has been overrated in recent days. I mean his songs have meaning & stuff, thats cool, but he has a bad rap flow & voice, heck he dont even sound like he rappin, he sounds like he is yelling his lyrics